Rosie Update

[Rosie85]

This has been such a wild ride so far two miscarriages and 1 chemical and 1 month with no conception over the last 7 months. I saw a doctor and my progesterone is very very low. More than likely I am in the beginning stages of menopause and it has had a storm like effect on my body. It is likely that the low Prog. was the cause of my first miscarriage and maybe the second as well but surely the reason I can't even get pregnant now. So tonight I start suppositories and I am praying they work. I am nervous about side effects and such but I want a pregnancy so bad I will do anything.

So here is to a new start on trying to conceive. I will be doing very little to sway...as I am long over that all now. I just want a happy healthy bubba to add to my family.

Thanks to all who have been here for me and for all the words of encouragement over the months. I hope to report back with good news in a couple months time. No attempt for this month sadly.

I am so so grateful for this site and it really holds a special place in my heart, I don't know where I would be without it!!

[BlessedMomma]

Good luck to u Rosie!!
I am positive u will be blessed with a rainbow baby in the very near future.

[bluebonnet22]

Thank you for the update! You have a big group of cheerleaders on this site wanting the best for you. Good luck and I wish you the best. I'm sure a healthy baby #4 is out there for you.

[nuthinbutpink]

I'm glad you have a plan but I'm a little confused as to why low progesterone=menopause?? Have you had a full infertility panel done too?

[txmomof3beautifulboys]

GOOD LUCK TO YOU!!! Praying for a sticky lil bub for you! :pray::fingers:

[odd]

Good luck Rosie..it's a bummer u have to deal with this but I hope u get ur sticky and healthy (hopefully pink) bundle soon

[jmomof3girls]

How old are you Rosie?

[Rosie85]

Almost 29...I have a ton of other perimenopausal symptoms. Early menopause runs in my family unfortunately.

[mommymachine]

I really hope you will be holding a healthy baby in your arms very soon.

[Rosie85]

The doc said this stage can take up to 10 years but my fertility is declining greatly. They ran other tests and said they were low range of normal. So they are all dropping. I don't know....seems silly to me but I just listen to what they say.

[nuthinbutpink]

What is your AMH? AFC? FSH? Do you know?

[jmomof3girls]

That sucks :sad: does your doctor think you'll be able to conceive a healthy, full term baby?

[Rosie85]

Nuthin...they didnt give me my numbers over the phone just said a few came back low or abnormal and that they expected it based on my symptoms and since my thyroid is fine the doc just assumed it is the start of menopause which can still take 10 years til end of menses. And that I would just need a little help with the hormones to maintain a pregnancy.

[coocoobananas]

Oh Rosie, I'm sure you have time left especially if you know all you can and can change things around to work for you! Good luck!!!
I'll be keeping my eye out for you and a little bubba in the future;)

[nuthinbutpink]

Nuthin...they didnt give me my numbers over the phone just said a few came back low or abnormal and that they expected it based on my symptoms and since my thyroid is fine the doc just assumed it is the start of menopause which can still take 10 years til end of menses. And that I would just need a little help with the hormones to maintain a pregnancy.

I say this with love- take ownership of this and be your OWN ADVOCATE! You NEED TO KNOW YOUR NUMBERS!! If your numbers are in a normal range, you need to know all of your options! Is IVF a fit? IUI? Why menopause?? Making assumptions is dangerous and stupid on your doctor's part. Get a second opinion but please be your own advocate. Educate yourself! I am not sure what else you have tried yet(clomid, injectibles, etc) but there are lots of options and low progesterone does NOT equal menopause!

[Rosie85]

I will definitely find out what they are. It was just the nurse on the phone and she doesn't know what they all mean I am sure....she is new to obgyn and just started. I will be getting a second opinion if I don't get pregnant next month. I see the doc again in a few weeks and hopefully she can go over it better and run some more tests. I dont really care if I have menopause early as long as I get one last babe. My grandma was 42...my mom was 37 and all 3 of my aunts were around 40 as well for last menses so it would be no surprise if it happens to me. The doc said family history doesn't always doom you for the same fate though so maybe there is hope or a different reason my hormones are all wacky.

[nuthinbutpink]

The losses could definitely be due to low progesterone so that can't hurt but do you know if you are ovulating?

