One attempt

[Sp4rkl3s]

Yesterday morning, I got a positive OPK. DH released in the morning and last night we DTD.
I know that having just one attempt is getting good results, but does it reduce the chance of pregnancy by very much? I'm tempted to DTD again tonight to increase chance of BFP, but not if it isn't worth the risk.

[bunnywabbit]

The best results is one attempt at positive opk and is usually enough. I personally wouldn't try again. FX you caught the egg

[bluebonnet22]

No, if your timing is good (sounds like yours was!), don't add attempts! Many of us get pregnant with just one attempt quickly. I would wait 3 months (personally) before adding attempts, but obviously it's your sway and you have to decide how important pink vs getting pg quickly is to you.

[Sp4rkl3s]

We also DTD on Monday, 3 days ago, but I'm thinking that would have been long enough before ovulation not to count?
I would love to get pregnant quickly as I'm 38, but I only have one chance at having a girl as this will be our last baby, so I want to have a good go at a sway!

[txmomof3beautifulboys]

I just got pregnant after having sex 3 days before ovulation..I questioned my timing as well, but didnt want to add another attempt and viola...ended up with baby :)....don't count yourself out :)

[atomic sagebrush]

It is totally not worth the risk. It is totally possible to get pregnant with one attempt provided you aren't doing a kajillion other things to sway.

Odds of pink drop by 10% with 2 attempts, and by 25% with 3 attempts. Stick with one as long as you can.

[atomic sagebrush]

We also DTD on Monday, 3 days ago, but I'm thinking that would have been long enough before ovulation not to count?
I would love to get pregnant quickly as I'm 38, but I only have one chance at having a girl as this will be our last baby, so I want to have a good go at a sway!

Yes probably does not count if you're 38 (swimmers may not last as long.)

I got preggo at 41 1/2 with one attempt. :)

[Sp4rkl3s]

I've been using clearblue duel OPK. I had 4 days of flashing smileys, then a solid smiley yesterday.
We DTD Monday 2 days before solid smiley, then DTD last night 16 hours after solid test result.
I'm worried that LH surge might have started Tuesday after I tested and therefore not picked up until yesterday's test, which has would mean that ovulation could have happened before we DTD last night, given that it could happen 12 hours after first surge.
Did I wait too long? Could I have missed it?

Hope that makes sense!

[hotdogz&boyz]

^^Sounds like you did fine.

And I agree about sticking to one attempt. Three of my four pregnancies have been "one hit wonders". It can and does do the trick ;) Lol. But the stats are good for one attempt. Keep at it for a bit.

[Sp4rkl3s]

Clearblue recommend testing in the morning, but if the surge started the afternoon before, and we don't get chance to DTD until the evening of the positive, could it be too late?

[Sp4rkl3s]

I was still stressing over this, so I phoned Clearblue and asked them about testing just once a day first thing in the morning, as I have read that LH surge is usually first detectable from around midday, meaning that by the time I get my positive the next morning I might have already ovulated!? They advised me that the second peak day could catch the egg after ovulation.

I'm going to post details if my attempt. I'm thinking we might not have done enough to make conception likely. I'm 38. DH is 44.
I only tested with OPK once a day when I woke up.

I'd be very grateful for your thoughts.

Sunday 11pm - DH released outside
Monday 8am negative opk
Monday midday - DH released outside
Monday 2pm, 2hours after release - DTD
Tuesday 8am negative opk
Wednesday 8am positive opk
Wednesday 9am - DH released outside
Wednesday night midnight - DTD

[hotdogz&boyz]

Even if your second time DTD was too far after ovulation (it probably wasn't anyway), your Monday DTD was in the fertile window as well. I wouldn't stress over it. Its done now. I think your chances are fin for pregnancy.

[Sp4rkl3s]

I want to think that we weren't too late Wednesday midnight, but if surges usually start in the afternoon, and ovulation is 12-36 hours later, ovulation would have been early hours of Thursday morning at latest, and don't we need at least 8 hours after DTD for sperm to capacitate?

[shree]

Yes probably does not count if you're 38 (swimmers may not last as long.)

I got preggo at 41 1/2 with one attempt. :)

I hope no one minds me asking about my attempt in this thread. Atomic, You have advised me to dtd every 4 days starting at af and going through ovulation. Is this what is meant by 1 attempt? thank u x

[hotdogz&boyz]

^^Yes. Only one attempt will be in the fertile window if you DTD every 4 days.

