Why not low carb for swaying girl?

[Navywife620]

When we tried with DS3, I went completely vegetarian. We are still on the fence about trying again. Just by looking at the people around who have girls a lot of them are cardio junkies and only eat chicken breast and veggies and very little carbs. One of them was on the paleo diet when she conceived her daughter (after a son). So this made me think everyone is talking about carbs and to eat bad carbs when swaying but carbs will raise your sugar levels. So would you still have luck if you ate lean low fat protein and steamed veggies and worked out a ton?

[Bigwish]

Hi navywife! I remember you! Hope you are doing fine! I see your LO is almost 1. Wow, time flies!

I asked this question also before i started swaying. But the 40-50 g of proteins a day has proven its role in swaying... And yes, carbs will raise bloodsuger, but also cause a quick decline. And eating 2 times a day will help.

I would certainly include exercise. I truly believe that was key in conceiving my daughter.

[bluebonnet22]

I will say the girl moms I know that eat "low carb" are really eating very little of anything. My friend will eat a salad with a tiny bit of chicken , skip meals frequently, and tide herself over with diet coke. Another will eat cookies behind closed doors but in public only eat steamed veggies and tiny bits of fish here and there. I wouldn't consider either of them on a traditional low carb diet (as I've done before!) which is primary healthy fats.

I do believe the low fat/low protein sways because there are scientific studies to back it up. You could eat chicken and veggies only on LE, but you just would have to keep portions really small and it wouldnt' be much food. If you eat too much protein you would build muscle which definitely seems to sway blue. I don't think you have to be vegetarian to sway pink, but I do think the main reason being vegetarian does sway pink is the low protein aspect.

Lastly, it does seem like tons of cardio has been getting good results! Many girl moms I know are work out fiends, and while some of them do hit the weights at the gym it seems that the cardio route is getting the best results on this site.

[Navywife620]

Hi navywife! I remember you! Hope you are doing fine! I see your LO is almost 1. Wow, time flies!

I asked this question also before i started swaying. But the 40-50 g of proteins a day has proven its role in swaying... And yes, carbs will raise bloodsuger, but also cause a quick decline. And eating 2 times a day will help.

I would certainly include exercise. I truly believe that was key in conceiving my daughter.

Ah Yes! I remember you!! DS3 is almost a year I can't believe it! He is seriously such a joy though! Congratulations on your girl! Have you posted your sway?

[Navywife620]

I will say the girl moms I know that eat "low carb" are really eating very little of anything. My friend will eat a salad with a tiny bit of chicken , skip meals frequently, and tide herself over with diet coke. Another will eat cookies behind closed doors but in public only eat steamed veggies and tiny bits of fish here and there. I wouldn't consider either of them on a traditional low carb diet (as I've done before!) which is primary healthy fats.

I do believe the low fat/low protein sways because there are scientific studies to back it up. You could eat chicken and veggies only on LE, but you just would have to keep portions really small and it wouldnt' be much food. If you eat too much protein you would build muscle which definitely seems to sway blue. I don't think you have to be vegetarian to sway pink, but I do think the main reason being vegetarian does sway pink is the low protein aspect.

Lastly, it does seem like tons of cardio has been getting good results! Many girl moms I know are work out fiends, and while some of them do hit the weights at the gym it seems that the cardio route is getting the best results on this site.

Yes that makes perfect sense! I was think a half of chicken breast at my 2 meals then just steamed veggies and loads of diet coke/crystal light. I can't go vegetarian again! I feel like Portions/calories/low fat/ and cardio are the most important. Luckily we bought a treadmill so I can get my cardio on anytime of day!

[maidentomother]

I think low fat (especially low saturated fats) is the single most important dietary factor for swaying pink. I do think carbs sway pink, however. And chicken is probably the 'pinkest' meat.

[atomic sagebrush]

First of all the reasons I recommend what I do is because studies have shown it. Personal observations are fine, but studies in humans and animals have shown that a higher carb, lower protein, vegetarian diet that is higher in vegetable fats than animal fats sways pink. And in terms of anecdotes there are tons of ladies on here who got boys with Paleo.