If your numbers are in a normal or low/normal range, you may need clomid or some other help to get you to ovulate....I would ask for a copy of your tests. You paid for them so you should be able to see the results! Knowledge is power.

[Rosie85]

I am getting positive opks and ovulation pain and then a vwry very very heavy period. I thought bleeding was scant to none if there wasn't ovulation so I must be right?

[nuthinbutpink]

Has your husband been tested too?

[nuthinbutpink]

No, that doesn't mean you ovulated. Excess bleeding is needing to change a pad more than once an hour or bleeding that lasts more than a week. Hormone imbalance, uterine fibroids or ploys are all potential causes.

[Rosie85]

ope he hasn't. We haven't talked about having him tested. I got pregnant three times and miscarried so I think she assumes its the progesterone. If it doesn't work Then we will do more testing...I would think anyway.

I am guessing they wont do extensive testing until ive tried for 6 plus months without pregnancy.

[carmella_marie]

I'd also ask to see your thyroid numbers. My TSH alwas came back as normal (standard test) but they tested my free t3 and t4 and it was dangerously low. I got on Meds and so many of my symptoms went away: irregular periods, fatigue, low sex drive, vaginal dryness, mood swings, sleep disturbances, cholesterol levels etc.

[3girl]

Good luck Rosie! I too had very low progestetone. Femara and progestetone pills helped me conceive.

[kitkat18]

Good luck honey, I have followed your journey and its been an emotional one, I wish you all the best for the future and most of all a healthy baby! I agree with nothin deft. Get a second opinion , good luck Xx
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[yogi&booboo]

Good Luck Rosie!
I hope you get your sticky bean soon!

[Tiffani3]

Good luck Rosie will be here cheering you on :) xx

[MyByC]

Hugs Rosie! My thoughts are with you! Good luck!

[PrimalMamma]

Oh Rosie I'm glad I saw this thread I was wondering about you. Best of luck on what sounds like it might be a challenging journey. Xx

[Rosie85]

Thanks ladies!!! I will be sure to keep you all updated!

[nuthinbutpink]

No testing on the 12 week loss? For chromosome abnormality?

[atomic sagebrush]

Rosie, I just want to reassure you that your prog levels NOW say nothing about what they were when you were pregnant. I SO understand the desire to seek out an easy to comprehend cause but the data indicates that a healthy pregnancy makes all the progesterone it needs to sustain itself (and certainly does so at 12 weeks). Of course use the progesterone if it gives you peace of mind to do so and wish you the very best of luck but I do just want you to continue to be proactive with your doctors in case there is more going on here. I am really really concerned that any doctor chalks up hormonal symptoms in a 29 year old to being menopausal, without a full workup. IF you are menopausal, progesterone is going to do NOTHING to help you get and stay pregnant because if the eggs are not good (which is by far the most likely cause of losses in "menopausal" women, using quotes because I do not think this is you) then you're going to be sustaining pregnancies that have no chance of working out and you might need some more aggressive treatments like DHEA to improve egg quality (DO NOT take DHEA without a doctor testing your levels).

[atomic sagebrush]

The doc said this stage can take up to 10 years but my fertility is declining greatly. They ran other tests and said they were low range of normal. So they are all dropping. I don't know....seems silly to me but I just listen to what they say.

This may be caused by swaying and we can fix it. I am really worried we are getting off on the wrong track here.

[atomic sagebrush]

I say this with love- take ownership of this and be your OWN ADVOCATE! You NEED TO KNOW YOUR NUMBERS!! If your numbers are in a normal range, you need to know all of your options! Is IVF a fit? IUI? Why menopause?? Making assumptions is dangerous and stupid on your doctor's part. Get a second opinion but please be your own advocate. Educate yourself! I am not sure what else you have tried yet(clomid, injectibles, etc) but there are lots of options and low progesterone does NOT equal menopause!

:agree: totally and I see it time after time after time even in women going to the most prestigious medical institutions around the world. They show up with any weird hormone reading and are told "you're in perimenopause". But Perimenopause can go on for 15-20 years! IT's a catchall word docs use whenever they don;t know what is going on.

