What do you think of my sway??

[maudster]

Hello I am new to Gender Dreaming…I wanted to get everyones opinion on my sway. I have one shot so I need to make it a good one!!!

I will not be eating breakfast until 11 (this will be hard, I tend to get shaky with out eating and I get up at 5:00)

I will follow the LE diet to the best of my ability

my supplements:
saw palmetto
vitex
baby aspirin
antihistamine(if I need it)

DH supplemets:
cranberry
Licorice root

1 attempt during fertile window (not sure exactly when because O day seems to change by a day some months)

Negative ion bracelet, lavender lotion and oil

refresh every 3 days

sylk (maybe, not too convinced this really sways, just kills sperm)


So what do you think??

[maidentomother]

I would drop the sylk, rephresh, and bsby aspirin (unless advised by a dr). I'd make sure you have a full 3 months on the diet before you start TTC, and I strongly recommend adding 60+ min of daily cardio exercise if possible. As for timing your one attempt, if your cycles are regular, OPKs should work well for you (even if your O moves around a lot - mine does too, it's pretty common). Test daily starting on CD8 with a reliable brand like Wondfo from amazon, and once your lines start getting close to positive test 2-3x daily. Attempt as soon as you get your first positive. Most women's LH levels peak between 11am and 4pm so I recommend testing in that window with apple juice coloured urine.

[maudster]

Thanks for your response. I did use the amazon OPK's this cycle to see when I ovulated and it did work well for me, I ovulated 2 days after I thought I would have. I thought that is when I would base my attempt. I used the ones off of Amazon that came in the large pack, 50 or so of them and then 20 pregnancy tests. Not sure the brand?? I thought I would test for Ovulation and once it was positive I would BD for our one attempt and then stop.

I am also testing the PH of my CM but it doesn't seem to be working?

[XXforhubby]

I wouldn't worry about pH as it doesn't seem to do much of anything.


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[maidentomother]

Sounds like you are a pro already with OPKs. So yep, just attempt as soon as you get your first positive OPK, preferably that night or the next morning at the latest. You can have another attempt 4 days later (I.e. if you had your first attempt on CD13, your second would be on CD17), if you want to be covered in case you O later than expected. Otherwise just the one attempt at positive OPK is plenty.

Don't worry about pH, it doesn't seem to matter or sway, and checking/worrying about it could even sway blue. Sometimes the strips don't work well anyway if your CM isn't watery enough.

[maudster]

Thanks! I am exercising 5 days a week for 30 minutes I need to step up my game and go 60. I run, so I will run/run-walk for 60 minutes.

What is un-healthy about aspirin? Is it that it is a blood thinner? Is it not needed because it just affects PH which does not sway? So should I also not do Crystal Light??

I am just not sure how else I can change myself from when I conceived my boys besides testosterone, estrogen, progesterone and PH.

My 1st boy I did no working out and I was 15 lbs heavier than my normal weight but still not over weight, ate un-healthy.

My 2nd boy I was under weight and ran all the time, ran a half marathon 3 weeks pregnant, ate healthy.

AHHH!!!! I guess the difference would be that we did BD EOD the week of O and we will not be doing that this time.

Any other suggestions.

[maidentomother]

Yep, it's bc aspirin is a blood thinner that we don't recommend taking it unless medically advised. It doesn't seem to sway much if at all, anyway. As for CL, some ladies do drink it. Again, there isn't much evidence it sways. I wouldn't drink it personally bc I think aspartame is toxic.

The strong sway factors are diet above all (low fat, low protein, low cal, vegetarian, no snacking), exercise, and one attempt. If you are inherently very healthy and fertile, you are naturally more likely to have boys which likely explains how you got a boy despite running long distance.

Clomid & femara also sway strongly pink, if you can get them. And I am a fan of Vitex.

[atomic sagebrush]

bump thi for me

[maudster]

Thanks so much!! Any other suggestions? Is there a specific brand of Fiber I should purchase?

