Eating all day

[needmorepink]

If anyone used to eat all day....what gender children did you have?

[odd]

Boy. ..with grazing all day

[Linzshine32]

I used to snack/graze all day and had a boy too. Now i'm eating about 2x a day with some tea/crystal lite in between meals.

[Junie]

I used to snack/graze whenever I was hungry (healthy and unhealthy foods) and I have 2 boys :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Boy, boy, boy!

[missxo143]

I ate whenever I was even slighty hungry or just craving food lol I have 3 boys. And I have always ate breakfast too

[needmorepink]

Interesting....how is it that my friend & SIL ALWAYS had food in their mouth and had girls!? They eat all day! I guess I am doomed.. :(

[maidentomother]

Maybe they eat junk food? Or exercise a ton? Or their DH have very low sperm count? Or they have hostile CM? Many possible reasons...

[needmorepink]

Yes, alot of junk food like cake, cookies, cheeze nips, ice cream, popcorn. But they also ate alot of good/real food for their main meals. One of their husbands works outside in the heat..so maybe that is why one of them had a girl.

[princessCharlotte]

me and i got two boys.
i guess your frd and sil are "junk foods" that sway girl?
i have a frd who snack all day (ice cream, yogurt, chocolate etc) and is expecting a girl.

[eleena2014]

I was told junk food doesn't sway boy??

[atomic sagebrush]

Interesting....how is it that my friend & SIL ALWAYS had food in their mouth and had girls!? They eat all day! I guess I am doomed.. :(

Because it is not about what you eat or how you eat it per se, but it's about your overall condition. Some people are in lower condition just by random chance and can "shake off" sway tactics.

All the sway tactics are is a way to send a message to your body that times are hard and/or a girl or boy has a better chance of surviving to adulthood to pass down genes. The sway tactics DON'T actually sway. IT's what your body decides to do after receiving those signals.

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, alot of junk food like cake, cookies, cheeze nips, ice cream, popcorn. But they also ate alot of good/real food for their main meals. One of their husbands works outside in the heat..so maybe that is why one of them had a girl.

ANYBODY can get boys or girls eating all kinds of different foods, all kinds of different ways. We're just trying to optimize our odds .

[atomic sagebrush]

I was told junk food doesn't sway boy??

It doesn't. a diet of mostly processed foods would tend to sway pink.

[eleena2014]

What would be classed as processed foods?

[sweetdream]

Everything in a package that you can buy. In stead of making it from scratch.

[eleena2014]

This is what I was eating when I conceived boys!?

[sweetdream]

Then you need to not eat whole day if you sway girl.
Its not jus one thing that sways.
And you never know if they were eating anything else.
I know ppl who seem to eat the whole day when your pressent and not eat when there alone and vice versa.
And the can also just beat the ods

[atomic sagebrush]

ANYBODY can get boys or girls eating all kinds of different foods, all kinds of different ways. We're just trying to optimize our odds .


Quoting myself to answer Eleena's question .

Foods do not, in and of themselves, sway. There are no magic foods and you can get a boy eating rice cakes and cranberries and a girl eating Doritos and hamburger meat. It is your overall diet as a whole, the nutrient content, the amounts you eat and when and how much, in addition to a zillion other things that we can't even begin to guess at, that sway gender, all of it mixed in with a healthy dollop of luck on top.

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[needmorepink]

I lived at my parents and my SIL lived there with my brother so I know she used to eat all day. I so think atomic however you are onto something about your body thinking it is hard times that tends to sway pink... but as you said there is alot we don't know they may turn it around even though our bodies are thinking it is in hard times. Who knows maybe it is really just the luck of the draw? Part of me thinks that there has to be more than just the luck of winning the race. You sound to be onto something more so than ingender though. I did ingender sway and got boy #3. Didn't sway and ended up with first girl. Only difference was the temperature outside and having intercourse everyday from start of AF till positive test.

[MyByC]

Temperature outside?
When exactlly?

[needmorepink]

We moved from the North to the south where the weather is warm all year round. My hubby didn't use the ac when driving to and from work which is an hour. I was eating more ice cream and yogurts. Other than that nothing else was different. I may have been eating a little bit less than usual? Not sure if it was that I was eating less or seemed that way because sometimes I would just eat the same thing all day. Like Sometimes just pigged out on ice cream all day; Nothing else. Now I developed a love for food and eat way to much. I always feel hungry though. Not sure if it is the bf or stress. I can't seem to stay away from food! I am doomed if I don't change my bad habits. Hopefully I can before I ever end up pregnant again.