One of my Custom Sway clients went in for a hormone test (sounds very similar to what you've had done) and was told she hadn't ovulated, wasn't going to ovulate, and was in "perimenopause". They told her, only chance of conception is IVF with donor eggs. She got BFP 5 days later. And this was at NYU Medical Center, one of the best fertility centers in the country. These tests aren't magic and they are WIDELY open to interpretation and "low normal" readings are STILL NORMAL. HOrmones go up and down and can change drastically by the month. Even things like FSH are not set in stone and we can do tons of stuff to fix it.

[atomic sagebrush]

I will definitely find out what they are. It was just the nurse on the phone and she doesn't know what they all mean I am sure....she is new to obgyn and just started. I will be getting a second opinion if I don't get pregnant next month. I see the doc again in a few weeks and hopefully she can go over it better and run some more tests. I dont really care if I have menopause early as long as I get one last babe. My grandma was 42...my mom was 37 and all 3 of my aunts were around 40 as well for last menses so it would be no surprise if it happens to me. The doc said family history doesn't always doom you for the same fate though so maybe there is hope or a different reason my hormones are all wacky.

THEre is a HUGE difference betwen 29 and 42/37/40.

[atomic sagebrush]

No, that doesn't mean you ovulated. Excess bleeding is needing to change a pad more than once an hour or bleeding that lasts more than a week. Hormone imbalance, uterine fibroids or ploys are all potential causes.

I do think you're ovulating BUT the heavier than normal periods may have nothing to do with hormones. If you have a fibroid or polyp that may be causing excess bleeding with AF. Excess bleeding with hormones often comes from very high estrogen, not low normal.

[atomic sagebrush]

No testing on the 12 week loss? For chromosome abnormality?

:agree: this times 1 million. low prog may cause a chemical or 5 week loss. For a baby to have hung on till 12 weeks and then gone is very very very unlikely to be progesterone related. I am just really worried we are getting off on the wrong track here.

[Linzshine32]

Best of luck rosie!!

[essnce629]

Good luck Rosie! I definitely think you should start Atomic's fertility diet asap along with the supps she recommends to help improve egg quality like zinc and iron (especially with your heavy periods). Since this is all new to you since swaying I definitely think dietary changes could get your hormone levels back to normal. Increasing fat definitely helps in that regard and just eating full fat dairy has shown to increase fertility in several studies. I'd start simple and go from there.

[Boysway]

Wishing you the best of luck Rosie. Thank you for your update as well.

[hotdogz&boyz]

Hugs to you Rosie! I hope that you get more answers with some further testing. We had fertility testing years ago after we had trouble keeping our second pregnancy, it is certainly a rough road and can be very confusing at times. But, much like ours, I hope your journey has a happy, healthy baby at the end of it :)

[Rosie85]

So do you think I should not take the progesterone then?? I started on a bunch of vitamins and such and I have been eating a full fat diet again....so pretty much swaying boy. I just don't know what to think now....are all of these issues caused by my swaying too hard? The fetal tissue came back as normal from my 12 week.

[nuthinbutpink]

Take the progesterone! Eat! I wouldn't mess with swaying at this point. You need 100% health.

[CattyPad]

Good luck Rosie :cheerteam:

[Rosie85]

I really hate myself for doing this to my body. I knew i was going too hard. I really hope i can turn it all around.

So the doc put me on vit d and c and progesterone. They said my iron is fine...in fact it is high unbelievably. What else should i take?? I also do my folic acid of course.

I am hoping one attempt will sway for me...haha.

[essnce629]

Did you up your folic acid to 2000 a day? That's what Atomic recommends after a miscarriage. I usually do 2000-2400 a day (split up throughout the day).

[Minimelton0173]

Good luck Rosie. I hope it all works out for you. Don't be too hard on yourself xxx

[Rosie85]

I have been doing 2000 for folic acid.

I just find it weird i went from getting pregnant on the first try 6 times and then last month...nothing. i feel like it is a sign something is very wrong.

[Adia]

I am a huge advocate of a second opinion...but in your case Rosie, I really think you need to get at least 1 or even 2 more professional opinions. I realize that may not be totally doable with insurance, cost, etc, but I think it is critical.

