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atomic sagebrush
July 30th, 2011, 02:49 PM
Update 12-22-17 I am no longer convinced that raising testosterone for blue and lowering it for pink is in any way effective for swaying but I know some do still believe in it, and this essay may help with that. :)

:superhero: Here's a quick reference to which foods raise testosterone and why! :superhero:

:whip: Foods rich in cholesterol - Cholesterol - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cholesterol) Eggs, butter, lard, full-fat dairy, fatty meats, poultry skins...Cholesterol is the building block from which all your hormones are made. Testosterone and estrogen are not really supplied to your body by being eaten themselves; rather, your body manufactures them from the foods you eat. So keeping your body supplied with cholesterol will ensure that it has enough on hand to manufacture testosterone and estrogen.

:whip: Foods rich in saturated fat - Saturated fat - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Saturated_fat) In addition to the foods in the cholesterol group above, ANY foods rich in saturated fat will help boost your supply of testosterone and estrogen, even if it has no cholesterol. There are some plant-based saturated fats like coconut oil, dark chocolate, and palm oil that are high in saturated fat but contain no cholesterol. (only animal products have cholesterol.) Saturated fats from these sources help your body to make its own cholesterol. 30% or more of your calories should come from fat for blue swayers.

:whip: Foods rich in healthy fats - Polyunsaturated fat - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polyunsaturated) Monounsaturated fat - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monounsaturated_fat) Fish, avocado, nuts, seeds,olive oil, oatmeal, whole wheat, meats, eggs, and full-fat dairy. Interestingly, there are a lot of healthy fats occuring alongside the cholesterol and saturated fats in animal products! This group causes some confusion for people because eating a lot of healthy fat can actually LOWER blood cholesterol levels, but it does so in such a way that your body is still able to produce ample amounts of testosterone and estrogen. Research has shown that men who ate the most healthy fats had the highest levels of testosterone. 30% or more of your calories should come from fat for blue sways BUT be sure that you are getting a higher intake of your fats from animal and saturated fats instead of vegetable and unsaturated fats, because this may sway strongly blue.

:whip: Foods rich in Vitamin D - Full-fat dairy is the best source of Vit. D. Vit. D has been proven (more than most things in swaying!!) to dramatically raise testosterone. If you're scared of taking Vit. D or drinking dairy products because they are traditional pink swaying tactics, simply go outside and sunbathe for an hour a day (really do recommend the supplements though).

:whip: Foods high in protein - Protein is a building block for muscle, and the more muscle you have, the more testosterone your body produces. So if you increase your protein intake, esp. while following an exercise program that builds muscle, you will be "telling" your body that you "need" it to make more testosterone.

:whip: Healthy, nutrient rich carbs - Protein eaten ALONE is not enough to build muscle. Your body needs carbohydrates as well. In fact, a high protein, low carb diet like Atkins actually was shown to LOWER testosterone production in at least one study. If possible, try to focus on carbs that contain some healthy fats in them - whole grain breads, oatmeal (oats contain a chemical that is proven to raise testosterone), and of course lots of colorful fruits and vegetables. Garlic contains a compound in it that has been shown to raise testosterone and makes a great addition to any meal. Remember, protein + carbs = boys, for both blood glucose and for testosterone!!!

:whip: Foods rich in Vit. A - Like Vit. D above, Vit. A is a fat soluble vitamin that has been shown to raise testosterone. DO NOT take large doses of Vit A supplements, Vit. A through diet is what you are after. Vit. A supplements can KILL you or give your baby birth defects. Carrots, tomatoes, any brightly colored orange fruits and veg will have ample amounts of Vitamin A. Meats and dairy foods also have good amounts of Vitamin A present in them.

:think: A few things to be aware of:

Broccoli, cauliflower, cabbage (also called cruciferous vegetables) contain a chemical that has been shown to raise testosterone but may do so at the expense of estrogen. We want things that will boost BOTH our testosterone and our estrogen. Eating a cruciferous veggie here and there will not affect you negatively, but there is a supplement based on this chemical called DIM which we may want to stay away from.

Lignans and other phytoestrogens, which are chemicals that may mimic estrogen in such a way that it represses testosterone production and/or competes with the body's natural estrogens, may not be the best way to go to raise T levels. A lot of swayers believe phytoestrogens sway blue and we honestly don't have enough info to know for certain, so I'm just sharing this and then y'all can decide for yourselves what makes the most sense. Flax, soy, sesame seed, and the brans of various cereal products all contain lignans/phytoestrogens.Lignan - Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lignan) http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/phytochemicals/lignans/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phytoestrogens
http://lpi.oregonstate.edu/infocenter/phytochemicals/soyiso/

Please NOTE we no longer recommend anything beyond dietary intake of flaxseed (2-3 times a week) of flax oil because these things may harm a baby when used during pregnancy. Flax products are NOT SAFE when pregnant and since we do not know how long the effects last I strongly urge everyone to avoid anything more than dietary intake when actively trying to conceive.

