Blue sway and Dh taking blood pressure meds?!

[Northernchick1]

Hi there, my dh has recently been diagnosed with high blood pressure and started meds. Now we we won't trying to conceive probably until next year sept/oct/nov but I really want to get my facts together beforehand as to how this could affect a blue sway? What can be done to counteract any effects, if possible? We conceived DS when we both naturally had a boy diet, since then 2dds have been conceived as our diets changed, less red meat and salt and caffeine. I'd really like to try for one more child, a boy if possible, and do a great blue sway diet but I'm really worried about this whole high blood pressure issue for dh. If anyone can give some advice I'd be grateful x

[foxymrsg]

Can't really offer much advice as probably my boy heavy lifestyle came into play lol, but my DH takes bp meds as his is high and we've had our second ds while he was on them so didn't effect us but suppose it can defend what meds he's on maybe? Hubby is on ramipril if that helps at all? :)

[Northernchick1]

Thanks so much for your reply. Can I ask what sort of diet your dh had, did he have much caffeine? My dh has completely stopped drinking tea/coffee and cut down on red meat and worried this may sway us more pink than blue?

[atomic sagebrush]

High blood pressure may sway pink all on its own so while I do think blood pressure meds may sway pink, you're kind of darned if you do, darned if you don't on that.

Caffeine and salt have been totally debunked as sway tactics. If anything, they sway PINK in high quantities or if you are sensitive to them, so I would feel great that he has cut back on them. Will only help your odds of blue.

[Northernchick1]

Atomic I had no idea salt and caffeine for blue sway has been debunked!? We had much more of that when DS was conceived 5 years ago so wanted to get back to the old diet in the hope it would get us another boy. What is the name of the boy diet we should both be following then? I've read some abbreviations HE and IG diets? But not read through all the definitions properly yet. Bit gutted to hear high blood pressure sways pink aswell as the meds- bit frustrating! Is there anything you would recommend in particular for my dh to be doing/taking that could help ?

[atomic sagebrush]

DH should be doing regular release (ejaculating every 2-4 days for as far in advance of your sway as is feasible), getting plenty of rest, and eating right for his health needs (meaning, do not add back in red meat to sway!) IF his blood pressure issues are related to being overweight and smoking, he needs to lose the weight (and he may even be able to reduce the dose of his medication if he does), get moderate exercise if that is allowed for him, and above all else, the single most important thing for ALL blue swayers - STOP SMOKING and cut way back on drinking.

My High Everything Diet for blue is here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-conceive-boy/16806-high-everything-diet-nutshell-version.html WE are getting great results with this. Your husband does NOT need to follow this diet, it's for you. He will get a lot more mileage out of eating right for his health - altho I would def. have him eat fewer Omega 6 fats and more Omega 3 fats (like coconut oil)
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/39013-skinny-fats-pink-blue.html

THere ARE no magic bullets. You can get a boy drinking caffeine, it's just that overall I think it's better to cut back on caff and have reasonable, normal and sane sodium intake for blue (and this is what the best science also indicates.)

[foxymrsg]

Thanks so much for your reply. Can I ask what sort of diet your dh had, did he have much caffeine? My dh has completely stopped drinking tea/coffee and cut down on red meat and worried this may sway us more pink than blue?

Hubby doesn't really drink too much caffeine but don't think that swayed tbh. (Which I'm glad about as I'm a tea junkie lol!) I think I was unintentionally swaying blue as I was snacking all day and having big portions and lots of healthy food and fish etc.

Def read the links atomic has out up you'll learn sooo much and the effort she puts on is incredible! Really clarifies things and makes it easy to understand! Good luck with your sway I am sending you all of my blue dust! :)

[Auzair]

Goodluck northernchick1 hope u get boy


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[Northernchick1]

Thanks auzair. Best of luck to you too. I've got awhile to go until ttc but feels good to be on here researching well in advance! Hope you get your blue bundle soon!

[Northernchick1]

This is great. Thanks v much. Will make sure I read it all thoroughly !

[nuthinbutpink]

They can negatively impact sperm. I would say it sways pink.

