Anyone planning a Sept/Oct/Nov 2015 sway? Chat here!

[hopper]

Hi! Hoping to find others on the same journey as myself. We have two boys aged 3 and 1 and are planning on a pink sway later this year. I am hoping to have everything planned by July and start the LE diet then. My AF is still not the most predictable after having DS2 last year so I'll be using OPKs and I might try to temp later this spring. I can't temp at the moment as my youngest DS still wakes at night so it wouldn't be accurate. Once he starts sleeping better I'll definitely temp! I watch CM all the time, though have definitely noticed increase CM in general since having the boys. I am currently on iron tablets for anaemia and Lustral (like Zoloft) for post partum anxiety. Hoping to come off Lustral in the coming months as I am feeling much better. Contemplating asking my doctor if he might consider prescribing Clomid for my sway, I swear I will try anything that will help the sway and help keep anxiety levels at bay. I do have a hard time with anxiety in general and I'm sure that sways blue!! Any thoughts on Clomid fellow swayers?
So at the moment I am 125lbs and 5'5. I weighed 140lbs give or take when we conceived both boys, hoping I can maintain my current weight and lose another 4-5lbs on the LE diet just before our attempt. I don't know if I can give up fish for my LE diet, I eat a lot of veggies as it stands but a lot of boy friendly veg for sure so I'll need to try to change that. I definitely have a sweet tooth but I think that might be related to the lack of iron, I lack energy so my body craves sugar. My blood sugar is consistently low so that shouldn't be a problem.
As for exercise I can't lead a sedentary life with the two boys as I am chasing them daily but I get very little time to workout. I will probably do an hour brisk walking daily. Should I try fit in anything else?
We have a big family holiday in August so I will probably be slightly more relaxed about my diet while away for the two weeks, I'll try stick to it as much as I can though! The trip is to Disney World so we will be doing quite a bit of walking, at least I'll be keeping up my exercise!!
Hoping there are a few other :ttcgirl: :ttcboy: joining me on this journey! Hopefully we can buoy each other up and keep our sways going as well as possible :highfive:

[2xblue]

Hopper, how is your plan coming together? Are you starting LE in July?

I am starting strict LE in July and our first attempt will be in October. I've been eating LE style for 5 days now, trying to figure everything out before July. Actually have been pretty good with the limits, of course still some work to do. I've gone vegetarian now and started taking some supplements (folic acid, vitex and fiber).

Is there anyone else who will be ttc in Sept/Oct/Nov 2015? Would be nice to chat with others who are ttc at the same time!

[Nann3r]

I have a little girl only 2 months old! I'm already itching for another:) but I'm ttc a boy in October this year! I've already started the HE diet and began tracking ovulation for the first time ever in my life this month! I was sooo hoping for a boy first.. But hadn't heard anything about swaying. So looking back it TOTALLY makes sense why I had my daughter!! You would've thought I was swaying pink haha:)

But now I can actually try to sway for my little guy this time around! Tracking ovulation honestly is the hardest part for me!

[2xblue]

Hi Nann! Congrats on your baby girl! And good luck ttc a boy. We are ttc the same month! How do you find HE diet so far? What did you eat before you concieved your DD? Just intrested!

[Nann3r]

Hi Nann! Congrats on your baby girl! And good luck ttc a boy. We are ttc the same month! How do you find HE diet so far? What did you eat before you concieved your DD? Just intrested!

Well I was training for my first women's body building competition! Not like huge masculine style.. But the physique category - there's a big difference! :) I was in my slimming/cutting phase so I was mainly working on upping my metabolism.

I cut out ALL red meats and fats and most sodium. My proteins only consisted of turkey and chicken. I HATE veggies.. So I mostly did fruits. I strictly ate 1200-1600 calories split up through the day in tiny meals every 3 hours. I had a Greek yogurt and strawberry protein smoothie every morning. I did green beans as much as I could since those are pretty much the only veggies I can stomach! I was also taking CLA and fish oil as well as garcinia combogia (herbal weight loss pill)

I'm also a personal trainer so I worked out with my clients. I worked out an hour in the morning, ran a few miles after work, then lifted and did circuit training late at night (1-2 hours) with my husband. I was pretty consistently running 3-5 miles a day between all my workouts. LOTS OF WORKING OUT AND LOTS OF CARDIO!!

We lastly conceived in July on a camping trip! In a tent LOL!! 80+ degree weather all week with lots of hiking and sweating and running and rock climbing! Sure enough 6 weeks later I missed my period and got a BFP! -to clarify, we weren't "trying" to conceive.. We just stopped protecting or "pulled the goalie" so to speak ;) and just waited for Mother Nature to do her magic! Stopped protecting in February and conceived in July!

All that being said, I don't think I was getting enough calories for the amount of calories I was exerting. So I def think if you try to do that diet, try to be healthy about it!! :)

What was you diet for your boys??? I'M interested now!! (: do tell!!


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[Nann3r]

Hi Nann! Congrats on your baby girl! And good luck ttc a boy. We are ttc the same month! How do you find HE diet so far? What did you eat before you concieved your DD? Just intrested!

Oh and to answer your other question the HE diet is HARD for me!! But what's interesting is I was very much a sweets person before conceiving. But now that I've cut out sweets and copious amounts of sugar and upping my sodium intake through red meats and salt and upping my healthy fats like avocados etc, I find I don't crave sugar much anymore like I used to! It's really true what they say about sugar and being addicting making you crave it more and more! So yes it's hard, very hard.. But I like that I'm not dependent on chocolate and ice cream anymore:)


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[luvmyfam]

Hi girls! I have 2 amazing boys ages 6 and 3. I am hoping to start strict LE in July (or in the next couple of weeks!) and attempt in October!

[BrightSky]

Hi hopper, I'm on the diet at the moment (very on and off at the moment though) and will probably attempt August maybe September. Nann3r the HE diet looks so much easier! I'm jealous! I was actually on a pretty hard core diet and fitness regime when I conceived my son, my lowest adult weigh of 49 kilos, but I just I was eating mainly protein and veg. Still makes me nervous about the diet thing.

