Advice please

[djmommy]

I am a bit confused as I got dotted crosshairs today on FF. In a way I can possibly understand why I have them because of temps but I really do not believe that I have ovulated. I was taking clomid cd 5-9. I have not had a positive opk, no o pains or any fertile cm. I started taking robitussin cd 12 to try to help with cm. I have been pretty dry the last 2 days. I don't know if I should still take the robitussin. Any advice would be super helpful. I still plan on bd at least every other day now still.

Thanks



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[maidentomother]

Hmm. It does look like you Oed, on CD12 in my opinion, but clomid can affect your temps. And as you know, it really dries up CM so that CM is particularly useless for determining O. Can you think of any reason your last 2 temps might be artificially high?

[The Anchor]

It looks to me like you've O'd. Clomid can make you O early but it does seem odd since you took it on the later days. Keep up with your bd plan and post temps tomorrow. GL!

[djmommy]

Thanks ladies. There is no reason my temps are higher. I have not had a positive opk and I ALWAYS do. Man, this is so frustrating. I guess I'll see what tomorrow brings.

[djmommy]

It seems like my temps are slowly rising and that I did O but really? Can you O without any felt symptoms on clomid? Of course last month I felt O pain and couldn't bd and I was so prepared this month but it wasn't expected so early!

[atomic sagebrush]

Clomid can really mess with temps, but I agree it does look like you ovulated. You were in with a good attempt anyway. My concern is that I kind of doubt there was enough time after taking Clomid 5-9 for your body to have popped out an egg that quick. I don't honestly believe this to be possible. Thus, I woudl def. have you continue BD.

Robitussin should be ok to continue if you want to. IT's supposed to be safe in early pg

[djmommy]

So you are saying that it looks like I ovulated but in reality I probably didn't because there wasn't enough time from when I stopped taking clomid??
I will keep bd anyway but I just want to cry! Another cycle gone!! UGH!! Feeling pretty hopeless and defeated!

[maidentomother]

Either -

A) Your body was set to O early on its own and so did so despite the Clomid - if you DID O, this is the likeliest explanation. Since you usually O early I think this is quite possible, and the only way that can be prevented is by taking the clomid earlier (as early as CDs1-5, I'd recommend) or at a higher dose (increased odds of multiples so may not be the best option unless you're okay with multiples/are being ultrasound monitored).

B) You haven't Oed yet and your temps are off.

I do think A is most likely but I don't see why you think the cycle is wasted? You got BDing in with perfect timing and good pink odds, so I think you have every reason to still be hopeful. Often when O comes earlier than expected it leads to pregnancy, I've noticed - and it has been true for me personally on several occasions! I have a theory that unexpectedly early O tends to mean strong O/particularly good egg quality and consider it lucky. Fx it is for you. Big hugs hun, I know it's been a long, long TTC journey and I totally understand your frustration/desperation, but I have a really good feeling about this cycle.

[djmommy]

Wow, thanks so much for replying maiden. I think I am/was bummed was because maybe I misread atomic's comment that if I did O early than it wasn't enough for pregnancy. I am really hoping and praying your good feeling is right! You made me feel a lot better!!

[atomic sagebrush]

I think it's darn unlikely that you stopped taking Clomid on CD 9 and then popped out an egg 2-3 days later. Is if possible, anything is possible, but it is ~to me~ less likely than option B above.

I agree that this cycle isn't wasted, please don't give up!

[atomic sagebrush]

Wow, thanks so much for replying maiden. I think I am/was bummed was because maybe I misread atomic's comment that if I did O early than it wasn't enough for pregnancy. I am really hoping and praying your good feeling is right! You made me feel a lot better!!

Yes you must have misread something becaue I do not feel that was a wasted month, not at all.

[djmommy]

Thanks atomic. I definitely misread your comment. I really do not believe I ovulated. I will keep bding and temping. I think I read that I popped out an egg way too early but after reading again I misread. It's just been a long tough journey. I am really hoping for a Christmas miracle.

[maidentomother]

I do think you should keep BDing every 3-4 days just in case, as it IS unusual to O so soon after the last clomid dose. I normally would agree with atomic but your history and the fact that your swaying makes me think otherwise.

If you did O on CD12 you can start testing soon! Do you plan to or will you wait for AF?

[djmommy]

Well my temp went down today, I woke earlier than usual but only by an hour and 15 min. FF took away my crosshairs. I am pretty sure I got a positive opk yesterday, only on First Response not wondfo but nonetheless.....hopefully temp goes up tomorrow and I can really start the TWW> I usually test early but am not going to this cycle. I get super sad when I see BFN's I would rather remain hopeful and not know! :)

[The Anchor]

Ahhhh...this must be it! GL!

[djmommy]

Thank you!! I am really hoping I finally O'd and caught a beautiful egg!!

[djmommy]

Seriously, my temps are so strange this cycle and I keep getting darkish lines on wondfo opks! Not positive but not light. I never really got a true positive on wondfo this cycle. Does that seem odd? I do every month. Could it be from clomid?
I am really hoping I ovulated.

[maidentomother]

Yep I've seen people fail to get positive OPKs on clomid even though they usually do otherwise.

[djmommy]

Do you think I ovulated? I am thinking cd 17?

[The Anchor]

:think: You know, this is an odd cycle!
I don't want to freak you out. Although I said above that it would highly unusual to ovulate 3 days after last clomid day. But I also don't think it's completely outside the realm of possibility. I am just going to play devil's advocate and say...that dark/positive OPKs can also indicate pregnancy. JUST SAYIN'!

[djmommy]

Oh Anchor, I would so LOVE for you to be right!!!!!!!!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Seriously, my temps are so strange this cycle and I keep getting darkish lines on wondfo opks! Not positive but not light. I never really got a true positive on wondfo this cycle. Does that seem odd? I do every month. Could it be from clomid?
I am really hoping I ovulated.

Yes, it can happen on Clomid. There is no normal on Clomid!!! :)