Who is taking clomid or femara for sway purposes ONLY?

[HealthyGirl]

I'm thinking of doing either clomid or femara for sway purposes ONLY.
Anyone else doing this or done this?

[pinkin2011]

Me. But I have requests for ultrasounds . I dont think I would do it without having scans im too much of a worrier . But thats me.

[maidentomother]

If I could get them I absolutely would. I might try (to get some from a dr) as I do have a naturally short LP, not that I think it's to blame as it never prevented conception in the past.

[Frilly Lady]

I'm seriously thinking about asking for one or the other too. Not sure which one to "mention to the doctor though"! At my age of 190 I'm guessing femara. This is my last shot so I'm going to try anything (within reason).

[atomic sagebrush]

LOL I thought I was the only 190 year old on here! :)

Bumping for more responses.

[djmommy]

I am 39 :( (Bday was last month) and I used clomid and I wasn't monitored but I do not feel it did anything good for me at all so I will not use it again. I would maybe try femera. I feel like since I stopped clomid, my cycles were a mess for about 2-3 months with very short LP.

[HealthyGirl]

Thanks djmommy.
How many cycles were you on it for?


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[maidentomother]

I am already a hyper Oer so I think I will ask for Femara if possible, as I don't want to raise my chance of multiples. I'm a pharmacist so often drs are okay with me suggesting meds.

[HealthyGirl]

Maidentomother do we know how much Femara sways?
It doesn't look any women on here took Femara.


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[atomic sagebrush]

That is because until about 4 weeks ago when we found out about that study, we thought Clomid was better based on the traditional theories of swaying. Femara has now been shown better in one study and so now people are talking about it.

Femara may be more difficult for many to get because it is an off label use - it's not as commonly used for fertility.

[HealthyGirl]

Where is this femara study?
I saw one study online about femara and increased risk of fetal abnormalities. Yikes!!!


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[atomic sagebrush]

Where is this femara study?
I saw one study online about femara and increased risk of fetal abnormalities. Yikes!!!


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That is when it is taken during pregnancy and many, many doctors and researchers lament this because they feel that it is causing people and doctors to avoid using Femara, a better drug than Clomid, for no reason. Femara leaves the human body in 45 hours instead of 5-7 days like Clomid and it will not even be in your system when you ovulate, let alone during pregnancy. Femara Link To Birth Defects Called Incorrect | Medpage Today (http://www.medpagetoday.com/OBGYN/Infertility/3144)

I don't recommend things unless I have researched them pretty thoroughly, as a general rule. :)

[atomic sagebrush]

Where is this femara study?
I saw one study online about femara and increased risk of fetal abnormalities. Yikes!!!


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The link is in this thread.

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/43736-femara-sways-now-im-scared-what-gender-did-you-get.html

[HealthyGirl]

Random question.
Does domperidone sway pink?


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[BabyGirl2013]

I used Clomid for the purpose of swaying pink only. I told my Dr. that my periods were long/irregular...not entirely untrue, however it wasn't an issue that prevented me from getting pregnant in the past. I walked out with an Rx that day. The dr didn't even think twice about prescribing it. I was monitored closely and was lucky enough to get pregnant on our first cycle. I'm 10 weeks now and biting my nails until I know if its a boy or girl!

The thought of taking Clomid for swaying purposes only seemed extreme to me a couple years ago, but after my 3rd boy I was willing to give anything a shot. It wasn't as scary as I thought it would be. I personally had no side effects at all.

[pinkin2011]

Babygitl... what cd did you take it and how many scans did you need? Did you only have 1 follicle that grew?

[atomic sagebrush]

Random question.
Does domperidone sway pink?


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Not enough info to say, but may interfere with fertility because it raises prolactin.

