First post... Trying to cultivate a plan!

[dove_love]

Hello lovely ladies!

This is my first time post, been reading for a few months and just starting to put together what I think will be an ok sway for a little girly. My OH and I would be happy with a boy or girl, but because we have a DS already I would like to try to sway for a girl. My only worry is I'm starting to get a little obsessed!!

Right so, I currently weigh around 220 pounds at 5"4 - definitely have some weight to lose. I would like to lose weight anyway before TTC and was considering slimming world but I am guessing this wouldnt be as good for a girl sway, so am thinking - skip breakfast (which I do anyway) cheese spread or jam on white toast for lunch with low fat yoghurt or jelly then pasta bake for dinner. I am always busy working or with my DS so think I will struggle counting all the calories, protein etc of different food so would rather have a sort of set diet if that makes sense!? Please let me know if I am going completely wrong here!

I will also be taking antihistamines, drinking diet coke (asda version) and baby aspirin. I don't think my OH will be into taking that much but will change his diet to whatever he is given lol! He has soup and bread for lunch, skips breakfast usually, and whatever I cook for tea. Is there anything anyone really recommends he takes? Baby aspirin?
We don't BD that often... Maybe 3 times a fortnight although less than that recently as he works odd shifts.

Oh and when we are TTC I will use rephresh ever 3 days and looking at using balance activ- does anyone have any views or experience on this as i know people usually use aci-jel but it's gonna cost quite a bit to get it shipped to UK if balance activ is very much the same??

Right I think that is everything, sorry I have written loads!! Please advise, change and recommend as much as you like!

Also, I have an IUD fitted at the moment, would I be best off getting this out a few months prior to TTC or will it make no difference?

Thank you!! 😊

[angel-pink]

Please don't take baby aspirin the is a list or reasons it's wrong and atomic no longer advises it I recommend you buy a plan off atomic it's so useful with setting it all out for you and your cycle

[maidentomother]

Welcome!

I agree about dropping the aspirin, it barely sways at all anyway. I would also avoid reprhesh or aci-gel, they don't sway much and inhibit conception too strongly.

I'd do the LE diet (buying the meal plan may be good for you, though the daily plan you laid out sounds pretty good to me, provided you keep portion sizes reasonable), 60 min daily cardio if possible (just walking would be fantastic), and do those 2 tactics strictly for 3 months before TTC. Thst alone is a very strong sway.

Is your IUD copper or hormonal?

[dove_love]

Thank you!
The mirena one which is hormonal.
I will not start with the baby aspirin then - is it best avoided for OH too?
I am a little bit concerned about whether I can fit the exercise into my day, would getting up early to do an exercise dvd for an hour be ok?
Thank you
Sophie x

[angel-pink]

Yes avoid for oh as well 1 hour minimum exercise a day cardio Zuma jogging walking (Intense) at least 4 days a week 5 or 6 works better

[atomic sagebrush]

You need to concentrate on the weight loss and DO NOT follow the standard LE Diet that is high in white carbs. It is not going to help you lose weight and at that weight, you are very likely also insulin resistant and a lot of white carbs will backfire on you, raising blood sugar and testosterone and swaying blue. You need to follow one of the diets in this thread. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/9052-swaying-under-special-circumstances-part-3-pcos.html

IT's hard for me to give blanket advice on what to give your DH without knowing more about his age, health, etc.

I've been moving away from baby aspirin in the sways, it didn't seem to help much and the risks outweighed the negligilbe benefits.

It's best to get your IUD out right before TTC and try to catch the first egg or two.

The jellies and antihistamines have been getting disappointing results, I can understand wanting to give them a try the first month or two but should be dropped before other more effective tactics.

Above all else, stick with one attempt! That has gotten great results for us.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you!
The mirena one which is hormonal.
I will not start with the baby aspirin then - is it best avoided for OH too?
I am a little bit concerned about whether I can fit the exercise into my day, would getting up early to do an exercise dvd for an hour be ok?
Thank you
Sophie x

I always recommend exercise for anyone who has any weight to spare. It's one of our most effective sway tactics. Yes, an exercise DVD for an hour would be good.