[maidentomother]

I use ground psyllium husks which I believe is Metamucil. But any brand that doesn't contain added vitamins, sugar, or oats is fine.

[XXforhubby]

I use sugar free Metamucil.


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[maudster]

Thanks!! I am pretty confident in my sway….fingers crossed!! I will still be happy with a healthy baby! I have some pretty bad baby fever right now!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi again Maudster and thanks for your patience.

Your sway looks good to me. It is strict, but over the course of time we can loosen this up as you go.

I am moving away from the baby aspirin. I don't think it helps and does carry risks to it and thus I"m not using it as much any more. IF you were taking it and want to discontinue, wean off slowly.

In what patterns are you tking the herbal supps??

[atomic sagebrush]

I wouldn't worry about pH as it doesn't seem to do much of anything.


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It is not unusual for the pH strips not to work. Quite a few people report that. Never fear though, testing pH doesn't seem to be helping anyone anyway and I've seen so many opposites (including my 4th boy, where I was testing pH 2-3 times a day and never had a reading above 5 till I was already preggo with him) that it is hard for me to believe it any more.

Here is the "anti-pH" essay. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/11684-ph-pickle.html

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks! I am exercising 5 days a week for 30 minutes I need to step up my game and go 60. I run, so I will run/run-walk for 60 minutes.

What is un-healthy about aspirin? Is it that it is a blood thinner? Is it not needed because it just affects PH which does not sway? So should I also not do Crystal Light??

I am just not sure how else I can change myself from when I conceived my boys besides testosterone, estrogen, progesterone and PH.

My 1st boy I did no working out and I was 15 lbs heavier than my normal weight but still not over weight, ate un-healthy.

My 2nd boy I was under weight and ran all the time, ran a half marathon 3 weeks pregnant, ate healthy.

AHHH!!!! I guess the difference would be that we did BD EOD the week of O and we will not be doing that this time.

Any other suggestions.

RE the aspirin - the stats are showing it's not helping and the risks are many. Bleeding, bruising, extended AF, possibly even upping risks of heart attacks (although I think that is because people stop and start it suddenly and don't wean off the way that we do). I also think it may contribute to some pregnancy losses with subchorionic hemmorhage.

We don't even know that T, E, P, AND PH even sway one bit. You can't focus on things like that because all those things are, is just theories. All you can do is stick with what has seemed to work best for others, which is diet 12+ weeks with fiber, exercise, and one attempt.

Don't look back at what you did before. It's NEVER one thing, unless that one thing is "bad luck" (in quotes because a healthy baby is never bad luck) I ahve an essay on coming back from an opposite here (while you were prob. not even swaying, it's still a helpful read to snap out of the "I gotta do everything different this time" mindset. :) http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/18466-when-sways-attack.html

[maudster]

Yeah, I def. do not want to bruise or bleed so I weened myself off of the aspirin. I will be starting Vitex and Saw Palmetto, Sunday at the start of AF through my Ovulation. Is this the way you recommend to take them? I will be staying on Folic Acid and Fiber full time. My fiber says to take 5 a day….should I really take that many? Seems like a LOT! My husband will start licorice root on Sunday at the start of my AF also.

I plan on trying to be strict for 2-3 months and then ween off of the stuff that is making it harder to get pregnant. Like rePHresh and licorice root.

I do need to stop thinking about what I did my last attempts and worry about this one. It is making me too stressed out and what is going to happen will happen. This is my last time "Trying" to get pregnant and I need to enjoy it. This will be our last baby!

Any other suggestions?? I would love a girl but a healthy baby is what matters!

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes I have people usually go from CD 1- 1or2 days before they expect to ovulate, or positive OPK whichever comes fitst.

No, you don't need to take that many. Start with one at any meal containing fat and go from there.

EVerything looking good! STay positive!

