In pain and confused (bowel related)

[eleena2014]

Not pregnancy related but I need help and advise if anyone has any.
I've had a few bouts of constipation on and off for a few years .when I had a miscarriage I was put on antibiotics,I noticed these made my poo quite tarry and they made by bottom sore as I was going quite a lot when on them. Anyway a few days before my second cycle,I had really bad back pains,the same as what I had when I was having miscarriage. I thought it would go away after af but it didn't and my constipation Got worse. I passed a v hard stool and pretty sure I tore as there was blood on the paper. Since I have been having the feeling of wanting to go but nothing coming out, I passed a bowel movement on Tuesday but as far as I can remember nothing since. I am now Also having spasms.and pain in my rectum and pain in my thighs.taken 2 senokot tablets and waiting for them to work. What's happening to my body??? I can't get in to doctors till Thursday

[atomic sagebrush]

I think you need to go into the minor emergency on Monday because you may have a bowel impaction. That is not normal and needs to be addressed before Thursday.

[maidentomother]

I would try an enema but if it's that bad you might need to go to the ER. Once you get really backed up, very little helps. I'm chronically constipated and only by doing my best to prevent constipation am I able to keep on top of it. Fiber, lots of colace, and drinking lots of water. Caffeine or better yet coffee helps too. But these only prevent, like I said. I have had hemorrhoids for over a decade too so feel your pain!

[eleena2014]

Oh I hate hospitals so much

[Mulberry Smurf]

Would definitely aim to see a doctor but the advice above is good in the meantime too. boiling water with a little sugar and lemon can help as well to ease constipation. I get leg pains just before my period so may be that? Xx

[eleena2014]

Def not my period. With try the lemon and sugar

[eleena2014]

Tried the water and lemon and it worked. But Oh by God it hurt. And think I've tore as there is quite a lot of blood on toilet paper

[nuthinbutpink]

It's not that big of a deal to have a small tear that causes bleeding. Are you on a high fiber diet and drinking plenty of water? Those two things will help with constipation. Lots of water.

[eleena2014]

No Im not,I have no idea what to do. Any info would be so much appreciated as I don't want to keep going through this. I don't drink any water so I need to start doing that. I can't have cereal on le. Diet can I? The only fruit I like is bananas but I've heard they can cause constipation. I can eat veg x

[essnce629]

Try to drink like 80oz of water a day. Try eating a handful of prunes and pumpkin seeds daily. The pumpkin seeds are high in magnesium and magnesium is a natural laxative. Also, do you have any magnesium supplements? I take 400mg a day which keeps me regular, but a higher dose will cause looser stools-- 800mg or more. Put vaseline around the area to keep from getting itchy and sore.

[XXforhubby]

I would do lots of water, take a fiber supplement (I do Metamucil twice a day before meals), and any fruit will be good. If you don't like much fruit, you can mix 1 cup of frozen mixed berries with 1/2 cup of vanilla yogurt. This can help get fruit in and still be girl diet friendly. An apple a day is good too, with the skin. I have mine with a tablespoon of almond butter, to make it go down easier. If you don't like, or are not used to plain water, you can cut up two lemons and place in a pitcher of water. This will flavor the water for you and may make it easier to drink. Plus, it will help with the constipation too! I have used an orange and 2 limes as well, and it makes the water very tasty!

I think if you incorporate these changes, you'll notice a difference!


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[eleena2014]

Can you take magnesium supplements for a girl sway?

[coocoobananas]

Prunes! Like 8 of them! I had terrible hemmoroids after this last pregnancy and constipation:/ prunes seemed to do the trick! It will be painful til you get things going for a bit:/

[maidentomother]

Fiber: ground psyllium husks (mix 3-4 teaspoons with enough water to make a thick slurry, drink before each meal so 2-3x daily), wholegrain rye bread, wholemeal bread/pasta etc generally, apples, pears, clementines, raspberries, blackberries, leafy green veg, broccoli, brussel sprouts, artichokes, yogurt with inulin, watermelon in summer (great for fluid, too)

Fluids: I also don't drink enough water (don't like how it tastes), but if you don't mind diet drinks or herbal tea, those will work also. Very lightly sweetened sparkling water is my preferred beverage, and such drinks are in fashion right now. Or you can dilute lemonade or juice with sparkling water. Even drinking hot broth made from bouillon powder/****s. Just any way you can up your fluid intake. Skim milk is good as part of your totals, I have way more than necessary with my non fortified cereal to sneak in extra water.