[Abifasc]

I got pregnant on our 2nd month ttc with one attempt. It's a boy, but still a healthy successful attempt :)

[3girl]

My DS2 was conceived with one attempt.

This time one attempt is not cutting it so I'm going to have to add another which worries me.

[LoveMyKids]

I got pregnant two times with one attempt - both results are boys :-) DS#2 was conceived when I was 37 and DS#3 at 38 (for DS#3 this one time was about 4 days before O, we didn't DTD for a week after that since DH was out of town, so I don't know how this little guy made it through))) So I guess one attempt does not sway pink for us... But I know that both times (we were not swaying, they were oops pregnancies) we did not DTD 5-7 days before that one attempt, which makes me think that if we decide to TTC pink in the future we should try FR for DH. Does it make sense?

[Sp4rkl3s]

Lots of DS's from one attempt! But good to hear of successful pregnancies from it, congratulations tulations.!
I'm worried that my first attemp, on Monday, was straight after a release outside, and was shallow, and I J&D'd, thinking that wouldn't leave many swimmers to get through! So was relying on Wednesdays attempt, which I now think was too late! :(

[Sarah4girl]

Yes I'm kind of wondering about the one attempt for girl thing. When reading the 'how we made our girls' thread the majority had multiple attempts in the fertile window. Hmmm


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[atomic sagebrush]

I've been using clearblue duel OPK. I had 4 days of flashing smileys, then a solid smiley yesterday.
We DTD Monday 2 days before solid smiley, then DTD last night 16 hours after solid test result.
I'm worried that LH surge might have started Tuesday after I tested and therefore not picked up until yesterday's test, which has would mean that ovulation could have happened before we DTD last night, given that it could happen 12 hours after first surge.
Did I wait too long? Could I have missed it?

Hope that makes sense!

I think that whatever will be, will be at this point and you need to say, ok, that was my August attempt and let it go and not call any more companies LOL. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/33517-maternal-dominance-hypothesis-priviledged-daughter-hypothesis.html

[atomic sagebrush]

Clearblue recommend testing in the morning, but if the surge started the afternoon before, and we don't get chance to DTD until the evening of the positive, could it be too late?

I am really not a huge fan of the Clearblues, but you need to follow the directions as they are given by the company because that's how they are designed to work.

[atomic sagebrush]

I want to think that we weren't too late Wednesday midnight, but if surges usually start in the afternoon, and ovulation is 12-36 hours later, ovulation would have been early hours of Thursday morning at latest, and don't we need at least 8 hours after DTD for sperm to capacitate?

I just really, really think you are overthinking all this and please read the Maternal Dominance Hypothesis because this is the exact type of "swaycessing" that I like people to avoid. :)

[SamS_TTCPink]

Only one of our boys was one attempt, and now I'm pregnant with twins after one attempt so it's defiantly possible to get PG! 😉 Obviously don't know the gender yet but crossing everything that one is a girl. Our attempt early in the year that ended in m/c was a one attempt too.

[atomic sagebrush]

I hope no one minds me asking about my attempt in this thread. Atomic, You have advised me to dtd every 4 days starting at af and going through ovulation. Is this what is meant by 1 attempt? thank u x

One attempt just means 1 attempt in the fertile window (which lasts in a practical sense from O-3 thru O day - while you can get pg from attempts 4-5 days before O, so few pregnancies happen from that, that it's hardly worth consideration.)

DTD every 4 days is just an easy way to be in with 1 attempt in the fertile window. Some people prefer to have attempts every 4 days, others every 4th day (hope that makes sense) IN the worst case scenario (you end up DTD on O-3 and O Day) there will either be nothing left from that first attempt OR it will already have fertilized the egg before the attempt from O Day can capacitate and make it to the egg.

Some people, instead of DTD every 4 days, prefer to mix and match with frequency patterns and they DON'T DTD every 4 days but instead have their husbands abstain or do daily release and then have only one attempt at positive OPK, or even with a cutoff.

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes I'm kind of wondering about the one attempt for girl thing. When reading the 'how we made our girls' thread the majority had multiple attempts in the fertile window. Hmmm


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This does not prove or disprove anything. Those people are coming into all this SET for girls via diet, lifestyle, or some other reason we can only guess at.