I have no advice just heartache for you as it has taken me 2 years to get a BFP and 2 miscarriages, & I am as nervous as hell that this bean won't stick...but I do know that until I got a doctor that took a totally different approach than my OBGYN and the infertility doctor, I couldn't get pregnant, and now I am even with my wacky hormone issues.

You are young and I think regardless of family history we live in a day and age where the right approach will get you one last baby.

My DH got tested as well, even though I knew he was fine, just to mark that off the list.
Praying for you to get some answers.

[Rosie85]

Thank you so much adia. I am sorry for what you have gone through. ..so rough. I am praying this is your sticky bean...you deserve it!

I will try a few months of the suppleme ts and eating healthy and if im not pregnant by then i will be going back for another bunch of testing and a second opinion. The doc never doomed me to menopause but just said it could be that...so im not sure why she said it or what she means by it.

Gosh being lady is so much fun...insert sarcasm here please. Haha

[hotdogz&boyz]

I have been told, by several doctors, that progesterone is not, in any way, dangerous to take or harmful even if your progesterone is completely normal during pregnancy. According to my doc this time, he said that it is "like a drop in the ocean" in regards to its dose. He said that IF progesterone is a problem, it may help a woman begin to manufacture her own (aka: send the signs that pregnancy has occurred and spur the corpus luteuim to produce more and more progesterone). But he said it won't hurt the fetus if progesterone is not needed and aside from a few side effects for mom (potentially delaying a period if pregnancy is not achieved, potential for greater weight gain or water retention in early pregnancy), it is harmless. Often I know that doctors use it "in case" it is a problem, simply because it's not harmful. So from what I know, taking it is perfectly fine. I have taken it before conception twice (with DD and with this pregnancy) and after conception once (with DS2). I wouldn't stress yourself over that. I'd try what the doc suggests, since none of it is harmful for baby. If things don't happen, you can get another opinion :)

[Rosie85]

Thanks hotdogz. I feel a lot better about it now. Maybe it will even sway pink?? Ha

[Grace]

Wow Rosie, never a dull moment hah? Hope you get a BFP in no time! And it would be the girl you long for much. Good luck xoxo

[Rosie85]

Thanks grace! And nope....life is never dull anymore. Even my super predictable fertility wanted to spice things up. Lol

[Rosie85]

Whoa....just got my labs in the mail. They actually didnt run very many and the nurse who called to talk to me is on some crazy drugs or something. She got everything all wrong. Thank goodness.....

My labs were all done at cd 11

Lh was 6.6
Prolactin is 15...a bit high
Fsh...and this is where she told me mine was bad. Liar. It is a 4.6....that is a great number isnt it?!?! Ugh
Progesterone .2. This one is on the very low range of normal which is why they gave me supps.
Estradiol is 135. Not sure if that is good number or not.

My tsh was 1.7
Hemoglobin a 15
Vitamin d was 24

[Mamato3?]

Rosie I'm so glad that you got the results and they are ok.
That nurse sucks though. So stupid to put you through all these...
The nurses/secretaries here never give results by phone, even if you beg them (well only if you are their relative or something, they do) and the reason is that a DOCTOR must inform you based on their knowledge and overall estimation of the combined results.
Anyway I am really glad that in your case the results are better than what you were told by phone!!!

[sweetdream]

Vit D is very low.
Do you know your b12?

Glad everything is well further.

[Grace]

Sound like good news to me!

[Rosie85]

I do not know my vitamin b 12. I would assume it is low though. Ha.

I am indeed happy the nurse just sucked. She is new. I will be telling the doc what happened.

[maidentomother]

I personally think you've just had a string of bad luck and are by no means perimenopausal. I really agree with NBP and atomic's posts, too.

I'm a bit confused about your 12w loss; they said there was no genetic/chromosomal issue? I don't believe low P causes miscarriages, but rather weak O/not so great eggs don't produce enough P. I don't believe pink swaying for months or even a a couple years will harm egg quality, either. I only hope your dr will have some more useful answers.