Supps: colace is the only thing I find safe and effective to take every day long term while TTC. I take 50mg morning and night. Sometimes I increase it to 3x daily but then I run the risk of having explosive diarrhea so it's a fine line. Magnesium citrate is fine for pink and supposedly helpful for constipation but it doesn't seem to do anything for me no matter how much I take (I think I've taken a max of 5 teaspoons in a glass of water at a time).

I consider the matter under control if I go at least twice a week and don't see blood. In my case the constipation is mostly caused by being on high dose strong opiates constantly, and my dose fluctuates quite a bit, which means the effect on my bowels does, too. Eating less, eating lowfat, and eating less frequently & not snacking make the situation worse as well, unfortunately.

Oh and exercise, even just walking a bit daily, really helps tremendously. Especially the serious 60+ min of cardio. I've never had problems when running or walking long distance daily.

[QueenB3blue]

Don't forget to ease into the fiber supplement. I experienced some of the worst cramping ever from gas when I started off with the higher doses! Hope you get better quick!!


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[nuthinbutpink]

Drink water! I agree with the others about a fiber supplement.

[maidentomother]

Good point Queen. Same with the colace or any laxative, they must be gradually introduced starting from smallest recommended dose. Wait 3 days before increasing the dose, otherwise you create a very painful scenario in which you have rock hard feces blocking the exit with a bunch of softer or liquid feces + gas applying pressure. It can't get out so it pushes in all directions against your intenstines. You can even have hard rocks mixed in with explosive diarrhea which is horrible as well as painful. TMI perhaps but it happens whenever I'm not patient enough and increase my colace impulsively.

Drinking more water and exercising won't cause the aforementioned issues but require more effort/motivation.

[atomic sagebrush]

DO NOT start fiber now. that will be throwing gasoline on a fire. Taking a laxative and having nothing happen is serious and may need medical attention especially if you're having such severe pain, so don't "poopoo" it LOL Fiber can help over time, but right now the last thing you need is more bulk on top of what's already in there.

[atomic sagebrush]

If you took two laxatives and nothing happened I think you need medical attention. It says it right on the box of the laxatives. I obviously can't make you do this and so one thing that has helped me in the past is Alo brand Aloe drink, it works really well after having a baby. Another thing some people have found to help is to (wearing rubber gloves) actually use your finger to clear out the blockage and get things going, but you can hurt yourself doing this if you really are impacted.

[atomic sagebrush]

Can you take magnesium supplements for a girl sway?

Right now you need to not worry about your sway and get this taken care of, if they help you, then yes use them.

[eleena2014]

The laxatives or the lemon/water worked. But I still had cramps this morning. I am ovulating at the moment so it might be related to that. I still have this constant lower back pain that I need to see the doctor about. Brought some pumpkin seeds today and Also benefiber

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh I"m glad! The crampiness does sound like O pains.

[eleena2014]

I've only started having bad ovulation pains Since the d&c. Never had them that bad before this 😩

[atomic sagebrush]

I never had them till I was 25 years old and then they were only bad a few times a year, over time they have gotten worse and worse and now it's the exception when I DON'T have bad ones. things change as we get older.

[eleena2014]

No fun getting older is it? Lol. I had a word with by doctor and she said the lower back pain could be due to the constipation I have been having. I Also have been getting pain in ovary / pelvic area when bearing down for a bowel movement.she wants to see me nxt week to check my belly e.t.c

[atomic sagebrush]

IF it is covered by insurance then that is fine, if you're going to have to shell out big bucks to do that I would have you stay home because I think that at least part of this is O pain related. I get terrible low back pains around ovulation and I also have intense pains when bearing down for BM around ovulation. It's just the O pain and how it manifests itself. I hate to see you spend money for something that they're not going to even know what is happening (doctors are crap at diagnosing stuff like this)

[eleena2014]

Im in the uk so it's free.lol

[maidentomother]

Are things still coming along? Provided you've had multiple large BMs at this point and can keep them happening every couple days at the least, I think you will be okay.