[Nann3r]

BrightSky I was on mostly protein (chicken and turkey) and veggies too with my daughter! However it was DEF not enough calories to compensate for my activity level!
Luvmyfam good luck to you!!! Here's some of my pink dust :)


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[2xblue]

Nann, thanks for sharing your diet when you concieved your DD. Like BrightSky said, HE diet seems so much easier! :) When I concieved my boys I had a very boyfriendly lifestyle. Always had breakfast (two slices of bread and a yoghurt or oatmeal). 5 meals a day and some snacking between. I love bananas and avocados. I was also eating alot of dairy. I love ice cream and chocolate. And always ate meat with lunch and dinner, either red meat or chicken/fish. So lots of protein. When I concieved DS1 I wasn't exercising much. Some walking with our dogs. When I concieved our DS2 I was running few times a week and did weight lifting couple times a week. Also I had lost few kilos when concieved DS2.

Luvmyfam and BrightSky, how are you doing with the LE right now? I will start the strict LE in July but I have been eating LE style for 3 weeks now. Only yesterday and today I ate soooo much of everything and didn't worry about the limits. Now feel awful about it even though I know I shouldn't because I haven't even started LE officially. We had a midsummer party with family so I thought it wouldn't hurt as I have lots of time to be strictly on LE. But why I still feel bad about it?? :D

[XXforhubby]

Nann- I'm thread crashing here! With DS1 and DS2, I ate like a hobbit, lol! Think breakfast, snack, lunch, snack, dinner, and sometimes a snack before bed. I only ate between 1400-1800 calories. My diet consisted with a lot of protein. I had a high fiber cereal in the morning, usually oats or Kashi goLean cereal (honey almond flax). Snacks were protein smoothies, nuts (fav was a small handful of walnuts and 1Tbsp raisins), banana, or Greek yogurt with 1C of mixed berries. Lunch was usually some sort of chicken salad or a turkey sandwich with chips (my weakness!!). Dinners would be some sort of grain or pasta (1/2C) with a protein and veggie (mainly broccoli, green beans, or mixed veggies). I loved brown rice or quinoa. I always cooked in olive oil and used extra virgin olive oil as a base for all of my salad dressings. If I did have sweets it was usually a small square of 85-95% dark chocolate. Exercise was usually 30min of weight lifting followed by 30-45min for cardio. I usually worked out 5 times a week. Sometimes I took a yoga class and would just lift when not attending the classes.

I swayed for a DD for my DH and we are having a third boy [emoji4]! Boys are AWESOME, and I sure hope you get one!

Here is my persistent blue, baby dust!!!

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[hopper]

Yay! Fellow swayers, maybe now I can stay on course!!!! I started a soft core LE diet on May 1st, was going well with it. Completely vegetarian all week and eating under 1500 calories but allowed myself meat at the weekends and stuck to my calorie intake in the 1500-1800 range. Then I fell off the wagon the week before last when we went away for a friend's wedding and it was a three day thing of just eating and drinking and I made a pig of myself. Came home and the gluttony continued. I feel so bad that I had a major slip lasting like two whole weeks but am hoping this week I can get back on track. I think I tried to go hard core too fast so I will take it easier this time. Lesson learned.
We are going to Disney World at the end of August for 16 days so hoping I can rein myself in and at least keep within calories even if I can't stick to fat/protein intake. I am finding that part the hardest for sure! Based on my last couple of cycles we should be able to try around mid October so if that's the case I will be back on "hardcore LE" about 5-6 weeks after this holiday. And I will be on it 9 weeks before the holiday if I go back on it this week so hoping hoping hoping it will stand to me!!
All that aside, I am going to do a HPT tomorrow! I have had more than a couple early pregnancy signs over the past week and have made myself totally paranoid. I am due my period tomorrow at the latest, my cycles are anywhere from 25-35 days but my LP is a consistent 12-13 days. I am reasonably sure I ovulated on June 9th making today 16DPO. Hoping we have not had an oopsie before even getting a chance to sway but what will be will be.

[2xblue]

Nice to hear from you hopper! Wow, did you do a HPT?

[hopper]

Nice to hear from you hopper! Wow, did you do a HPT?

I did last night and it was BFN. Lo and behold my period turned up this morning in all her glory so needless to say we will be more careful over the coming months! Most likely this is our final child so I would like to at least attempt a sway :)

How are you getting on 2xblue? Have you started the diet yet? And are you taking any supps? I am just taking Folic Acid. I got the 409µg ones in the pharmacy but wondering now if they are right. They are the standard ones the pharmacy gives out when ttc/pg but now I am thinking I read somewhere it's meant to be a higher dose... Have to pick up Fibre supps too.

Was good yesterday for first proper day back on diet. Ate 1500 calories, kept within higher ranges of fat and protein at 50g each but still within LE range. I gained 4lbs when I went off the diet so I am now 130lbs. Want to lose 10lbs before I sway so aiming at a lb each week. I am more motivated now after failing at my first diet attempt so hoping I can keep it going!! I tried to go vegetarian LE but I just can't go without meat, big carnivore that I am!! So I am allowing myself way smaller amount than usual and not eating any red meat whatsoever. I feel it's a much more doable approach than I had when I started it before. I was 140lbs when I conceived both my boys, this is the lightest I have been since I was a teenage lol. So hoping that works in my favour.

[2xblue]

Ok so now you have your change to sway! :) It's great that you are now more motivated! And your first proper day on diet sounds good. Are you doing exercise? Did you purchase a plan from Atomic btw?

I've been on LE now for the whole June. Usually sticked to the limits but some days went over, usually on fat or calories. But it's been a practice month and next week I will start the strict diet. Getting excited! Feels kind of weird that we are really going to ttc a third child! And the thought of maybe getting a girl feels overwhelming
and I just can't believe we could be that lucky. But just have to stay positive. Anything is possible. And the supps. I'm taking folic acid (it's 400 micrograms and I'm taking 3 tablets a day to get 1200 micrograms), fiber, Vitex and I will take Saw Palmetto closer to the first attempt. Oh and also Rephresh.

