January 2WW

[True Blue]

XX yours looks fantastic eeeek FXFXFXFXF for you too!!!

Good luck :)

[MissyMc7]

Good luck girls xxxx can't wait to see some more bfp's this week!

[keepthefaith]

Good luck ladies!! September due date forum is waiting ........ X

[Mars]

12dpo and I'm tempted to test but won't. AF is due tomorrow I think...it's been a bit all over the show but the last few months my cycles have been 29-32 days. The last 2 months they were 29 and 30 days so that could mean today or tomorrow. Unfortunately I don't get any warning for when AF is coming so I just have to sit back and wait. As for symptoms, I felt like my boobs were tender the last couple days and I'm tired. I don't think I'm pregnant though.

[XXforhubby]

You are not out until AF shows! I know it is easier said than done, especially when you want to be pregnant.

FX for you Mars!!!

I am making myself wait....I think it is good for me 😉


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[katewantsagirl]

I stupidly took a test and bfn. Ofcourse! I've been spotting since 1dpo (when I THINK) I Od. I don't know if I actually didn't O because I still breastfeed day and night. Will try to night wean if I don't get bfp this month

[XXforhubby]

Oh darn! Hang in there Kate! My cycles were all wonky when I was nursing a lot. My cycles are better now that DS2 is older and nursing less. I had friends who conceived easily while nursing. I just haven't been that lucky!

FX for you!!!!


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[Mars]

Could it be early Kate? It's not over until AF arrives!

[Sunbuny]

Congrats to all you girls with the BFP 😄 awesome to hear. So happy for you xxx


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[keepthefaith]

Mars did you test?? GL!!

[Mars]

I will not test, I will not test, I will not test!!!! LOL it's killing me but I am determined to wait until AF is at least 10 days late. I have 2 tests left and I have had 2 cycles in the past which were 40 days long and I always kicked myself for testing early.

Ok so For those who have got BFP this month tell me, are you super tired already? Because the last 3 days (since 10dpo) I have been sooo tired. Even today (in Australia) I was ready for a sleep at 2pm and I could have easily gone to bed at 7:30pm when the boys did. That said I have been getting up early to go for a run which is a new thing for me so maybe its just my body getting used to this new routine.

[maidentomother]

Fx Mars! So will anyone be testing around Jan 18th?

[keepthefaith]

Tireness all consuming me at mo! Def a good sign!

[maidentomother]

I was exhausted yesterday but at 5DPO I doubt that means anything! For you it's deffo a great sign, KTF.

[djmommy]

Nice awesome rise Maiden!!! FX!

[sageviolet]

Wow, Mars, that's some impressive willpower!

FX for xx and maiden! Your charts look great! I had some acupuncture last summer, and it was good. I did it to keep my Lyme in check and prepare for ttc. It worked great for the Lyme, but no bfp yet.

I hope I o soon because dh will be traveling this week.

[XXforhubby]

Fx Mars! So will anyone be testing around Jan 18th?

I will be testing on the 17th at 16dpo!! I am waiting to make certain that AF will be nice and late. My temp was still up this morning after getting up with DS2 three times last night! My CM has not gone dry and is very creamy...a few other symptoms, but I am trying to stick to the facts- high temps and creamy CM....

Trying not to get too excited 😬😬😬


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[maidentomother]

XX, Huh, usually getting up raises temps artificially. Not that I'm not super hopeful for you, or that one temp means that much. I'm excited to be testing almost together! I will be at most 11DPO on the 18th. Maaaaybe I'll test a day earlier but I'm going to try really hard to test absolutely no earlier than 10DPO. It just seems so wasteful and so much drama.

Sage, thanks! Based on past charts it seems most likely you will O today. Fx you see a big temp spike tomorrow.

Today's temp shocked me. I am very curious to see tomorrow's, will it stay high? Still no symptoms other than some fatigue which could just be my meds or the normal effect of progesterone during the LP, especially if it's higher than usual as today's temp suggests is possible.

[XXforhubby]

XX, Huh, usually getting up raises temps artificially. Not that I'm not super hopeful for you, or that one temp means that much. I'm excited to be testing almost together! I will be at most 11DPO on the 18th. Maaaaybe I'll test a day earlier but I'm going to tty really hard to test absolutely no earlier than 10DPO. It just seems so wasteful and so much drama.

Sage, thanks! Based on past charts it seems most likely you will O today. Fx you see a big temp spike tomorrow.

Today's temp shocked me. I am very curious to see tomorrow's, will it stay high? Still no symptoms other than some fatigue which could just be my meds or the normal effect of progesterone during the LP, especially if it's higher than usual as today's temp suggests is possible.

For some reason, when I nurse in the middle of the night, my temp is lower in the morning. It has been that way for some reason. That is why I was surprised it was still high this morning when I woke.


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[XXforhubby]

Plus I got the same temp both times I took it after a 3 hour stretch. I still have no signs of AF and I am 11dpo. I usually have spotting by now. I guess I still could later, but I am trying to stay positive!


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[Dutchgirl]

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What do you girls think??

[XXforhubby]

TMI- I just had a run of EWCM! I had that before I tested positive with both DSs....please keep me grounded! AF could still be around the corner....


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[XXforhubby]

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What do you girls think??

I see a line!! Yay! Congrats! Woo Hoo!!!!!!


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[keepthefaith]

I see a line too eek congrats!!

[maidentomother]

XX, You know your body! :) I find that quite interesting and wonder how nursing/the related hormones might affect your temp. Remind me again if you temp O or V? Is EWCM at this point in your LP a good or a bad sign for you typically?

I think everything sounds VERY promising. I really want you to prove that high FSH wrong...or at least prove you can still get pregnant with a healthy, preferably female baby. Less than a week to go now to test...starting to feel a bit antsy for both of us!

Dutchgirl, that's definitely a BFP, yay! Big congrats! :) :) :) How many DPO are you? Oh and where exactly do you live? Where I live in NW Germany, I am not far from the NL border.

[Dutchgirl]

Thank you Thank you!!

It's a thin line but i'm 3 days before AF and my urine was not so concentraded.
Can't believe it!

[XXforhubby]

XX, You know your body! :) I find that quite interesting and wonder how nursing/the related hormones might affect your temp. Remind me again if you temp O or V? Is EWCM at this point in your LP a good or a bad sign for you typically?

I think everything sounds VERY promising. I really want you to prove that high FSH wrong...or at least prove you can still get pregnant with a healthy, preferably female baby. Less than a week to go now to test...starting to feel a bit antsy for both of us!

Dutchgirl, that's definitely a BFP, yay! Big congrats! :) :) :) How many DPO are you? Oh and where exactly do you live? Where I live in NW Germany, I am not far from the NL border.

I temp O, because I have to get to DS2 quickly if he wakes in the middle of the night. I am always dry at this point in my cycle. I am aware that AF could show up anyway, but I am starting to get excited! I have something to look forward to either way!


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[djmommy]

That looks pink to me!!! Wahoo! Congrats dutchgirl!!! Janurary is looking to be a great month!!

[djmommy]

FX crossed for you too XX!!!!

[essnce629]

WooHoo! Congrats Dutchgirl! Definitely a BFP!

Sounds promising XX! Can't wait for you to test! 11dpo is always my test day. Have never gotten a wrong result then, especially with a FRER.

[maidentomother]

XX, wow, high temps despite oral temping & EWCM (as the estrogen causing that fertile CM could be affecting your temp, too, such that it would be even lower if your P level weren't so high, possibly bc you are pregnant)...so exciting! Fx fx fx!

Dutchgirl, do you know your estimated due date based on when you think you Oed?

[Junie]

Congrats Dutchgirl! XX I am SO pumped for you :) :)

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[Blue-Blue-Pink?]

So exciting XX, will be stalking this thread!

I think I o'd today so I'm hoping to have my next o end of february and then I'll be ready for my first attempt

[MissyMc7]

Woo hoo! Congratulations Dutchgirl!!

[XXforhubby]

I may test tomorrow. My LP is usually 12-14 days and it has been under before but not longer unless I've been pregnant. That is why I am trying to hold out and test at 16dpo. I just don't want to know if it will be a chemical. I would rather believe I Oed later than I thought, or AF is heavier than usual. Plus I am trying not to symptom spot...but it is hard! 😬😬😬


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[Dutchgirl]

XX good luck in the morning! Hope you see a positive test!

Maiden, i live also near the German border, in the region Aachen-Dusseldorf. Do you live more north?
We could find each other on Facebook if you like?

I will buy some other tests tomorrow to be sure. I really hope it's a sticky one! I have a lots of pregnancy signs, but still cannot really believe it.

I forgot who asked (sorry) but i O'd on jan 1. My due date will be sept 24.

[True Blue]

Dutchgirl that looks like a BFP :) Yay!!

Maiden I'm stalking your chart :oops: looking good girl!!

Good Luck to all :luck:

[maidentomother]

True Blue, thanks for the support!

Dutchgirl, I am a 30 min drive South of Bonn, on the West side of the Rhine in a rural/farming area. I haven't been on FB much since my miscarriage in 2012, and I plan to avoid it until I am pregnant again (it is too hard seeing all the babies!). But I'd love to add you, as I really need more friends over here - I haven't made many bc of where I live and my health issues, plus I've only been living here since mid-2012. You can pm me your fb info or I can pm you if you prefer. Oh and I asked about your DD. I would be only 5-6 days behind. :)

Fx for you if you test tomorrow, XX!

[XXforhubby]

I am really tempted Maiden! I guess there is no harm and if it is negative it is not much different than AF just showing up. At least I'll get an advanced warning if I test 😉!

I have been nauseous for the past four days with today being the worst! It has lasted ALL day- the dizzy type too! It could just be nice progesterone production though, which I may have lacked in other cycles. If I don't get my BFP now, it is looking like I have an excellent chance in the upcoming months! I'm happy either way! Plus, I am intrigued by acupuncture and would like to give it a try.

I'll update if I test! I'll probably be a mess either way and will need some support 😊!


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[katewantsagirl]

Test test test! Virtual hand hold! Haha

[Mars]

Congrats Ducthgirl! If I get a BFP this month we would be due date buddies :)

Good Luck XX!!! Hope you get a BFP!!!!

As for me, I'm super moody so I think AF is nearly here. Next month is our last month trying. Then we are stopping :( I'm a believer in whats meant to be will be but we have been trying for over a year now and nothing where as when I fell pregnant with my boys I fell first month TTC. I think it could be the universe telling us something.

[bre_cooper11]

Hello Ladies,
So, I am now 13 DPO & still no AF. I got my first super faint pos yesterday afternoon!
These pictures are from today, FMU! Am I crazy, or do you see it too??!!
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[Mars]

I can see it!! Congrats!!!!! Wow what a great month this has been.
Argh now I want to test!

[XXforhubby]

Yay Bre!!!! This is awesome! Have a happy, healthy nine months 😊!


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[XXforhubby]

Congrats Ducthgirl! If I get a BFP this month we would be due date buddies :)

Good Luck XX!!! Hope you get a BFP!!!!

As for me, I'm super moody so I think AF is nearly here. Next month is our last month trying. Then we are stopping :( I'm a believer in whats meant to be will be but we have been trying for over a year now and nothing where as when I fell pregnant with my boys I fell first month TTC. I think it could be the universe telling us something.

