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Hitmebabyonemoretime
November 28th, 2014, 10:57 PM
Help me out here - I am sure I read something that keeps the faith alive that if a Dh has made 6 baby boys and no girls that it's still possible to have a little girl. Gf and I are having a discussion.
I know that there must be hope, and a theory supporting all the changes us mamas make to get a girl....


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pinkin2011
November 28th, 2014, 11:04 PM
I know that men do make xy and xx but I recently did ivf and my gender spilt was only 1xx and 9 xy and the ivf dr said its possible my husband does make more xy... my ivf failed and now I sm moving on to a sway tho I dont have much confidence at ALL

Hitmebabyonemoretime
November 28th, 2014, 11:16 PM
Oh man.... I wish we could all have our men checked... Just knowing...


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pinkin2011
November 28th, 2014, 11:22 PM
Well I have not seen many ivf ladies have the gender spilt mine had.... some ladies have 3 ir 4 boys and do ivf and end up with an even gender split im just unlucky in that respect I guess

SamS_TTCPink
November 28th, 2014, 11:53 PM
It is still possible. After our six boys with swaying we did conceive a girl (and another boy). Although we have just found out we have lost her, we still had her for that short time so it is indeed possible. x

Hitmebabyonemoretime
November 28th, 2014, 11:57 PM
It is still possible. After our six boys with swaying we did conceive a girl (and another boy). Although we have just found out we have lost her, we still had her for that short time so it is indeed possible. x

I saw your post - I'm so incredibly sorry mama :( do you have a name for her?


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nuthinbutpink
November 29th, 2014, 12:05 AM
Men make sperm 50/50. Most of swaying involves the mother- not all but most.

IVF is 100% unnatural so I wouldn't compare those results to natural conception.

1+2+3boys
November 29th, 2014, 12:40 AM
My Dp has 6 sons to 3 different Women. I wonder if he is just more attracted to Women who are more likely to have sons (and he loves having them too!) I totally believe it is possible and really believe in swaying. However since the next will be our last I do not want to take any chances so HT it is. I wish I could try swaying and am a bit bummed. I would if we had two boys instead of three but 4 kids is my absolute limit

SamS_TTCPink
November 29th, 2014, 04:35 AM
I saw your post - I'm so incredibly sorry mama :( do you have a name for her?


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Thank you. Yes, her name is Shaylah Anne. :broken:

Kittybear
November 29th, 2014, 05:01 AM
As NBP said, ALL men CAN make girls! :) 50/50 split in sperm.

Women have XX chromosomes. Men have XY chromosomes. Sex cells (eggs in women and sperm in men) have half the number of chromosomes of a normal human cell so that when they come together the resulting baby has the correct number again.

Essentially all eggs are 'female' (x chromosome) whereas sperm is 50% 'female' (x chromosome) and 50% 'male' (Y chromosome); this is because the XY cells from the man splits (2 cells from 1, each containing half the genetic material of the original copy) by a special process called meiosis which is how sex cells (sperm in men, eggs in women) form.

Therefore all men are capable of fathering girls as Gender is down to the sperm that fertilises the egg; if an 'x' gets there first you get a girl (xx chromosomes) and if a 'y' gets there first the resulting embryo will be male (XY chromosomes). Therefore by rules of averages you have a 50% chance of having a girl (or boy) with each pregnancy.

That is the good news. HOWEVER as with all biological processes it is not quite as cut and dried as all that and there could be other factors at work; as PP mentioned, including the women's internal environment and condition (which we try to chAnge by swaying), it could be possible (for unknown reasons) that the man's Y sperm are just a little bit 'better' than the X he produces (?) ( eg hardier/ faster/ stronger etc - something like this *could* be at work in pinkin's case with her HT gender split as the lab techs choose the 'best looking' sperm from the mix without knowing whether it is Y or X, however having sain that also bear in mind that they are picking maybe 15 from thousands of possible so that in itself is bound to scew the 'natural' gender split) and remember that the least, and probably most important factor, is good old 'lady luck' and no one can control her! ;) my beautiful ds2 proves that ;)

Good luck Hun x

essnce629
November 29th, 2014, 06:55 AM
Thank you. Yes, her name is Shaylah Anne. :broken:

Beautiful name Mum. (((HUGS))) to little miss Shaylah Anne. Always in your heart and never forgotten.

atomic sagebrush
November 29th, 2014, 01:03 PM
NO, it is not possible. Men are made of XY cells that divide in half to make 50-50 X and Y sperm. Essay here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/sperm-qualities/552-guess-what-men-make-50-50-x-y-sperm.html

atomic sagebrush
November 29th, 2014, 01:04 PM
Oh man.... I wish we could all have our men checked... Just knowing...