[maudster]

Ok I just read your "When sways Attack" article. Now, I dunno what to do?? Maybe I should not do rePHresh at all, maybe a finger tip 30 min before? I didn't realize that vitex and SP made it harder to conceive? EHHH!! I know i will not be able to stand the diet for long, so maybe it is best to just start out with a light sway, like you said something that is easy to manage. I am not sure that I want to drop Vitex and SP though bc I was thinking that lowering my Testosterone along with diet and exercise would be a great way for me to go? Maybe I should just get off of vitex if it is messing up my cycles.

[maidentomother]

SP & V can cause issues but they don't ALWAYS, for everyone. I never had issues on SP (though I didn't take it with V or for swaying purposes) and some ladies find V helps with conception. So while it's true that they tend to inhibit conception overall, that is the point of swaying pink. I think taking them for 2-3 months before you TTC then stopping once you start attempting is the best of both worlds, as you get any pink effects without messing up your cycles when TTC. Until you're actively TTC, it doesn't matter much if your cycles are affected. And, it's possible the disruption of cycles is part of how these supps sway pink.

But above all, go with a sway that you find as relaxing as possible. If you know you'll stress over supps, skip them. They're not essential by any means.

[maudster]

I am not too stressed about the sups, I figure if it messes with my ovulation day that is what I am using my OPK's for. I just know that I will not be able to do the diet for all that long. I am already thin, I don't eat huge meals and have cut out red meat, but I like to snack. I can do smaller portions but I like to snack.

[maidentomother]

Soooo msny of us pink swayers were huge snackers but you adjust and it becomes quite easy for most of us eventually. That's why it's so good to start in advance to give yourself time to adjust and make NOT snacking a habit.

If you're already thin you just eat more cals so you don't lose too mucy weight. Especially adding empty cals like soda helps stop/prevent weight loss. I am thin naturally but only lost 5lbs over the first 6w on the diet, then I held steady. You can do it!

[maudster]

THANKS!!!

[maudster]

Also…What about laying after BD? I was thinking about BD then jump and dump. But I am not sure that I can get pregnant that way. My DH and I went 4 years in college with no Birth control BD every day with no ooops.

[maidentomother]

You don't have to J&D. It doesn't make much of a difference wnyway, the sperm swim to where they need to be within seconds-minutes.

Do you not O normally on your own?

[atomic sagebrush]

Ok I just read your "When sways Attack" article. Now, I dunno what to do?? Maybe I should not do rePHresh at all, maybe a finger tip 30 min before? I didn't realize that vitex and SP made it harder to conceive? EHHH!! I know i will not be able to stand the diet for long, so maybe it is best to just start out with a light sway, like you said something that is easy to manage. I am not sure that I want to drop Vitex and SP though bc I was thinking that lowering my Testosterone along with diet and exercise would be a great way for me to go? Maybe I should just get off of vitex if it is messing up my cycles.

Just to further complicate matters - check out how low their results are. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/25157-complete-pink-swaying-statistics-spreadsheet.html

The counterintuitive thing about swaying is that it seems as if focusing on the RIGHT things is actually MORE effective than throwing the kitchen sink at it. I don't know if some of these things are actually swaying blue somehow (numbers do not indicate this) or, as I believe, the extraneous gobbledygook makes it so much harder to get pregnant that ovulation stops and people have to end up swaying blue just to get pregnant and/or that the mental energies involved in keeping it all organized sway in a big way.

[atomic sagebrush]

Also…What about laying after BD? I was thinking about BD then jump and dump. But I am not sure that I can get pregnant that way. My DH and I went 4 years in college with no Birth control BD every day with no ooops.

You can always compromise and wait 5, 10, or 15 minutes and then J and D. :)

This is a crystal ball q that I honestly don't ahve the answer to. I have not ever found that I got pg getting up right away. I laid down for at least a while with all 5 and in months where i got up pretty quick after, I didn't get pg. But that may be a coincidence and I know tons of people out there who had desperately hoped J and D would be a good BC method who found out otherwise!