Mars- My heart goes out to you! I can't imagine what you must feel. I hope this is your month and your struggle will be a distant memory! I am holding out hope for you! 😘


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[essnce629]

I see it Bre! Congrats!

[MissyMc7]

Yep definitely a line there congrats bree!

Oh mars I hope this is your month. I was getting really down early on in the tww as if it didn't happen this month we were going to have to stop trying until at least june due to family stuff and I was worried hubby was going to change his mind as he's very much the if it's meant to be type too. I felt so much that this was our last chance so much so that I was going to add in extra attempts before O to give it a better shot at bfp but due to Xmas craziness and ov happening Xmas day we only got 1 attempt in 3 days before o so I thought we were out, but it happened!! So I really hope it happens for you too!! I Wil have my fingers and toes crossed for you.

[MissyMc7]

Oh and my advice for anyone wanting to get a bfp stock up on something you won't be able to use/need whilst pregnant (you know like Murphys law, if your prepared you won't need it) Before my first I bought 6 months worth of sanitary products, boom bfp, had 3 kids before I needed to buy anymore!
This time it was alcohol, stocked up for Xmas and now have half a dozen bottles of my favorite wine and a bottle of Baileys sitting in the cupboard taunting me.

[Mars]

Thanks Missy, we only had one attempt 2 or 3 days before O so fingers crossed. My kids are being feral today so I'm feeling very drained and second guessing again if I really want a 3rd. Then I see a baby or think of my kids with a sibling and I get emotional :) I just don't want a huge gap between my kids, there s 2yrs between my boys and my youngest is going to be 3 soon and I just feel that if we keep going there could be a big gap and then they won't be as close.

[Mars]

Lol Missy I have the alcohol covered, got a good deal before xmas and am set for the next few months...hope your Murphys law is right ;)

[MissyMc7]

Oh I'm the same mars, every time the kids have acted up in the last few months hubby just looks at me and says "and you seriously want more?" But then I see how upset my daughter gets when yet another of her friends gets a sister and I knew I had to try one last time for her. I'm an only child and I desperately wanted a sister when I was growing up (my mum actually wanted 6 kids but life just didn't go that way for her). So she'll either get her wish or another chance for an awesome sister in law. Hubby was really worried about age gaps too. We had 19mths between 1 &2 which was hell! They were then 6 & 4.5 when #3 came along (3 days after his big sisters b day & over a month early!) And this time will be 9,7.5 &3 when this one joins us. I actually like the bigger gaps more. My daughter was an awesome help at 6yrs with my youngest so she will definitely be mummy #2 this time around at 9. My 7 year old is very introverted and enjoys his own company so he's not fussed either way and my youngest at 3 is at least semi independent and understands how to be helpful.

[Mars]

That's so nice Missy. I'm sure your kids are going love having another sibling. My oldest starts school this year. I think we at both getting on each other's nerves and just want it to start already!!

[bre_cooper11]

So my blood test was negative! :think: Maybe too soon?
Thought blood test showed positives sooner... Or it's a chemical?

[Mars]

Negative as in the HCG was too low? How many weeks would you be? Maybe go back in a weeks time and see if it's doubled.

[Dutchgirl]

Damn Bre....I don't know how it works with blood tests...Keep my fingers crossed for you!

Mars, i really do hope this is your month! It must be so frustrated TTC 1 year en still hving a BFN. Fx for you.
Having our due date together would be awsome! :fx:

Maiden i'll send you a PB :happy:
I totally understand you that you can't stand looking at baby pics.

Missy you really made me laugh about your doubs of havinf another baby. I feel exactly the same when my boys are fighting or yelling like crazy. I allways told everyone that i don't want to have more than 2 kids because i have only 2 hands to grab them when they try to run away or don't want to walk on :bigsmile:

My boys asked me a couple of days ago if i didn't want to have a baby girl. Or a baby boy, that was ok too. I told them that then they must help me with diapers and stuff and the oldest one was thrilled! So cute :heart: He just turned 8 so he will be a big help i guess.

[Mars]

Got a bit of cramping going on on my right side. It's not AF painful just enough to notice. Urgh I am not testing, I am not testing!!!

[MissyMc7]

Bree did they tell you the level or did they just do a qualative yes/no type test? If they just did the yes/no type it will say no unless the level is over 25 but sensitive hpt will pick up levels at 10 so if your levels are between 10-25 that type of blood test will say no but you are pg. If they did a quantative test then it will give them the exact number. So if it shows your number is 20 then they know something is going on but not 'technically' enough to say definitely pregnant yet but in 2 days time it should double and be at least 40. Did any of that make sense? Are they going to repeat the test if still no AF? If you have a repeat test definitely ask for the quantative test!
Fingers crossed for you that you are just in that 10-25 stage xxxxx

[MissyMc7]

Dutchgirl yep totally thought I was done at two for awhile (and noone could understand why we would want more when we had one of each gender) but tried for a sister for my daughter and got ds 2. Definitely thought I was done then but he is so amazing and makes me want more lol. I've asked my daughter soo many times if she would want us to have another baby even if it turns out to be a boy, she still says yes but gets annoyed that I keep saying it could be a boy. We are going to shock a lot of people when we announce this pregnancy and even more so when they find out it was planned!

[Dutchgirl]

Here as well! Nobody expect us to have another one! The boys are 8 and nearly 6.

I'm a bit scared of reactions of people like, o you're going to be so busy, how will you cope? (I work for a boss and have my onw comagny).
And i'm also a bit afraid of people who will say that this time it must be a girl. Or look at me with pity when it will be a boy again.
People in the Netherlands can be very direct unfortunately...

[Mars]

I hate those comments :( Everyone keeps telling me to try for a girl or am I going to have another, you know a girl? Then I have some friends who keep saying "why do you want another, don't have anymore. Just stick with two".

[maidentomother]

Bre, those tests are definitely BFPs and I hope new bloodwork proves it soon.

Mars, I don't even have children and I'm stressing about age gaps, as I'm already too old to have as many children as I wanted and I want BF for 3 years for each child but what if BFing prevents me from Oing...argh! My brother is 7 years younger and it's an awful age gap, with just us two. Anyway...I really hope this is your month! And you are so thoughtful to do this for your daughter. I wish my mum had!

Dutch & Missy, your kids sound wonderful. I love hearing about people's children.

Dutch, people are very direct here in Germany, too.

[keepthefaith]

Im dreading telling people as know all will get "oh you will be hoping for a girl" and yes this maybe true but it belittles the idea of a boy and makes it out like a consolation prize! Also had the "twos enough" from my mother so goodness knows how she will take my news! At end of day its my life so tough!! Still annoying though!

[sageviolet]

Congrats, Dutchgirl and Bre!!!

Mars, *hugs*. It happened easy for us the first two times, too, even though I was sick with Lyme disease. I don't know how you've kept up trying so long. Do you think age is a factor or maybe the girl sway has your health down? I hear you on the age gap, too, but since I only have one I'll take a big gap rather than nothing. What can we do? *sigh* Missy, I'm also an only child myself. Any tips on the sibling experience?

Ugh, what do you do with toddlers at night? She's so aware of being wet now, I'm up a couple of times some nights to change her. My temp didn't rise much today (maybe off since I was up, it sometimes goes lower from that), but my chest is a little sore, so o happened, right? Hope it's up more tomorrow and beyond!

[tarasue]

Bre- I had my bloods taken in November because my dr. was starting me on provera. My hcg level was 2 so they told me I wasn't pregnant. I started the provera and two days later got a positive ic preg test. Called the dr., scared stupid at that point because I had taken two of the provera pills already, and they had me come in for another test. It was 25 two days later.... How many dpo are you again? Maybe take another test at home tomorrow if it's still positive have your bloods done again! Fingers crossed for you!! Good luck darlin'!

[XXforhubby]

I am 12dpo and still no sign of AF! My temp is still high, and CM is very creamy still. I have decided to wait to test. I get cramps off and on, and I don't remember if I had this with the boys. They are not like AF cramps, but they make me hesitant to test. I usually have a 12 day LP so the longer I wait to test, I can be sure of a BFP. According to my chart, I may have had an implantation dip on 9dpo, and I doubt I would get a positive on a test his soon. I will definitely test on Saturday, if AF stays away!


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[XXforhubby]

Bre- I think you just caught things too early! I would keep testing and then go back in for the quantitative test. Make sure it is the quantitative one, because it will detect even the slightest amount of HCG as early as 10dpo!

FX and 🙏!!!


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[keepthefaith]

Just booked my harmony test for 6 weeks time, will know what we are having in 8 weeks eek!!

[Dutchgirl]

Wow Keepthefaith, how exiting!!

XX i'm impressed by your patience! Very good that you wait! Better wait than be dissapointed. I wish i had a bit of your patience.

[katewantsagirl]

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Super squinter? Or imaginary squinter? Lol!! 8dpo

[XXforhubby]

Wow Keepthefaith, how exiting!!

XX i'm impressed by your patience! Very good that you wait! Better wait than be dissapointed. I wish i had a bit of your patience.

My LP is usually 12-14 day long. I want to test at 16dpo, because I'll most likely get a BFP. Plus I want to be sure AF is late. AF is never that late when I ovulate on CD13! It could still potentially be a chemical, but I haven't had any spotting yet. Right now I am content being ignorant- at least I can still hope I am pregnant right now! I have had nausea now for the 5th day in a row. I keep telling myself it is my hormones rebalancing to keep me from getting too excited! My temp was nice and high at 98.77 this morning....eek 😬😬


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[XXforhubby]

Plus I haven't had any spotting after I BF DS2! Usually this late in my cycle the BFing can cause me to spot, because my uterus is very sensitive to the BFing and contracts.


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[XXforhubby]

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Super squinter? Or imaginary squinter? Lol!! 8dpo

It could just be my phone, but I can't see anything. I'll check on my computer in a min.


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[katewantsagirl]

Pretty sure it's bfn lol tww making me crazy!!

[XXforhubby]

I am on my computer, and I don't see a line 😞. How many dpo are you? Maybe wait 4-5 more days ant test again.

FX and 🙏!!

[katewantsagirl]

I'm only 8dpo so it's still too early I hope x

[sageviolet]

Hooray for willpower, xx!

Keepthefaith, what's the harmony test? Is it bloodwork through your dr?

[True Blue]

Keepthefaith I think I see a speck where the pregnancy line would start right at the top so maybe you have a real life squinter that doesn't show in picture :fx:

[Mars]

I caved, I tested and BFN :( :( I was quietly confident that this cycle worked. Maybe I should just be content with my two beautiful boys, do I really need a third?

[XXforhubby]

I caved, I tested and BFN :( :( I was quietly confident that this cycle worked. Maybe I should just be content with my two beautiful boys, do I really need a third?

The heart wants what the heart wants! You are not out until AF shows! I am hoping and praying for you! 🙏


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[maidentomother]

Kate, I don't see anything but 8DPO is super early and if you aren't temping you could have Oed later than you think, too. But fx there's something there that darkens tomorrow!

XX, soooo promising snd I'm so excited for you, as well as glad you will wait to test so we can do so together. :)

Mars, you absolutely deserve a girl and 3 children is not asking for too much, it's far fewer children than most couples had prior to the invention & widespread use of birth control. And like XX said, you feel how you feel and your desires, both for a daughter and another child, are completely normal. Blame it on biology and society, if you want. ;) And fx AF stays away!