[atomic sagebrush]

I used Clomid for the purpose of swaying pink only. I told my Dr. that my periods were long/irregular...not entirely untrue, however it wasn't an issue that prevented me from getting pregnant in the past. I walked out with an Rx that day. The dr didn't even think twice about prescribing it. I was monitored closely and was lucky enough to get pregnant on our first cycle. I'm 10 weeks now and biting my nails until I know if its a boy or girl!

The thought of taking Clomid for swaying purposes only seemed extreme to me a couple years ago, but after my 3rd boy I was willing to give anything a shot. It wasn't as scary as I thought it would be. I personally had no side effects at all.

Good luck!

I just want to speak to Clomid being "scary" because I know many people have this impression. Millions of women have taken Clomid since the 1960's, resulting in millions of babies conceived. It's been studied extensively and while there are never any guarantees of absolute safety in anything and all medications have risks and side effects, I believe it is WAY, WAY more safe than these utterly unstudied herbs and megadose vitamins that some ladies insist on guzzling by the mouthful for gender swaying. If you want to be afraid of something in swaying, be afraid of taking 1200 mg calcium every day, of 10000 mg cranberry and aspirin and Sudafed all mixed together, be afraid of not eating potassium (or getting too much), be afraid of people drinking baking soda water and eating 5000 mg of sodium every day. Don't be afraid of Clomid. Just because something is "natural" doesn't make it safer than something chemical, at least not by definition alone.

[pinkin2011]

My mum used clomid to conceive all 4 of her kids. I am pretty much only scared of the multipules factor. And going back 35 years ago when my mum first started taking it there was no monitoring , she was told the risk of multiple pregnancy tho.

[maidentomother]

Good luck!

I just want to speak to Clomid being "scary" because I know many people have this impression. Millions of women have taken Clomid since the 1960's, resulting in millions of babies conceived. It's been studied extensively and while there are never any guarantees of absolute safety in anything and all medications have risks and side effects, I believe it is WAY, WAY more safe than these utterly unstudied herbs and megadose vitamins that some ladies insist on guzzling by the mouthful for gender swaying. If you want to be afraid of something in swaying, be afraid of taking 1200 mg calcium every day, of 10000 mg cranberry and aspirin and Sudafed all mixed together, be afraid of not eating potassium (or getting too much), be afraid of people drinking baking soda water and eating 5000 mg of sodium every day. Don't be afraid of Clomid. Just because something is "natural" doesn't make it safer than something chemical, at least not by definition alone.

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I have never known anyone who picked up their clomid from me to have a truly bad reaction or outcome. The closest would be some headaches and bad O pain, and one unmonitored lady who had trips. Obviously not all customers tell me their personal details but I am very chatty and most customers were long term regulars. And other pharmacists & techs would gossip, too. It truly is a very safe drug when used as directed and FAR safer than combining the hundreds to thousands of unstudied compounds present per one herb alone, let alone blends or several supps/OTC drugs. When it comes to meds (chemicals whether herbally derived or synthetic), and especially fertility meds, less is more.

[pinkin2011]

Maidentomother. Would 25 mg of clomid sway as much as taking 50mg do you think?

[maidentomother]

If you O on your own, 25mg is plenty to sway pink! We've had several ladies take 25mg/day for swaying purposes only. I think it's ideal to limit multiples, too.

[BabyGirl2013]

Babygitl... what cd did you take it and how many scans did you need? Did you only have 1 follicle that grew?

Pinkin2011 - I took 50mg for 5 days starting on CD 4. I was really nervous about being overstimulated since I didn't really "need" it. I had a few scans to monitor growth and during the last one it showed only one mature egg. I was thankful to know that I didn't have any chance of multiples during that cycle since only one egg was developing. I don't think I would have taken Clomid if my Dr didn't monitor everything so closely.