Fiber - LARGE amounts of fiber can absorb and sweep fats out of the digestive tract. (This is why pink swayers are taking fiber supps). This doesn't mean you should skip eating fruits and vegetables...fiber in dietary amounts probably does not affect fat absorption very much at all. Don't take fiber supps if you're swaying blue.

:superhero: Quick list of foods that will raise your T levels!! :superhero:

Full-fat dairy (whole milk, cheese, ice cream, yogurt)
Poultry (choose fattier varieties like dark meat and skin)
Meat (choose fattier, well-marbled cuts)
Animal-based cooking fats (lard, butter, ghee, bacon grease, schmaltz)
Eggs (eat at least 2 a day and 4-6 a day if you are a vegetarian)
Nuts (almonds, walnuts, cashews, peanuts)
Seeds (pumpkin seeds, sunflower, sesame seeds)
Olive oil and other plant-based oils like nut oils, palm oil, coconut oil
Fatty fish (salmon, sardines, tuna)
Gelatin (in Jello desserts, consomme, aspic, or taken as a supplement)
Orange and dark green fruits and vegetables (carrots, tomatoes, swiss chard, winter squash, apricots, V-8 juice)
Garlic
Oatmeal

Flava
July 31st, 2011, 02:54 PM
This is great ! Im trying to eat all this food for sure. I want high T , for some reason I think this can help me a lot to get my boy. Im always looking for signs of high T in the shower LOL . My hair is not growing faster then before but I saw yesterday I have some hair on every single toe of mine!:holysheep: this is scary maybe Im turning to a damn yeti ??!! :rofl:
Also I just can't sit on my butt anymore I always want to do something:mad: that's so not me...anyway I started a garage project today because I just have to do something.:rolleyes:

zanacal
July 31st, 2011, 04:09 PM
My hair is not growing faster then before but I saw yesterday I have some hair on every single toe of mine!:holysheep: this is scary maybe Im turning to a damn yeti ??!! :rofl:


This is so funny, only in boy swaying land would hairy toes be something to feel happy about! I wish mine would stop growing but no change unfortunately!

WashingtonPromise
August 2nd, 2011, 09:30 AM
Thanks Atomic!!! I needed a food testosterone list...something new to obsess about :) Well I already eat EVERYTHING on the list, but we drink raw milk from our farm, so maybe I should add Vit D for August cycle. I do spend a good bit of time in the sun though....hmmmm.

gizmo77
August 2nd, 2011, 02:57 PM
so how much cauliflower and broccoli is okay? a handful a few times a week??

Flava
August 2nd, 2011, 03:12 PM
so how much cauliflower and broccoli is okay? a handful a few times a week??

I don't know but I only eat this sometimes like not even every week, so Im sure that's ok lol. But once a weeks should be ok too.

atomic sagebrush
August 6th, 2011, 01:00 PM
Thanks Atomic!!! I needed a food testosterone list...something new to obsess about :) Well I already eat EVERYTHING on the list, but we drink raw milk from our farm, so maybe I should add Vit D for August cycle. I do spend a good bit of time in the sun though....hmmmm.

Yes, I think you should add in some Vit D even if you're in the sun a lot. Some people's bodies are better about absorbing it than others are.

atomic sagebrush
August 6th, 2011, 01:04 PM
so how much cauliflower and broccoli is okay? a handful a few times a week??

A reasonable amount that you get via a normal diet. Even if you eat it several times a week that should be ok, but don't eat it in excess morning noon and night and DON'T take the DIM supplements until we know more. We had talked about adding them to the TTC boy supps but for right now we just don't have enough info.

atomic sagebrush
August 6th, 2011, 01:07 PM
This is so funny, only in boy swaying land would hairy toes be something to feel happy about! I wish mine would stop growing but no change unfortunately!

I have them too! Remember, most of body hair distribution is genetic and there IS actually a hairy-toe gene believe it or not!!

It's only when you notice CHANGES in body hair that it is an indication of something going differently in your bod.

YAY Team Hairy-Toe!!

