Breastfeeding

[2boysJustOneGirl]

I am looking for a thread on breastfeeding and can't seem to find it. My first question is, does it sway pink? My next question is can I take Saw Palmetto while breastfeeding? My 10 month old only nurses 2-3 times per day.


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[atomic sagebrush]

a)I believe it sways pink, threads here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/2200-swaying-while-breastfeeding.html and here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/2200-swaying-while-breastfeeding.html

b)no, you can't use saw palmetto while nursing. I do not think it gets the results to justify ANY level of risk, even if distant.

[LilithWiser1979]

Breastfeeding sways more pink than saw palmetto, so take comfort in that :)

I was upset that a lot of the supps were out of my reach because of breastfeeding, at first, but LE diet+exercise+one attempt is getting amazing results for pink. Add breastfeeding in and that's a solid sway!

[2boysJustOneGirl]

Thanks ladies. What about Vitex?


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[hotdogz&boyz]

I *think* Vitex is safe for BFing, I think mamas sometimes use it to encourage their cycle to return. But wait until Atomic confirms that. I vaguely remember reading it.

And yes, it's thought that breastfeeding sways pink. There are plenty of women who have blue while breastfeeding, but if you "add" it to a sway of dieting and exercising, it can tip your balance a bit too. I have a girl from a breastfeeding sway (and we will see in March if the second breastfeeding sway is also a girl).

[Navywife620]

Does it matter how much you are breastfeeding or does breastfeeding at all sway? DS3 is 10 months and if we continue beyond a year I know he probably nurse as much. Maybe a couple times a day.

[LilithWiser1979]

I was BF my 3 yo DS2 as part of my sway. He nursed once or twice a day, if that. I'm guessing BF more often would sway harder, based on the fact that it lowers fertility more, but anything is helpful :)

[Navywife620]

I'm just wondering if I should push up my seat so I can use breastfeeding part of it. Thoughts anyone?

[2boysJustOneGirl]

From what I read in he above link from atomic is breastfeeding can inhibit ovulation, especially if nursing every 4 hours in the day and every 6 hours at night. So more may not be better.


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[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks ladies. What about Vitex?


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I believe vitex to be safe when taken during breastfeeding in the 2w on, rest of cycle off pattern. I'd not take it all month and I'd not use it with a baby younger than 9 months (even though admittedly I did so back when I didn't know any better.) I took it twice when BF and got one b 1 g, which doesn't sound great but then again I got 3 boys without it.

I do think V sways pink but the stats are not great and BF has gotten better results than V.

[atomic sagebrush]

Does it matter how much you are breastfeeding or does breastfeeding at all sway? DS3 is 10 months and if we continue beyond a year I know he probably nurse as much. Maybe a couple times a day.

I think breastfeeding at all sways. hormonal stuff happens when you're lactating and it carries on even when doing it just a bit.

Agree with Lilith, my successful sway I was nursing a 2 year old and he didn't nurse that much.

[atomic sagebrush]

From what I read in he above link from atomic is breastfeeding can inhibit ovulation, especially if nursing every 4 hours in the day and every 6 hours at night. So more may not be better.


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Yeah but for most people you'll start ovulating at some point anyway if your wee one is old enough to be planning another pregnancy. even if you're nursing quite a bit. Not always, but usually. :)

[Navywife620]

Atomic would you recommend someone to move their sway to incorporate breastfeeding?

[hotdogz&boyz]

^^I believe on another thread Atomic addressed this and said that she wouldn't move a sway based solely on incorporating breastfeeding unless it was the difference of a few months or both parties were completely on board with having another at that time. You can have a strong sway without breastfeeding. And I believe she said it was an additional bonus, but only if the other aspects of your sway were strong would she encourage you to move it up (meaning don't try next month because you are breastfeeding, unless you have already been doing the diet, lifestyle, exercise changes, ya know?). It's a pretty personal decision. We DID incorporate breastfeeding into our sway, we could have waited a few more months to try, but felt that nursing a 13 month old was already helping and that waiting until she was 16 months might not have the same benefits (I thought she might wean by then and it has proven to be true). So, it kinda depends what kind of "move up" you mean (3-4 months or a year or two). Ill see if that thread is still floating around to link in.