[atomic sagebrush]

SP & V can cause issues but they don't ALWAYS, for everyone. I never had issues on SP (though I didn't take it with V or for swaying purposes) and some ladies find V helps with conception. So while it's true that they tend to inhibit conception overall, that is the point of swaying pink. I think taking them for 2-3 months before you TTC then stopping once you start attempting is the best of both worlds, as you get any pink effects without messing up your cycles when TTC. Until you're actively TTC, it doesn't matter much if your cycles are affected. And, it's possible the disruption of cycles is part of how these supps sway pink.

But above all, go with a sway that you find as relaxing as possible. If you know you'll stress over supps, skip them. They're not essential by any means.

I personally believe that it matters why people have fertility issues - if they are stemming from PCOS (too many hormones) than something that lowers/interferes with hormones can help. If someone's having fertility issues from hypothalamic amenorrhea (too thin, too few hormones being produced) or age (also too few hormones) then these things may make matters significantly worse. :)

This is one of the things I woudl LOVE to study. :)

[maudster]

Yeah vitex and Saw Palmetto are only 58%….I do not have a problem ovulating. I normally ovulate around the same time every month give or take two days. I thought these would be my "ticket". Guess I will need to focus more on diet and exercise. Maybe just vitex or saw palmetto? I would guess Saw Palmetto since it would effect testosterone, etc. And skip vitex?? Any suggestions?

If I don't take one or the other I don't really "feel" like I am swaying. lol I would't be taking any other supplements besides folic acid and fiber. I am going to use a fingertip of refresh 30 min before attempt (1 month) and if I don't get preg. drop it. No sylk. Sticking with the lavender, etc.

[maudster]

I have neglected to say that my DH side of the family is almost all boys in like 3 generations. There is only one girl per generation and the one for "my" generation was just born to my SIL. Does this really affect me? My IL's generation all stopped at 2 kids, so who would have known what happened with their 3rd? This will be my 3rd….

[maidentomother]

If you O normally how did you BD daily in college with DH and never conceive? I am very confused!

Atomic, I definitely agree the hormone modulating effects of herbs can be good or bad depending on the person. I too would love to see them studied.

[maudster]

I dunno?? I never thought about it. I think because I always got up and peed after. It took me three months to conceive both of my boys and I had to lay with my hips in the air. I never tracked ovulation then? I ovulate normally now, so I am guessing I ovulated normally then???

[maidentomother]

You ALWAYS got up immediately EVERY time you had sex, daily, for years? Never once fell asleep after sex? Even so you should have gotten pregnant then. If you were gettting regular AFs you were most likely Oing regularly. Were either you or DH super thin/fat/exercising a lot/on meds/very unhealthy during college?

[atomic sagebrush]

I have neglected to say that my DH side of the family is almost all boys in like 3 generations. There is only one girl per generation and the one for "my" generation was just born to my SIL. Does this really affect me? My IL's generation all stopped at 2 kids, so who would have known what happened with their 3rd? This will be my 3rd….

Gender isn't genetic in that way (while there are some genetic components involved such as height and muscle mass, it is NOT that anyone is making more X or more Y!) and NO it does not affect you. :)

Your body has NO CLUE about generations or what your SIL did or didn't have. Your body knows the food going down your throat, your overall fertility and stress levels, etc.

[atomic sagebrush]

You ALWAYS got up immediately EVERY time you had sex, daily, for years? Never once fell asleep after sex? Even so you should have gotten pregnant then. If you were gettting regular AFs you were most likely Oing regularly. Were either you or DH super thin/fat/exercising a lot/on meds/very unhealthy during college?

As a general rule I agree with this but I have to say I've been seeing enough people not getting pg doing immediate J and D even after dropping all other sway tactics, I am starting to wonder if this may not be the case for some people.

[maudster]

I was super thin, but had regular periods…I was on migraine meds. But yes, I did get up every time after J&D. When I first started having sex it stung really bad if he would release inside of me so I would get up and rinse myself at the beginning of the relationship, after about a year it stopped. I still got up and peed because my friend told me that is how you avoid a UTI. And they SUCK so I didn't want one. I also can't stand t have his "juices" on me. Unless I am trying to get pregnant, I still to this day get up and pee and wipe myself well after BD.