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HUGE SIGH.

I have seen hundreds of women taken advantage of by doctors who are very happy to take people's money to "test their husband's sperm" and it is always around about 50-50 every single time.

atomic sagebrush
November 29th, 2014, 01:08 PM
I know that men do make xy and xx but I recently did ivf and my gender spilt was only 1xx and 9 xy and the ivf dr said its possible my husband does make more xy... my ivf failed and now I sm moving on to a sway tho I dont have much confidence at ALL

Doctors sometimes say things with no basis in fact to make people feel better. There are a dozen theoretical reasons why a couple might have more XY than XX fert. eggs and I believe this was just idle speculation that the doctor him/herself does not believe. it is IMPOSSIBLE for XY cells to divide into anything other than half X and half Y. Now could there possibly be some difference in longetivity, vigor, swimming ability, etc etc etc yes, but it is NEVER EVER that a man "makes more X or Y sperm"

atomic sagebrush
November 29th, 2014, 01:13 PM
I know of people who have had 6-8 of one gender who then go onto have the other. Including my own greatgrandma who had 6 girls and then 2 boys.
If you look at the Duggars, that is really the best way to see it - they had something like 6 kids where it was pretty evenly mixed between B/G, then a long run of boys, then a long run of girls. any one of those runs was longer than most of us have had kids. IT is 100% NOT TRUE that her husband was making BG sperm, then B sperm, then G sperm. It doesn't even make any biological sense and nor is it supported by the facts.
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/swaying-studies-scientific-research/32383-defense-swaying-part-1-a.html
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/12340-understanding-trivers-willard-hypothesis.html

Hitmebabyonemoretime
November 30th, 2014, 09:44 PM
I know of people who have had 6-8 of one gender who then go onto have the other. Including my own greatgrandma who had 6 girls and then 2 boys.
If you look at the Duggars, that is really the best way to see it - they had something like 6 kids where it was pretty evenly mixed between B/G, then a long run of boys, then a long run of girls. any one of those runs was longer than most of us have had kids. IT is 100% NOT TRUE that her husband was making BG sperm, then B sperm, then G sperm. It doesn't even make any biological sense and nor is it supported by the facts.
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/swaying-studies-scientific-research/32383-defense-swaying-part-1-a.html
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/12340-understanding-trivers-willard-hypothesis.html

I like the duggar analogy so much... It's not the first time I've heard you use it; and I just wish I had time to "duggar it out"!! :)


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atomic sagebrush
December 1st, 2014, 01:10 PM
;) just promise you won't give a moneygrubber $$ to test your husband's sperm! there are so many doctors out there who will take thousands of dollars to do that knowing all along it's a scam! Jerks. :/

The Anchor
December 2nd, 2014, 02:56 PM
NO, it is not possible. Men are made of XY cells that divide in half to make 50-50 X and Y sperm. Essay here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/sperm-qualities/552-guess-what-men-make-50-50-x-y-sperm.html

Wow I thought I had read every article on this site. I had no idea! Learn something (on this site) every day :)

atomic sagebrush
December 3rd, 2014, 11:49 AM
One of the downsides of the success of the site, is that I have less (NO) time to do writing which is my true passion! :) Hopefully now that the baby is getting bigger I'll be able to get back after it again.

Hitmebabyonemoretime
December 3rd, 2014, 07:12 PM
;) just promise you won't give a moneygrubber $$ to test your husband's sperm! there are so many doctors out there who will take thousands of dollars to do that knowing all along it's a scam! Jerks. :/

Deal :)


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Hitmebabyonemoretime
December 3rd, 2014, 07:14 PM
One of the downsides of the success of the site, is that I have less (NO) time to do writing which is my true passion! :) Hopefully now that the baby is getting bigger I'll be able to get back after it again.

I wanted to write when I grew up... I've switched to photography buy I adore writing :)


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