My temp dropped back down to my more normal range, but big temp fluctuations are common during my LP. What I find most surprising, notable, and promising, is my continued complete lack of symptoms. Especially the lack of sore nips that I've had every other cycle on Vitex. I'm hoping I continue to feel nothing and that I don't spot at all - the last 2 cycles I've had spotting at 7DPO, and spotting, like cramping, always means I'm not pregnant. All the times I've been pregnant, excluding my ectopic/twin pregnancy in 2012, I had no symptoms at all until 6w at the earliest.

[mommymachine]

When are you testing maiden?

[Boom]

Kate, shine a light behind it xxx

[XXforhubby]

I ALWAYS spot 2-3 days before AF starts! I am just glad my hormones appear to be balancing out. If AF does come, I feel confident I will end up pregnant soon! I have never had a chart look so good before!

FX!


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[maidentomother]

When are you testing maiden?

The 18th most likely, maaaybe the 17th if XX tests then and gets her BFP. Did you attempt this month? If so when will you test? Your chart looks great, especially for your first month temping! I didn't realize we were cycle buddies. :)

[mommymachine]

No I didn't make an attempt. Unless you call 7 days before ovulation an attempt! But I have been stalking you and XX!!!

[XXforhubby]

If I am not pregnant, could I be sensitive to good progesterone production? I have seriously been nauseous for five days in a row now! Nothing helps, not eating, not avoiding eating! This happened with DS2 and I lived on Zofran for 28 weeks!

What else could cause this?


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[maidentomother]

Aww thanks mommymachine, I'm feeling the love! It's so thoughtful of you to chartstalk us. :) And O-7 is not completely impossible...though I recall you wanted to wait a cycle or two more before starting TTC.

XX, I haven't personally ever had MS so early, though I did have some other strong pregnancy symptoms starting from 10-14DPO onwards with my most recent pregnancy. It was unusual though due to twins, one being ovarian ectopic, and the fact that the right ovarian cyst was huge and pumping out abnormally high amounts of hormones. Even after I miscarried, that cyst persisted for 6 months, causing all sorts of issues (ovarian pain, wonky cycles), until I went on the BCP to shrink it. So I think it's possible you could have a cyst or two causing elevated P levels & your nausea. Or maybe even just your body adjusting to yoir dropping FSH levels has made you hypersensitive to P, even at normal levels.

Of course, I prefer to assume you're pregnant, possibly with twins, as well as hypersensitive due to the LE diet/the effects of long term swaying, which we KNOW can change our hormones and how we respond to them. :)

[XXforhubby]

Thanks Maiden! The onset coincided with my slight temp dip at 9dpo. Trying to remind myself AF could always show up, and I am sensitive to normal amounts of hormones.

I will definitely test on Saturday with FMU, if AF doesn't come to visit!


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[bre_cooper11]

Negative as in the HCG was too low? How many weeks would you be? Maybe go back in a weeks time and see if it's doubled.

They do qualitative blood tests, either negative or positive. The nurse some pregnancy tests are or sensative and more reliable than a qualitative blood test. As long as AF stays away, they will out in another test on the 20th (they are closed the 16th-19th). FX!!

[bre_cooper11]

Thank you, Maiden
Thank you, Tarasue... your story gives me hope! <3


Missy, Thank you!! It's over 25, they said and it was a qualitative. She want me to come back after the long weekend and retest. I am in South Korea and on using a small medical clinic, so, I only have so many options! Can't really ask for a quant until they prove I am indeed pregnant and having complications. But, I retested the morning and my FRER was darker :) 14 DPO
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Thank you all for your thoughts!! FX for sure, that this little bean sticks !

[Mars]

That's a nice line Bre!

Well I've been to the shop, got some chocolate and going to have a couple days of mourning until AF shows which I reckon will be today or tomorrow. Then on to our last attempt where I think we will just go at it like rabbits lol :D

[bre_cooper11]

That's a nice line Bre!

Well I've been to the shop, got some chocolate and going to have a couple days of mourning until AF shows which I reckon will be today or tomorrow. Then on to our last attempt where I think we will just go at it like rabbits lol :D

Thank you!!
FX for you!! You need some chick-flick movies, or The Walking Dead while you eat those chocolates :) Pink dust... & by that... lots of DIET COKE & COFFEE with splenda. I am pretty sure that is how I got my girls!! lol

[maidentomother]

Bre, that line is definitely darker, seems you have a strong, healthy embryo growing. I don't think you'll have any more issues with blood work. :) How are you determining O, btw? OPKs, temping, both?

Mars, if I'm not pregnant by late Feb/early March, I.e. if I strike out this cycle and the next, I'm going to either BD every 3 days or just go crazy and try for every day all cycle long, maybe even multiple times in a day when possible. If increasing attempts doesn't work and I'm not pregnant by late March/early April, I will be skipping my next 2 cycles, then I'll try again in late June. If I'm STILL not pregnant, then I won't TTC again until December, and at that point (if June fails) I might go onto IVF with GS, with plans for a FET in December.

The only exception to the above being if I meet a soul mate/romantic life partner or the sperm donor of my dreams, in which case I will BD/inseminate every day, every cycle, until pregnant - but I'll keep all my other sway tactics except Vitex, which I might drop the cycle after next anyway. Or if I had/get clomid to assure early O, I'd do every 3 days next cycle.

I think if you have been doing the diet optimally & strictly for 6+ months, have been doing hardcore exercise daily for at least 3 months, are only on pink friendly or neutral supps/meds (folic acid, aspirin, vitex, metformin, antihistamines etc), if you do a cycle with clomid you can probably get a girl in 90+% cases, regardless of how much you BD.

[Mars]

Wow maiden that's a lot of stuff going on. Fingers crossed you get pg this cycle! I reckon clomid probably does sway girl. I know a few people who have had girls while using that. I don't think i can get my hands on it. I was meant to have an ultrasound and blood work done about 3 months ago but I cancelled and decided to just go with the flow. I am going to get some opks this month. I was going to get them last month but didn't. I really want this next month to be the one!

[bre_cooper11]

[QUOTE=maidentomother;671216]Bre, that line is definitely darker, seems you have a strong, healthy embryo growing. I don't think you'll have any more issues with blood work. :) How are you determining O, btw? OPKs, temping, both?

Maiden, thank you. I was using OPKs. Got my first pos OPK on the 31st, it was almost pos at 8pm on the 30th. We BD'd the 30th,31st,1st. I wanted to temp but my themometer did not arrive until CD 15. My LMP was Dec 9th, so I o'd really late! So, causes me to be slightly more concerned. FX

[XXforhubby]

Bre- I am excited for you and keeping you in my prayers!

Mars- I sure hope that AF is late, and you won't have to try next cycle! FX for you either way- I believe you'll get a BFP!



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[XXforhubby]

I keep getting on and off again cramps, since 9dpo that make me question if AF is going to come. She hasn't yet and there is no other indication she will, but these cramps feel strange. Something is going on!

Time will tell! I am honestly ok if I have to try again next cycle. I am more hopeful now after charting that I will get pregnant. Plus, I really want to keep my acupuncture appointment to see what that is all about. It intrigues/speaks to me.

I hope to see some more BFPs!!!


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[QueenB3blue]

Ok, back to the 2ww:-D I got a really dark opk yesterday around 3:30pm. I am trying to stay positive!

Congrats to all the bfp's!! Seems like it has been a good month.

XX, I remember having dull cramps in early pregnancy so that could be a good sign!!

I am having a hard time logging onto the site. I use my phone most of the time. But when I log in it kicks me right off so I am unable to post a comment. It is really frustrating!!!
Anyways, I am always checking in. I am anxious to see BFP's!!!

[sageviolet]

Is it possible to o and not have a temp shift right away? I don't understand why my temp wasn't higher this morning. All other signs say I o'ed!

[XXforhubby]

Is it possible to o and not have a temp shift right away? I don't understand why my temp wasn't higher this morning. All other signs say I o'ed!

This has happened to me before. What it meant for me, confirmed by US, was that O was delayed. I thought it came early but it was later instead. My dr said that o pains can occur at anytime. I did end up getting a temp shift that confirmed what we saw.

FX and truck loads of blue baby dust 💙💙💙!


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[XXforhubby]

I thought I was going to get my period at 1:00am. I had bad cramps and noticed brownish cm when I wiped. I even put on a big pad and took 2 Tylenol! Well AF didn't come and my temp is even higher this morning 98.90!! Trying not to get my hopes up 😁😁😁

Has anyone gotten a huge temp shift in the morning and then gotten AF later that day?


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[XXforhubby]

I bet AF will show up within the next 2 days. I am just thrown off by my high temp this morning. Usually before AF arrives my temp drops. FF said it can happen. Oh well! I am looking forward to my acupuncture appointment anyway!


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[mommymachine]

[QUOTE=maidentomother;671156]Aww thanks mommymachine, I'm feeling the love! It's so thoughtful of you to chartstalk us. :) And O-7 is not completely impossible...though I recall you wanted to wait a cycle or two more before starting TTC.[QUOTE]

I know it isn't completely impossible. But for the life of me I can not find out what the actual percentage of conception would be! It wouldn't be too big of a deal...I just have my heart set on another winter baby. With my temperature spike this morning I am starting to wonder though...

[essnce629]

I thought I was going to get my period at 1:00am. I had bad cramps and noticed brownish cm when I wiped. I even put on a big pad and took 2 Tylenol! Well AF didn't come and my temp is even higher this morning 98.90!! Trying not to get my hopes up 😁😁😁

Has anyone gotten a huge temp shift in the morning and then gotten AF later that day?


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Sounds promising! And I've never had AF come with my temp going higher. It always drops, even if it's a small drop not all the way to the coverline. And I have about 60 of my own charts to look back on!

[XXforhubby]

Sounds promising! And I've never had AF come with my temp going higher. It always drops, even if it's a small drop not all the way to the coverline. And I have about 60 of my own charts to look back on!

Ooh, I am cautiously optimistic! I hope my temp stays high tomorrow, but won't be surprised if it dips down. I am not having anymore cramping, and I am not spotting. At least I am having great progesterone production, which is a big change for the better. I am hopeful I will get a BFP soon, one way or another!


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[mommymachine]

Ooh, I am cautiously optimistic! I hope my temp stays high tomorrow, but won't be surprised if it dips down. I am not having anymore cramping, and I am not spotting. At least I am having great progesterone production, which is a big change for the better. I am hopeful I will get a BFP soon, one way or another!


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I am really rooting for you XX!

[Sunbuny]

Good luck XX! I'll be watching this space


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[katewantsagirl]

I'm only 9dpo but I feel out this month. I have about 15kgs to lose to get back to prebabies weight so thinking I might lose that then try after that. Thinking of starting on vitex, is it ok while breastfeeding??

[XXforhubby]

Only from AF-O. I would be hesitant to take it while BFing though. BFing can make your cycles wonky and the Vitex can make it worse. I would check in with Atomic first, because everyone's situation is different. FWIW, it made my cycles crazy!

You are not out until the Witch comes!

FX for you!!!


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[XXforhubby]

I'm still BFing too, though not that much anymore- only 2-3 times a day sporadically. When I took the Vitex, I was BFing 6-8 times a day back in August-September.