[maudster]

Gender isn't genetic in that way (while there are some genetic components involved such as height and muscle mass, it is NOT that anyone is making more X or more Y!) and NO it does not affect you. :)

Your body has NO CLUE about generations or what your SIL did or didn't have. Your body knows the food going down your throat, your overall fertility and stress levels, etc.


SO GLAD to hear this. I didn't think it could, but my husbands side of the family swears I can't have a girl because my SIL already had the only one for our generation. Fingers crossed I prove them wrong!!

[maudster]

Start my supplements tomorrow…YAY!!!

[maidentomother]

I am still surprised but if you were that religious about it, I guess it must have worked! So no J&D for you.

[atomic sagebrush]

SO GLAD to hear this. I didn't think it could, but my husbands side of the family swears I can't have a girl because my SIL already had the only one for our generation. Fingers crossed I prove them wrong!!

LMK if you want a more thorough explanation. This is one of my personal pet peeves because people told me a bunch of similar nonsense too. :) "we don't make girls in our family" Um, yes, yes you do.

[maudster]

I think I will do laying for 5 minutes after and see if it works. I am supposed to start today, still waiting for AF to start supplements, tested to make sure and BFN. So, she should arrive today and I will start the supplements and continue diet and exercise.

[maudster]

LMK if you want a more thorough explanation. This is one of my personal pet peeves because people told me a bunch of similar nonsense too. :) "we don't make girls in our family" Um, yes, yes you do.

I am TIRED of hearing it EVERY pregnancy. I know I will hear it this pregnancy because they (my in-laws) think 3 kids is too many and they think having 3 boys is crazy. So, I know I will constantly hear about having a boy and no chance of a girl. Which is one of the many reasons why my MIL and I have a great relationship. SO glad to hear that what they have had does not affect what I can have, I have tried to explain this to them and they think I am stupid.

[maudster]

What are my odds of conceiving a girl with out swaying? I think I have read a study that without swaying my odds are like 43% chances of a girl to 57% boy. Which I am totally good with. I will still LOVE a little boy no matter what, I just want to give myself a fighting chance for a girl!

[atomic sagebrush]

What are my odds of conceiving a girl with out swaying? I think I have read a study that without swaying my odds are like 43% chances of a girl to 57% boy. Which I am totally good with. I will still LOVE a little boy no matter what, I just want to give myself a fighting chance for a girl!

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/762-odds-having-boys-girls-mixed-gender-family-old-statistics-thread-lindi.html?762-statistics-question!-anybody-know=

But keep in mind that this says nothing for YOU, Maud's chances at a baby of a certain gender, though.

Some people may come into swaying 80% likely to conceive a boy, others 65% likely to conceive a girl (at least according to our stats) or even MORE. It's possible, albeit exceedingly unlikely that there are couples 100% likely to conceive a baby of a certain gender. Across the population, this averages out, but it doesn't equate to being any one person's odds, if that makes sense.

[atomic sagebrush]

I am TIRED of hearing it EVERY pregnancy. I know I will hear it this pregnancy because they (my in-laws) think 3 kids is too many and they think having 3 boys is crazy. So, I know I will constantly hear about having a boy and no chance of a girl. Which is one of the many reasons why my MIL and I have a great relationship. SO glad to hear that what they have had does not affect what I can have, I have tried to explain this to them and they think I am stupid.

OK so the more wonky explanation:

IF a family "only made boys", or in your case one per generation, their genes would have died out a loooongg time ago. DNA studies have revealed that of all the human males that ever lived, only 40% have genetic offspring alive today. Whereas 80% of all women who ever lived have surviving offspring. So straight away, a family with genes that could "only make boys" would be at a HUGE disadvantage for reproducing.