I also very rarely had O pain in my teens to early twenties, but it started happening more and more frequently from my mid twenties on. I'm 33 now and for the past few years I get O pain usually every single cycle. I've heard so many similar stories that I'm positive O pain increases in frequency and often severity too with age.

[eleena2014]

Im not sure What's going on maidenmother.lol. I had normal bowel movements Mon, Tues and today. Today I had pain before I went,and I tore again as there was blood on the toilet paper,it just seems like it's not healing as I keep tearing.
I don't know that it's ovulation pains as it occurs all through by cycle.

[maidentomother]

That sounds very much improved. Well done! :) Even with everything I do to prevent it, I still sometimes have a hard time and some pain. But I find that if most of the time my BMs are okay, I will still heal pretty quickly despite occasional hard BMs. I do have a hemorrhoid though so I rarely heal completely, but I take what I can get. If in 2w you're still having pain, then I might get checked for a 'rhoid.

I have O-pain-like twinges all cycle long. O pain doesn't just occur during O...you can feel pain while the follicles are maturing leading up to O and while thr corpus luteum is active after O. I can have some type of discomfort in my ovary/ies more days of my cycle than not! For me personally, though, I very rarely am unable to distinguish between intestinal distress vs O pain. They feel very different to me. But they CAN feel indistinguishable.

[atomic sagebrush]

I also get O pains all through the cycle many times starting right after AF and going (more mild luckily) 5-7 days after O, then I start getting AF cramps LOL!

The thing we just want you to understand is that the doctor will not be able to "see" the O pains and is going to run all kinds of scary and invasive tests probably unneccessarily, I understand it's covered by NHS but please don't wory that you're dying or something. They'll look for cancer, etc. and it can be terrifying, and to me it sounds exactly like O pain and they're not going to be able to tell that anyway.

the bleeding after a BM sounds like a tear and it will go away over time, but that's not what you were describing before.

[eleena2014]

went to see the doctor and she said it could be ibs. she wants to do blood test to rule things out.
she couldnt examine me internally as im still sore.
she wants me to eat brown bread,rice and pasta.how bad is this for le diet???

[nuthinbutpink]

How much water are you drinking per day?

[eleena2014]

i struggle just to drink a glass,i dont like the taste,if i mixed it in vimto would it be ok?

[maidentomother]

I would seriously force yourself to chug 8oz every hour you're awake, on the hour. I also have to force myself to drink water.

[eleena2014]

Doesn't diluted juice count?? Also does anyone know how bad the brown rice,pasta and bread is for le diet?

[nuthinbutpink]

Until you start drinking water, the bowel problem has no reason at all to go away. The end.

[maidentomother]

Yes diluted juice counts! I used to do that, like 20% juice.

I think whole grains are fine for LE. Until rather recently, I.e. for most of human history, grains were left whole and still girls were born. I personally consume mostly whole grains.

[essnce629]

Yes, you have to drink water. 60+ ounces a day ideally. Get some different flavors of Crystal Light packets and experiment with which flavors you like. I guarantee you'll end up drinking a lot more water and it's good for your girl sway!

[eleena2014]

Don't think we have crystal light in the uk do we?

[bunnywabbit]

We don't, no. I'm not sure if it's the same thing but we have no added sugar squash which has added sweetener (not sure which), just dilute it down.

I use banana, both for me (I was really bad during pregnancy and after) and DS who's 7 months old. Works really well. That aside, you MUST get some water intake. What about fruit tea? Would that work for you? x

[atomic sagebrush]

went to see the doctor and she said it could be ibs. she wants to do blood test to rule things out.
she couldnt examine me internally as im still sore.
she wants me to eat brown bread,rice and pasta.how bad is this for le diet???

Not bad at all for LE Diet. Don't worry about it.

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes diluted juice counts! I used to do that, like 20% juice.

I think whole grains are fine for LE. Until rather recently, I.e. for most of human history, grains were left whole and still girls were born. I personally consume mostly whole grains.

White vs. whole grains is one of two things I have in my "maybe, maybe not" category where I can really see both sides and am honestly not totally sure if I have them right. We have been getting good results with the alt. diets for pink (which include whole grains) and so I know that it's not a blue magic bullet to be sure.