[Dreamofpink]

Just popping in to say that I hope to be but need DH on board first :/ Anyway, hello!

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[kitkat18]

Good luck everyone! It feels like a long time ago I was on LE diet and TTC for a girl. She is 12 weeks old now and I'm pretty sure I would not have her without this forum!! Xxx

[2xblue]

Hi Dreamofpink! I hope your DH agrees having a fourth. Did you sway with any of your children?

Kitkat, thank you! Congrats on your baby girl! All these successful sways makes me happy and hopeful.

[Dreamofpink]

12 weeks old already kitkat?! Wow! Time flies :-)
Yes, I swayed back in 2012/13 but got my gorgeous ds3 as an opposite. Been on here now for 3 years in August!

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[2xblue]

Dreamofpink, very persistent little guy your ds3 is as you did sway :) Have you planned would you do something differently if you get you dh on board and you will sway again?

[2xblue]

I just realized yesterday that we can maybe have our first attempt in the end of September (then I have been 12 weeks on LE) if my cycle will be the same. First I thought it would be in October. Really exciting! Tomorrow I will start officially my diet.

Are your DHs taking any supps? Mine just started drinking soy milk and tomorrow I will get cranberry for him. Closer to the attempt he will start drinking peppermint tea. Also I have to buy him tightey whiteys :D

[ccmear]

I am brand new, and just purchased a sway plan!! Planning on TTC a girl...hoping our first attempt will be September! I have 2 sweet boys, ages 5 and 2. So excited to be on this journey with you all![emoji120]🏻[emoji64]🏼[emoji177]


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[luvmyfam]

Hi everyone!

2x, I'm actually doing pretty good on the LE! Just started last week! DH just started OLE for our sway!

Welcome cc! It's so exciting we are getting so close!

[Nann3r]

So excited for everyone ttc soon! I'm ttc a boy! We originally said we would try in November but we changed our minds and decided on October! So I gotta bump up my start to swaying in August!! I already have a DD so pink dust to all my friends here who want a baby girl!! :)

I am worried though that I'm trying again too soon. As I heard that could sway pink. I had my DD in March and we want to ttc a boy in October. Too soon??? I just don't know!!!


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[Nann3r]

Okay so now I'm stressing out! Last month I Oed on CD15.. Well I had a +opk.. Last month I tested every day after AF and was able to distinguish the pos line slowly showing more and more each day up until CD15. When it was clearly pos.. This month, I tested starting on CD13.. It is now CD15 and there's no sign of O... Not even the faintest line.. :( am I worrying for nothing? Tracking ovulation is easier said than done!


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[hopper]

Okay so now I'm stressing out! Last month I Oed on CD15.. Well I had a +opk.. Last month I tested every day after AF and was able to distinguish the pos line slowly showing more and more each day up until CD15. When it was clearly pos.. This month, I tested starting on CD13.. It is now CD15 and there's no sign of O... Not even the faintest line.. :( am I worrying for nothing? Tracking ovulation is easier said than done!
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Just based on my own personal experience but when I track and use OPKs my O is ALWAYS different. Its as if waiting for O to happen delays it or something. Generally its delayed by about 3 days or so but every single time I have tried to use OPKs this has happened. For my girl sway we will be trying E4D and hoping thats enough because OPKs stress me out - though stress if good for a blue sway ;) Sending loads of blue dust nann3r!!

[hopper]

I just realized yesterday that we can maybe have our first attempt in the end of September (then I have been 12 weeks on LE) if my cycle will be the same. First I thought it would be in October. Really exciting! Tomorrow I will start officially my diet.

Are your DHs taking any supps? Mine just started drinking soy milk and tomorrow I will get cranberry for him. Closer to the attempt he will start drinking peppermint tea. Also I have to buy him tightey whiteys :D

Ah 2x, thats great!!! We are thinking of, well we WERE thinking of moving our sway forward to August but DH is having cold feet! Hopefully we will still sway in September anyway, he's afrraid of having an opposite and how disappointed I'll be. I have tried telling him I was sure our first DS was a girl and look, I've gotten over that and love the child beyond measure! He's my angel!!

My DH will hopefully take cran and LR. He has said not a hope of him wearing tighty whiteys haha!!

[Nann3r]

I'm swaying for a boy so i won't be of much help! But I am having DH wear boxers starting in August and he's going to be taking zinc too! We were gonna ttc in November but he suggested we bump it up to October!! :0 I'm on board of course as long as it won't ruin my sway!!! :p

Oh and DH is so worried too.. He could care less what gender we have, he's worried about me! I don't blame him I took the first one really hard.. But I love her more than life! Thinking about going green with #2 :) just so I can get excited and be excited he whole time, instead of depressed. Forces me to get excited about life in me rather than gender in me. Cuz that's what's most important!

[hopper]

I'm swaying for a boy so i won't be of much help! But I am having DH wear boxers starting in August and he's going to be taking zinc too! We were gonna ttc in November but he suggested we bump it up to October!! :0 I'm on board of course as long as it won't ruin my sway!!! :p

Oh and DH is so worried too.. He could care less what gender we have, he's worried about me! I don't blame him I took the first one really hard.. But I love her more than life! Thinking about going green with #2 :) just so I can get excited and be excited he whole time, instead of depressed. Forces me to get excited about life in me rather than gender in me. Cuz that's what's most important!

Exactly Nann3rs!! I was full sure DS1 was a girl and the SHOCK I got in the delivery room when "she" was a he was just unreal! I will never ever go team green again, I want to enjoy my pregnancy and bonding with whatever gender we have instead of hoping to be team pink and dreading being team blue - little boys are wonderful, don't get me wrong. I always wanted boys but I'm honest enough to admit I am greedy too and want to experience both!

I am currently 16 mins into my cardio. Passing time on my tab listening to The Cure lol. Showing my age ;)

[Nann3r]

Exactly Nann3rs!! I was full sure DS1 was a girl and the SHOCK I got in the delivery room when "she" was a he was just unreal! I will never ever go team green again, I want to enjoy my pregnancy and bonding with whatever gender we have instead of hoping to be team pink and dreading being team blue - little boys are wonderful, don't get me wrong. I always wanted boys but I'm honest enough to admit I am greedy too and want to experience both!