Additionally, many times throughout all human (and indeed, primate) history, a war or conqueror has come through with the net result that all the males were killed off. So if you "only made boys", boom, that's it, genetic dead end.

Genes that are at a 50% disadvantage to start with and then face repeated opportunities to die out all together, would not have survived to make it in the modern world! Genes are weirdly "smart" things and do not tend to "tie themselves" (quotes because they do not act deliberately) to things that put them at such a megadisadvantage like that.

[maudster]

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/762-odds-having-boys-girls-mixed-gender-family-old-statistics-thread-lindi.html?762-statistics-question!-anybody-know=

But keep in mind that this says nothing for YOU, Maud's chances at a baby of a certain gender, though.


Some people may come into swaying 80% likely to conceive a boy, others 65% likely to conceive a girl (at least according to our stats) or even MORE. It's possible, albeit exceedingly unlikely that there are couples 100% likely to conceive a baby of a certain gender. Across the population, this averages out, but it doesn't equate to being any one person's odds, if that makes sense.


So in theory I am more likely to have a girl, because only around 15% of 3 kid families are all the same gender. Correct?

[atomic sagebrush]

Not correct. The reason for that is because most of those families already HAD a girl with #1,2, or 3. It doesn't say anything about your chances either statistically (because across the population it averages out to be about 50-50 every time, with every kiddo) or personally, because your indivudual chances have NOTHING to do with statistical averages...example, if one person had 100% chance of a girl, and another had 0% chance of a girl, that would average out to 50-50 odds but that doesn't mean anything for those two people. :)

[maudster]

dang, I was thinking the 15% for one gender family sounded pretty good in my favor.

My DH pointed out that we did the "pull and pray" method in college. So that is probably why we did not get pregnant???

I am STILL waiting on my period, which is odd because I never am late. I have tested twice and they both say negative…so I will continue to wait.

[maidentomother]

Yep pulling out can be very effective.

[maudster]

I got my period!! YAY, for a second there I was scared I had gotten pregnant with out swaying yet. So since I am 3 days late should I move my expected ovulation date back 3 days also??

[maidentomother]

Are you usually super regular? It is more likely that O was delayed than your LP lenghtened. But I have a very erratic O and LP, even though my cycle length is usually 28-29 days. While swaying everything has been more erratic for me, though.

[atomic sagebrush]

As a general rule, yes, but as a practical rule, keep your eyes peeled in case this month is kooky. For some reason our bodies love to throw the curve balls when we are swaying. :)

[maudster]

Yes, I am usually super regular (can feel O pains) but last month I tested and I ovulated like 3-4 days after I thought I would. So I am guessing that is why I started later this month. I started my vitex supplement (400mg) this month, so I hope everything isn't totally wacky this month…but it is what it is. I am just planning on testing twice a day starting at day 13 and then when my test turns positive I will BD.

[maudster]

I hope this is a good sign, getting my body off its regular schedule. The diet is killing me, I want to snack so BADLY!! So fingers crossed I get a positive with the next 3 months.

[maudster]

What should my blood glucose level be at? I just had my numbers taken yesterday for my Health Screening, also my BMI was at 19.2? Good or bad?

[maidentomother]

I wouldn't worry about your blood glucose provided it's in normal range. Your BMI is fine!

[atomic sagebrush]

I hope this is a good sign, getting my body off its regular schedule. The diet is killing me, I want to snack so BADLY!! So fingers crossed I get a positive with the next 3 months.

I would add in a meal if you're really suffering that bad. There's a huge diff. between snacking all day every 15 minutes and eating 3 or 4 meals a day.

Going through the day whiteknuckling it is a recipe for cheating or worse, giving up. Do the doable and you're still not going to be eating in the HE Diet style!

[atomic sagebrush]

What should my blood glucose level be at? I just had my numbers taken yesterday for my Health Screening, also my BMI was at 19.2? Good or bad?