[atomic sagebrush]

:bowdown:

I have never known anyone who picked up their clomid from me to have a truly bad reaction or outcome. The closest would be some headaches and bad O pain, and one unmonitored lady who had trips. Obviously not all customers tell me their personal details but I am very chatty and most customers were long term regulars. And other pharmacists & techs would gossip, too. It truly is a very safe drug when used as directed and FAR safer than combining the hundreds to thousands of unstudied compounds present per one herb alone, let alone blends or several supps/OTC drugs. When it comes to meds (chemicals whether herbally derived or synthetic), and especially fertility meds, less is more.

I have had two swayers out of probably nearly 100 by now who had ocular disturbances and had to stop the Clomid. But no biggie, you just stop the Clomid when that happens. IT goes away.

One swayer I had was given 150 mg Clomid with NO MONITORING by doctor and developed OHSS but I believe this was shoddy medical advice and not anything inherent in the Clomid. She ovulated on 50, she should have stayed at 50 (she did not get pg first two months trying and they inexplicably bumped her all the way up to 150. NEVER take more than 50 mg unmonitored)

I know of two people who supposedly had 4 follicles form on 50 mg Clomid. They both had PCOS. NO way to know if all four eggs were even fertilizable as both did not (rightfully!) TTC that month.

[atomic sagebrush]

Maidentomother. Would 25 mg of clomid sway as much as taking 50mg do you think?

I personally don't think it does sway as strong and also still carries with it potential for multiples.

[HealthyGirl]

How can I ask my doctor to do scans if I'm gonna be taking clomid? I'm scared of multiples. ( the clomid won't be prescribed by him)

Is it something that I have to convince him to do and is it done at my OB or somewhere else?


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[atomic sagebrush]

Some have been able to. I would say that you're TTC and wondering if you can get a trigger shot - they have to monitor you for that. And if s/he says no, then say thank you and don't make a fuss about it.

[HealthyGirl]

You mean trigger shot of clomid?
I'm trying to stay away from asking for that since I have clomid myself.


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[atomic sagebrush]

No, a trigger shot of hcg. This doesn't sway, it's a shot that helps your body release the egg and also helps people to know when they're ovulating and when to have sex to get pregnant. Many people get trigger shots without Clomid and they have to do monitoring so they know when to give it to you.

As you can see, this begins to all get awfully complicated, doesn't it??? I wish we could just walk in to the doc's office just like any other type of business and say "hey, do this, do that" and then they'd just, you know, do it. As long as it wasn't dangerous, which it isn't. To be honest, I think that if you're that scared of multiples you're best off just leaving the Clomid alone because even with the scans, they can't always see everything.

RE where you'd have the scan done, I can't answer that because some doc's offices have ultrasounds there and others don't.

[HealthyGirl]

Wow that is all way too complicated.
I'm gonna see him this Thursday. I'm gonna disclose to him that I'm planning on taking some clomid that I have and see what he says.
He is a really laid back doctor.
I remember after my first delivery ( and having it not go so good) I jokingly told him that I wish I had gotten a c section and he said that all I needed to do was ask him for one. I don't think many doctors just offer a c section like that.


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[atomic sagebrush]

I agree way too complicated.

All you can do is what you feel comfortable with. I'm just going to warn you that whether laid back or not, prepare for a lecture and also the claim that Clomid doesn't sway pink but doctors simply haven't read the studies about it. Doctors know a ton of stuff about a ton of stuff but they'll deny Clomid sways pink because they ahven't heard about it. They may even see 50-50 conceived on Clomid but do not understand that it's because of PCOS and also the things that people do to boost fertility on Clomid that makes it look even. For the average person, it does sway pink and studies have shown it.

[pinkin2011]

My cousin is on clomid and was for her first ( a girl ) and her ob told her that she had an 80 percent chance that she would have a girl? And she did. She also has pcos. She lost alot of weight before conceiving

[atomic sagebrush]

Now that OB has the opposite problem and is inventing numbers out of thin air! :)

[HealthyGirl]

I'm not gonna mention anything about taking it to sway.
I'm gonna say I'm gonna take it bc I have a very short LP and see what he says.
I hope he doesn't think I'm crazy.





