Having trouble knowing what i can eat

[Mum4life]

I am having a lot of trouble knowing what i can eat, or more what to make for dinner to stick with the LE guidelines. I also have PCOS, but blood sugar and insulin levels are fine atm. Last check they were 3.3 which is a little low. Help!

[Sarah4girl]

For dinners I ate a lot of brown rice or brown pasta with stir fried vegetables. With a bit of pasta sauce, or low fat cream cheese or a sprinkle of Edam cheese. There is a thread going at the moment titled 'let's record what were eating' with some more meal ideas. Good luck


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[maidentomother]

There is also the PCOS LE Diet what we are eating thread. What do you normally eat for dinner? Usually you can eat mostly the carb + veggie parts with a little cheese or maybe white fish/chicken/pork since you have PCOS. You don't need to and probably shouldn't go completely veggie with PCOS.

[Mum4life]

Thank you! I am a big red meat eater, so usually for dinner we have some kind of meat, with vegetables and pasta/some other carb dish, or a chicken pasta bake/stirfry etc but now i have started this i am a bit stumped lol.. typical boy diet for sure!

[Linzshine32]

I did the PCOS version and I am not PCOS but I ate a ton of brown rice. Like a ton. (Uncle bens i think has a chicken flavored one that helped). and I also had lots of hint of salt wheat thins and triscuits. Baked potato with margerine also!! I did eat grilled chicken it was was the only meat I ate.

[maidentomother]

Then what I would do, if DH is okay with it, is stop red meat completely and just stick to poultry/white fish/shellfish/pork or cheese/eggs as a protein source at dinner. Make normal meals but try to reduce the fat when possible (and if you can, replace butter and olive oil with safflower or canola oil) , and just eat smaller portions and more of the veg/carb, less of the protein. But you will need more protein and fat than non PCOS swayers. I would definitely stick to whole grains and avoid white/refined grains except in small amounts. You should be able to modify most stir fries and bakes to fit this, and just pick stuff out as necessary.

Depending on how you eat at breakfast/lunch, you could possibly even continue cooking the same meals for dinner, just eat smaller portions and no red meat. Play around with your daily totals and see.

Your dinners sound delicious! Which does seem to automatically mean boy friendly, alas. But you will get used to eating pink and hey, it's a chance to experiment with new recipes! I like soups and loaded salads especially, as they can be nice and filling while still low cal. Remember that you can eat an unlimited amount of low cal veggies like iceberg lettuce, zucchini, green beans, broccoli, kale, celery, mushrooms, eggplant, cucumber, leeks, etc.

[Mum4life]

I already do eat wholegrains :) DH is willing to give up red meat.. he said as long as he can have bacon he doesn't care lol. Another thing is, i have to have breakfast, there is no getting away from it. If i don't i feel like i will faint and my stomach starts eating itself lol i usually skip lunch, but since starting this i have been really hungry so i have been having wraps with a sprinkling of chicken, iceberg lettuce and a sprinkling of cheese with low fat dressing. Ohh and breakfast before starting this was a piece of wholegrain toast with vegemite and a bowl of fibre rich cereal. I've cut the cereal since i know that sways boy

[Mum4life]

Does that mean sweet and sour chicken with rice is ON the menu? ;)

[Linzshine32]

I forgot to add I also had a salad almost every day for lunch (From panera) but just lettuce, cucumber and chicken on it.... and if i had a salad for lunch i made sure to have no more chicken the rest of the day. I also only had 1 glass of whole milk a day (I used to drink like 4 glasses of 1% a day). If I didn't feel like salad I would have a brown rice bowl with chicken and cheese from chipotle but not every day as it was at the upper end of my protein limit.

I also drank coke zero and crystal lite - and peppermint tea in the morning with 2 splenda.

[atomic sagebrush]

bump this for me

[Sunbuny]

Mum4life - I have been avoiding Vegemite even though I love it. I don't know if I read somewhere or if I just made the assumption that it was high in vitamins so I avoid. I also avoid peanut butter because of the protein.


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[maidentomother]

I would avoid vegemite since it is high in B vitamins.

Sweet and sour chicken can stay on the menu though. Yum!

Some pink swayers do eat breakfast. 3 meals a day is okay. I would try to eat breakfast as late as you can and dinner as early as possible, so you have at least 12 hours overnight without food. You might find with time you CAN skip breakfast, just by eating it 15-30 min later each day. Your body will likely adjust. Just do the best you can!

[HealthyGirl]

Maidenmother you say to eat whole grains and avoid white/refined grains.
I was under the assumption that white rice is ok to eat.

Can someone please clarify since I eat lots of white rice.


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[Mum4life]

I usually leave 14hrs between dinner and breakfast, so this is ok?? I love vegemite, wah! oh well lol... what other spreads would be ok to use? cream cheese?

[smarston3]

Interested to know about the white rice too. Going to do a major LE diet grocery shop tomorrow


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[XXforhubby]

My understanding is either white or brown rice is fine. The only difference would be if someone does not have insulin resistance or PCOS, white rice would be a better option because it is lower in nutrients. If someone has insulin resistance or PCOS, they would need to eat brown rice because it keeps glucose levels more stable. Lastly, if someone has been swaying for several months without a BFP or is suffering from infertility they could chose either white or brown rice. In this situation, there are two schools of thought to improve fertility- one being gluten free carbs with white rice being the best option, and the second being whole grains to boost fertility with brown rice being the best option.