Low carb CAN sway pink. Any time you drastically change your diet in ANY way, you will probably be swaying pink. Protein alone doesn't make boys, protein plus carbs plus a ton of other stuff makes boys (and I have never said any differently dating back to the earliest days back on IG). The problem is, firstly that I don't think it's going to be as reliable for the population as a whole, because a) the nutrients contained in meat can sway blue b) tons of people can't stick to a low carb diet, end up cheating, and that puts them right back in protein + carb land swaying blue and c)I do not think Atkins diet in the weight loss range, is safe before pregnancy and turning a low carb diet into a safe, prepregnancy diet by adding carbs and getting it out of ketosis, puts it right back into the land of blue.

You're not following how carbs and blood sugar work. IN anyone with a normal blood sugar response, yes, blood sugar levels go up upon eating mainly empty carbs but then they'll quickly drop lower than they were before. Your body doesn't like this, and then has to burn off stores of fat and muscle to bring your blood sugar back to a normal range (that is, if you don't eat anything else) . So NO, eating carbs doesn't really raise your blood sugar levels over time (and keep in mind we don't even KNOW that this is the case that blood sugar has anything to do with swaying anyway, it's just one hypothesis among many others, and even if true we don't know how it works.)

In people who DON'T have that good blood sugar control, they need to change the diet up a bit to contain more protein and fat, and less carbs, and better quality carbs. That's why I have the alternate diets.

[atomic sagebrush]

I will say the girl moms I know that eat "low carb" are really eating very little of anything. My friend will eat a salad with a tiny bit of chicken , skip meals frequently, and tide herself over with diet coke. Another will eat cookies behind closed doors but in public only eat steamed veggies and tiny bits of fish here and there. I wouldn't consider either of them on a traditional low carb diet (as I've done before!) which is primary healthy fats.

I do believe the low fat/low protein sways because there are scientific studies to back it up. You could eat chicken and veggies only on LE, but you just would have to keep portions really small and it wouldnt' be much food. If you eat too much protein you would build muscle which definitely seems to sway blue. I don't think you have to be vegetarian to sway pink, but I do think the main reason being vegetarian does sway pink is the low protein aspect.

Lastly, it does seem like tons of cardio has been getting good results! Many girl moms I know are work out fiends, and while some of them do hit the weights at the gym it seems that the cardio route is getting the best results on this site.

:agree: totally this. What I see happening (and I haven't actually SEEN this, I mean I envision it) is that those of us who love to eat, will go onto a "low carb" diet and be doing the cheese and bacon on broccoli thing and tons of butter and ranch dip (I've seen several people who gained weight on low carb diets doing exactly that), and then also sneak in some carby cheats and it's going to be a recipe for boys.

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes that makes perfect sense! I was think a half of chicken breast at my 2 meals then just steamed veggies and loads of diet coke/crystal light. I can't go vegetarian again! I feel like Portions/calories/low fat/ and cardio are the most important. Luckily we bought a treadmill so I can get my cardio on anytime of day!

Won't you waste away to nothing doing that, though? BE sure to give yourself enough time for your body to adjust because it's not unusual for people's cycles to totally stop on low carb diets.

[Navywife620]

Thanks so much for your input Atomic. With DS3 I ate a lot of white rice and pasta and I feel maybe doing the carbs didn't work for me? I know everyone is different. I am just wondering if I need to go a different route this time. Maybe cleaning eating route. With DS1 we ate out a ton and I ate horribly. DS2 We ate a lot of frozen meals, we ate out at fast food a lot. Burger king at least once a week. DS3 I did LE, vegetarian, steamed broccoli/steamed asparagus,white rice, pasta, no breakfast, a ton of diet coke, hershey candy bars, 1200- 1300 calories a day, and 1 attempt with a pull out. Still a boy. Maybe swaying doesn't work for me? I just was observing all the people I know who have girls and their lifestyle and I see cleaner eaters and cardio junkies. So thought maybe try that?

[ratcliffe1811]

if it helps i know a lot of girls mums whose idea of a healthy meal is vodka and a curry and would probably die if they heard the word exercise, my observations show that a lot of people who have different gender kiddies seem to have more than one baby daddy but that doesnt mean that we arent gonna get a girl by sticking with DH, tis weird stuff.

[atomic sagebrush]

I always recommend anyone who got an opposite on crash and burn LE to try the alt diet if they sway again. That is a LOT more like you describe, "cleaner eating" with more fruit and veg and less grain foods :agree: I'd still go easy in the meat dept. Some is ok, would not do Atkins diet if for no other reason than the safety factor.