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[girliedreamz]

I have had two swayers out of probably nearly 100 by now who had ocular disturbances and had to stop the Clomid. But no biggie, you just stop the Clomid when that happens. IT goes away.

Raising hand...this is me. :) I was on 50 mg, and I just stopped right away when I had the eye pain. Sort of an aching feeling. It went away after a week or so...probably right around when the clomid left my system.

I'm curious...if I had a bad reaction to Clomid, does that mean I would react badly to Femara too? Or would it theoretically be safe to give Femara a try?

[maidentomother]

Femara has a lot fewer side effects so worth a try IMO.

[Dutchgirl]

I took Clomid 50 mg for swaying only.
I wasn't monitored wich worried me a bit. Right after Ovulation i felt a lot of cramping for days, like there was a lot going on in there. One week after my O i felt really pregnant and i never had that so early with my other pg's.

I took it from CD 3-7. I conceived the first cycle and it's only 1 baby, so no twins fortunately.
I really hope it's a girl! I'll find out after 5 weeks...

[atomic sagebrush]

Raising hand...this is me. :) I was on 50 mg, and I just stopped right away when I had the eye pain. Sort of an aching feeling. It went away after a week or so...probably right around when the clomid left my system.

I'm curious...if I had a bad reaction to Clomid, does that mean I would react badly to Femara too? Or would it theoretically be safe to give Femara a try?

Possibly, but they are different medications so I'd give it a try if your doc is willing. The worst that will happen is that you'll experience hte same issue and have to drop it like you did with the Clomid.

Thank you for chiming in!! :)

[girliedreamz]

Possibly, but they are different medications so I'd give it a try if your doc is willing. The worst that will happen is that you'll experience hte same issue and have to drop it like you did with the Clomid.

Thank you for chiming in!! :)

Thanks, atomic!

[smarston3]

Would someone be willing to pm me on how to get clomid. I work for my OB so I can't ask her


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[atomic sagebrush]

Can you go to a different doctor or ask your GP??

We really really want people to get clomid from a legit source. If you DO get it from another place please let me know so I can be sure you are not taking it in an unsafe way, but I strongly urge that everyone go through their doctor because it is a prescription medication.

[smarston3]

Can you tell me exactly what I should say? I'm worried that my GP will ask why I didn't go to my OB.


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[XXforhubby]

I would be honest with your GP and say that you don't want your OB to know. You work closely with her/him and you want to keep your relationship professional. Any doctor can respect that, if not, get a different doctor [emoji6]!


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[1more]

If anyone checks back on here I'd be interested to know, if you had a scan whilst taking clomid, how many mature follicles you had?

I'm just curious of what to expect, whether its normal to have 2-3 follicles or not.

Clomid dosage:
Days taken (3-7 etc):
Mature follicles:
Outcome:

Thanks so much for any help if anyone does come back and look!

[2lovelyboys]

I used clomid for swaying purposes only, 50mg CD3-7, no side effects, conceived on 2nd cycle with DS3 :happy:

[atomic sagebrush]

Can you tell me exactly what I should say? I'm worried that my GP will ask why I didn't go to my OB.


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I can't, because every doctor seems to react a little bit differently. I agree with XX tho, I'd mention that you work for the OB and it's just something you don't want to deal with. :)

[atomic sagebrush]

If anyone checks back on here I'd be interested to know, if you had a scan whilst taking clomid, how many mature follicles you had?

I'm just curious of what to expect, whether its normal to have 2-3 follicles or not.

Clomid dosage:
Days taken (3-7 etc):
Mature follicles:
Outcome:

Thanks so much for any help if anyone does come back and look!

I've seen this so much all over the map that I'm not convinced this info tells anyone a whole lot. I don't really want anyone on more than 50 unmonitored anyway, and I have seen quite a few people get 2-3 follicles on Clomid but only get one baby.