Hobbermittens
August 23rd, 2011, 11:47 PM
I am just reading this, and I am wondering if it is okay for DH to eat lots of Broccoli? I just bought a bag at Costco and if I am supposed to go easy on it, I need him to eat a lot! Can't let it go to waste....

atomic sagebrush
August 26th, 2011, 02:41 PM
Some broccoli is fine for both of you. Just not morning, noon, and night and nothing else!!!

You can also freeze broccoli - just dip it in boiling water for 2 minutes to blanch and then into freezer bags and into the freezer.

Hobbermittens
August 26th, 2011, 03:56 PM
Some broccoli is fine for both of you. Just not morning, noon, and night and nothing else!!!

You can also freeze broccoli - just dip it in boiling water for 2 minutes to blanch and then into freezer bags and into the freezer.

Thanks Atomic! I will freeze it, then. Because if not, we MIGHT have to eat it morning noon and night... you know how big those Costco bags are! :wink:

atomic sagebrush
August 27th, 2011, 11:15 AM
YES I do! The depressing thing is with two teenage boys in the house, how quick those bags can go! :omg:

Hobbermittens
August 31st, 2011, 10:39 PM
YES I do! The depressing thing is with two teenage boys in the house, how quick those bags can go! :omg:

Hey, at least they eat broccoli! My DD1 wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole (she's only 7, but I can't imagine she will be any better when she's a teen!).

atomic sagebrush
September 2nd, 2011, 02:10 PM
They will eat anything if it is smothered in cheese/alfredo sauce/French dressing!!! ;) (where did my shoe go???)

love being a mummy
October 19th, 2011, 07:17 AM
Full-fat dairy (whole milk, cheese, ice cream, yogurt)
I thought diary was a no-no on the boy diet?

rainbowflower
October 19th, 2011, 07:24 AM
I thought diary was a no-no on the boy diet?

if you completely buy into the fact that calcium + mag sway pink, potassium+sodium sway blue, then dairy would be a no-no for blue. Even then for pink swayers full fat dairy is a no-no because it contains animal hormones (that might raise testosterone levels) as well as the fat which also sways blue.
If you are going to be doing a nutrient diet and trying to get as much of all nutrients as possible to sway blue, as studies have shown it can especially in animals, full fat dairy is OK for blue!

love being a mummy
October 19th, 2011, 07:27 AM
Thanks :) I've been wanting to do the boy diet but I just can't cut out the milk and butter I was so worried about it.

atomic sagebrush
October 23rd, 2011, 08:26 AM
I thought diary was a no-no on the boy diet?

On the French Gender Diet, and then on the IG Diet which is a spinoff of the FGD, they do not allow calcium or dairy. But I've done a lot of investigating after I realized I always eat tons of dairy and have 4 boys, and witnessed several sways fail where the people were doing the minerals exactly perfectly and found a lot of evidence that calls that into question. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?610-the-calcium-conundrum-CONTROVERSIAL

On my High Everything Diet, full fat dairy is included for blue swayers if they choose to include it because the protein, fat, cholesterol, and other nutrients in the dairy sway blue (and I believe they sway blue A LOT). Full fat dairy also increases fertility and will help you get pregnant.

TTC5
October 24th, 2011, 04:27 AM
Thanks :) I've been wanting to do the boy diet but I just can't cut out the milk and butter I was so worried about it.

Don't cut it out, enjoy it! :)

TTC5
October 24th, 2011, 04:29 AM
I have them too! Remember, most of body hair distribution is genetic and there IS actually a hairy-toe gene believe it or not!!

It's only when you notice CHANGES in body hair that it is an indication of something going differently in your bod.

YAY Team Hairy-Toe!!

LMAO I have hair on my big toes!

wannahealthybaby
January 8th, 2012, 01:59 PM
So happy I found this site. I also think vitamin D is key in a boy sway. I have girls and also just started on a vitamin D replacement pill because mine has always been so low.

atomic sagebrush
January 8th, 2012, 04:31 PM
Not only will it help your sway, but it's also GREAT for you! :)

Glad you found us too!

atomic sagebrush
December 22nd, 2017, 01:43 PM
bumping this updated thread

Bromedha
August 17th, 2018, 09:07 AM
When the gelatin drinks should be started to help the sway.. I'll be starting TTC by November.. Can I start now ?

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atomic sagebrush
August 17th, 2018, 05:24 PM
We have honestly had such poor compliance with the gelatin drinks that I don't have a good feel for if 6 weeks is enough or if 12 is better.

annuvaboyplz
August 26th, 2018, 01:04 PM
Hello

Would getting competitive e.g. trying to beat someone at computer games regularly, help raise testosterone levels and therefore sway blue?