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[katewantsagirl]

So just had a BM and had was bleeding? I've been spotting for over a week. Have no idea where I'm at in my cycle now, I think the breastfeeding is making my cycle crazy but it was regular for two or three months hmm.

[katewantsagirl]

And I don't think I'll take the vitex, I don't want to take any sort of risks for my daughter who has a sensitive tummy anyway!

[maidentomother]

Bre, I wouldn't worry shout Oing a little on the late side. There is no evidence that it's 'bad' to O late. You got pregnant, that's what matters!

Mars, I will have to order the clomid online unofficially. No way in hell a Getman dr would prescribe it to me!

Sage, for me whenever I don't get my expected temp rise - and my temps continje to remain in pre O range - it means I haven't actually Oed yet. Rarely I'll have a slow temp rise, but I've never Oed without a temp rise to some degree. I have also had ultrasound monitored cycles like XX.

XX, twice in the past year I've had my temp rise above all prior temps then gotten AF the next day. Usually my temps stay high right until AF suddenly arrives. So I don't assume based on temps, personally. I hate feeling tricked.

mommymachine, the odds from 7 days before O are probably under 5%, maybe 2-3%? But you appear to be quite fertile...

Kate, taking Vitex while BFing can help regulate/shorten your cycles and is safe for baby. I am a fan on Vitex; it is true that it can mess with your cycle, but usually only the first 4-8 weeks of taking it. There is definitely an adjustment period. But once you've gone through that, I find it brings O forward a bit and substantially increases the length if my LP as well as my post O temps overall.

I am hoping I didn't actually see a bit of tannish CM when wiping after a BM just now. Spotting means I'm out, and I maybe feel a little cramping, too. :( I couldn't fall asleep last night, so temped after an almost 3 hour nap this evening, so today's temp isn't particularly accurate. Seems low, too, for not having slept properly.

[Mars]

I'm still here reading and waiting for the next BFP :)
Still no AF for me, Im sure I'm not pregnant though as I would have had a BFP by 14dpo.

[XXforhubby]

I'm still here reading and waiting for the next BFP :)
Still no AF for me, Im sure I'm not pregnant though as I would have had a BFP by 14dpo.

Don't count yourself out Mars! I was in the same place you are at with DS2. I tested the day AF should have come at 12dpo, and got a BFN. After AF no showing up at 17dpo, I got a squinter. At 21dpo with no AF, I FINALLY got my BFP! I thought I Oed on CD15, but I had to have Oed later than that based on when I got my BFP and gestational dating.

FX for you! I think you're pregnant by the way 😉


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[XXforhubby]

Maiden- That is why I fear I may be out. I am having a brown discharge- I would not call it spotting though. My spotting is always pink/red. I am not cramping, but that doesn't mean anything though. I usually have 2-3 days of spotting before AF. My temps usually have a slow decline with the morning of AF being the lowest, but still well above the cover line.

Although this is new territory for me. My chart has never looked this beautiful. We'll see. If the discharge increases or changes color, then I know I am out. The only time I have had a LP longer than 14 days was when I was pregnant.

Who knows though! Since I am sensitive to medication/supplements, maybe my body needed more time to rebound from stopping the myoinositol. This could be the "practice" cycle for my hormones to normalize.

If this month's chart is indicative to good hormone production, then I have a real good chance of getting pregnant soon!

FX for the rest of us ladies waiting! Someone is bound to get a BFP! I am betting on Mars and Maiden 💕!


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[sageviolet]

Thanks for the advice! We had another attempt this morning just in case. lol, "Honey, my temp is low. Are you up for a quickie?" Should we keep doing every other day until it goes up? And I don't get why my chest is sore if I'm not in the 2ww (normal for me). That and the dry cm happened on time. I'm wondering if dd waking up during the night got my temp off, although it usually doesn't.

XX, I used to have the pre-af temp decline before I had dd, but I don't anymore. I wonder if taking the b6 causes it or maybe bfing did, although we're totally weaned now.

And if you want a crazy temp story, let me tell you about when I conceived dd: The morning I was planning to poas for the first time at 14dpo, my temp took a nosedive. I woke up all sweaty and weird and the low temp, so I was like, no, not worth testing, af is coming any minute. The next day my temp was up some again and that day I was having cramps and feeling off, which I thought was pre-af. But the next morning, I just woke up and knew I was preg. I could tell because no af yet and I had a little pain in my back like with the pregnancy that miscarried. Yeah, that was so special, just to wake up to a Christmas song playing on the radio and know! Of course I ran to poas and confirm. And I will never again let a temp dip keep me from testing, lol.

[Mars]

XX I think YOU are pregnant!! Sounds very promising anyway :D Both times with my boys I have tested 2 days before AF was due and got blazing BFP so I don't think so plus we only had one attempt on the 29th Dec so if I O'd later then we would have missed it. Must just be a whacky cycle this month to screw with my mind. I had one like this last January and I went to the Dr and got a blood test, turns out I just had a 39 day cycle. My Cycles have been so good for a few months though so I don't know whats going on. On CD32 today and I reckon AF will show up.

[XXforhubby]

SageViolet- did you have any discharge? I am having on and off again cramping, with a little brownish discharge. My temps are still nice and high, even higher than normal during the day too.

I also have been getting pretty debilitating nausea everyday since 9dpo, which strangely enough coincides with a slight temp dip (still in the 98's though). Resting right now with DS2, because I feel so sick! I have lost 3 lbs! I don't have much to lose 😬!

I keep telling myself I am out, but we'll see. I am 13dpo today. If I didn't have the discharge, I would think I am in it still. I think AF will come sometime in the next 2 days.

I am still holding out hope for you Mars!


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[XXforhubby]

I think my symptoms are a result of my body adjusting to normal hormone production.

I think AF is on her way- I am feeling like I do before she comes. Oh well, at least I get to keep my acupuncture appointment, and things appear to be getting back on track for me!

I am rooting for you Maiden and Mars! We need some more BFPs! Then you can share your baby dust with me- I need all the help I can get!!

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[maidentomother]

XX, as usual, I admire your superb attitude. I agree that it's win/win, whether you're pregnant (fx!) or your hormones have improved. I am not hopeful since my little bit of tannish CM, but I do think Mars will probably see a BFP! And THANK YOU for rooting for me. :)

Sage, yes, keep BDing once daily until you get your cross hairs at 3DPO. I see sooo many women stop BDing too soon and since you're swaying blue, it's even more important you that you BD well through/after O. Better too much than not enough, right?

Mars, you'd be surprised by how long sperm can survive...I would NOT necessarily count yourself out just bc you might have Oed later. Fx for you.

[Mars]

Maiden I think your still in with a chance too! Aw you going to test soon?
Xx either way at least you know your body is doing something right. It all sounds really promising though!!!
Thanks ladies :) I'm feeling nothing. Last night I wasn't even hungry. Had a couple twinges near my ovaries but nothing else oh except my back hurting. Just wish AF would hurry up so I can get on with things. I've only got one test left so I can't use it..... If I get to 40 days then I'll test again.

[mommymachine]

Maiden, in any of your pregnancies did you get implantation bleeding? It is the right time for you to be getting it. I experienced it in 3 or 4 of my 7 pregnancies.

[maidentomother]

Maiden, in any of your pregnancies did you get implantation bleeding? It is the right time for you to be getting it. I experienced it in 3 or 4 of my 7 pregnancies.

Nope. :( In all 6 of my previous pregnancies I had ZERO spotting or cramping of any kind. :( And the past 2 cycles I've had some degree of spotting, isolated at 7DPO only and I think I Oed a day later than FF thinks this cycle so am 7DPO. But up until 2 cycles ago, I virtually never had spotting halfway through my LP, though I often spot 1-2 days before AF and sometimes I spot for 4 days before AF, usually darker brown colour and very minimal amount, mostly just when I wipe.

The fact that it is only a tiny to small amount (well, it was both the cycle before last & this cycle - last cycle I had much darker reddish-brown, moderate-heavy though still very brief spotting, I think bc I ran out of Vitex and was off it from 3-10DPO) and that it lasts only a few hours one day is totally a tease, but an empty one. :( Maybe it's a Vitex side effect from being on it so long? It's also possible I irritated my cervix while temping on 6DPO as I recall being a bit rough and my thermometer is glass. But I don't think cervical injury could possibly explain the last 2 months of spotting at 7DPO.

Awww thanks Mars...I did actually test this afternoon, stark white BFN, but I may only be 6-7DPO and am definitely not more than 8DPO. I won't test again until Sat/Sun, I only tested today bc if by some miracle I had any early BFP I wouldn't rush order nearly as many FRERs and OPKs for my brother to bring back from the US. Feeling nothing is the best sign for me, I hope it is for you, too.

[Mars]

I'm an idiot. I was just looking at my kids baby photos and they made me cry :( I've been super irritable the last few days and biting their heads off, now I want to get them out of bed (it's 8pm here) and give them big hugs.

[sageviolet]

Mars - *hugs* I find it easier to get sentimental over the photos, too, when they're not actually around doing annoying things, lol. FX for you!

Maiden - FX for you, too! Your chart looks great. I vote implantation spotting!

XX - With dd, I had creamy around 9dpo then sticky a couple of times after that. No spotting ever. Until I was 6 weeks along, I had one spot and *totally* freaked out. I thought I was having another m/c and did in my head, like went through the whole process mentally. It's weird now to remember the day I m/c dd! It happened again once and I figured out it was after eating kale from the garden. I read a hint somewhere that cruciferous veggies can affect progesterone then I was able to pinpoint the kale. I avoided cruciferous veggies until the 3rd tri and never had anymore spotting. FX for you! I think you're still in, but even if not, I agree things are getting better and it's bound to happen soon!

My update -- Woot! Ff gave me crosshairs today! I'm sad it isn't much of a rise, but hey at least it was enough for crosshairs!

[QueenB3blue]

I just installed tapatalk on my phone. Hoping I can stay more In the loop now.
Maiden hoping the brown spotting is from the break in your Vitex. I think I remember quit a few ladies getting pregnant the month after they dropped Vitex. Do you plan to drop it at some point? Fx you are pg and don't have to worry about that;)

Xx, wish I could see your chart. I am anxious to see what your temp is doing. Great job holding out on testing! I would have caved by now!!

Yay for crosshairs sageviolet! With your bd pattern this month I would think you have an amazing shot at a bfp!'


Mars every pregnancy is different:) you very well can still be getting your bfp this month!


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[tarasue]

I had some brownish pink spotting two days before I got my last Bfp. Don't count yourselves out yet:).

I am trying to be patient.... Took day 5 of clomid last night. How long after the last day should you ovulate? I'm ready to get this show on the road!!!

Anyone heard or seen anything from 2boys??

[QueenB3blue]

Wish I knew more about clomid tarasue:-/ it is so hard to be patient when it comes to TTC!

I am also concerned about 2boys. Hope she updates soon:(


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[tarasue]

I don't know much about clomid either. I just know I would get hot flashes a few hours after taking it, and I just feel like my body is running hot. No cramps or anything yet, hope it is working. I don't know why, but for some reason I feel this is a sure thing since I am taking clomid. I know that's not rational thinking and I could be setting myself up for super devastation!