[maidentomother]

No aspirin for DH either, but both Olive Leaf Extract and Licorice Root are good pink supps for DH. I personally believe it's what the woman does that matters most, but DH taking those supps (either or both), dieting along with you, and doing an hour plus daily exercise (running or biking) all sway pink.

With the Mirena, taking it out 2 weeks before you want to comceive is usually the best plan. Do you know if O on it? Do you get regular periods on it or none at all? What were your cycles like before BC?

An exercise DVD is fine, just make sure it's cardio, NOT at all strength building, and keeps your heart rate up, no breaks, a full 60 minutes minimum, every day if possible.

Atomic makes a good point about insulin resistance (though I am not an expert on how likely it is at your weight, I do agree it is possible), if so the PCOS version of the LE has been getting good results. Losing weight, less cals, low fat, and no snacking will all really help your sway. I would even consider mild intermittent fasting.

[dove_love]

Thank you so much for your responses, I will have a good read through that link - thank you atomic!
My OH and I are both 24, he is at a healthy weight for his height.
I don't have any periods with the mirena and previous to that I had the implant in my arm where I bled for quite long periods of time and before that was pregnant with my son so for over 6 years I have not had a "proper" period!! So I have no idea really about my cycles.
I will really focus on diet and exercise - when I got PG with my son I was a much lower weight but just starting to gain and lots of BD!! So the girl sway makes a lot of sense to me.
Is it worth using only diet and exercise for first cycle after mirena removed or trying with rephresh straight away?
Goodness there is so much information initially to pick through, this forum is brilliant for helping to piece together all of this.
Thank you
S x

[maidentomother]

If you have the full 3 months (or more) of diet + exercise under you belt (excluding any time you take to ease into the diet & exercise as may be necessary), then I wouldn't bother at all with rephresh or anything similar. We think catching the first egg right after coming off hormonal BC, especially progestin-only types like the Mirena, sways pink significantly. So I wouldn't do anything to inhibit conception unnecessarily that first cycle TTC in particular. Or even the next. Just have one attempt at positive OPK, and that along with your time on the diet & exercise is really all you need for an ideal natural sway. Any weight loss before conception will be pink icing on your sway cake - not necessary to get a girl but it will help. I think you have a really fantastic shot at getting a girl!

[HealthyGirl]

What brand OPK are people using here?
I have the clear blue fertility monitor. Is that good ?

Also what's the consensus here as far as timing of BD and frequency. I'm a little lost .
With my son I think we either BD once or 2 x during my ovulation.


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[dove_love]

I will start today easing myself into the diet and exercise, with hope of being ready to go at it hard in February! Hoping to be TTC in May-ish. Will it take a few weeks to ovulate after having the IUD removed or is it different for everybody?

Having looked at the diet I am thinking of adapting my plan:
No breakfast
Lunch: 1 slice whole grain bread, 2pieces cooked frozen chicken chunks, 1 tsp mayo and lots of ice burg lettuce and a banana
Dinner: whole wheat past with kids tomato sauce with peas and broccoli
For drinks I will have diet coke and sugar free squash, I plan to alternate these meals with maybe a jacket potato with butter or a veggie burger in whole grain wrap if that's an ok thing?
Can I still have muller lights and sugar free jellies?

I will also exercise, mostly in the morning, for an hour. Doing a cardio dvd.

I'm just looking forward to losing weight initially! Lol :-)

Thank you

S x

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes I think diet, exercise, and first cycle after Mirena (with one attempt) is a great sway. I would NOT use RepHResh, the results have been totally neutral with much lower odds of conception and so you're trading the benefits of that first month (because you prob. will not get pg using the RepH) for something that doesn't work at all (RepHResh)

[atomic sagebrush]

What brand OPK are people using here?
I have the clear blue fertility monitor. Is that good ?

Also what's the consensus here as far as timing of BD and frequency. I'm a little lost .
With my son I think we either BD once or 2 x during my ovulation.