[Navywife620]

I am definitely a grazer! Especially with DS1 and DS2! DS3 I was on the LE diet but I honestly don't think I was on it long enough before I got pregnant with him

[atomic sagebrush]

It can't be the luck of the draw because we have the science that shows that it can't be. Men make 50-50 X and Y sperm and this cannot be changed http://genderdreaming.com/forum/sperm-qualities/552-guess-what-men-make-50-50-x-y-sperm.html but those sperm go onto make 140-160 boys for every 100 girls conceived and this number falls to 105-106 boys for every 100 girls born. There is no way for something that is 50-50 to make that many more boys than girls, unless there is something happening after ejaculation that is altering the number of boys/girls conceived. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/swaying-studies-scientific-research/32383-defense-swaying-part-1-a.html

[atomic sagebrush]

Temperature outside?
When exactlly?

Hot temps may sway pink for DH a bit by lowering his sperm count. Some animal data indicates cold temps for female mammals may also sway pink, but we don't know if that translates to humans or not.

[2boysJustOneGirl]

I have two DS and I am a huge grazer! I ate mostly a Paleo diet, very healthy, no processed food at all.


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[needmorepink]

2boys did you sway for your one girl?

[needmorepink]

That is interesting atomic and makes you wonder how that can happen when men have 50/50. Don't they also say that some men can make 60/40 though too? When I was researching IVF/PGD clinics this one clinic in NY gave men a sperm ratio test beforehand and most of them did have 50/50, but some also did have 60/40. Maybe this plays a little factor in those 106 boys born to every 100 girls? I just don't get how someone can get the opposite gender not only once but twice and more after so many of one beforehand without swaying. Like the Duggars. How did they get all those girls after having so many boys in a row when they weren't swaying? I really do believe that there may be something to swaying...It's just situations like that, that make me how is it possible for someone like the Duggars to get equal numbers of boys and girls by doing nothing different. This part makes me think it has to be down to chance...swaying just helps increase those odds of a certain gender a little..I am so confussed what to think..I want to sway it is just all confusing. Especially after Ig's. Your makes more sense and I think your more onto something. But why is it that there are still boys born to the poor communities in Africa where you see sick starving children? Does swaying not work after doing it to long?

[2boysJustOneGirl]

2boys did you sway for your one girl?

No. Not yet;)


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[MyByC]

Well, let me tell you that everyone I know and has girls they concieved in Oct - Nov ....boys in apr-may-june....weird....
I did in May...

[needmorepink]

mybyc interesting you say that. My girl was concieved around halloween day and early Nov. I also had a girl in highschool (I usually don't mention.), who is with a loving adoptive family within our family, who also was concieved the same time around Halloween day and early November. Maybe it is everyone filling up on empty calories from the Halloween candy thats producing the girls? lol My boys were concieved in Dec, Feb/march?, and July. My SIL was due the same time as my ds3 and she had a girl and I would of had a boy. Weird though that it does seem that the Oct/Nov months hold true for me for a girl.

[3BoysBlessed]

Yes I was a grazer! Always was. I have three boys (and an angel boy). I have finally gotten used to the LE diet methods. The "intermittent fasting" has helped my body to shed fat (weight) as well. I was reading about it on mercola.com. the thing is, I still eat healthy foods and less processed foods. My attempt is hopefully in about two weeks...of course dh will be out of town when I O. But I was thinking we should attempt just before he leaves which is 5 days before O if that is when I end up actually oing. I should write a separate post on that because I need to get some method info...Zyrtec or no, etc...


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[Sarah4girl]

Michelle Dugger had all her boys first- she was young and fertile. Girls next- older and not as fertile? I've seen the episodes where she is exercising on a x trainer. Perhaps an unintentional swayer? ;)


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[atomic sagebrush]

That is interesting atomic and makes you wonder how that can happen when men have 50/50. Don't they also say that some men can make 60/40 though too? When I was researching IVF/PGD clinics this one clinic in NY gave men a sperm ratio test beforehand and most of them did have 50/50, but some also did have 60/40. Maybe this plays a little factor in those 106 boys born to every 100 girls? I just don't get how someone can get the opposite gender not only once but twice and more after so many of one beforehand without swaying. Like the Duggars. How did they get all those girls after having so many boys in a row when they weren't swaying? I really do believe that there may be something to swaying...It's just situations like that, that make me how is it possible for someone like the Duggars to get equal numbers of boys and girls by doing nothing different. This part makes me think it has to be down to chance...swaying just helps increase those odds of a certain gender a little..I am so confussed what to think..I want to sway it is just all confusing. Especially after Ig's. Your makes more sense and I think your more onto something. But why is it that there are still boys born to the poor communities in Africa where you see sick starving children? Does swaying not work after doing it to long?