Swaying is not, cannot, and will not ever be a guarantee of gender. Even with the absolutely best sway tactics available we get between 20-40% opposites. So it's not a matter of being a "unicorn" and you're the one person who is immune to swaying, it's just that you either had bad luck or that your body is just good at shaking off sway tactics or a little of both.

[atomic sagebrush]

if it helps i know a lot of girls mums whose idea of a healthy meal is vodka and a curry and would probably die if they heard the word exercise, my observations show that a lot of people who have different gender kiddies seem to have more than one baby daddy but that doesnt mean that we arent gonna get a girl by sticking with DH, tis weird stuff.

:agree: there is more than one path to getting a DD. I made the diets because people requested that I do so, but never take that to mean that I think it's the ONLY way (or honestly, even the BEST way, to get a DD)

Some evidence (dating back to Old Charlie Darwin himself) indicates when the baby daddy is not consistently around, that means more girls conceived. I do know a girl from IG who has 5 girls and 4 or 5 baby daddies (and a very cool girl, don't get me wrong!! no judgement implied). But plenty of exceptions on that one. :)

[carmella_marie]

With my second child I did the traditional gender dreaming sway with the low everything diet and I went the couch potato route and I still ended up having a boy. I know swaying isn't 100% so I'm not sure if I just had bad luck or if the diet and lack of exercise actually caused my testosterone to go up and sway boy.

While I've never been officially diagnosed with PCOS I do have PCOS tendencies so this time around I am trying atomic's PCOS diet. The sugar and white flour in the traditional low everything diet can cause insulin problems and high testosterone, swaying blue if you have PCOS.

So for my next sway I'm doing the PCOS diet getting my carbs mainly from brown rice whole-grain bread's and pastas and potatoes, eating lots of low nutrient vegetables cooked in vegetable oil or margarine and getting my protein from egg whites cheese and beans. I'm also doing intense cardio 60 minutes a day six and seven days a week.

There are also supplements that work well for PCOS pink swayers like vitex, cinnamon, and a little bit of magnesium.

We tend to think of vegetables and brown rice as being really healthy when in fact if you look it up and do the research there's way more nutrients vitamins and minerals in meats/chicken/fish and fruits and saturated fats then there are in those vegetables

[Navywife620]

I always recommend anyone who got an opposite on crash and burn LE to try the alt diet if they sway again. That is a LOT more like you describe, "cleaner eating" with more fruit and veg and less grain foods :agree: I'd still go easy in the meat dept. Some is ok, would not do Atkins diet if for no other reason than the safety factor.

Swaying is not, cannot, and will not ever be a guarantee of gender. Even with the absolutely best sway tactics available we get between 20-40% opposites. So it's not a matter of being a "unicorn" and you're the one person who is immune to swaying, it's just that you either had bad luck or that your body is just good at shaking off sway tactics or a little of both.

Oh I know there is no guarantee! I have some some pretty good hardcore by the book sways get opposites and then laid back semi sways get their desired gender! I would be ok with another boy, so that is why I am thinking why not try something else. Because never in my life have I been a cleaner eater. Normally carbs and processed foods were my go to. Oh and eating out. I wouldn't eat a lot of chicken. But I think I need some protein in there especially if I am going to be working out so much. I don't want to get burnt out too fast and then likely cheat. I was thinking a little chicken, white rice, and steamed veggies. I would probably limit my fruit intake?? Also what are your thoughts on pre-workout drinks/thermogencis from AF to O. I am thinking about adding them as it will help me be able to get the workouts in that I need and they even curb appetites. I also was reading online that thermogenics can actually make your lose muscle mass.. which is good!

[atomic sagebrush]

I think that anything that doesn't have added nutrients can be ok in a pink sway, but you have to be careful with most things designed for exercise and weight loss because they like to shove some vitamins in 'em to make them look healthy. :)

Personally, I'd have you continue with fruit to ensure you were getting some cals from somewhere.

[Navywife620]

Great thank you!! I will definitely look at the labels. The one I am looking at has vitamins B12 and B6... If I remember correctly someone added those vitamins to their sway and got a girl. It also has Niacin ( I'll have to look that one up). And of course caffeine.

[carmella_marie]

People sometimes add vitamin B to their sways because it is thought to increase progesterone and we used to think that progesterone ways pink but there's not really any evidence to back up the progesterone swinging pink. We are sure that (through several studies) that nutrients dway blue so I'd be careful with the B vitamins.