In our stats, some of those women like me have had as many 4-5 boys and that we are getting 70% success rate with one attempt, and that this has stayed at this rate or higher since the earliest days we were tracking the stats (better than the overall success rates of the site) is very meaningful and I STRONGLY urge everyone to stick with one attempt as long as possible. Drop all other sway tactics that may interfere with conception like jelly, douche, frequency, timing, before dropping that one attempt.

[atomic sagebrush]

I got pregnant two times with one attempt - both results are boys :-) DS#2 was conceived when I was 37 and DS#3 at 38 (for DS#3 this one time was about 4 days before O, we didn't DTD for a week after that since DH was out of town, so I don't know how this little guy made it through))) So I guess one attempt does not sway pink for us... But I know that both times (we were not swaying, they were oops pregnancies) we did not DTD 5-7 days before that one attempt, which makes me think that if we decide to TTC pink in the future we should try FR for DH. Does it make sense?

One attempt sways for EVERYONE. But 30% opposites is still a lot of little dudes conceived. Swaying is not a magic bullet. Just because something didn't work for you once or twice, that doesn't mean it doesn't or couldn't work. You just had so much other blue-friendly stuff happening plus the cards didn't go your way that time. May very well be that one attempt took you from having 80% chance of a boy to 60% chance of a boy - but you still came in with better than 50-50 odds of a little dude! It is just a big step in the wrong direction to decide to do the opposite on one of the handful of things that's actually getting consistent results.

I BEG YOU if you are 39-40-41, PLEASE drop the FR, it just isn't working and it will lower your odds of conception too much. Keep the one attempt as long as possible.

[LoveMyKids]

One attempt sways for EVERYONE. But 30% opposites is still a lot of little dudes conceived. Swaying is not a magic bullet. Just because something didn't work for you once or twice, that doesn't mean it doesn't or couldn't work. You just had so much other blue-friendly stuff happening plus the cards didn't go your way that time. May very well be that one attempt took you from having 80% chance of a boy to 60% chance of a boy - but you still came in with better than 50-50 odds of a little dude! It is just a big step in the wrong direction to decide to do the opposite on one of the handful of things that's actually getting consistent results.

I BEG YOU if you are 39-40-41, PLEASE drop the FR, it just isn't working and it will lower your odds of conception too much. Keep the one attempt as long as possible.

Atomic, thanks for your reply! Yes, I understand that one attempt is not a magic bullet and I really didn't do much else for swaying pink (no diet, etc.). If we decide to TTC pink I will still stick to one attempt but what I meant is to try for DH to release (outside) every day before that one attempt instead of abstaining for 5-7 days as he did with DS#2 and #3. Taking into consideration how easy I got pregnant at 37 and 38, I guess he has pretty high sperm count (even though he is 43), so I was thinking that releasing for a few days in a row before DTD may sway pink for us? What do you think?

[Sp4rkl3s]

I am very obsessive, and TTC & swaying is something else I obsess over, as much I wish wouldn't! I have some OCD and things matter to me for more that they should.. eg. I'd rather have a May baby than June, which is why this month TTC was so important.
I had read about the Maternal Dominance, and I'm really hoping that the other parts of my sway will overcome by obsessive mind and my stress of not being able to control the situation.

[kitkat18]

Sp4rkl3s my advice if you are obsessive, yes im pretty Martha too!! Is to try every four days BD no opks, giving up My fitness pal if you have been on diet a little while you should get the hang of knowing when you are in your limits and lastly a really hard one but it helped me having some time off gender dreaming (although I love it toooo bits) but I would keep thinking my sway needs to be better etc etc and I would need to be on here like 10x a day!! Just my two cents good luck xxx
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[atomic sagebrush]

Atomic, thanks for your reply! Yes, I understand that one attempt is not a magic bullet and I really didn't do much else for swaying pink (no diet, etc.). If we decide to TTC pink I will still stick to one attempt but what I meant is to try for DH to release (outside) every day before that one attempt instead of abstaining for 5-7 days as he did with DS#2 and #3. Taking into consideration how easy I got pregnant at 37 and 38, I guess he has pretty high sperm count (even though he is 43), so I was thinking that releasing for a few days in a row before DTD may sway pink for us? What do you think?

Yes, that's the "daily release" I was referring to. Our results have shown daily release to be ineffective and it really lowers odds of conception significantly so for anyone late 30's and up I do think you're probably better off doing regular release for DH to actually up sperm numbers (release on his own or with you with a condom every 2-4 days) then keep the one attempt.