Or as you said originally, does testosterone level probably not make much difference to a sway?

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atomic sagebrush
August 26th, 2018, 03:03 PM
Maybe! It can't hurt! I even suggest that in my blue custom sway plans.

Look at it this way - even if T levels alone don't sway, it doesn't hurt to do that!

annuvaboyplz
August 26th, 2018, 04:20 PM
That's true, given a chance and a kid in bed I would do that anyway haha!

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Sora
April 25th, 2019, 04:38 AM
On the French Gender Diet, and then on the IG Diet which is a spinoff of the FGD, they do not allow calcium or dairy. But I've done a lot of investigating after I realized I always eat tons of dairy and have 4 boys, and witnessed several sways fail where the people were doing the minerals exactly perfectly and found a lot of evidence that calls that into question. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?610-the-calcium-conundrum-CONTROVERSIAL

On my High Everything Diet, full fat dairy is included for blue swayers if they choose to include it because the protein, fat, cholesterol, and other nutrients in the dairy sway blue (and I believe they sway blue A LOT). Full fat dairy also increases fertility and will help you get pregnant.

About that atomic, something came back to me lately : while searching for supps for vitD and potassium, I happened to meet with people online who were researching it because health reasons -> read they had some kind of sickness that wouldn't allow them to synthetize or keep potassium/vitD in their bodies. They were all talking about something that hit me : that their docs recommended the other supp (either vitD supps for potassium deficient or potassium supps for vitD deficient) because these two do seem to help each-other stay in the body in great quantities. So if I understood well, if you want to keep all your vit D, raise your potassium. If you want to keep most of your potassium, raise your vitD. I wonder if the results of FGD/IG about potassium having something to do with blue is BECAUSE blue moms happen to get more vitD. And incidentally, while pink moms are quite good with cal/mag, they are low on both potassium/vitD.

It wouldn't surprise me they never thought about looking into the power of vitD for a blue sway because in France vitD is the most forgotten vit ever ! On the other hand, France is ALL about minerals. Everyone here has already taken minerals supps once in his/her life, especially calcium ! The same cannot be said for vits except the all-ruling vit C and now B12 because vegans. Search a french multi, french reinforced food (breakfast cereals or else) vit D is NEVER added, or is present in ridiculous quantities. Even for milk, I remember only ONE brand of "enhanced" milk that added it... because it's good for calcium haha ! Outside of vit C and B, no doc will either think about recommending vitA or D and naturally, people won't think about it either. What you hear the most, when someone feels unhealthy and/or lacking something is "must be low on cal/mag/vitC, I should take some". Their docs will say exactly the same. If you happen to ask about the other vits you get "Why these ? Do you have some medical condition we're not aware of ? If you want them, eat a few fruits, it should be okay" :giggle:

But they are SO quick to precribe cal/mag at the drop of a hat !:giggle:

Also, still weirded out about the thing with dairy being not good for a pink sway since I had my two girls while gorging on it and whole at that (never liked the skimmed ones). Whole milk, only cheese made of whole milk, ice cream, all that in great quantities, especially while TTC...
On the other hand I'm low on vitD (and potassium... and proteins). I never tan in the sun, no matter how much hours I spend under it. I don't burn red either though so it's not a prob of being too pale naturally. Well, since taking woman one a day I do tan and VERY quickly and easily ! It's a first and I'm sure it's because of vitD !

I think it's a big key for a sway and the potassium is high in blue not necessarily because it sways blue but because the higher vit D will cause it to rise too ? The updated FGD has abandonned the potassium supps because it wasn't helping the sway much apparently. But still not thinking about looking for vitD. The minerals steal all the glory here really !

atomic sagebrush
April 25th, 2019, 02:13 PM
I really do not believe the potassium stuff works. I have a genetic predisposition to have lower than normal potassium and have 4 boys and the biological data in support of the mineral diets is really sketchy. But it's fine if you want to eat a diet with lots of potassium sources and take Vit. D, that will only help your sway.

I really believe based on all available biological information that the mineral diets are barking up the wrong tree. So I try not to work very hard to make all the theories fit into one, because when other sites do that in the past they get too invested in continuing tactics that aren't working.

I understand when you've gotten girls with dairy before, it's hard to move past the idea. (Just as how it was EASY for me to move past the idea since I got boys with dairy!) As long as you're working very hard to eat a balanced diet and be getting a good level of NON-vegetable based fats (such as lard and fatty meats) it's ok to limit dairy. What I don't like to see is when blue swayers drop dairy and then are eating a much higher % of vegetable based fats than they are animal based. Eating too many vegetable fats in proportion to animal fats has been shown in animal studies to sway pink, and the milk replacers are LOADED with vegetable fats.