To the best of my knowledge after 7 years of research, men make 50-50 X and Y sperm. NOT 60-40. It is biologically impossible for that to happen because the way sperm is made is that XY cells split to make half X and half Y and that makes 50-50. If you have some link that says different I would like to read it. They have done tons of studies, I've read tons of studies, and yes, on occasion one comes out a little wonky (like more like 51-49) and it's thought to be because of the same reason if you took a handful of red and green m and m's they would not come out precisely 50-50 every time. There is not some magical sperm-counting machine that can precisely count numbers of X and Y in a load of semen, they have to use complex procedures to separate the sperm and then some poor lab tech has to take a sample and then count that sample, one, two three and so it is totally possible that just from random chance there is more X or Y in one sample than another.

The Duggars DO have relatively equal numbers of boys and girls but if you look at the order they were born, they have a long run of boys and a long run of girls in that. The Duggars PROVE swaying works, not that it doesn't. Something in her body, environment, or both, changed betwen when she had the boys and then the girls at the end. If we all wanted to pop out 20 kids every single one of us would have both boys and girls in there somewhere, check these people out The Arndt Family (http://famteam.com/meet-the-family/) The reason why we sway is that most of us would prefer not to do that and so we want to up the odds that our girl or boy will come along in a reasonable number of kids instead of having to wait around for our bodies to do it naturally and have 13 boys like the Arndt's did, to get one girl.

Re Africa - you realize there are over 1 billion people in Africa, right? Even in times of severe famine only a fraction of people are affected by it. ANd actually, the gender ratio in most African nations IS skewed towards more females than males conceived, instead of 105/106 boys for every 100 girls, most African countries have more like 102 girls for every 100 boys. May not seem like much but it's a huge difference. Boys are still conceived in times of famine, no doubt, and a study was done on gender ratio in African famine victims found that the moms who had boys had more muscle mass than those who had girls.

You seem to want swaying to be some sort of guarantee of gender. But it isn't, it never will be, and if you are disappointed that it isn't, you need to go HT instead. We are going from 70-75% range for blue, to 60-65% for pink - meaning that we are altering the gender ratio significantly by a few easy to make changes in diet and lifestyle and that some of us with all boys who may be coming in to TTC with a 70-75% chance or MORE, of having another boy, end up 60-65% likely to have a girl. That is HUGE and we've been keeping at that rate or better for 2 1/2 years now meaning it's not a quirk of stats, it's actually happening and it's sustainable. If you do exercise and one attempt, the odds of pink are even higher. You can call that a little change or random chance but in terms of science, this is a super big deal we've got going on here.

Personally, when I came into swaying after having 3 boys over 17 years, I knew in my gut my odds were not 50-50. My thinking was, "i'll sway to GET to 50-50 and then I'll take the coin flip at that point". Honestly, I'd be happy if we were getting 50-50 for pink because most of us with all boys ain't coming in with a 50-50 chance at a girl (and take another look at the Arndt family if you don't believe that and it's also been demonstrated scientifically that the odds of a 3rd or 4th boy after having had two, are more like 60-40). I would have been satisfied with 50-50 shot at pink in our stats and that we are getting better than 50-50, is phenominal.

[atomic sagebrush]

mybyc interesting you say that. My girl was concieved around halloween day and early Nov. I also had a girl in highschool (I usually don't mention.), who is with a loving adoptive family within our family, who also was concieved the same time around Halloween day and early November. Maybe it is everyone filling up on empty calories from the Halloween candy thats producing the girls? lol My boys were concieved in Dec, Feb/march?, and July. My SIL was due the same time as my ds3 and she had a girl and I would of had a boy. Weird though that it does seem that the Oct/Nov months hold true for me for a girl.

Please understand that in the world of studying gender ratio, because men make 50-50 sperm, anything that alters the gender ratio even a tiny amount, provided that it stays consistent over time, is a major discovery. It doesn't mean that any of it is a magic bullet, and even in the boy/girl months there wer still tons of opposites conceived in those months. We are just looking for things that may help up the odds a little bit.

[atomic sagebrush]

Well, let me tell you that everyone I know and has girls they concieved in Oct - Nov ....boys in apr-may-june....weird....
I did in May...

Studies that are done by doctors and researchers that involve tens of thousands of people outweigh anyone's personal observations.

Also, everyone please keep in mind that people in other countries do not celebrate the same holidays in the same ways that we do in our own countries. WE have people on this site from around the world and everyone has their own unique customs and holidays that don't necessarily mesh with ours. :)