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Wondfo. I personally don't like the CBFM, I think it makes tons of trouble for people, but some gals like theirs.

There is no consensus, it all depends on your unique set of circumstances and what is right for one person may not be good for somebody else. Timing doesn't work, so set that one aside. Stick with one attempt, that has gotten good results for us.

[atomic sagebrush]

I will start today easing myself into the diet and exercise, with hope of being ready to go at it hard in February! Hoping to be TTC in May-ish. Will it take a few weeks to ovulate after having the IUD removed or is it different for everybody?

Having looked at the diet I am thinking of adapting my plan:
No breakfast
Lunch: 1 slice whole grain bread, 2pieces cooked frozen chicken chunks, 1 tsp mayo and lots of ice burg lettuce and a banana
Dinner: whole wheat past with kids tomato sauce with peas and broccoli
For drinks I will have diet coke and sugar free squash, I plan to alternate these meals with maybe a jacket potato with butter or a veggie burger in whole grain wrap if that's an ok thing?
Can I still have muller lights and sugar free jellies?

I will also exercise, mostly in the morning, for an hour. Doing a cardio dvd.

I'm just looking forward to losing weight initially! Lol :-)

Thank you

S x

Different for everyone.

Diet sounds great, but do add them up to be sure you're getting enough. It looks too low in fat to me.

Yes many people eat muller lights and sugar free jellies.

[dove_love]

This is probably a really stupid question but how do you know when you are ovulating? Just using a monitor or something? Sorry I am in completely unfamiliar territory!!
I will try to find an app that monitors my nutrients so that I can keep track of what I'm putting in.
Maybe eating a full fat yoghurt or some cheese to bump up fat.

S x

[atomic sagebrush]

Some people use temping/charting but that is really more useful only to know, in retrospect, if you did ovulate, not that helpful at predicting it. Some people will have a temp rise, then a dip that can signal O but not everyone gets this, and it has a poopy way of disappearing the one month you're ready to start TTC. :/

Most people use OPK strips or fertility monitors. But if you have a regular cycle, count back 14 days from when you get AF and that is a ballpark.

Symptoms also can help pinpoint O. Don't read too much into those but your cervical position and stuff can help - but it takes months of observation to learn how it all works for you and unfortunately, swaying tends to change that. I believe OPK are the most reliable. :)

[skillet04]

Just wanted to chime in that my sister had mirena removed in dec after full 5 yrs and her ob/gyn advised at least one menses before allowing conception so lining returns to what it should be to support implantation. Hope her professional advice can help someone.

Go pink!

[atomic sagebrush]

Just wanted to chime in that my sister had mirena removed in dec after full 5 yrs and her ob/gyn advised at least one menses before allowing conception so lining returns to what it should be to support implantation. Hope her professional advice can help someone.

Go pink!

Welll...I may not be a professional but I play one on TV LOL. I do think that in terms of swaying, it's best to try and catch that first egg if you can.

5 years is QUITE a long time for a Mirena, however - most of us have only had for a year or two. If a person has had it in that long, it may very well make sense to wait.

Do note, though, that it takes many people more than 2 weeks to ovulate and start AF again after MIrena removal, esp. if it's been in there a long time. My thinking is, if you have been waiting like 2 months to get AF to come back, TTC is fine and safe either way because your body will have had the time to recover from the Mirena.

[smarston3]

Omg! I had my mirena removed on 1/9..(had it for 2 1/2 years)I stated diet, exercise 1/1..I bleed for a week when iud was removed and having very weird spotting now..wasn't planning on attempt in until April, thinking I needed three good periods to track before attempting..someone please help! Should I be using OPK's now and see if I can catch the egg? Or stick to original plan of April after diet, exercise for 12 weeks?? Please help!


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[dove_love]

Hopefully atomic can answer your question smar! Not sure if longer on the diet would sway better than just a mirena removal although u would have been doing diet like 5 weeks now. Have u not ovulated since mirena was removed yet? X

[maidentomother]

I would definitely wait the full 12w, as diet sways more than coming off BC.