I am currently 16 mins into my cardio. Passing time on my tab listening to The Cure lol. Showing my age ;)

See with dd I was miserable:( I was so excited about the pregnancy until I heard that she was a girl. And then all I wanted was to not pregnant anymore. So the rest of my pregnancy was just awful. That's why I feel like if I go team green, I can actually be excited during my whole pregnancy like I started out in my first pregnancy.. I don't want to hear girl halfway through my pregnancy and then have to put up with the rest of my pregnancy just to meet her and finally feel attached ya know? That sounds cold.. But I didn't connect with my daughter until she was in my arms. I just wanted her out of me the entire time I was pregnant because she wasn't a boy.. :( I don't wanna hate my pregnancy again!


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[hopper]

Oh I can imagine! I think it is kinda like that for me when we were team green for DS1. I took 2 months to bond with him post partum. The babysIt had grown in my belly was not the baby I held in my arms, or at least I felt that way. I love him beyond measure now of course, I think I baby him more than DS2 and he's so affectionate everyone adores him. He was destined for me but trying to explain that to DH I am barking up the wrong tree lol. Yes, it took me a while to bond with him but I did love him and care for him in that two months, it's not like I didn't. I regret not finding out now but hey ho. DH loves being team green lol. We are like apples and oranges!!!

[has2gentlemen]

Looks like we'll joining this party! We've got two sweet boys (2 & 1) and we're hoping to try for our girl in October or November. I'm on a lenient version of the LE diet now and I'll strict it up in August, with our first try in mid October or November. We were originally going to wait and try in January, because we have a cruise booked in December, but as much as I don't want to be pregnant on another cruise (btdt), I'd much rather be pregnant than on a diet! We get pregnant too easily or we'd pull the goalie now haha.

We're torn about team green this time. We were for both our boys and loved it, but I feel like this time I want to know, because if I do get my girl- I want to buy all the pink in the world. But with DS2 I was 100% convinced he was a girl, and when he was born, my dh looked up and said "it's another boy!" And my nurses said I just sighed, laid my head down and started laughing. We love him to death but I was so hopeful! So part of me wants to know ahead of time, and part of me wants that moment in the delivery room again.

[Nann3r]

Looks like we'll joining this party! We've got two sweet boys (2 & 1) and we're hoping to try for our girl in October or November. I'm on a lenient version of the LE diet now and I'll strict it up in August, with our first try in mid October or November. We were originally going to wait and try in January, because we have a cruise booked in December, but as much as I don't want to be pregnant on another cruise (btdt), I'd much rather be pregnant than on a diet! We get pregnant too easily or we'd pull the goalie now haha.

We're torn about team green this time. We were for both our boys and loved it, but I feel like this time I want to know, because if I do get my girl- I want to buy all the pink in the world. But with DS2 I was 100% convinced he was a girl, and when he was born, my dh looked up and said "it's another boy!" And my nurses said I just sighed, laid my head down and started laughing. We love him to death but I was so hopeful! So part of me wants to know ahead of time, and part of me wants that moment in the delivery room again.

Totally understand you deciding to get pregnant earlier than later! Aside from not being able to drink, you can eat whatever you want on the cruise and pig out! (: I thought for sure DD was a boy.. But then when I heard girl, I was like.. Omg what do I buy.. I don't want any pink.. Or frills or dresses or anything girly.. So we got mostly neutral things anyways. So I already know for our next pregnancy, I'll be buying boyish clothes and things regardless of the gender. Another reason why I'm not too worried to go green :) if you know you won't be too disappointed with another boy though I totally think you should find out early:) or have them give you an envelope and read it whenever you feel ready! I just had bad gender disappointment and I really don't wanna relive gender disappointment while pregnant having 20 weeks yet to go..


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[hopper]

Looks like we'll joining this party! We've got two sweet boys (2 & 1) and we're hoping to try for our girl in October or November. I'm on a lenient version of the LE diet now and I'll strict it up in August, with our first try in mid October or November. We were originally going to wait and try in January, because we have a cruise booked in December, but as much as I don't want to be pregnant on another cruise (btdt), I'd much rather be pregnant than on a diet! We get pregnant too easily or we'd pull the goalie now haha.

We're torn about team green this time. We were for both our boys and loved it, but I feel like this time I want to know, because if I do get my girl- I want to buy all the pink in the world. But with DS2 I was 100% convinced he was a girl, and when he was born, my dh looked up and said "it's another boy!" And my nurses said I just sighed, laid my head down and started laughing. We love him to death but I was so hopeful! So part of me wants to know ahead of time, and part of me wants that moment in the delivery room again.

Welcome on board :) I can totally understand not wanting to be pg on the cruise!! We have a Disney World trip in Aug/Sept for 16 nights and we initially said we wouldn't ttc before it but the closer it gets and the longer we wait to try (its been postponed already a few times so I'm like C'mon already!!) the broodier I get!! I've been on LE since May 1st and its definitely easier when you ease yourself into it but I am honestly dreading being on holidays (with my SIL and her son) and having to try stick to LE limits without stressing. Ugh, its giving me grey hairs just thinking of it lol. We have a 3 yr old DS and 1 yr old DS and were first time lucky with them both, DH is convinced we will be first time lucky this time too but with all the swaying aspects I'm not so sure, thats why I want to attempt before our trip but so far DH is sticking with Sept at the earliest!

[Quinn31]

Hi everyone. We are going to have our first attempt in September hopefully if dh is still on board. We have two girls and he would love a son. He is so worried about having another girl that he isn't sure he even wants to try again. I tried swaying with dd2 but it took so long that I started gaining weight. I am following the HE diet much smarter this time. Not a lot of processed carbs. I'm also doing Insanity as a workout which I hope is okay since it's high intensity intervals. I am really hoping dh gets on board and it doesn't take as long, like when we got pregnant with dd1. Good luck everyone.