[atomic sagebrush]

I am very obsessive, and TTC & swaying is something else I obsess over, as much I wish wouldn't! I have some OCD and things matter to me for more that they should.. eg. I'd rather have a May baby than June, which is why this month TTC was so important.
I had read about the Maternal Dominance, and I'm really hoping that the other parts of my sway will overcome by obsessive mind and my stress of not being able to control the situation.

My point in posting that was to say, hey look, obsessing over and writing up the timeline for when you may have ovulated is prob. not the best for the old Martha tendencies. :) If it's done, wave bye-bye and let it go.

[LoveMyKids]

Yes, that's the "daily release" I was referring to. Our results have shown daily release to be ineffective and it really lowers odds of conception significantly so for anyone late 30's and up I do think you're probably better off doing regular release for DH to actually up sperm numbers (release on his own or with you with a condom every 2-4 days) then keep the one attempt.

Thank you, Atomic, I will keep this in mind! It is still about 2 years till (and if) we TTC, so I will be slowly getting all the info and making my notes, and then I will for sure get the customized plan since I feel it will make things so much easier:fingers:

[Sp4rkl3s]

I also thought that frequent release was the thing to do, one if the reasons I posted my time line, to find out if we had done too much or if there were likely to be any swimmers got through.

[Sp4rkl3s]

... mainly because I was obsessing, but also so I can plan for next time if we are out this month.

[2blue1pink]

I got pregnant first month swaying with one attempt the day before my + opk and 2-3 days before ovulation. Both our boys we attempted as much as we could stand it. I have no doubt about it being a good sway tactic because every "surprise" pregnancy I know (1" attempt") has been a girl. After doing multiple months of fertility treatments for ds1, I had serious doubt's about actually getting pregnant from 1x but it happened easily enough for me.)

[atomic sagebrush]

I also thought that frequent release was the thing to do, one if the reasons I posted my time line, to find out if we had done too much or if there were likely to be any swimmers got through.

Here is what you have to ask yourself. Is it worth it to you, to possibly, even PROBABLY, throw a month of TTC away (due to drastically lower odds of conception) on something that probably does not sway? AND also possibly burn up your husband's good will on a tactic that is very invasive for him, and again, probably does not sway? Every month that passes with BFN, you lose more weight, longer on diet, etc. and it is all too common to end up stopping ovulation and having to sway BLUE just in order to conceive at all.

If you're 25 years old and have a really supportive husband, then if you want to goof around with a frequency pattern, no harm done. Even at 35. But for people in late 30's-early 40's it is a big step in the wrong direction to throw away any months on something that is not getting good results. Do what it takes to get pregnant with one attempt and ASAP because one attempt is getting better results by far than frequency, and you never know when it is the last fresh egg in the carton.

[atomic sagebrush]

I also thought that frequent release was the thing to do, one if the reasons I posted my time line, to find out if we had done too much or if there were likely to be any swimmers got through.

...but of course you have to realize that the only answer to that question is if AF arrives or you get BFP. My crystal ball, sadly, is in the shop awaiting parts from Outer Mongolia and I don't know any better than anyone as to whether you did too much or not. ;)

[CdinGA]

It is totally not worth the risk. It is totally possible to get pregnant with one attempt provided you aren't doing a kajillion other things to sway.

Odds of pink drop by 10% with 2 attempts, and by 25% with 3 attempts. Stick with one as long as you can.

Atomic, do these percentages hold true even with light swaying or no swaying? Just curious

[Mrs_Incredible]

I did a "laid back away" sway, 38 yo, mum of 3 boys, and got pg with 1 attempt mth 3 or 4 (blighted ovum) and with my sticky pink bean after my mc bleed xx

Atomic - i will post my sway!! Keep forgetting ;)

[atomic sagebrush]

Atomic, do these percentages hold true even with light swaying or no swaying? Just curious

all sways. I haven't separated it out beyond that. But I do know of several people that first year of the site who had dieted themselves into oblivion and were doing super strict sways. at that point I did not yet realize that the one attempt was getting the job done - so I urged them to add attempts but keep frequency, jelly, etc. And they had tons of opposites (that was the time period where our results were lowest) So based on those experiences and also because the one attempt has stayed at 70% for the entire 3 years the site has been going, I believe the one attempt to be a strong pink sway tactic - even though I can only guess why it might work - and it appears to be something that is helping everyone's sway, regardless of strictness in other ways.

[Sp4rkl3s]

Thankyou. I will drop the frequent release and keep the one attempt next month.