[smarston3]

Thanks ladies! I'm freaking out! I haven't "felt" a thing since iud removed. I had a period the week before removal and then bled for 6 days immediately after removal....then, this weekend I started having funky spotting..thinking this should be my normal time to start..but, again, not a single symptom of ovulation. I even commented to DH about how I felt like I didn't have a uterus. As women, we normally can tell where we're are in our cycle and I felt nothing. Until this funkiness started


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[atomic sagebrush]

Omg! I had my mirena removed on 1/9..(had it for 2 1/2 years)I stated diet, exercise 1/1..I bleed for a week when iud was removed and having very weird spotting now..wasn't planning on attempt in until April, thinking I needed three good periods to track before attempting..someone please help! Should I be using OPK's now and see if I can catch the egg? Or stick to original plan of April after diet, exercise for 12 weeks?? Please help!


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I'd try to catch the egg. there is NO benefit to tracking cycles, it's an old outdated idea that hasn't helped.

My advice would have been to start diet before having Mirena removed, though.

My crystal ball is in the shop so I really can't say if Mirena w/out diet is better than diet alone. Not enough info.

[smarston3]

Ok. I have wondfo strips being delivered on Thursday.


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[smarston3]

Oh, and I hope I didn't miss the egg. Hoping my lack of symptoms means I didn't


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[dove_love]

Oo good luck smarston! X

[atomic sagebrush]

good luck!

[dove_love]

Here's a question, if I am going to try and catch my first egg, would it be better to leave out the FR and to boost the chance of catching it or is it still ok to do FR? X

[atomic sagebrush]

Are you getting off birth control or???

I don't think any of the frequency patterns are working. I think all they're really doing is cutting odds of conception without bringing much to the table.

[dove_love]

Yes I am coming off mirena, I have been on it for maybe 2 years now and looking to have it removed April time. I have no signs of ovulation since having the IUD. Hoping to catch the first egg as that sways pink I believe?
I should not worrying about getting DH to FR too religiously then? X

[smarston3]

good luck sophiebj2! and sorry that i hijacked your thread..i was in panic mode! (explains why i have three boys already)

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes I am coming off mirena, I have been on it for maybe 2 years now and looking to have it removed April time. I have no signs of ovulation since having the IUD. Hoping to catch the first egg as that sways pink I believe?
I should not worrying about getting DH to FR too religiously then? X

Then yes I would try to catch the first egg if you can

[skillet04]

Just wanted to update that I'm happy for my sister..she has had two 28 day cycles since mirena removed...and we both are pcos so again happy for my sister....hope that happiness spreads to other ladies ttcing!

[atomic sagebrush]

thanks for update!

[skillet04]

Re update on my sis who had her iud removed in dec...she announced last Friday that she is pregnant and due in dec 2015... She has twin girls all ready and I'm throwing out a guess that this will be a boy because she has been working out with a personal trainer, taking vitamin d supp with synthroid as per her previous ob/gyn , and according to when she conceived it was just after the full moon.... But time will tell (not that she was swaying she doesn't care about that sorta thing)

[atomic sagebrush]

That's so exciting!! GL!!

[skillet04]

Re update on my sis who had her iud removed in dec...she announced last Friday that she is pregnant and due in dec 2015... She has twin girls all ready and I'm throwing out a guess that this will be a boy because she has been working out with a personal trainer, taking vitamin d supp with synthroid as per her previous ob/gyn , and according to when she conceived it was just after the full moon.... But time will tell (not that she was swaying she doesn't care about that sorta thing)


Ok so everything I read here is wrong. My sister just sent a picture of her twin 5 yr olds holding the sonogram photo and pink cupcakes with a sign that says their family is growing pinker

I'm devastated.....now my sister has had 3 girls....me 2 boys....one for each husband

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Ugh I could just cry for you


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[atomic sagebrush]

Aw I'm sorry it didn't go her way - but that doesn't mean it can't still happen for you!!