[True Blue]

You will have to bear with me here, I am about to attempt to explain something I don't fully understand!!
My DH has been taking Ramipril for several years and before our sway 2 years ago I spent weeks looking up the possible effects of ramipril on sperm. There wasn't a whole lot of information to be found but I consistently found the same answers.
There are two types of medication used to treat HBP

*angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitors
or
*calcium channel blockers (CCBs)

It is the calcium channel blockers that have a negative impact on sperm.

Ramipril is an ace inhibitor and although it can cause erectile dysfunction problems, it has to the best of my knowledge and a lot of searching no impact on sperm.

I apologise in advance for any wrong information possibly given by me here as I stated I don't fully understand but I did look into it extensively and have looked into it again after reading this thread and still come across the same information as before.

[True Blue]

Interestingly I have come across a few studies claiming low dose ace inhibitors can benefit males with poor quality semen.

Disclaimer: I wouldn't recommend anyone try ace inhibitors and these were just studies I came across.

[Auzair]

Thanks auzair. Best of luck to you too. I've got awhile to go until ttc but feels good to be on here researching well in advance! Hope you get your blue bundle soon!

I suggest u to follow what exactly atomic recommends u ll find much sensible info on this site better not to worry about Ph etc


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[Northernchick1]

Interestingly I have come across a few studies claiming low dose ace inhibitors can benefit males with poor quality semen.

Disclaimer: I wouldn't recommend anyone try ace inhibitors and these were just studies I came across.

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Hi thanks so much. My dh will be taking ramipril so that's exactly what I wanted info on. Did you sway blue while your dh was on ramipril? We've had no problems getting preg in the past so I really hope things won't chsnge in that department!

[True Blue]

I had an unsuccessful blue sway but do not feel the bp meds are the cause. It has not caused any problem for us with conception either.

[Northernchick1]

Atomic when you say dh should be releasing every 2-4 days before sway do you mean he should be doing this for several months before we start ttc or do you mean the entire month before we dtd? Sorry if that's a stupid q! Also yes dh is overweight but now going to try and lose it. He's not a drinker or smoker so that's not an issue fortunately.

[Northernchick1]

I had an unsuccessful blue sway but do not feel the bp meds are the cause. It has not caused any problem for us with conception either.

True Blue, when you next sway blue what will you do different, if at all? I'm not planning on ttc until next sept. Both dds were conceived while my diet was poor. My dh has put on weight these last few years also which always worried me. My dd2 will be under a year when we ttc blue next year, do you know if this is an issue when swaying? Thanks in advance

[True Blue]

Nothernchick I had been taking the wrong balance with some of my supps, I had the HE idea but didn't fully understand it and ate less nutrients than I should have. I had no muscle and no CM - the list goes on.
This time around we have purchased a personalized sway plan and it literally gives you everything. Now I just keep reading it and making sure I understand it enough to follow it properly when the time comes.

[True Blue]

We are planning our first attempt around March/April next year :)

[Northernchick1]

Best of luck! Will have everything crossed you get your beautiful boy

[atomic sagebrush]

You will have to bear with me here, I am about to attempt to explain something I don't fully understand!!
My DH has been taking Ramipril for several years and before our sway 2 years ago I spent weeks looking up the possible effects of ramipril on sperm. There wasn't a whole lot of information to be found but I consistently found the same answers.
There are two types of medication used to treat HBP

*angiotensin-converting enzyme (ACE) inhibitors
or
*calcium channel blockers (CCBs)

It is the calcium channel blockers that have a negative impact on sperm.

Ramipril is an ace inhibitor and although it can cause erectile dysfunction problems, it has to the best of my knowledge and a lot of searching no impact on sperm.

I apologise in advance for any wrong information possibly given by me here as I stated I don't fully understand but I did look into it extensively and have looked into it again after reading this thread and still come across the same information as before.

You have to understand that we really, truly have little to no idea what sways. This is guesswork here. So we can't give you advice to this level of specificity. The reason I say blood pressure meds sway pink is because I have seen TONS of my blue swayers whose husbands were on them and then several people whose husbands started BP meds and then got girls. Have I done a full on study and tracked all these things - no. So, I stick with my original answer to this question that I believe they ALL sway pink whehter they have a derogatory impact on sperm or not, BUT high blood pressure ALSO sways pink and it is best to treat it.