[Nann3r]

Hi everyone. We are going to have our first attempt in September hopefully if dh is still on board. We have two girls and he would love a son. He is so worried about having another girl that he isn't sure he even wants to try again. I tried swaying with dd2 but it took so long that I started gaining weight. I am following the HE diet much smarter this time. Not a lot of processed carbs. I'm also doing Insanity as a workout which I hope is okay since it's high intensity intervals. I am really hoping dh gets on board and it doesn't take as long, like when we got pregnant with dd1. Good luck everyone.

You and me both Quinn! Our first attempt will be in October! I'm worried to try again though and get a girl again as well. /: what all did you do to sway with your second??? I'm currently doing the HE diet as well as a truck load of supplements haha! I'm also going to be taking robitussin week of attempt. Also going to use pressed! Boxers for the DH along with coffee 30 mins prior to attempt :) praying all goes well and it works this time! (:


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[hopper]

Hey ladies, how are all of you doing? Day 19 back on diet for me and I went over fat (68g!!!!!) yesterday. Remaining positive, or as positive as I can lol. I was under on cals and protein so it's all good. One day won't break it. Although I DID have McD's today..... DUE to O tomorrow so blaming that on craving the junk!!! Still keeping up with my cardio though so it's making me feel better about everything :)

DS2 is cutting 4 molars at the same time, running a high fever the past 2 days and is so clingy. I swear, it's draining. I bake cakes for friends, not as a business or anything, but have promised a Princess castle cake to my friends 5 yr old DD for her party on Sunday and its my own mothers birthday on Sunday so wanted to do her a cake too (keeping spends to a minimum with holiday coming up in 6 weeks) and with DS2 so attached and DH working tomorrow I have NO IDEA how I will manage either cake! Just finished cardio and have two towers for the cake frosted and setting in the fridge and the bottom tier is setting (choc biscuit). Have a bazillion things to do tomorrow - stress lol. So not conducive to my sway!! ;)

[Nann3r]

I'm doing great! I'm on the HE diet but I've also been working out (heavy lifting) and I've pretty much maintained my weight! Got a +opk yesterday and still LH strong today! However I've had terrible ovulation pains that I've never experienced before.. Possible hyperovulation? I've been taking cassava root religiously..

Hopper you sound way too busy!!!! But good for you for maintaining the LE diet WHILE baking cakes! I would've stuffed my face with cake and frosting while baking :) also good job for fitting in your cardio given the chaos! :D


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[hopper]

Hmm, not sure about your O nann3r. I always get O pains for up to about a week before Our and +opks for about 3, sometimes even 4 days before actually Oing so I definitely am not one to answer your question lol. I hear you on the strong O pains though, they can be awful. What's cassava root hun? I've never really read much in the blue swaying part of the site so really should educate myself!!

Oh WAY too busy!!! Haha, well it was a close call while melting all the ingredients for the chocolate biscuit cake...I let DS1 takes over when the temptation got very severe lol. Baking together is our thing, he loves it and I love getting him involved in something I love :) He's a cake FIEND though, have no idea how the cake for my friends DD will emerge from my house unscathed!!

Just finished cardio, showered and in bed. DS2 woke just as I finished, he's so unsettled with his teeth bless him. Breaks my heart seeing him like this! Got 65 mins cardio done, around 400 cals burned so feeling less guilt over that silly McDs!!

[Nann3r]

Cassava root is like the raw version of tapioca! It's not really a blue swayed as much as a help for conception supplement. People say it's even helped to sway for twins as it can cause hyperovulation! That's why I wondered if that's why I'm having pains! I'm taking it cuz I would love twins:) no other reason really! Figured I'd give it a shot!
400cal is great! I get so bored doing cardio!!! My DD hasn't tether yet.. But it's coming!! She's been awful slobbery lately! Who knows.. She's only 3 and a half months old but her cousin started sprouting teeth this early! So maybe she will too!


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[has2gentlemen]

I'm doing pretty good- without making too many changes to my diet I'm coming in at 1600 calories, 50g protein and 45g fat on average and I'm already down 3 lbs. I've done cardio every day this week- the first two days I did aerobics and then my dh brought me a pulse ox from work and our exercise bike came in, so I've been doing that the rest of the week. I've been trying to adjust my sleep schedule too to help raise my cortisol a bit but I think that's the hardest part so far. I just love my sleep so much!


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[2xblue]

Welcome cc, has2 and Quinn!

hopper, hopefully your DH agrees ttc in August or September. Do you know are you having your first attempt next month or are you going to wait til September? I understand it's really frustrating as we put so much effort on the diet and everything! I know it's so draining when kids are sick. Our DS1 gets high fever quite often and it's such a hard time then. Our boys are almost the same age by the way. Our DS1 was born 12/11 and DS2 4/14.

Nann, it's good to hear you are doing great with the HE diet! And what a cute profile pic you have! :)

I'm doing great also with my LE diet. We have our summer holiday now and were on a 3 day cruise. I was little stressed what to eat to stay in limits but I managed it. I didn't track anything but ate salads, sandwiches and sweets. I think I was little on the lower side of calories, protein and fat but I thought better that way than to be over the limits. But omg I was looking at the foods my DH and boys ate , I wanted to have the same! And the breakfast buffet is always the best part of the cruise and now couldn't have anything! Oh well, I just kept reminding myself why I'm doing this. I saw many families with two girls or two boys. Some PPs and also to my surprise some families with two boys and a baby girl. I thought what an amazing feeling that must be to those moms and dads...

LE is going well. I'm little bored cos I eat almost the same everyday. I will start my intense cardio in two weeks. Now I have been doing moderate exercise. Looking forward to it! I bought an elliptical trainer so will use that and also going to run outside. Running is what I love but I'm sure it will be hard to do it 6 times a weeks 60mins so that's why I bought the elliptical. I can go running 3 times a week and then use the elliptical 3 times a week or something like that.