[XXforhubby]

My temp dipped this morning and AF came to visit! I am surprisingly doing great! My flow has gone back to what it used to be before having kids, which is a GOOD thing for me! I believe my hormones just needed more time to balance back out from taking so much myo-inositol for so long (for non-swaying purposes). I am sensitive to medication/supplements, and I believe that is what has caused my hormones to get out of wack. My recent chart does NOT look like a menopausal woman's chart!

Anyway, I am going to start Yoga again to detox and help me stay positive, in addition to my cardio. I'll be starting acupuncture treatments once my period ends. Plus DH said we can keep trying for another year, if we don't conceive by August! I am ok though. I adore my two boys and can find peace and solace in them if we can't conceive another baby. I just would feel badly for DH, because he has the GD for a girl.

Thanks for listening ladies! I'll be watching and praying you all get your BFP's!


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[XXforhubby]

I am also worried about 2boysjustonegirl! I sure hope she is doing ok!


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[maidentomother]

Sage, I hate to even think it but looking at your chart, I am not convinced you've Oed. Your post O temps are always at least 98.2 and your temps are still very much in your pre O range. I highly recommend you continue BDing daily and OPKing once daily in case you surge again.

Mars, maybe you're pregnant and that's causing you to feel so emotional? I hope you're feeling good today.

Queen, unfortunately it was LAST cycle that I had a break from Vitex. I haven't this cycle so I have no idea why, unless I injured my cervix. But the bit of cramping last night really makes me think I'm out. I will stop taking Vitex after the next cycle if I'm not pregnant. Maybe I should reduce my dose this next cycle?

tarasue, you should O, on average, 7 days after your last day of taking clomid. The range is 5-10 days for those with regular cycles, but like I said it's usually very close to if not exactly 7 days.

XX, sorry AF came. Your plans sound great, and I will probably be joining you again next cycle.

[XXforhubby]

FX you get your BFP this cycle Maiden!! I am still holding out hope for you!


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[djmommy]

XX it does sound like you have a great plan and great attitude!!! You will get your BFP soon!!

[maidentomother]

Thanks XX, but feeling crampy today so seems quite unlikely. Temps aren't very encouraging either - I hope AF doesn't come early. :/

I also have been wondering about 2boys. Fx all is well.

[Dutchgirl]

XX so sorry your AF came...
Glad to hear you so optimistic. You will get your BFP soon!

[Mars]

XX oh bugger :( sorry it wasn't your month but fantastic news your cycle is returning to normal.
Maiden your not out until AF shows! Hope you get a lovely surprise :)
I'm still here.... Still waiting! I refuse to waste another test so if AF isn't here by next Saturday I'll test but I'm not holding out hope.

[keepthefaith]

Hi girls just checking in, keeping fingers crossed for all waiting for BFPS! I've booked my harmony test for 24th feb eek!!

[Mars]

CD33 and still no AF. I am starting to get a little bit hopeful again after something my mother told me.
I need to tell this story to someone! So my Nan is known for having pregnancy dreams about her family, every time she dreams someone is pregnant it comes true. Well she told my mother that she had a dream about me but it was unusual for her as this time I had already had the baby and it was a girl :) Now I know it could mean nothing but seeing as my Nan has these dreams I'm taking it!

[bre_cooper11]

Reading through...
Boo to AF :( xx, but FX for next cycle!
Maiden, *hugs* hopfully no AF!
Yay, keepingthefaith!
Mars, you totally have hope, girl!! FX for no AF and your dream sounds amazing!

... My little update, tests are getting darker, so, I called the nurse on the 15th she reluclently put in another blood test. So, I had another blood draw on the 15th and it was 'weakly positive'...but positive. They want me to still come back on the 20th for another blood draw.

[katewantsagirl]

I have no idea what is going on with my cycle or where I'm at. Started AF on 23/12 and not really sure if I Od or not. Started spotting from my guesstimate O on 6/1. Continued spotting for a week. Had the implanting scratch (8dpo) that I felt with my second two kids then had a sticky bleed the next day. I've been bleeding (only when I wipe or stick my finger up there (lol sorry!). I feel real pregnant? Nausea for a week, heartburn today, tired. Could my body maybe not have ovulated since I've been Bfing and it's gearing up to? Heaps of cramps this month from middle of cycle. I'm 10dpo and taken a million hpts and BFN. And I'm bleeding. Weird

[Junie]

Kate- Do you use OPKS? Please don't keep touching your cervix- it can irritate things and can't really tell you anything. If you are only 10 DPO then it could still be too early to get a BFP. I would wait a few more days and test again.

[Mars]

Annnnnnnd AF arrived. :( that's ok, onto another cycle.

[maidentomother]

Bre,, that is good!

Kate, I'd be confused with that cycle, too.

It appears AF is about to start...dark blackish gunk and almost-flow with full on AF cramps and another temp drop. So much for my LP!

[Junie]

Sorry Mars and Maiden!

[maidentomother]

And there's flow. Argh. I don't understand at all how I can alternate between 13-14 and 9 day LPs, and while taking Vitex! Pre Vitex my longest LP ever was 12 days, though it rarely was more than 11 - so I guess 9-14 is a better ranger than 8-11?

[MissyMc7]

Xx, mars and maiden so sorry the witch found you all. Hopefully next month is your month and I'll still get to share a due date group with you. I'll have my fingers crossed for you all.

[maidentomother]

Thanks Junie & Missy. Hopefully Junie will catch the egg this next cycle, too.

[True Blue]

Sorry to those of you who AF reared her head for :hair: Hopefully next cycle will be your month :noaf: :fx:

[keepthefaith]

Mars and Maiden next month it is!! Sending hugs xx

[XXforhubby]

Maiden and Mars- Well at least we have each other again in the 2ww!

Maiden- the same thing happened to me while taking Vitex. The month I dropped it I had an 8 day LP. Since dropping it, I consistently have a 12-16 day LP with 13-14 what I mostly get. I am sensitive to medication/supplements though, and I wonder if they still affect me for awhile after stopping them. Case in point- the myo-inositol finally appears to be out of my system, based on my chart last cycle, and that was a full 2 months being off of it! Myo has a 10hour half life! And I have a high metabolism. Strange.

Just thought I'd share 😉!

Fx for us next cycle and for healthy sticky beans to all the recent BFP ladies!!!


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[tweedledeedum]

Can I join you ladies?

[XXforhubby]

Can I join you ladies?

Absolutely! Where are you in your cycle? I am on CD 2. Waiting for CD 5 to start BDing 😊!


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[tweedledeedum]

Aw, thanks! I am spotting, about to start af. I was so convinced I was pregnant this month it's been a bit of a let down. Sorry to see some of you are in the same boat! Hopefully next month is it for everyone!

[2boysJustOneGirl]

Sorry to keep ya hanging! I needed a break from reality- this forum is sometimes the devils advocate bc its a reminder of all that hurts.
Anyway no BFP- my Hcg last Sunday was 12, a fall from 15. Aside from feeling stupid, I really hit bottom- I wanted to be pregnant sooooo badly to fill the empty spot I had inside. Now that I am not, it's just too sad and I can hardly breathe at times. Anyway I don't know where I am in my cycle. I am so confused with my body and I guess that's natural after a loss.


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[nuthinbutpink]

It's not stupid...it can take time for HCG to leave your system but that is great that is it going down on its own!

I think this is why most doctors recommend waiting until after you get a natural AF before you try again. It is very confusing until you get AF...I hope you get back on track soon!

[XXforhubby]

Good to hear from you 2boysjustonegirl! Don't feel stupid! I am glad the HCG is going down. I am keeping you in my prayers and hope you get a BFP with a healthy, sticky bean (hopefully pink 💞) soon!!

❤️❤️❤️


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[QueenB3blue]

Xx, Maiden, and Mars, so sorry af found you:( seems like there are quite a few of you that cycle together! (Sorry if I missed anyone)


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[QueenB3blue]

Welcome tweedledeedum!

2boys so relieved to hear from you! Please look after yourself;) a mc is physically and emotionally draining.



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[2boysJustOneGirl]

Thanks everyone! I didn't expect to be missed so much! Lol. I needed the break, my head was too obsessed with all this to see clearly. I feel better these days....and very grateful for your concern. Thanks so much.


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[XXforhubby]

You're very welcome 2boysjustonegirl, we love and care about you 😘. We all hope you get a sticky BFP very soon, especially after all you have been through. I know it is rough right now, but you'll get your strength back and be able to try again soon. Know we are all here for you ❤️❤️❤️!


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[katewantsagirl]

AF def here. 24 day cycle what the heck. Will monitor this month, not sure if I should try the vitex?

[XXforhubby]

Wow! There are 5 of us ladies cycling together- Kate, Maiden, Mars, Tweedledeedum, and me! This is very interesting! Hopefully there is power in numbers, and we all get BFPS! I wonder if we will all O together too! Wouldn't that be something!


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[maidentomother]

XX, that's the thing, I DIDN'T stop Vitex, I took it every day all cycle long, my 4th cycle on it continuously! So there is no apparent explanation for my 9 day LP. :( Also, in the past when I stopped taking V, I still had an extended LP the next cycle. I did stop taking Vitex today, CD1, bc I am taking Soy Iso for 5 days which can't be combined with V. But I'd like to resume V on CD6 if possible, maybe at 2/3 my previous dose, but I really don't want to go off V completely until the NEXT cycle.

Welcome, tweedle!

2boys, sorry to hear you aren't pregnant. I can't imagine how annoyed I'd feel. Fx it will happen for real soon.

Queen, I think a majority of us O close to the full moon, as is our natural tendency.

Kate, I too had a shorter than usual cycle at 26 days. Do you think maybe you Oed earlier than you normally do? Or maybe a short LP from BFing? Though typically cycles tend to be long while BFing..

[sageviolet]

Xx, big hugs and enjoy the acupuncture! I had it last summer. Only one or two ever hurt. Overall it was very relaxing and I always felt energized later.

Maiden, Mars, and Kate, big hugs to you, too! Mars, I love the dream story. Hope it's true eventually!

Welcome, Tweedle! This is a great group. Are you swaying?

2boys, so good to hear from you. I've been there. You do whatever you need to do to take care of yourself. Sending you lots of love.

Wow, 5 of you together, sounds like a big poas party coming up next month! Fun!

My temp was up even more today. I'm fairly certain I o'ed on Mon. because I get the sore chest afterwards, but we did get one more bd in just in case. And don't be fooled by the great bding schedule -- we've done it properly every cycle since ttc. That's why I made the appt. with the specialist, but that won't be until just before o in the next cycle. Hopefully I can go in and just ask for a pregnancy blood test and early monitoring, lol.

[Dutchgirl]

Maiden, so sorry you're not pregnant...

Kate as well, big hugs girls!

[maidentomother]

Sage, CD17 looks like O to me so I'm glad you attempted again! I think you Oed a few days later than marked in your July and September cycles, too.

[XXforhubby]

Maiden- I sent you a PM about some advice for me. Just wanted to give you a heads up 😘!


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[foxymrsg]

Oh 2boys I'm sorry to hear that I've been thinking of you. Please don't feel stupid though I think many of us would hope the same if we were in your shoes! Remember there's never any judgement on here xx

[tweedledeedum]

Thanks for the welcomes!

Sage - yup, swaying pink again. I did an intense sway two years ago and this one is definitely lighter! Trying to stick to a few keys and hope for the best! (vitex, one attempt, loose diet, fiber, diet drinks, refresh)

[2boysJustOneGirl]

Lone behold AF has arrived. I suppose only good and righteous people deserve a pregnancy right after a loss. Not me. I deserve a miscarried baby girl and a lifetime of misery. Sometimes I seriously wonder what I did to deserve this.