Don't worry about the numbers on the blood glucose tests, those fluctuate all over the place and while we use the expression "low blood sugar" what we are really trying to say is not a number on a test, but just that your body has to burn off its stores to keep functioning (you're not getting quick energy from food for at least a good chunk out of the day) THe human body doesn't "like" having low blood sugar and it immediately takes steps to raise it by burning off stores, and I believe it's that process that sways, and not the literal numerical amount of blood sugar in your blood******.

[maudster]

Thanks ladies!! I think that is true if I add in a snack then I will not cheat as much…During the week it is easy, weekend…not so much!

[maudster]

Does Vitex mess with your sex drive?…I feel like since I have started I have like NONE!!

[maidentomother]

It definitely could. I have a low libido due to pain meds I'm on, so I couldn't tell one way or the other. But considering how it modulates sex hormones it makes complete sense that V would lower libido.

[atomic sagebrush]

Does Vitex mess with your sex drive?…I feel like since I have started I have like NONE!!

It did that to me too (really bad! DH was not pleased) and the weird thing was, one of the reasons I was taking it was because several herb sites said it improved libido (despite its name "chasteberry" which prob. should have cued us in LOL)

[maudster]

Yeah…its brutal. It might be something I drop after 2 months TTC

[atomic sagebrush]

I have seen quite a few gals take it and drop it, then get pg with a girl the month after (me included)

[maudster]

Did you take it AF-O or for a full month?

[atomic sagebrush]

AF-O and I found that I would not ovulate until I stopped taking it (this was before we were really hip to how bad it delayed ovulation) I did this for 6 months and then my AF got really super light for 2 months and I was like, enough with the vitex already. The month I got pg, I didn't take it at all and the lack of the vitex seemed to make my ovulation occur a couple days before I expected it, and whammo, girl.

I don't like anyone taking it daily. I think it really affects odds of conception negatively.

[maudster]

Thanks!! I think I will try for 2 months and then off of vitex if no pregnancy yet.

[maudster]

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I have been testing my ovulation for this months attempt…my last one was at 9:00 am today (not first morning urine)…It is positive correct??

[True Blue]

Yes that's a positive :)

[XXforhubby]

Looks positive to me! FX and GL you catch the egg!!


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[mommymachine]

Yes it is!!! Catch that egg!

[maudster]

Thanks ladies!!! Fingers crossed!!!!

[atomic sagebrush]

good luck!

[maidentomother]

Fx for you!

[Magical22]

Good luck


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[maudster]

I was looking at the spread sheet (again) and I saw lemon or vinegar douche with 73% success….should I add this or is it worth it?? I use Rephresh right after stopping period and then usually not again because I don't want to kill everything. Should I use both?

[maidentomother]

Noooooo! Do not add douche! That is basically a statistical illusion, bc the ladies douching had overall strict sways. But douching isn't a vety effective pink sway tactic if it does anything to sway at all. And it's way overkill in addition to Rephresh.

[maudster]

Okay!! Thanks so much, I did NOT want to douche, it does not sound fun at all!!

I am having very severe ovulation pains on both sides…is this normal?? I have never felt them until within the last 6 months and not usually on both sides.

[maidentomother]

Yes, that is totally normal. O pain can vary a great deal from month to month and it usually seems worse when TTC and actively observing every little thing. Follicles develop on both sides and the swelling causes pain. Also pain can ve referred from one side to the other.

I am so glad to hear you aren't douching!

[atomic sagebrush]

I was looking at the spread sheet (again) and I saw lemon or vinegar douche with 73% success….should I add this or is it worth it?? I use Rephresh right after stopping period and then usually not again because I don't want to kill everything. Should I use both?

NO. I think the douching is a red herring and it was NOT getting 73% on Ingender, that's for sure. I have a full explanation here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/43555-thoughts-stats.html

Plus, you cannot mix douche iwth RepHresh anyway as it causes a pH spike - now, we're really not as sold on pH as they were back in the good old days but if you've used REpH. I'd stick with that and not do douche.