vitex and cm?

[XXdreaming]

Is it supposed to cause more cm? I don't have a lot of cm, never been a big producer of it, but started taking vitex (af to o) and o is like tomorrow or next day but I am having to wear a pantyliner(sorrry tmi) because its gushing out of me, I will be taking zyrtec to dry it up next month but wondering if I should opt out with vitex since even though it sways pink more cm would probably be boy territory for me, what you think?

[atomic sagebrush]

Hmmm, that is interesting!!!

I hate to tell you to stop taking vitex because I do know a lot of people have had success with it, but on the other hand, if it's making you churn out the ol' CM, maybe it's best to give it a pass.

You also have the option of taking vitex every day for a month or two when you AREN'T TTC (so from AF-AF, not stopping at O) and then quitting it cold turkey in the month of your attempt. Some people have had success with that.

[XXdreaming]

that sounds like a plan, so I will continue it out to af and then not do it all next month, I guess its better than nothing lol but wow I thought af started or something with the first gush lol (sorry tmi) I was thinking man did vitex screw my cycle up that much lol

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks for sharing though, I wrote this in my notes. Very helpful to everyone!!!

I've been playing around with Vitex to restore my cycles when breastfeeding and now that you mention it, I think I've had some more CM than I normally do...wonder if I ovulated?? That would be exciting, but bad news for vitex!

[zanacal]

I have had alot of CM these past couple of months too but I had the Mirena before that so I have nothing pre-Vitex that I can remember to compare it to.

[zanacal]

OK, it's a definite, I have masses of EWCM on CD9 which is exactly the same as last month - so not only am I churning out masses of EWCM, I'm doing it early in my cycle and I'm doing it regularly. Argh!

[atomic sagebrush]

Is the antihistamine helping??

[zanacal]

I haven't taken it yet as we're not ttc - I'll give it a try tomorrow and see if it helps.

[zanacal]

How long should it take to have an effect? I took a Zyrtec about 1 hr 20 mins ago and just checked to see if it was helping - and it's worse! I pulled out a massive glob. So much so that it looked like I'd been using Rephresh when I haven't. My attempt is next month and I've been low-everything for 3 months. What can I do?!

[XXdreaming]

I read you can take benedryl with zyrtec, but other than that I don't have a clue unless you stop vitex next month, atomic said some ladies did that with good success in having girls,

[zanacal]

Thanks melinda. The Zyrtec didn't seem to do much and I took another one this morning before work and have struggled to stay awake all day - they're not meant to be drowsy but I certainly am! Of course that could be an 'off' day down to some other reason (like lack of nutritious food lol!) but it's a coincidence if that's the case.

The Zyrtec may have helped a little - tmi but I don't feel 'damp' the whole time like I did yesterday but when I check there's no shortage of EWCM, although perhaps a little less EW-y! I will take benedryl on the night of our attempt too but I've read that one really does make you drowsy so I don't want to use it before I have to!

I'm taking the Vitex every day AF-AF this cycle and will stop at O next cycle when we ttc. I don't want to stop taking it all together though because I may not get pregnant on our first attempt (in fact, I think it's unlikely!).

[XXdreaming]

I will probably have to do the same(zyrtec and benedryl), I thought about quiting but then if I conceive and its another boy I will beat myself up with "what if I took vitex would it of been a girl" lol so I am covering everything I know so when I do conceive and its another boy then hopefully I will feel confident that I did my best and tried it all lol

[atomic sagebrush]

How long should it take to have an effect? I took a Zyrtec about 1 hr 20 mins ago and just checked to see if it was helping - and it's worse! I pulled out a massive glob. So much so that it looked like I'd been using Rephresh when I haven't. My attempt is next month and I've been low-everything for 3 months. What can I do?!

Well, your body was already producing the CM, it takes a little time for it to stop. You might want to try the Zyrtec BEFORE you get the CM.

[zanacal]

Thanks Atomic. It turns out I only had that 1 day of crazy EWCM anyway. I've had some crampy feelings like I usually get around O but not much at all and I still haven't had a +OPK on cd14 - so I'm happy I have a wonky cycle, yay :D

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks melinda. The Zyrtec didn't seem to do much and I took another one this morning before work and have struggled to stay awake all day - they're not meant to be drowsy but I certainly am! Of course that could be an 'off' day down to some other reason (like lack of nutritious food lol!) but it's a coincidence if that's the case.

The Zyrtec may have helped a little - tmi but I don't feel 'damp' the whole time like I did yesterday but when I check there's no shortage of EWCM, although perhaps a little less EW-y! I will take benedryl on the night of our attempt too but I've read that one really does make you drowsy so I don't want to use it before I have to!

I'm taking the Vitex every day AF-AF this cycle and will stop at O next cycle when we ttc. I don't want to stop taking it all together though because I may not get pregnant on our first attempt (in fact, I think it's unlikely!).

You will get used to the Zyrtec after a day or two and it won't make you drowsy any more.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks Atomic. It turns out I only had that 1 day of crazy EWCM anyway. I've had some crampy feelings like I usually get around O but not much at all and I still haven't had a +OPK on cd14 - so I'm happy I have a wonky cycle, yay :D

Haha hurrah for wonky cycles!!

[atomic sagebrush]

I will probably have to do the same(zyrtec and benedryl), I thought about quiting but then if I conceive and its another boy I will beat myself up with "what if I took vitex would it of been a girl" lol so I am covering everything I know so when I do conceive and its another boy then hopefully I will feel confident that I did my best and tried it all lol

I totally understand and this makes total sense to me! Good luck!!!

[zanacal]

... and I'm glad I tried the Zyrtek because now I know to take it when I get home from work and not in the morning!

[XXdreaming]

When ds2 was younger he had bad allergies and then all that snot would go to ears(ended up with eartubes) but after 2yrs of ear tubes and they fell out he was still having the same issue so to prevent a second ear tubes we were trying allergy meds and she said to do zyrtec at night(since she said does cause drowsiness) and then claritin in the morning, and this seemed to work for him, so I was wondering if that would work for me, because I hate benedryl, I been told by several dr that I am not allergic to it but they make my muscles ache and restless and I don't sleep, just very tired and irritable and then ruins the day lol

[zanacal]

Ooh yes, that reminds me, I meant to ask about Clarityn. I was going to use Zyrtek in the morning and Benadryl (sold as a sleeping aid in the UK!) at bedtime but I noticed the Clarityn in the supermarket and saw it had a different ingredient - it's Loratadine, which has this description on Wikipedia:

Loratadine (INN) is a second-generation H1 histamine antagonist drug used to treat allergies. Structurally, it is closely related to tricyclic antidepressants such as imipramine, and distantly related to the atypical antipsychotic quetiapine.[1] It is marketed by Schering-Plough under several trade names such as Claritin, and by Shionogi in Japan. Loratadine is available as a generic drug and is marketed for its non-sedating properties. In a version named Claritin-D or Clarinase, the substance is combined with pseudoephedrine, a decongestant; this makes it useful for colds as well as allergies, but adds potential side-effects of insomnia, nervousness, and anxiety.

Any thoughts Atomic?

[atomic sagebrush]

Claritin is fine if it works for you. It doesn't work at all for my allergies so I've just been sticking with what, in my experience, has worked.

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh and pseudoephedrine, for those that don't know, is the same stuff in Sudafed. It does dry you up but carries an increased risk of strokes in young women, esp. young women taking blood thinners (like baby aspirin and cran).

[zanacal]

Thanks for the info :D