[maidentomother]

I'd avoid any B vitamins. Also, if you can, it's better to exercise on an empty stomach as it burns more muscle. Of course, if you can't get through a workout without something beforehand, do what you need to do. I have found caffeine super helpful for energizing my workouts - it got me through them on days when I used to fast for extended periods.

[Navywife620]

See I am trying to see if the B vitamins in the thermogenic might outweigh everything else. I don't think I could do 60 minutes of running without that thermogenic because it will give me the extra push and energy I need. Plus it will curb my appetite so I will be likely to stay within my calorie intake. I only plan on taking Folic Acid nothing else. I took vitex and all the other "girl" sups with DS3 and I don't feel like they swayed much at all.

[carmella_marie]

I eat a banana before I work out in the am (5:30 am)and an able to do my whole workout and make it to lunch time without eating anything else besides black coffee that is!.

[ratcliffe1811]

i'm doing couch potato atm but iv read that having a cup of coffee before exercise can help, not only keep you going but boost your metabolism too. But since i am sitting on my backside, i cant say if it works.

[bluebonnet22]

i'm doing couch potato atm but iv read that having a cup of coffee before exercise can help, not only keep you going but boost your metabolism too. But since i am sitting on my backside, i cant say if it works.

Personally a cup of coffee with a tablespoon of creamer was enough to fuel my daily 5 mile runs. That being said, everyone is different. I did work up to it which I think helped. For the first month I'd run only 30 minutes and didn't run the full hour until I'd been active for 6 weeks. I sometimes would get that low blood sugar feeling after my run when I got back home, but I never got overly hungry or shaky or unable to complete my workout with just the coffee and normally I'm a HUGE breakfast eater.

[Navywife620]

I did couch potato with DS3 and I am SO mad I did it. I was running 6 to 7 miles a day and stopped because I thought the whole couch potato would be best ( a lot of people were using it as a sway tactic then) Now I am seeing that people have had more of a success with hardcore cardio so I am doing that route! Plus working out makes me feel better and in a better mood!

[carmella_marie]

I also went couch potato with my last sway and now I regret it. I was chasing after a toddler, working in a highly active job, and living in a location that allowed me to walk everywhere, so it's not like I was really a couch potato anyway. Now I'm doing cardio I don't always love it, but it is easier than I thought it would be and I have noticed serious changes that I hope are swaying pink for me.

[atomic sagebrush]

Great thank you!! I will definitely look at the labels. The one I am looking at has vitamins B12 and B6... If I remember correctly someone added those vitamins to their sway and got a girl. It also has Niacin ( I'll have to look that one up). And of course caffeine.

I strongly, strongly advise against adding B6 and B12 to a pink sway. I believe they both sway blue and I got my 4th boy taking 100 mg B6 and some amount of B12 (not sure how much exactly) then my girl not taking either one.

The old school sway tactics used to claim those swayed pink becasue they "raised progesterone" but no study was ever done on them or even on progesterone levels themselves to prove that hypothesis.

[mommymachine]

I strongly, strongly advise against adding B6 and B12 to a pink sway. I believe they both sway blue and I got my 4th boy taking 100 mg B6 and some amount of B12 (not sure how much exactly) then my girl not taking either one.

The old school sway tactics used to claim those swayed pink becasue they "raised progesterone" but no study was ever done on them or even on progesterone levels themselves to prove that hypothesis.

Thanks for this Atomic!!! I totally thought that B6/12 swayed girl. I used it for DD1 but not for DD2.

[Navywife620]

I strongly, strongly advise against adding B6 and B12 to a pink sway. I believe they both sway blue and I got my 4th boy taking 100 mg B6 and some amount of B12 (not sure how much exactly) then my girl not taking either one.

The old school sway tactics used to claim those swayed pink becasue they "raised progesterone" but no study was ever done on them or even on progesterone levels themselves to prove that hypothesis.

Wow great thank you!! Do you think having a banana per workout would be ok? I don't think I could run for an hour on nothing.

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, that's fine, BUT I do want to let you know that once upon a time (in between when I had my first 2 boys and my second 2 boys LOL) I used to be in super good shape and one time I ate a banana before a workout and I have never had a blood sugar crash like that one!! OMG it was so bad I actually had to stop working out to eat and I was really quite fit then so it had to be the banana.