[Nann3r]

2xblue way to stick to the LE on your cruise! I work run a frozen yogurt shop so I see family all the time and I'm constantly analyzing their kids! Sometimes it makes me worry.. Seeing all girl families.. By most times I see mixed! Gives me hope in that aspect!
Good luck with your workout routine!! Best part about the LE diet and exercise for swaying pink is you lose weight! So even if you get a boy, at least you're now a hot momma;) not that you aren't already but you know what I mean :)

I've finally decided that having all my babies close is gonna have to be my route! I just get so down thinking about getting skinny again after DD only to fall preggo again.. So if I can just maintain and pop out all my babies, then I'll be done sooner so I can focus on my body indefinitely:) haha which may backfire if I have 3 kids under the age of three running and rolling around it may now matter! Me and DH have both agreed though that it'll be nicer in the long run to get out of the phases quick one after another so I'm not raising a newborn for 15 years! Some women love it! I just couldn't do it! :)


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[2xblue]

Oh and forgot to mention that I had few french fries from DS1's plate when on cruise :D I thought I had to eat something more as I was eating so little...

I analyze other people's family make up all the time! I actually don't like to analyze but I just can't stop! :D but yes, when I see mixed familys it really does give hope.

Losing weight is absolutely the best part when swaying pink! I have lost 3kg. Now my BMI is 22,8 so I have some weight to lose still. I already feel really great about the weight loss and have already bought smaller clothes :)

Nann, you are planning to have 3 kids? I think you have a very good change having a boy if you try swaying twice! I like having children in small age gap aswell. Well we don't have that close as you are planning (our DS1 and DS2 are 2y3months apart and DC3 is going to have probably the same) but I also like the idea not having a newborn for many years! Although I love newborns but it's hard work. Specially when there's toddlers around.

[shellburke77]

Hello, I'm another on board for ttc in October :) I have two beautiful boys-1 and 4 and we would love a little girl. I just started on the LE diet 2 days ago and I am just trying to get used to what I should eat to fulfill all the LE diet criteria. The first day I was too low on calories and fat and was pretty darn hungry and thinking "how the hell will I keep this up??" but then today I was okay on calories but a bit over on fat and protein: 52/56grams but felt much more satisfied. Because I am very tall and I am doing the intense cardio I am having to eat at least 1800 calories to start and I am having to eat quite alot of empty carbs to get the calories up without adding fat/protein....well I don't know if I have to but that's what I've been doing-haha! It doesn't feel like too much of a diet when you are eating lollies and drinking wine :):) But I will just have to see how the weight loss goes and may need to cut back a bit on the sweets, and eat more fruit/veg/grains etc.

I've just started trying to track ovulation with an OPK-4 days in a row when I thought I would be ovulating-nothing?? And when I started just recording my period length on FFriend app, suddenly my very regular 28 day cycle became 21 and then 19 days?!!! What is going on?? Hopefully everything settles down soon.

It's great to have some people doing their sways at the same time :)

[Nann3r]

2xblue I'm jealous you get to lose weight with your sway! I finally just gave away all my old clothes cuz with swaying almost immediately after birth I will probably never fit.. And it I do it'll be a few years! So to hell with it I'll just buy new clothes later:) I don't even wanna know my bmi right now...! Used to have a solid body getting pregnant the first time around- could be a huge part of why I got a girl first! I've never been intensely overweight by any means. I've just never weighed this much! So hopefully it's conducive to my blue sway :p

We want AT least 3 :) well okay correction... I want at least 3-4.. DH wants 2... Haha but he knows I want a son so bad.. So he is willing to try for more if need be.. But 3 is my minimum and he knows that:) and keeping them close in age will be chaos... But I'm more of a get it over all at once kind of person. Haha like ripping off a bandaid. :) then I can enjoy all my kids without any other stresses cuz I'm done getting prg!

Shellburke hello!!! Sounds like your diet is going pretty well for the most part! And I supposed it's better to be accidentally under your calories as opposed to over :p weird though about your cycle.. Yeah maybe give it another cycle or two to readjust maybe??? I just started tracking as well and I'm on my 2nd cycle of tracking. Last month, I O'd on CD 15... This month I O'd on CD 19!!! What the heck!!! So I guess we'll see where next cycle leaves me!

Here's a question for you all.. I felt ovulation occurring this cycle.. Never happened before lol. But I felt it probably 24 hours after first +opk.. So should I dtd at first +opk or should we wait till I have my ovulation pains??? Or both? Maybe I'm over complicating this... Haha:) love having all of you to chat with and to motivate me!


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[Nann3r]

Whoa that was long sorry.. Got carried away! :)


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[shellburke77]

I'd probably leave it for 12 hours or so after you get your Pos OPK...that way you are sure to be pretty close to your most fertile time?

2xblue I am so impressed with your resolve to stick to the LE diet when on your cruise-that is some serious willpower, good on you!! I have just started the intense cardio but am only going to do 4-5 times per week, as that is all I feel I can fit in with my family and work life! How long have you been on the diet? Are you finding it tough at times or is it okay? What does a typical day's food look like for you?

[2xblue]

Welcome Shellburke! Nice to have more people in this thread!

Shellburke, at first it is very hard to try figuring out what and how much to eat on LE. I started LE in June. June was a practicing month for me so I was figuring everything out. I also had cheats here and there. Now I've been 2 weeks on a strict LE. Yes I know it feels funny that you can eat sweets and drink wine on a diet haha! Hopefully your period lenght settles down soon! I don't know how I managed to be on LE on cruise lol. But usually when I decide something and want something I can be pretty determined!

My usual day is:
-no breakfast
-lunch 11/12am 3 slices of toast, low fat cheese, margarine or low fat cream cheese, tomatoes, cucumber, sometimes white grapes or a pear
-dinner 16/17pm pasta or rice, cooked vegetables (zucchini, mushrooms, pepper, cauliflower), margarine or cream cheese. Sometimes I have potatoes to get more potassium.
-about 9pm I drink white wine and eat sweets to add calories. Sometimes I have white chocolate as well.

It's been pretty easy to be on a LE but I constantly think about food lol! It's so annoying. I see all delicious recepices everywhere and I'm planning what to eat when I'm done with this :) But with all my pregnancies I've been pretty sick until 14-20weeks so that's not going to help with eating whatever I like.