HTH!


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[maidentomother]

Maidenmother you say to eat whole grains and avoid white/refined grains.
I was under the assumption that white rice is ok to eat.

Can someone please clarify since I eat lots of white rice.


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The wholegrain advice is for swayers with PCOS ONLY. White rice and other refined grains are fine, possibly even superior, for pink swayers without PCOS/IR/obesity.

[maidentomother]

I usually leave 14hrs between dinner and breakfast, so this is ok?? I love vegemite, wah! oh well lol... what other spreads would be ok to use? cream cheese?

Cream cheese is fine, I'd advise lowfat for most pink swayers but for you regular is probably better. Jam/jelly and peanut or almond butter are okay, too, but if you go with those latter two I'd spread them lightly. (Non-PCOS swayers, I wouldn't advise nut butter consumption daily but now and then is fine.) Also thinly spread margarine is an option.

14 Hours overnight good!

[HealthyGirl]

Thanks.
Is soy milk ok to have 1x or 2x a week in my mocha?


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[maidentomother]

Yes :)

[HealthyGirl]

Thanks


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[atomic sagebrush]

Does that mean sweet and sour chicken with rice is ON the menu? ;)

yes

[atomic sagebrush]

I forgot to add I also had a salad almost every day for lunch (From panera) but just lettuce, cucumber and chicken on it.... and if i had a salad for lunch i made sure to have no more chicken the rest of the day. I also only had 1 glass of whole milk a day (I used to drink like 4 glasses of 1% a day). If I didn't feel like salad I would have a brown rice bowl with chicken and cheese from chipotle but not every day as it was at the upper end of my protein limit.

I also drank coke zero and crystal lite - and peppermint tea in the morning with 2 splenda.

Linz did a great job with the alt diet and IMO did it perfectly. :)

[atomic sagebrush]

not sure if you saw this thread already http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/9052-swaying-under-special-circumstances-part-3-pcos.html

rE breakfast, if you need it, EAT IT. It is just one thing that may help a bit. I think you would benefit from eating pure protein in the morning such as ****d cheese or egg whites. No carbs for you at breakfast. :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Mum4life - I have been avoiding Vegemite even though I love it. I don't know if I read somewhere or if I just made the assumption that it was high in vitamins so I avoid. I also avoid peanut butter because of the protein.


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I have it in a "something to avoid" category but it is fine a couple times a week. Everything is fine a couple days a week.

[atomic sagebrush]

Maidenmother you say to eat whole grains and avoid white/refined grains.
I was under the assumption that white rice is ok to eat.

Can someone please clarify since I eat lots of white rice.


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There are two forms of the diet and I do not know which is better.

Some information has it that everyone with PCOS or fertility challenges should have only whole grains and never white.

Other information has it that people with PCOS or fertility challenges should go gluten free and in this situation it is ok to have white rice and in fact desirable as the brown rice may not be ideal for fertility.

Both sets of information make biological sense to me, both from very reputable sources based on good research and logic, and thus it is something that I personally do not know which is best so must leave it up to each individual.

My suspicion is that there is a genetic component at play and it may be that those who can't tolerate gluten well, are going to do better with the white rice, and those who have more extensive insulin resistance are going to do better with the whole grains. But there is no way to really generalize it more than that and we've been seeing good results with both variants.

[atomic sagebrush]

I usually leave 14hrs between dinner and breakfast, so this is ok?? I love vegemite, wah! oh well lol... what other spreads would be ok to use? cream cheese?

Vegemite a couple times a week is fine. Cream cheese is also fine. Peanut butter a couple tiems a week, hummus, margarine all ok

[Mum4life]

Thanks atomic! I will try with the protein in the morning.. i can usually only stomach toast or cereal lol but i will fiddle with things and see how i go. Linz do you have your sway attempt up somewhere??

[Mum4life]

Ok, so i am thinking scrambled egg whites for breakfast now lol. I can handle some eggs.. just not meat. No meat for breakfast ugh lol

[atomic sagebrush]

WHere PCOS is concerned you can actually go with one or two whole egg a day, for the most part. You will need to be getting more of your cals from fats and proteins, fewer from carbs, and egg whites are SOO low cal I fear you'd quickly go over on protein and have not enough cals for the day.

[Mum4life]

I actully did find that yesterday atomic.. after dinner i had only had 1100 calories, so had to find something to bump it up

[skillet04]

There is also the PCOS LE Diet what we are eating thread. What do you normally eat for dinner? Usually you can eat mostly the carb + veggie parts with a little cheese or maybe white fish/chicken/pork since you have PCOS. You don't need to and probably shouldn't go completely veggie with PCOS.

Would appreciate a link to the thread where pcosers are sharing their meals eaten. TIA

[atomic sagebrush]

Does anyone have time to look this up?? several have asked me about this the last couple days

[XXforhubby]

Let's record what we're eating to help each other (http://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47163)


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[skillet04]

No I think it actually has pcos in the thread title...the one linked above is people who can eat carbs out the wazoo and still have monthly menses....

[XXforhubby]

No I think it actually has pcos in the thread title...the one linked above is people who can eat carbs out the wazoo and still have monthly menses....

Gotcha! Here is the link to the special diets- PCOS and fertility.

Swaying under special circumstances Part 3 PCOS (http://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?t=9052)


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[skillet04]

I took time to go through several pages and found http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-girl/47264-le-diet-pcos.html

Hths

[atomic sagebrush]

thank you guys!