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[bluebonnet22]

2boys - I'm so sorry for what you're going through. My first AF after my loss was extremely painful for me. We tried to get pg right away after my loss as well and when AF arrived it stung so much. AF is a terrible reminder you aren't pregnant and you have every right to be angry and upset. I did get pregnant right away after that first AF and if your heart is in it I urge you not to give up.

Study: No Need to Delay Pregnancy After Miscarriage (http://www.webmd.com/baby/news/20100805/study-no-need-delay-pregnancy-after-miscarriage)

Reading this article gave me much comfort and and gave my husband and I the push to keep trying for a healthy baby. I probably conceived TWO boys after my loss, so I'm in no position to give swaying advice at this time. I wish you all the best and know that so many on this site are cheering you on. I hope you get your sticky pregnancy soon!

[XXforhubby]

I am so sorry 2boysjustonegirl! That is gut wrenching! I am keeping you in my prayers!


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[sageviolet]

Thanks for the chart input, Maiden!

More hugs, 2boys! I miscarried in Sept. 2011 then conceived in Nov. I wanted a baby so much and was stuck battling Lyme disease. It was so hard, but I was determined not to give up. In mourning my loss, it really helped me to hand sew a new set of curtains that look like stained glass for the room I hoped would someday be a nursery. Is there something you want do to honor the life of your angel baby? I also found comfort reading "Heaven Is for Real" and you might like it, too, if you're Christian.

One more week until I test. No early tests this time, I just want to know for sure, or as sure as possible, lol, so I won't do it until immediately before af. Temp is good today, chest very sore, and increased cm. I'm 5dpo.

[Junie]

Lone behold AF has arrived. I suppose only good and righteous people deserve a pregnancy right after a loss. Not me. I deserve a miscarried baby girl and a lifetime of misery. Sometimes I seriously wonder what I did to deserve this.


Sweetie you didn't do anything!!! I know it is so hard right now- for me mornings are the worst when I wake up and realize I'm not pregnant anymore. However for me it helps to focus on the good things- now that you have AF you don't have to have any fears about your lining and can TTC without worrying. You know you can get pregnant with a girl- so that means there is nothing stopping you from conceiving a healthy baby girl this cycle. Please just try and hang in there. Big BIG hugs from me.

Right now I am mainly worrying that my levels will take weeks or months to go down and I won't even get the chance to TTC. I never ever ever wanted a Dec baby but this has shown me that planning these things is pointless.

[EmileeJane]

I am sorry to hear AF started 2boysjust1girl. I don't have much advice except maybe this gives you a little extra time to process the loss of your baby. I know you'd probably rather not. I tend to want to move quickly past painful times in my life rather than feel it. I am sending good thoughts and hopes that your body heals quickly and you can TTC again soon.

Junie- I am so out of the loop, did you also suffer a miscarriage? Sorry for all of your losses.
I can empathize with you on the lack of control. I haven't suffered a loss but have had long set backs with my body during this process. I thought I would conceive the 1st or 2nd try and now I'm 6 months in. I also did not want a Dec baby. I was hoping for a late spring/early summer baby. Now I am crossing my fingers for a 2015 baby! I'm trying to get back on a positive thinking track . It gets hard when people around you are pregnant or get pregnant without trying. ((Hugs)) to you all!

[Junie]

EmileeJane- We suffered a loss on my B-day on Thursday. I consider that CD1 and am back on a relaxed form of LE, and in a good week we will start BDing every 4 days. I know just how you feel with control the lack of control. This whole process can be so frustrating but I do think it is easier if I try to stay positive. I won't ever get these days back so I should try and enjoy them and live them to the fullest. Much easier said than done though!

[essnce629]

So sorry that AF found you 2boys. I think it's really hard to get pregnant that cycle immediately after a loss as the body is trying to get back on track and things are delayed, etc.

I had my miscarriage back in October, so 3 months ago now, and it was such a dark and depressing time for me. I cried daily for weeks and it doesn't help that DH says we are done and that he wants to get a vasectomy. He hasn't yet, but insists on using condoms or pulling out and every time we dtd I just want to cry as I pretty much have zero chance of getting pregnant, let alone getting a girl. I've pretty much dropped all swaying as I try to get healthy again after finding I have extremely low ferritin, MTHFR mutation, low cortisol, low magnesium, and low vitamin D after swaying for a year. I believe that my miscarried baby was a girl too, as I had a pretty strong kitchen sink sway. It's only been in the last couple of weeks that I'm starting to feel normal again and not super depressed all the time. Miscarriages take a huge physical, hormonal, and emotional toll on women. I have no idea how women go on who have suffered multiple losses. It was the darkest time in my life and I never want to go through it again. (((HUGS))) and I hope you get your healthy baby girl soon.

[Junie]

@essnce629 I just want to give you a huge hug. What are your husband's reasons for wanting to stop?? I really really hope that he changes his mind. How terrible to end your journey like that... Do you think he could come around?? I'm not religious but I will pray that things change for you as reading your post made me feel so sad for you.

My cheapie was much lighter today. Still 2 lines but I am hoping that by next weekend they are gone. I really want to start having sex again as I have spent the last 10 weeks feeling awful and now I feel relatively normal and really miss my husband but of course I absolutely don't want to get an infection so I am going to try and wait one week.

For those of you who had miscarriages, how long did you wait to have sex?

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[bluebonnet22]

Junie - do you have any follow up appointments with your Dr? My doctor did a follow up ultrasound exactly 6 days after the bleeding stopped and confirmed everything was completely clear. I stopped bleeding or spotting after 4 days or so, but we planned on waiting to DTD until after the ultrasound or 1 week (if my doctor had told me an u/s wasn't necessary).

[2boysJustOneGirl]

Thanks for the support ladies. Back on LE diet full force and taking vitex to hopefully push ovulation back- if I can't O will fall at a bad time making babys due date on DS2 bday. I always go overdue by about 3-4 days so I can't bank on an early delivery but I guess you never know. I don't want another October baby anyway- MIL bday is that month and it irritates me to have my babies born then😉 O is to happen around the 27th-feb 1 so I am going to count myself out of this Jan 2ww. I wish you all the best this month:)


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[2boysJustOneGirl]

Btw I named my angel baby girl Edith, after a mountain in the Rockies. We visited there last summer and I fell in love with that mountain and the lakes below. It was then we decided to TTC again and that mountain represents what my baby girls dream is- powerful and possible.


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[Junie]

Bluebonnet- I would have had an appt this coming Thurs or Fri (so 1 week after miscarriage) but we are on vacation so I won't be able to have an appt until 2 weeks after the miscarriage. I think to be safe I will wait until spotting completely stops or at least 1 week.

2boys- I LOVE the name Edith and I love what the name represents for you. Keep thinking this way. I know you will be getting your baby girl!!

[XXforhubby]

Essnce- my heart goes out to you, and I hope and pray that your husband comes around so you can TTC again soon. My DH pulled the plug on ttcing after my chemical in November. When we had a heart to heart, he told me he couldn't bare to see me so upset and didn't want me to go through that again. I told him my strong desire to have another baby is, and he came around again. I have stopped talking to him about anything ttc, and I talk to you ladies on here more. I hope that your DH comes around too. Maybe he just needs more time- for you to get your health back. I am praying for you!


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[3boyswantinggirl]

I hope its ok that I join in the conversation :)
I think Im officially on my 2ww. DH and I hadnt planned to start TTC until next month but Ive been having issues with my pill and after getting unwell during my last cycle which caused an incredibly weak period (So light that Im still not even sure thats what it was...) Im now off the pill and we've agreed that we may as well start trying a month early.
I woke up this morning feeling like Id done 300 situps, my abdomen is so achy and sore nipples. I cant be sure exactly where I am in my cycle due to my last period, but my OPK showed a light + this afternoon so Im pretty sure going by my symptoms of abdominal cramps, location of cervix and CM I ovulated sometime in the last 48 hours. I POAS this afternoon but of course it was BFN, way too early to test. Fingers crossed that theres pink causing all the horrible aching Im getting lol

[XXforhubby]

2boysjustonegirl- I love the name Edith! That is one of my favorite girl names! I used to live in Colorado and know that vista view well! FX for you that you get a BFP soon!


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[XXforhubby]

Junie- you are such an amazing person! Enjoy your vacation, and reconnect with DH! I hope you catch Goldie!


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[XXforhubby]

All of you ladies who have experienced a miscarriage are such amazing and strong women. I admire your strength and courage. I also hope you never have to experience that ever again, and you can get your baby (blue or pink) soon!


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[XXforhubby]

I hope its ok that I join in the conversation :)
I think Im officially on my 2ww. DH and I hadnt planned to start TTC until next month but Ive been having issues with my pill and after getting unwell during my last cycle which caused an incredibly weak period (So light that Im still not even sure thats what it was...) Im now off the pill and we've agreed that we may as well start trying a month early.
I woke up this morning feeling like Id done 300 situps, my abdomen is so achy and sore nipples. I cant be sure exactly where I am in my cycle due to my last period, but my OPK showed a light + this afternoon so Im pretty sure going by my symptoms of abdominal cramps, location of cervix and CM I ovulated sometime in the last 48 hours. I POAS this afternoon but of course it was BFN, way too early to test. Fingers crossed that theres pink causing all the horrible aching Im getting lol

3boyswantinggirl- FX for you! Sounds promising!!!


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[EmileeJane]

I hope all of you that experienced your losses take good care and heal over the next few weeks and get BFP in the next month or two.

I am also randomly in my 2ww. I had a positive Opk on day 27 of my cycle on Thursday. I can't believe I finally ovulated! First time in 10 weeks. I'm trying not to stress about catching the egg but I am. We DTD 2 days before a positive Opk (which was very unexpected) & again the night of pos opk. I really just hope it happens. I'm excited that I may not need the meds to help. But if I don't fall pregnant this time I will be taking the Femara next cycle. I know 2 times isn't the best 'girl' practice but I also really want to have a baby.
I'm keeping my fingers crossed and will update in a couple weeks. Best of luck gals!

[XXforhubby]

GL EmileeJane! FX you caught the egg! I hope you don't need the Femara 😉!


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[Junie]

Thanks so much XX, I've got everything crossed for you this cycle!!!

Emilee- I hope the long wait comes to an end for you this cycle and you get your BFP!

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[sageviolet]

Emilee - I'm exactly the same place, 6 cycles in, wanted an early summer baby, absolutely no winter holiday baby, and now wondering if I can have one in 2015. We just have to let go and let God.

Junie - I'm so sorry for your loss. Big *hugs*!!! We waited one month but it was an early m/c at 5-1/2 weeks.

essnce - Glad you're feeling more yourself. Hurting less doesn't mean you love your angel baby any less. And this is terrible, lol, but wasn't there a girl sway technique they tried once where they put holes in the condom?

[XXforhubby]

I thought about the hole in the condom method too before DH came on board ttcing #3! I didn't have to, because he decided WTH in the moment! I wouldn't hesitate to do it either- DH loves children and would view it as a "miracle"! Lol! I think he would boast about being super virile! I could hear him now- super sperm! 😆!