Nann, don't worry about your weight. I know it's easier said than done. But you have all the time after you had your kids. Probably it will help your boy sway :) Your DH sounds amazing that he's willing to have more than 2 because of you!

[jennypenny]

Hello ladies,

Looks like I am now going to be swaying to try to conceive October/November eek!!!

Been on LE diet for a week now, and finding it ok so far!

Have been tracking my cycles all year and am getting to know my ovulation timings quite well. They appear to have settled since the birth of ds 2 as when I was trying to conceive both my boys my cycles were all over the place. So much so that docs were talking about using Clomid.

The question is, should I use this to my advantage and try to get Clomid to use for my girl sway? (Even though I don't need it?) Or just try for a natural sway without Clomid.

Hmmmm, will need to think about it!

[Nann3r]

Welcome Jenny! I'm glad the LE is working for you so far! :) if your cycles are regular, I would avoid clomid cuz it could give you twin by cussing hyperovulation! However if your not worried about it then I say try it!!!

2xblue thank you that's seriously so encouraging! That was kind of my mindset was to get them out quick and young so I'm still in my 20s when I'm done having kids! Then I can just work on my body again and get in shape to enjoy my 30s:) but in with you I can't wait till I'm pregnant and can eat whatever and do whatever! I've been avoiding running cuz I don't want to hinder my blue sway! I miss running!

Shellburk As far as ovulation though I agree I think I should wait around 12 hours to DTD after +opk. That would prob work better for me and DH's work schedule since so far I've gotten the first pos in the AM!


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[shellburke77]

Thanks for sharing your diet with me 2xblue. It sounds fairly similar to the sorts of things I am eating. How many calories are you aiming for? I find I have to make sure I eat enough at the one sitting so I can last till the next!! Totally know what you mean about thinking about food all the time!!! I chew gum and drink herbal tea in between to keep me going 😉 I don't mind the food I'm eating, it's just hard cutting out breakky and having to eat all your food in 2-3 sittings rather than grazing like I usually do. I'm looking forward to seeing if my weight starts to decrease soon ☺️. I'm hoping to lose around 8-10kilos. I am tracking on my fitness pal but it's not easy to track things properly all the time and it seems to leave out potassium a lot so I'm not really sure how much I'm getting. I've still got no pos OPK.. Weird. Hopefully things will settle, not sure what to do otherwise?!

[hopper]

Welcome Jenny and shell :) Love seeing more swayers, we will be a great support network for each other!!

Nann3r I love the idea of having them close together! We started out wanting them like that but ended up having 23 months between DS1 and DS2. The gap between DS2 and DC3 will be 28 months at the very minimum. Funnily enough I'm ok with that. We spent the first 10 years of our relationship being carefree and spend free, taking 2-3 holidays a year travelling all over the world and basically being WAY too selfish to contemplate kids! We got married when I was almost 29 and DS1 arrived 9.5 months later lol. I was 31 having DS2 and turn 33 in 2 weeks time. Would love 4 kids, DH wanted 4 until we had DS2 and he is KERAZZZZY so now its been a struggle to get DH on board for #3. I would ideally like to be done by 35 if we go for a 4th child but that might be a bit of a stretch at this stage haha!!! My friend has 3 little girls aged 3,2 and 1 and is due her 4th daughter in September. She has THE most girl friendly life ever, I need to start taking a leaf out of her book ;)

I have noticed that with MFP shellburke! It rarely has all the stats but I'm mostly tracking fat and protein so try not to worry about the rest! What CD are you on? The LE diet can shorten and lengthen your cycle and its made mine fairly irregular but supposedly thats all part of the sway! I'm on CD24 and only getting pains and EWCM today and yesterday. My LP is consistent though so thats the main thing.

Ladies on LE. Are you eating a proper main meal - like a dinner? I am finding that the hardest part of the day!! Any ideas? I am currently 125lbs, lost 1lb in the fortnight-ish since starting cardio. Would like to get down to 120lbs or so having been 140lbs since I was about 21.

[Nann3r]

Isn't it funny for us swayers now that you look around at people and guess their lifestyle and then u see their kids and your like omg I totally called that.. I see very apparent runner moms come into my shop all the time and more often then not they have all girls or at least mostly girls... And then when slightly overweight women come in they have at least one boy or all boys! It's like when you buy a new car, then you see that car everywhere now haha now that I'm swaying, I see accurate results every day without people even knowing that they're swaying!!! :)


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[2xblue]

Welcome Jenny! I don't know about the clomid. It does sway girl but I don't know is it bad to use if you have regular cycles.

Nann, I also love running. It's such an effective exercise. I can imagine how you must miss it. I missed it so much when pregnant with DS2. But I miss weight lifting now! I wish I could do it. Yes it's funny to guess people's lifestyle and see what gender they have. Sometimes you can really see why someone has that gender but also I know many thin boy moms and overweight girl moms. One lady I know has 3 girls and she is overweight. I've been wondering why she has only girls, is it because of something (like low fertility?) or is just down to luck. I know many boy moms who are very thin but I have no idea what their diet is like. Maybe they eat little but very healthy stuff? One of my neighbours has girl, boy, girl. She is overweight and she's vegetarian. Sometimes she eats chicken. It's intresting to think about these things!

Shellburke, right now I'm eating 1600cals a day. I started with 1800. I don't know should I increase it when I start my intense cardio. I guess the calorie amount depends how much weight you have to lose. By the way, I'm not sure but was tea not recommended when swaying pink? Not sure though. About potassium, I was wondering exactly the same thing when I started LE. But like hopper said MFP doesn't track all the potassium so you probably are getting more than MFP says.

hopper, I'm having pasta or rice and cooked vegetables for dinner. What have you been eating?

Today I had my usual toast for lunch and then went to a restaurant to eat dinner with my friends. I had a ceasar salad without the chicken and a glass of white wine. I have no idea how much calories, fat and protein it had but omg it was good. There was amazing dressing on it and lovely piece of foccazia bread. I should've probably not eat the dressing and bread cos I think there was too much of fat in them but oh well. I went running in the evening for 45 minutes, maybe that helped a bit. In the evening I had some sweets.