[Rosie85]

Maiden yeah i really don't get it. I guess I'm just worried that the egg isnt implanting and staying anymore. I know the egg is fertilizing and trying to implant but it doesn't. How can i have 4 bad eggs in a row?? I am hoping the vitamins and progesterone are all i need. All i know is that this baby is a ton of work already...haha

[hotdogz&boyz]

Out of curiosity, have they run any tests in the regards to immune disorders? It's not impossible to have healthy children and still have an immune disorder that pops up after the fact. I had one healthy pregnancy and four losses following it (basically in a row) and found out I have a blood clotting disorder along the lupus spectrum (it's not lupus, just related) and need to take blood thinners to maintain a pregnancy. I know with clotting issues and immune issues, the pregnancy failure doesn't always happen at a prescribed time, meaning there are women who have stillbirth full-term babies who pass from clotting disorders and women who have 5 week losses from the same clotting disorder. I know a woman who had three healthy babies before having a still born son and a second tri miscarriage and was found to have an immune disorder. I'd be interested to know if they have tested you for that. I had a "chromosomally healthy" loss at 10 weeks, a loss at 6 weeks, and two early losses before they ran testing for me and once I started blood thinners and progesterone, I had two healthy pregnancies, a chemical, and so far another healthy pregnancy. The key for me was those shots. So, if they haven't run those tests, I'd ask for them. I was told it was "unlikely" that was my problem but that they were going to test for it anyway...and look where it ended up! It's pretty simple blood tests. You get one on CD3 and then if that showed elevated levels, you repeat the test 2 months later and if that shows the same, you have the disorder. You have to do it twice because if your body is battling a virus, it can give positive results without having the disorder. But since its uncommon to have an underlying virus twice and not know about it, if the second test comes back positive, you are diagnosed. Just throwing that out there (Not that you need more thrown at you!)

[essnce629]

I'd ask for a full thyroid panel as well, not just TSH. The full panel is TSH, Free T4, Free T3, Reverse T3, and Thyroid Antibodies. Being hypothyroid increases your chance of miscarriage in the first trimester up to almost 70%.

I'm going to ask to get tested next week after I talk to my doctor on Monday. My mom is hypothyroid and so was my great-grandma. Also, my TSH was high at 2.6 two years ago but was never brought up by my doctor (just checked my paperwork today). Last year my number was 1.3 which seems more normal. I'm wondering if the LE diet can worsen/activate hypothyroidism? I know eating paleo is supposed to help and that's how I was eating before swaying. All I know is that since starting LE diet I've gotten progressively more tired (can sleep 12 hours and still wake up exhausted), had some joint pain, am always freezing, and now in the past few days my basal body temp has been soooo low (96.7 and 96.8), which are all signs of hypothyroidism. And then there's my miscarriage at almost 7 weeks that is also common with hypothyroidism.

It's just a blood test and can't hurt getting more info.

Lots of good info here (make sure you read all 5 parts)
Have You Suffered a Miscarriage? Your Thyroid Could Be to Blame (http://hypothyroidmom.com/have-you-suffered-a-miscarriage-your-thyroid-could-be-to-blame/)

[atomic sagebrush]

So do you think I should not take the progesterone then?? I started on a bunch of vitamins and such and I have been eating a full fat diet again....so pretty much swaying boy. I just don't know what to think now....are all of these issues caused by my swaying too hard? The fetal tissue came back as normal from my 12 week.

I think it is up to you but I just don't want you counting on it to do anything, because the studies show it doesn't. My concern is NOT that you're taking the progesterone, it's that you aren't getting proactive care from your doctors who are telling a 29 year old she's premenopausal, if that makes any sense.

[atomic sagebrush]

I really hate myself for doing this to my body. I knew i was going too hard. I really hope i can turn it all around.

So the doc put me on vit d and c and progesterone. They said my iron is fine...in fact it is high unbelievably. What else should i take?? I also do my folic acid of course.

I am hoping one attempt will sway for me...haha.

Hold the phone, are they investigating why your iron is high???

I am a little hesitant to have you start taking additional iron (such as in the form of prenatal) if your body is saving up iron for some reason. There are diseases that can cause you to hang onto iron (super rare) and they need to be ruled out before you take any more supplements.

[atomic sagebrush]

I have been doing 2000 for folic acid.