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[essnce629]

2boys-- I named my angel baby too. I have a feeling it was a girl since I had a kitchen sink sway. I named her Nora, which means "light." Every night I light a candle for her.

XX and Sage-- DH has never been on board with a third baby, it was all my idea and he didn't even know I was swaying. Both boys were oopsies, and if they weren't we'd probably have no kids! So baby #3 was a "planned" oopsie on my part. DH was super mad when he found out I was pregnant with #3, but was just starting to come around to the idea when I miscarried. Like the boys, I knew he would be mad for a few weeks, but then would be fine. I never imagined I'd miscarry and end up with zero chance of having a girl. All I can do is pray he leaves off the condom one day and one sperm manages to get out before he pulls out. 😟

[Junie]

Essnce629- If I was sure he would come around and I didn't think he would have changed his mind I would have gone to any lengths to have a third.... I hope your hubby leaves the condom off soon!

sageviolet- your chart looks great so far!

I'm still spotting! I hope it stops soon:( My worst fear is that they didn't get everything as then I would need another operation AND I wouldn't be able to TTC. I'm really hoping to get a negative test next weekend but when I read on the internet women seem to have such varied experiences and for some it takes months for their fertility to come back. I'm just so excited to start trying again and really want to get pregnant ASAP.

[QueenB3blue]

Junie, I am sorry you are still spotting:( it seemed like I spotted forever after my mc. I think that was one of the hardest parts. I felt like I was waiting to get my body back. It really sucks not knowing what's going on. Seeing a positive pregnancy test week after week was hard. I was really annoyed about having to get weekly blood draws to check my hcg. But it actually helped keep me feel more in tune with my body.

Has anyone seen if tarasue has ovulated yet? I haven't seen a post from here in a while. I know she was on clomid.

I know most of you are waiting to O. Hope you all catch goldie!

5dpo for me. It is funny we already have 9 birthdays in October! But I will take what I can get;)


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[tarasue]

2boys- so sorry your having such hard times. A persons patience as it is is hard to deal with when ttc, after a miscarriage there is no patience left. I keep thinking I should be in my second trimester already, not waiting to get a positive opk... The good thing is that Af lets you know where your at in your cycle so at least your not in limbo. That 1st Af after a mc was a painful beast though, glad that's over!

[XXforhubby]

Junie, I am sorry you are still spotting:( it seemed like I spotted forever after my mc. I think that was one of the hardest parts. I felt like I was waiting to get my body back. It really sucks not knowing what's going on. Seeing a positive pregnancy test week after week was hard. I was really annoyed about having to get weekly blood draws to check my hcg. But it actually helped keep me feel more in tune with my body.

Has anyone seen if tarasue has ovulated yet? I haven't seen a post from here in a while. I know she was on clomid.

I know most of you are waiting to O. Hope you all catch goldie!

5dpo for me. It is funny we already have 9 birthdays in October! But I will take what I can get;)


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We have 7 birthdays in October, but i don't want to skip a month in case that is the only shot I have at getting pregnant. I bet I'll get pregnant in March, because I never wanted to have a December baby! Now, I'll take whatever month at this point!

FX to those waiting to test! It looks like though, most of us are waiting for a positive opk! I think Queen, DJmommy, SageViolet and Tarasue will be the first ones.

Ooh I am so excited for you!!!


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[2boysJustOneGirl]

2boys- so sorry your having such hard times. A persons patience as it is is hard to deal with when ttc, after a miscarriage there is no patience left. I keep thinking I should be in my second trimester already, not waiting to get a positive opk... The good thing is that Af lets you know where your at in your cycle so at least your not in limbo. That 1st Af after a mc was a painful beast though, glad that's over!

Yes this AF was horrible-physically and emotionally but I must say I do feel better everyday that passes. It's hard to be back here tho-I get that completely. I hope you get a +OPK soon! When do you expect it?


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[tarasue]

I was hoping for a positive opk this afternoon and to ovulate tomorrow or Wednesday. If I do ovulate tomorrow and do catch the egg that would put the due date exactly in my mil's birthday...... Not at all what I want, all of October is a bad time for a baby for us. I'm at the point I don't care anymore, I just want to be pregnant and have a baby before December. We waited to ttc all last summer because I didn't want to interfere with some family weddings, I got pregnant in October just like I had planned, but someone else had other plans.... Now I'm not putting it off for anything, now or never baby!!!

We dtd yesterday and I will have one more attempt with + opk, I don't care if we're doing it too much for a pink sway- I just want a baby! I feel like since I used clomid this month, it's a sure thing. Rationally thinking, yes I am crazy and setting myself up for huge disappointment if Af shows up in a couple weeks!

[2boysJustOneGirl]

Grand plans! When is your MILs bday? Mines is October 22 and my ds2 missed it thankfully and arrived in the 28th. I was nervous about that!!! So I understand your concern but I am sure you know babies rarely show up on their exact due date! Good luck with the OPK. Keep us posted!


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[XXforhubby]

Today is my first acupuncture appointment! I am excited! 😃


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[Junie]

Tarasue- That sounds so good, I hope this is your cycle!!
XX- I hope the acupuncture helps!

I'm so thankful to have you all!!! I can't imagine going through all of this and having no one to talk to about it. Of course DH and I talked about the miscarriage and TTC a bit, and a few friends know but it isn't the same at all as being able to chat with ladies who know just exactly how I feel. It is so helpful for me!! So thanks everyone :)

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[QueenB3blue]

Can't wait to hear how the acupuncture goes XX!

Good Luck tarasue! Glad your doing every 4 days, I was thinking clomid makes opk's wonky:-/


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[EmileeJane]

I had 2 rounds of acupuncture to try to get me to ovulate and get my cycle back on track after the shot. It was really neat and oddly relaxing. Enjoy Xx!

[XXforhubby]

I had 2 rounds of acupuncture to try to get me to ovulate and get my cycle back on track after the shot. It was really neat and oddly relaxing. Enjoy Xx!

Did it work for you EmileeJane? I found it very relaxing too!


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[XXforhubby]

Thank you ladies for your support! The acupuncture went very well. It was very relaxing! I could tell it was working though- I felt sensations from the pituitary gland and within my uterus/ovaries. It is hard to explain, but it aroused me from meditating during my session. I almost called out to my practitioner, but I breathed through it instead. I definitely feel like this will steer the ship back on course, but as we know about ocean liners it can take awhile!




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[sageviolet]

Good luck, Tarasue! Yes, I think most of us who have been trying for awhile feel the same way -- forget trying to plan when, let's just have a bfp!

XX, glad you liked the acupuncture! Are you having the weekly cleansing series? When I did it, I needed it every week for 3 weeks supposedly to do an overall cleansing and alignment. After that it was less often and more specifically directed at my symptoms, but I do remember that first one had needles in my abdomen that felt like they were affecting my ovaries or something. One of those really hurt when first put in, very unusual as overall none of the needles hurt and it was relaxing. Maybe it was a sign that something was really off course for me?

I'm 7dpo today and had some crazy cm tonight! It's unusual for me to have so much at this part of the 2ww. Otherwise, not many symptoms, just the same old sore chest. My temp was up nice, but we had a horrible night since dd was having trouble sleeping, so I can't trust it unless the upward trend continues.

[XXforhubby]

I experienced the same thing that you described with the needle in my abdomen. It affected me at first, then I felt sensations where my pituitary gland was and where my ovaries were about 20 minutes into the session. I take it as a good sign too. I have to go twice a week for at least a month, maybe two, them maintenance. He will know more during my next session. He did say I am very in tune with my body, and I may be at maintenance a lot sooner. I guess most people don't feel to the degree I did. FX it works!

I am tightening up the diet as DS2 is weaning himself and should be completely weaned by the start of my next cycle. I was hoping to have BFing as part of my sway but it looks like it won't be. I have to be strict then on the diet and exercise. I am doing more of that now too, since I have added the Yoga in top of my cardio instead of replacing any. Good news is we are approaching Lent (we are Catholic), and I can actually fast since I won't be BFing! That will hopefully offset not BFing to strengthen my sway!

Maiden- you need to PM me about IF! I need some tips getting back into the swing of it again, so it doesn't take me long to get to the full 36 again 😘!


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[Mars]

Hi Ladies! Sorry I have been MIA, Sorry to here some of you have had a hard time. Lets change things and bring lots of positive vibes for the next cycle. I received my OPKs in the mail yesterday so looking forward to using them but I'm also going to BD a lot more this cycle, no more stuffing about! If I did get pregnant in February I would be due on my Birthday lol! I doubt it would happen though as I was induced both times for my boys and they were born 4 weeks early.

[Junie]

Sage- When are you going to test?? I like your symptoms :)

Mars- are you going to do every 4 days? Or more often? Your attitude is great :)

I'm thinking if I get lucky I'll O in a week and a half. As soon as I stop spotting we'll start doing every 4 days.

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[Junie]

XX- the acupuncture sounds really great!!

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[Mars]

Junie I think we will do every 3/4 days. I'm sure my husband won't argue. ;)
Sounds like a few of us will be Oing and testing at the same time.

[sageviolet]

XX, congrats on the self weaning! My dd did it in Dec. I was happy and sad, but overall just so proud of making it so long. <3

Mars, what brand of opks are you using? Let us know how you like them, but I hope I never need another opk, lol.

My temp was up so nice this morning, I'm trying not to get excited. Dd was up in the middle of the night again -- I heard her in her room talking to herself and making owl noises, lol, so it wasn't a good night's sleep, but it seems like it's been awhile since we've had a good night. Anyway, I am not doing the early peeing this time. If things still look good, I'll test on Friday, maybe Saturday. Af is due Sunday. I am unusually calm this cycle because I'm leaning more towards the "I can't get pregnant" mindset, thinking I'll need the specialist we're lined up to see in Feb. (waiting over a month, soonest I could get). Of course I would love to be able to walk in and say I'm preg and get all the early tests and monitoring! But I'm just going to assume nothing is happening yet.

[tarasue]

Grand plans! When is your MILs bday? Mines is October 22 and my ds2 missed it thankfully and arrived in the 28th. I was nervous about that!!! So I understand your concern but I am sure you know babies rarely show up on their exact due date! Good luck with the OPK. Keep us posted!


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MIL's bday is oct. 14th. We have about 5 birthdays in October but as long as I avoid that date I don't care what the due date would be. Never got a positive opk yesterday:(, but it is getting darker. I was real crampy last night and this morning more cramps, tender bb's an ewcm, so hopefully I get a positive today or tomorrow.

[mommymachine]

Maiden I also want to know more about IF. I've done it before but it was a loooong time ago. Do you think it's just as good of a girl sway as LE? Do you still stay within LE limits?

XX - I am Catholic too and this would be a very good fast for lent.


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[djmommy]

I am 6 dpo today and not sure if I will test early. It gets me so down so please keep me grounded and help me not test!!! FX for everyone!! Blue and Pink dust where needed!!:DD::DS:

[QueenB3blue]

6dpo also. Trying not to test until 12dpo. I am really hating the cardio these days!! I don't mind the diet, I just dread the exercise:-/ actually I am really hungry right now and wouldn't mind a cheeseburger;)


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[Wishing-well]

I am also 6dpo, and trying not to cave and test to early as it really sucks with the BFN. Good to see there are others here in the same boat as me. This is my second month TTC, wasn`t going to go overboard with symptom spotting, but the nausea has already arrived, and it is kind off a symptom that is hard not to spot, is it to early or is it possible that the nausea kicks in so early?