[atomic sagebrush]

Interestingly I have come across a few studies claiming low dose ace inhibitors can benefit males with poor quality semen.

Disclaimer: I wouldn't recommend anyone try ace inhibitors and these were just studies I came across.

But those guys had poor sperm health for SOME reaon that the medication then fixed. That doesn't mean it will have thateffect for everyone.

[atomic sagebrush]

Atomic when you say dh should be releasing every 2-4 days before sway do you mean he should be doing this for several months before we start ttc or do you mean the entire month before we dtd? Sorry if that's a stupid q! Also yes dh is overweight but now going to try and lose it. He's not a drinker or smoker so that's not an issue fortunately.

as far in advnce of sway as possible. sperm take 72 days to form.

[True Blue]

You have to understand that we really, truly have little to no idea what sways. This is guesswork here. So we can't give you advice to this level of specificity. The reason I say blood pressure meds sway pink is because I have seen TONS of my blue swayers whose husbands were on them and then several people whose husbands started BP meds and then got girls. Have I done a full on study and tracked all these things - no. So, I stick with my original answer to this question that I believe they ALL sway pink whehter they have a derogatory impact on sperm or not, BUT high blood pressure ALSO sways pink and it is best to treat it.

Oh I know, I had asked you about this before and you explained it to me I just thought I'd share what I found because it gave me a little peace of mind towards swaying blue while DH is on meds for high BP - I just hope that all the sway factors are stronger than the BP and meds which common sense says they can be otherwise wouldn't the answer to swaying pink be to take BP meds lol and clearly its NOT!
So there is still hope. I hope ;)

[Northernchick1]

You have to understand that we really, truly have little to no idea what sways. This is guesswork here. So we can't give you advice to this level of specificity. The reason I say blood pressure meds sway pink is because I have seen TONS of my blue swayers whose husbands were on them and then several people whose husbands started BP meds and then got girls. Have I done a full on study and tracked all these things - no. So, I stick with my original answer to this question that I believe they ALL sway pink whehter they have a derogatory impact on sperm or not, BUT high blood pressure ALSO sways pink and it is best to treat it.

Have you had anyone sway blue despite on bp meds and get their boy? Feeling abit deflated reading this.

[True Blue]

Best of luck! Will have everything crossed you get your beautiful boy

Thank you Northerchick I hope we both do :) :fx:

[True Blue]

Can't really offer much advice as probably my boy heavy lifestyle came into play lol, but my DH takes bp meds as his is high and we've had our second ds while he was on them so didn't effect us but suppose it can defend what meds he's on maybe? Hubby is on ramipril if that helps at all? :)

Northernchick - foxymrsg conceived her DS2 while her DH was on ramipril so it can be done :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Have you had anyone sway blue despite on bp meds and get their boy? Feeling abit deflated reading this.

YES!! I am talking about people who get Custom Plans, whose husbands have been on BP meds in the past and they've had girl after girl when on the BP meds and/or people who were NOT swaying (blue) and hubbies went onto them and then got a girl after a long run of boys. I am NOT talking about success rates with swaying. If I thought that BP medication was a dealbreaker for blue, I would NEVER EVER accept people's money!! :)

I am NOT talking about the outcomes of sways. We are getting betwen 70-80% success for blue depending on sway tactics used and you can see here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/add-your-boy-sway/32720-important-please-read-update-input-your-sway-results-when-you-know-gender.html that the Custom Swayers (many of whom had husbands who were on BP meds) are getting about 75%.

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh I know, I had asked you about this before and you explained it to me I just thought I'd share what I found because it gave me a little peace of mind towards swaying blue while DH is on meds for high BP - I just hope that all the sway factors are stronger than the BP and meds which common sense says they can be otherwise wouldn't the answer to swaying pink be to take BP meds lol and clearly its NOT!
So there is still hope. I hope ;)

Yes exactly!!