I just find it weird i went from getting pregnant on the first try 6 times and then last month...nothing. i feel like it is a sign something is very wrong.

It's the exception, not the rule to get pregnant on the first try. I know it's hard to wrap your head around it if you've always got pg easily but it certainly isn't the norm.

[atomic sagebrush]

Out of curiosity, have they run any tests in the regards to immune disorders? It's not impossible to have healthy children and still have an immune disorder that pops up after the fact. I had one healthy pregnancy and four losses following it (basically in a row) and found out I have a blood clotting disorder along the lupus spectrum (it's not lupus, just related) and need to take blood thinners to maintain a pregnancy. I know with clotting issues and immune issues, the pregnancy failure doesn't always happen at a prescribed time, meaning there are women who have stillbirth full-term babies who pass from clotting disorders and women who have 5 week losses from the same clotting disorder. I know a woman who had three healthy babies before having a still born son and a second tri miscarriage and was found to have an immune disorder. I'd be interested to know if they have tested you for that. I had a "chromosomally healthy" loss at 10 weeks, a loss at 6 weeks, and two early losses before they ran testing for me and once I started blood thinners and progesterone, I had two healthy pregnancies, a chemical, and so far another healthy pregnancy. The key for me was those shots. So, if they haven't run those tests, I'd ask for them. I was told it was "unlikely" that was my problem but that they were going to test for it anyway...and look where it ended up! It's pretty simple blood tests. You get one on CD3 and then if that showed elevated levels, you repeat the test 2 months later and if that shows the same, you have the disorder. You have to do it twice because if your body is battling a virus, it can give positive results without having the disorder. But since its uncommon to have an underlying virus twice and not know about it, if the second test comes back positive, you are diagnosed. Just throwing that out there (Not that you need more thrown at you!)

YES exactly this and hence my concern throwing prog supps and a diagnosis of "perimenopause". There are dozens of things that are treatable that this could be and I feel like this is a Band-Aid approach that will not help.

[atomic sagebrush]

I'd ask for a full thyroid panel as well, not just TSH. The full panel is TSH, Free T4, Free T3, Reverse T3, and Thyroid Antibodies. Being hypothyroid increases your chance of miscarriage in the first trimester up to almost 70%.

I'm going to ask to get tested next week after I talk to my doctor on Monday. My mom is hypothyroid and so was my great-grandma. Also, my TSH was high at 2.6 two years ago but was never brought up by my doctor (just checked my paperwork today). Last year my number was 1.3 which seems more normal. I'm wondering if the LE diet can worsen/activate hypothyroidism? I know eating paleo is supposed to help and that's how I was eating before swaying. All I know is that since starting LE diet I've gotten progressively more tired (can sleep 12 hours and still wake up exhausted), had some joint pain, am always freezing, and now in the past few days my basal body temp has been soooo low (96.7 and 96.8), which are all signs of hypothyroidism. And then there's my miscarriage at almost 7 weeks that is also common with hypothyroidism.

It's just a blood test and can't hurt getting more info.

Lots of good info here (make sure you read all 5 parts)
Have You Suffered a Miscarriage? Your Thyroid Could Be to Blame (http://hypothyroidmom.com/have-you-suffered-a-miscarriage-your-thyroid-could-be-to-blame/)

:agree: and this is the #1 reason I see losses in 12-14 week range. Even with "normal" readings some people have gone on to have healthy pg after being treated.

[atomic sagebrush]

I have been told, by several doctors, that progesterone is not, in any way, dangerous to take or harmful even if your progesterone is completely normal during pregnancy. According to my doc this time, he said that it is "like a drop in the ocean" in regards to its dose. He said that IF progesterone is a problem, it may help a woman begin to manufacture her own (aka: send the signs that pregnancy has occurred and spur the corpus luteuim to produce more and more progesterone). But he said it won't hurt the fetus if progesterone is not needed and aside from a few side effects for mom (potentially delaying a period if pregnancy is not achieved, potential for greater weight gain or water retention in early pregnancy), it is harmless. Often I know that doctors use it "in case" it is a problem, simply because it's not harmful. So from what I know, taking it is perfectly fine. I have taken it before conception twice (with DD and with this pregnancy) and after conception once (with DS2). I wouldn't stress yourself over that. I'd try what the doc suggests, since none of it is harmful for baby. If things don't happen, you can get another opinion :)

Yes and let me reiterate, my concern is not coming from her taking or using the prog supps if she wants to. My concern is that they are ignoring a potential problem for a "quick fix" solution that will not help.