[1more]

I've seen this so much all over the map that I'm not convinced this info tells anyone a whole lot. I don't really want anyone on more than 50 unmonitored anyway, and I have seen quite a few people get 2-3 follicles on Clomid but only get one baby.

Thanks Atomic. That's kind of what I was getting at so just what I wanted to hear.

I didn't want to get to the scan and get put off from TTC if there were 3 follicles etc. I'm guessing with a low sperm count, the chances of all 3 being fertilised would be lower than usual anyway (although I'm aware that anything is possible!)

I did think about just taking 25, but think I will go for 50 on days 5-9 and be scanned on cd12.

[atomic sagebrush]

:agree: and many doctors will tell a couple to TTC anyway. It's harder than you think to fall pg especially with low sperm count.

I prefer 50. I know that 25 has worked for people, but I just feel like if you're going to take it, take enough so it actually works for you!

FXFXFX - and I'd ask if htey want you to come in later than CD 12 - I'm not sure stopping Clomid on CD 9 will end up with you ovulating only 3 days later as a general rule - all depends on how much you need to pay.

[smarston3]

Me again ladies,

1) I called my friend who is a PA at an RE and told her I wanted clomid for a short LP and swaying for a girl..she said I could do a "clomid package" at their office but thinks I should go to my OB

2) called my family doctor for an appt. the girl scheduling thought I was crazy calling there for an appt but reluctantly scheduled me for tomorrow..

Wish me luck!


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[maidentomother]

Good luck!

[smarston3]

Getting so nervous that this doc will want me to 1)wait longer to start anything 2) want me to see another doctor 3)think I'm full of it

However, my LP this cycle was 8 days so I'm not completely lying..but, when I talked to my friend yesterday, she thinks that I might just still be withdraw bleeding from mirena being removed last month


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[atomic sagebrush]

Probably, but hey, what they don't know won't hurt them! :)

Here is the thing to keep in mind when you go in to the doctor - the worst that they can say is no, and doctors immediately tend to forget who you are the second you leave their office.

[smarston3]

So, I struck out. Wants me to try for a year and then call my OB. Total waste of time and money


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[atomic sagebrush]

I'm sorry. I wish they'd just do it. :/

[smarston3]

Should I try soy this cycle? I either get pregnant this next cycle or not trying again until late May


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[smarston3]

Got clomid from my RE!! Doing 50mg 3-7 and scan on day 10! Thanks everyone for answering my questions


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[2lovelyboys]

Looking forward to seeing how things go, keeping my fx 4 you x

[HealthyGirl]

Glad you got some Smarston3.
Good luck


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[atomic sagebrush]

Should I try soy this cycle? I either get pregnant this next cycle or not trying again until late May


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No, I am not a fan of the results (in terms of side effects and odds of conception) on the soy.

[atomic sagebrush]

Got clomid from my RE!! Doing 50mg 3-7 and scan on day 10! Thanks everyone for answering my questions


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If at first you don't succeed, try, try again!

[ElizaB]

I took Clomid when I was 31 while being supervised by an RE. (I also had an IUI.) My understanding per my RE was that you will *usually* not ovulate multiple eggs unless you do an HCG trigger shot. Don't take that as gospel obviously, though, because I have known women who took Clomid unmonitored and did not do a trigger so ended up with twins.

I had 9 developing eggs on CD 9 (ovulated about CD 17) and we didn't do another scan. I only got pregnant with one baby. We did NOT do a trigger but did do an IUI. Had a boy. We determined ovulation and IUI timing based on OPK's. I did have bad side effects with it. Clomid made me emotionally unstable. Crying all the time. Irrational. I also was so tender in my abdomen/ovary area that I had a hard time BDing. We actually only ended up BDing one time other than the iui because of it. I have heard of many women having similar symptoms as me in terms of feeling emotionally unstable on Clomid to the point of it being called the "clomid coaster."

I have not done Femara, but have heard there are fewer side effects and a lower chance of multiples.