[hotdogz&boyz]

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-girl/43761-does-spacing-between-pregnancies-affects-sway-how.html

^^She kinda addresses it here. It was the thread I was thinking of :) Hope that helps!

[Navywife620]

Thanks Hotdogz!! Well my son is 10 months, I was going to try and stop at 1 year but I might have trouble doing that as he loves to breastfeed. We werent going to do the first attempt until April. My husband is game for whatever ( he's so laid back). Me on the other hand is more wanting to wait. I wanted to wait until after the holidays because I know I would not be able to do the diet that well doing that time. So I think it would probably be better if I wait until after so I know my diet can me on point 100%. and If I am breastfeeding still then it will be a bonus! :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Atomic would you recommend someone to move their sway to incorporate breastfeeding?

If it's a feasible thing to do, but I get nervous when people put their kids closer than they want, in order to incorporate it, if that makes any sense.

[2boysJustOneGirl]

The good thing about this is the flip side- breastfeeding longer so that it can incorporate a future sway!


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[atomic sagebrush]

^^^^ see that is what I think, I'm like "YAY a legit reason to keep breastfeeding" but then there are quite a few people who are like "get this kid off me" LOL (and neither way is right or wrong, it's just a matter of personal preference)

[maidentomother]

ROFL, so true! I think so much of it is hormonal, and getting 'touched out' is no fun from what I've heard. I have fantasies of BFing for years but who knows how I will feel when it's actually happening or how things will pan out.

I wonder if even having recently stopped BF can sway, a lingering effect for a while as the body rebuilds depleted nutrient stores?

[atomic sagebrush]

I think it may sway a little bit even after you stop but of course would not count on that as a sway tactic.

I'm not totally sure if it is the nutrients (as many BFers can tell you, it makes you REALLY hungry and most BFers are eating quite a bit) or if it's the subtle suppression of fertility overall and more hormone based, or both.

[mommymachine]

I was still breastfeeding my 10.5 month old DS3 when I conceived DD1, and still breastfeeding her at 13 months when I conceived DD2. I do not want to TTC for a while yet, but I would love to still be breastfeeding next year for my sway.

[QueenB3blue]

I never wanted my kids close enough together to still be bfing the last. But I can see how it would sway. Especially for me. After a few months of bfing all 3 of my boys my hair fell out like crazy, I would get dizzy/weak spells and can even remember having a couple episodes at night were I got cold sweats and was super nauseous. Declining maternal condition for sure. And I ate all day long and still felt this way! My boys were 9 and 10 pounders at birth though(I am just 5ft 3in) and they nursed ever 2-3 hrs around the clock, so that could have had something to do with it!

O and I do remember having the dizzy spells still a few months after weaning even.

[atomic sagebrush]

I just want to clarify something for everyone reading this post. It is SUPER common for people to mistake normal postpartum symptoms as being caused by breastfeeding when it is really the sudden drop in hormones, blood loss, etc that is doing it and breastfeeding is totally not to blame.

EVERYONE loses hair about 4-6 months after giving birth, it's called telogen effluvium and can also happen after stopping or starting birth control pills. IT's totally hormonal, happens to everyone, and has nothing to do with breastfeeding.

Night sweats and hot flashes for months after birth are related to having high levels of hormones during pregnancy and then suddenly they drop. IT's the exact same thing that women in menopause have. Nausea can also be related to rapidly changing levels of hormones. Again, totally normal and nothing to do with breastfeeding.

Feeling weak and dizzy may possibly be related to nursing (it can lower your blood sugar a bit) but also can be hormonal OR related to the large amounts of blood you lose after having a baby.

[QueenB3blue]

I really didn't want my post to sound negative towards BF :-/
I guess I just assumed all my nausea and weakness was from BF because I could literally eat 2 frozen pizzas and a half a pan of brownies every day while BF and not gain a single pound.
Thank you for clarifying ;)

[atomic sagebrush]

NO you weren't sounding negative, it's just that I have seen that happen many times where people will be told that they even need to give UP breastfeeding for symptoms that are 100% postpartum related and people who are bottlefeeders will also experience. There is such a huge hormonal shift that happens that first 6-9 months after having a baby that it does all kinds of stuff.

I could also eat like a horse when BF! Very common.