Sora
April 26th, 2019, 12:57 AM
I really do not believe the potassium stuff works. I have a genetic predisposition to have lower than normal potassium and have 4 boys and the biological data in support of the mineral diets is really sketchy. But it's fine if you want to eat a diet with lots of potassium sources and take Vit. D, that will only help your sway.

I really believe based on all available biological information that the mineral diets are barking up the wrong tree. So I try not to work very hard to make all the theories fit into one, because when other sites do that in the past they get too invested in continuing tactics that aren't working.

I understand when you've gotten girls with dairy before, it's hard to move past the idea. (Just as how it was EASY for me to move past the idea since I got boys with dairy!) As long as you're working very hard to eat a balanced diet and be getting a good level of NON-vegetable based fats (such as lard and fatty meats) it's ok to limit dairy. What I don't like to see is when blue swayers drop dairy and then are eating a much higher % of vegetable based fats than they are animal based. Eating too many vegetable fats in proportion to animal fats has been shown in animal studies to sway pink, and the milk replacers are LOADED with vegetable fats.

Oh I didn't know about your genetic predisposition :suprise: ! Anyway I was rambling but I think we both agree about barking up the wrong tree. What I mean is I thought they went about the minerals theories because of 1-Cultural reasons if one can says (favoring minerals in diet over vit so they wouldn't think about looking those up, I mean nothing in the research for FGD ever mentions vitamins, only minerals, even re breakfast cereals and fruits that they encourage to take, it's all minerals minerals) and 2-Because the interaction between vitD and potassium raising each-others' level up would have made them think the higher-level of potassium had something to do with swaying although it may have been the vitD all along. Doesn't help that some of the food with the highest vitD are also the highest with potassium.

Just a thought about why they could have gone into that theory about calcium or potassium but not approving it.

True it's sometimes still a bit hard to believe in the getting boys with dairy since I should have had at least one with all the dairy I was eating :giggle: But I also aknowledge it was my ONLY source of animal fats and may not have been enough, being vegetarian and all. Let's not even talk about vits, fruits, all the like, I just didn't take any, not even in juice or supps form. And DD2 happened a short time after weaning, my doc did tell me I was low on everything. That and the one attempt thing... So yeah I realize there were multiple factors. :worry:

But you're right about vegetable fats, even the FGD threw them out anyway, especially the milk replacers which are a big NO NO.

atomic sagebrush
April 26th, 2019, 01:49 PM
It's ok it's no big deal, I take medicine now. :)

Exactly about the FGD, that's my same take on it. They didn't investigate anything else (which is very strange!) they just decided to study minerals and that's that. And different foods have not only different minerals, but also different everything else. I now see what you're saying and that makes some sense that they may have overlooked that!!!

It's the diet as a whole that matters plus other stuff, so dairy's not a magic bullet for blue or pink, unfortunately! As long as you don't load up on almond and rice milk, it's fine to skip the dairy if you prefer. :) Good luck and blue dust headed your way!

Sora
April 27th, 2019, 06:45 AM
It's ok it's no big deal, I take medicine now. :)

Exactly about the FGD, that's my same take on it. They didn't investigate anything else (which is very strange!) they just decided to study minerals and that's that. And different foods have not only different minerals, but also different everything else. I now see what you're saying and that makes some sense that they may have overlooked that!!!

It's the diet as a whole that matters plus other stuff, so dairy's not a magic bullet for blue or pink, unfortunately! As long as you don't load up on almond and rice milk, it's fine to skip the dairy if you prefer. :) Good luck and blue dust headed your way!

Thank you atomic ! Think I will keep the whole milk for breakfast and the cheese at the very least. Anyway need to update my plan cause I can eat eggs again :cheer:

nishi
June 2nd, 2020, 04:45 PM
Can we take chia seeds for boy sway

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atomic sagebrush
June 2nd, 2020, 05:39 PM
Yes, but I think you guys should keep them to 2-3 servings a week in case they have any negative effects.

nishi
June 2nd, 2020, 09:49 PM
But i thought chia seeds super food and high in protein and it's sway boy [emoji65][emoji19]

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atomic sagebrush
June 3rd, 2020, 11:27 AM
They also have phytoestrogens in them which may lower testosterone and interfere with your body's natural production of estrogen. They also have chemicals in them called phytic acid which blocks the absorption of other nutrients. The type of fat in them called ALA may also not be optimal for swaying blue.

Please keep them to 2-3 times per week.