[atomic sagebrush]

Did you up your folic acid to 2000 a day? That's what Atomic recommends after a miscarriage. I usually do 2000-2400 a day (split up throughout the day).

Also Rosie, we may want to switch over to folate. Some people have tolerated that better.

[atomic sagebrush]

Whoa....just got my labs in the mail. They actually didnt run very many and the nurse who called to talk to me is on some crazy drugs or something. She got everything all wrong. Thank goodness.....

My labs were all done at cd 11

Lh was 6.6
Prolactin is 15...a bit high
Fsh...and this is where she told me mine was bad. Liar. It is a 4.6....that is a great number isnt it?!?! Ugh
Progesterone .2. This one is on the very low range of normal which is why they gave me supps.
Estradiol is 135. Not sure if that is good number or not.

My tsh was 1.7
Hemoglobin a 15
Vitamin d was 24

hold the phone AGAIN - elevated prolactin needs to be investigated too. I agree not super far outside the norm, but then again your prog was not far outside of norm either.

I do not think that your prog. level on CD 11 is indicative of any problem whatsoever. Your prog. is supposed to be low at that point. Women just prior to ovulation can and do have prog. levels under 1. ANd the levels can go up and down over the course of the day. One isolated reading on the wrong day for testing it is really meaningless and I think the thyroid, the iron, and the prolactin levels need to be checked into.

[atomic sagebrush]

Maiden yeah i really don't get it. I guess I'm just worried that the egg isnt implanting and staying anymore. I know the egg is fertilizing and trying to implant but it doesn't. How can i have 4 bad eggs in a row?? I am hoping the vitamins and progesterone are all i need. All i know is that this baby is a ton of work already...haha

There are a zillion things that have to happen perfectly right in order for a pregnancy to occur. The question is not why it doesn't work out sometimes, but why it works out as often as it does.

It is totally possible to have a string of losses and then it just seems to magically work itself out. It's also possible that people have something going on (such as blood clotting issues or thyroid) that can be easily treated.

My fear is that when there are some unexplained happenings, people panic and want to start doing stuff (understandable) but you have to do the RIGHT things. The impulse is to start taking this, that, or the other thing and if it was something that can work itself out, you can actually PREVENT your body from fixing the problem when you start throwing things at it (I would def. have you take the Vit D, though, that won't hurt a thing and may help.) The other thing to avoid is to basically do what your doctors seem to be doing and ignoring the elephant in the room while doing something that doesn't even help, yk??

[essnce629]

Hypothyroidism can cause an increase in prolactin levels as well.

[sweetdream]

Vit b12 deficiëntie have simular symptoms as thyroid.
I would at least take vit D and check b12 lvls. But that can be tricky cause you take high dosage folic acid wich can elevate b12 bloodlvls artificially.

Vit b12 and vit d deficiëntie are both upping risk of not getting pg too.
I Know lots of ppl that after taking b12 they got pg.

[Rosie85]

Thanks ladies. Im scared to ask the doctor about stuff when everything is in normal levels...they aren't super willing to listen. I don't even know if i want to take the progesterone at all anymore. I am getting frustrated with all these numbers and such. Maybe i just shouldn't have another baby....i just get a bad feeling about it all.

[True Blue]

Rosie you are just getting overwhelmed, take a step back and clear your mind a little :) you can do this - it's maybe not half as bad as you're feeling right now.

[sweetdream]

I think if you want another baby or not you need to get your body straight.

Your vit D isn't normal and b12 isn't checked.
Your body needs it. Get a second opinion

[The Anchor]

Good luck Rosie...I hope everything gets sorted out :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes I"m sorry I'm not trying to overwhelm you, I just am not liking the level of medical care you're getting here and don't want you to lose more time on misdiagnosis. Sorry if I tossed out too much info all at once. (((hugs)))