Wishing everyone good luck and lots of baby dust for everyone.

[djmommy]

I have been soo hungry the past few days and I attribute it to being on the diet for a while!!
A cheeseburger does sound good!!!!
Wishingwell, sometimes progesterone symptoms can cause symptoms so hopefully its a great sign!! FXFX!

[XXforhubby]

FX for you ladies!!!!


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[tarasue]

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Help please! These are two different opk's.
Babi on top and dollar tree on bottom. Is the bottom one positive? How can they be so different???

[mommymachine]

I don't think it is quite positive yet. But super close!


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[XXforhubby]

I don't think it is quite positive yet. But super close!


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I agree with Mommymachine. I think you are super close! I would test again tonight and in the morning. I bet you'll get a positive within the next day or two.

I have heard the dollar tree opks are more sensitive, but I wouldn't call it a positive yet though.

I am getting excited for you 😘


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[keepthefaith]

Not there yet but not far off x

[Mars]

I'm just using an Ebay cheapie OPK, never used them before so we will see how it goes!

All those on 6dpo...DON'T TEST!!!! Too early...wait another week. You can do it :D :D

[tarasue]

Mars I haven't ovulated yet.... Waiting! 23273
Here's another picture of the dollar tree test, it got a little darker.

I will test again tonight, probably bd, then test again in the morning.

Thanks girls for your help:)

[XXforhubby]

Yay! FX and 🙏 for you!!!!!


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[EmileeJane]

Xx- my last acupuncture appt was 2 weeks ago. She told me IF it was going to make me ovulate it would happen in next 24 to 48 hrs. It didn't happen. But, I ovulated last week for the first time since before November. It could have been the acupuncture starting to regulate my cycle. Either way I will definitely go back for stress relief treatments!
GLAD you enjoyed it!

[essnce629]

Not positive yet Tara. I agree with testing twice a day now.

[djmommy]

I used DT last cycle and got a positive when wondfo was negative. They seems to be very sensitive. GL! It is super close!

[3boyswantinggirl]

I think Im 6dpo and can barely keep my eyes open today. Also incredibly frustrated at nothing. My nipples have been sore for days, and I have a headache. :(
Surely I'm not already feeling AF symptoms?!

[Junie]

I've decided we'll start BDing every 3 days starting in the next few days. It isn't ideal for pink but for my mental health and my relationship with DH I think I have to feel like we did everything to catch the first egg. Who knows I might not even ovulate this cycle but I want to feel like I did everything I could...

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[bluebonnet22]

I've decided we'll start BDing every 3 days starting in the next few days. It isn't ideal for pink but for my mental health and my relationship with DH I think I have to feel like we did everything to catch the first egg. Who knows I might not even ovulate this cycle but I want to feel like I did everything I could...

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I think this is smart. When I got back to swaying pink right after my m/c I didn't know when I'd ovulate so we just DTD every 4 days (instead of 3). My attempts ended up falling on O-4 and ovulation day. I didn't get pregnant that month and I blame myself for being too rigid with the timing. I should have added an attempt at O-1 that month (so 3 days apart) instead of making myself wait until after ovulation to DTD again. I have a happy ending so I can't complain, but let me tell you the first AF after my loss was hard and I regretted the decision to not try harder (with better timing) to catch the first egg so much during the past months. GL to you on catching the first egg!

[QueenB3blue]

Yes Junie:) do what feels right to you! That is awesome you even want to bd that much! My sex drive is completely gone still:( I was exhausted with nerves when trying my first month after my mc. I keep thinking I would miss it.



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[tarasue]

I am wanting a girl but dtd every 3 days and will probably add one if I ever get a positive opk. Being pregnant is more important than a girl to me at this point. We waited until I had one full cycle after my mc and the second I realized my period was starting I regretted waiting that cycle:/. If you have the ok from you doctor and your mentally ready, go for it. For me I just feel a huge void since the miscarriage and feel the quicker that void is filled the quicker I move on. I will always be sad that that baby never had anyone but me and my husband to be excited about him(we didn't know sex, but my 3 year old named him George). I hate that he will never know the love we had for him, even at 8 weeks. He never got loved or snuggled, just a moms body who failed him, vacuumed and is floating in some bio-hazardous waste barrel somewhere... Sorry if that's too much. But I need to get pregnant asap so I'm not focusing on these awful thoughts!

[maidentomother]

Maiden I also want to know more about IF. I've done it before but it was a loooong time ago. Do you think it's just as good of a girl sway as LE? Do you still stay within LE limits?

XX - I am Catholic too and this would be a very good fast for lent.

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I am trying to do IF as well as LE. Last cycle, except for the first 4 fasting days, I fasted completely or very close (under 100 cals for sure) the other fasting days. This cycle so far I've been eating 300-400 cals on my fasting days, bc I can't handle the Soy on an empty stomach and maybe due to AF, too. I also did 2 eating days in a row, the day before AF and CD1. So I'm not perfect. During my 12 hours on eating days, I follow LE rules except I eat more cals. How many more depends on how strictly I fasted. But the aim is to keep what I eat over the course of 2 days around 2200-2800 cals, so I can eat that much on my eating days. I mostly listen to my body.

I do think that IF sways pink, but I don't know if it does so enough to override what you eat. I think it's possible, and if I'm not BFing, and my first is a girl, I will try eating a boy diet while strictly IFing in the future to see what I get. I do think the LE plus IF is theoretically the strongest pink sway (plus clomid & exercise), so for those who already have multiple boys, probably the LE is necessary.

XX, I really need my computer! I can't PM on my tablet unfortunately. And apologies to everyone for going AWOL, I tend to do that during AF. I did read 2 awesome YA books (currently on the 3rd book of the series). It's like the Hunger Games meets the Bachelor plus a sprinkling of Cinderella. I love YA romance! Especially in any sort of fantasy setting, preferably an epic one.

Junie, I think your plan this cycle is great. Fx you catch that first egg.

3boys, Wishing, Queen & dj are testing soonish, exciting. :) And many of us Oing in what, about 10 days? Anyone else O naturally late around CD18 like me? I am hoping the Soy stimulates earlier O this month, especially since going off Vitex may delay it. I want to maximize my chances of a Libra DD over Scorpio. Silly, I know...

[maidentomother]

tarasue, I highly doubt your body failed your angel baby. Almost definitely a chromosomal or mitochondrial defect was to blame considering you've had 2 healthy pregnancies. But I completely understand wanting to get pregnant again ASAP and hope this cycle does the trick for you, Junie, and anyone else who has had a loss recently. Though I'm hoping those of us who have been trying for over 6 months see a BFP soon, too. I do think it will happen for most if not all of us here eventually,.

essnce, I hope DH is sloppy with the condoms. My late DH kept delaying kids and I wish so much that I'd just had kids anyway. It is so frustrating how many men fight having (further) children. Don't our dreams matter too?

[EmileeJane]

Wow bluebonnet! That's amazing! Congrats to you! Enjoy your pregnancy.
3boys- we are pretty close I'm 6 dpo today. I had light cramping yesterday and it was making me think AF. I feel like 5 dpo would really be too soon to be feeling anything. 2 WW is killer. I started out feeling really positive and high hopes of being pregnant Almost through week 1 I'm already losing hope. Ugh.
Fingers crossed for every one in the 2 ww! And good luck to everyone waiting for O and/or BD!

[EmileeJane]

Tarasue- I hope you O soon.
Your post made me so sad. Those must be horrible haunting thoughts for you. Sorry you're feeling bad. Just wondering if you had a counselor to talk to? Even if it was just once or twice. Or what if you did something special like planted a tree for George. A way to turn the sadness into something more positive. I'm not saying you need to move on or not be sad and mourn. I can't imagine having those intense thoughts and that stress. I just want to hug you. I just feel like his short presence with you must be paving the way for something you maybe can't even imagine yet. It could be something amazing. Xoxo

[XXforhubby]

Since I am still BFing, I am just going to fast according to the catholic guidelines during lent. Instead of just fasting on Fridays and Holy days, I'll fast everyday. I used to do that before I had kids- I think that will be better for me than IF right now. I'll be having two small meals that don't add up to one full meal and one full meal a day- 1200-1400 calories a day. I may have to increase if I lose too much. I will completely fast on Fridays and on Holy days though. When I did this before having kids, I lost 10-12lbs during lent!i have about 5-8lbs I could lose without effecting ovulation now, maybe not since I am SO lean. My body fat is the lowest it has ever been at 16-17%! I just have to watch that- it has already taken me a long time to conceive, and I don't want to throw gas on a fire! I will definitely have to keep an eye on things.

FX for ladies waiting to test- BFP and O! CD7 for me....time marches on!


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[Junie]

Bluebonnet- Thanks for your input! I'm so so SO happy everything worked out how it did for you :)

QueenB- The whole first trimester I felt so awful that we barely had sex it has probably been almost a month now and we really never go that long. My hormones are actually making me quite in the mood which is hard because I am still spotting. I think my body just wants me to get pregnant again LOL. I hope you feel better soon!

Tarasue- oh sweetie. I really feel for you. I so hope this is your month.

Maiden- I normally have longer cycles but don't know how this first one will be. Good luck this cycle!!

Emilee- Hang in there!! I'm hoping this is your cycle!

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[tarasue]

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Positive?

[tarasue]

Tarasue- I hope you O soon.
Your post made me so sad. Those must be horrible haunting thoughts for you. Sorry you're feeling bad. Just wondering if you had a counselor to talk to? Even if it was just once or twice. Or what if you did something special like planted a tree for George. A way to turn the sadness into something more positive. I'm not saying you need to move on or not be sad and mourn. I can't imagine having those intense thoughts and that stress. I just want to hug you. I just feel like his short presence with you must be paving the way for something you maybe can't even imagine yet. It could be something amazing. Xoxo

Thanks Emileejane, a tree is a wonderful idea! I am a landscape designer with a degree in horticulture so a tree for my little angel is perfect!! What a beautiful idea! I don't have a counselor at this time, I was seeing someone about a year ago that just kept telling me I probably wouldn't be able to get pregnant because I was in an eating disorder rut..... Well, I got pregnant, but.....

Thank you for the cyber hug though:)

[EmileeJane]

Tarasue- Wow that is perfect! I'm sure you'll know the perfect tree when you see it!
Definitely DON'T go back to that counselor! Sounds like a jerk! You probably need counseling for the counseling you received. Call your OB and ask for names or contact a local birth/postpartum group or doula for names of counselors with special interest in birth. (If you so desire to find one).
I cannot tell if that opk is pos or not. Looks close if it's not. I'd BD! Good luck☆

[XXforhubby]

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Positive?

If it were me, I'd BD! Then BD again in 3 days. FX and 🙏 for you!!!


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[mommymachine]

YEs I think that is positive.

[3boyswantinggirl]

Emilee, it sounds as though we are close with our cycles! I'm 7dpo today and got another BFN, of course. It's still too early to be testing but I can't help myself! My nipples are still sore, although more achy today, not as sharp when I touch them. My back aches and my headache is still there too. Not sure what to make of it all really. I feel pregnant for sure, but it also could be my body going into overdrive because this is my first cycle off the pill. I've fallen pregnant on my first cycle befor though, so anything could happen!