[hopper]

I aim for about 1500 cals 2x but honestly if I am having a bit of a cheat day and I stay under the upper limit of 1800 I am happy with myself. I rarely go over the 1800, maybe I have once since starting LE. I aim for 40-50g of fat if it's lower then that's great lol. The odd day I have went above that but those days have been very few. I aim for about 45g of protein but find it hard generally to get that much without increasing fat. I did today though! Lots of carb loaded, nutrient-less white bread lol.

Your dinner sounds delish 2x!! I had pasta with a tomato based sauce and a sprinkle of light cheese. Some garlic toasties to bulk it up and an Apple to finish. Would have had extra cals to play around with but had a small slice of birthday cake this morning ing and that ate up massive calories so was kinda depriving myself for the day afterwards!

I started the cardio about a fortnight ago. I haven't increased food yet but I will if I feel my weight is dropping too fast. I have lost 1lb since starting so nice and slow,hopefully I can keep it up.

Are any of you ladies taking Fibre? And how much Folic are you taking? I am using Benefiber but am switching to Chitosan tomorrow and am taking about 800mcg of Folic daily. I am also on a daily iron supplement,had hoped to be able to give it up for a while but my doctor rang today with blood results and asked that I stay on it for another 6-8 weeks! Kinda worried now about it having a negative effect on all my hard work!!

Also are any of your OHs helping you sway? My DH has said in the past he would take supplements but is having second thoughts now. I would like him to take cran and LR in an ideal world! He's cut out tea drinking, he was a tea fiend! He claims to be getting withdrawal headaches and all!!

[Pink Pony]

Hi Ladies,

I am swaying for a little girl. I started the LE Diet on the 1st of May and doing my first attempt at the end of Sept onwards.
Just wanted to wish you all the best of luck with your sways and will be following your journeys in this thread. I am pretty boring and eat basically the same foods that I know are "safe" on the LE diet.

I start my day with 2 coffees with skim milk between 6:30 and 8:30
I have my first meal round 9:30 - 2 x white toast with jam
Lunch is around 1:30 - some cracker bread (Cruskits) with humus and some cucumber with a thin slice of cheese
Dinner is around 6pm and I have veg( mushrooms/ zucchini / cauliflower and broccoli) with a dash of soy sauce, either with white rice or plain pasta.
2 glasses of white wine every night
If I am still hungry, I might have 3 blocks of white chocolate.
I might also have a cup of hebal tea or some more coffee during the course of the day.
No snacking

That's pretty much what I have been eating for 10 weeks now - boring I know! I gave up all meat and am so looking forward to a nice steak.
I take folic acid and fibre. I have hubby taking OLE extract, every time I give it to him to take - he jokes as says he thinks I am poisoning him - lol

I opted for the couch potato option, as I didn't feel like I could follow through with the exercise ( this is the only part of my sway that scares me)

Anyway, Best of luck to you all with your desired genders :)

[Nann3r]

Welcome pink pony! Hope your sway goes as planned and you get ur little pink bundle!

DH is totally on board with helping me sway! Luckily he doesn't have to do much other than be healthy! (I type this as he eats a bag of Doritos...) haha but he promised me 2 months out he will do whatever I need:) so that's super refreshing! So he's gonna take zinc and vit E and wear boxer shorts:) and coffee 30mins prior to bding!

anything else I should have DH do!?


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[shellburke77]

Hi Everyone,

I went on a holiday to Fiji recently and it was FULL of families...I couldn't help analysing whether the 'girl' mums were thinner/more athletic and the 'boy' mum's a bit heavier etc. Of course I found lots of examples to fit the theory but then hubby would point out a really overweight mum with 3 girls. Ah well...it still makes sense to me and I'm putting all my energy into giving it a shot! I just ordered a lovely rose quartz and moonstone necklace to wear :)

Pinkpony it sounds like you are doing great and are commiting to a fair while on the diet before you ttc. I notice you are in Aus too, I am in Sydney, how bout you? My hubby is taking OLE too...he was actually already on it as we use it to fight off colds in winter. I'm hoping he is on the right dose-we have the liquid type and the taste is fine and he just takes the max dose listed on the side. It's expensive though?!

Hopper-hello :) I'm on CD 16 and have only just been on LE diet properly for 5 days so it can't be that. Not sure what is going on but I've written to Atomic to ask for some advice.

It's great to have a little group going for support-we can do it girls!!!!

[Pink Pony]

Hi Nann3r,

Not to sure what's involved for a boy sway, but I do have 2 boys and my diet consisted of cereal every morning with full cream milk. Lunch was sandwiches, or I had them toasted, like ham and cheese. Dinner was always meat, salad or veg and sometimes a starch, like hot chips, potatoes.

Good luck with the sway :)

[Pink Pony]

Hi Shellburke77,

I am in Brisbane. The sway hasn't been too bad, you get used to it. I am just so determined to do everything possible, so it motivates me to continue with it. I figured the longer I was on the LE diet, hopefully the better chance I have of getting pink. I don't want any regrets.

Good luck with your sway

[jennypenny]

Thanks for the welcome everyone!

I am finding the LE diet okay the moment, as I did weight watchers last year to help shift some weight from having ds 2. Obviously doing a vegetarian version this time, but using lots of the low fat recipes and weight watchers products, bread and soups are great! For me it's portion control that I struggle with, but feel that my stomach has shrunk down and is getting used to eating so much less!

For any boy swayers, it's seems so obvious why I had two boys! I lead the boy making lifestyle completely! Big breakfast, lots of snacking, lots of attempts in my fertile window.

As others were saying, I totally study families now too and think of my friends children's genders in relation to their lifestyle and they are usually very accurate to the HE and LE lifestyles as well.

It's difficult to not get carried away though, feels awful when you read of people with perfect sways and it has not worked of them. I feel that I still need to only imagine conceiving another boy, so I don't set myself up for disappointment.

[2xblue]

Welcome Pink Pony! Your sway sounds amazing so far! You are going to be on LE a long time before your first attempt. You have great will power. Have you lost a lot of weight? Is herbal tea ok to have while swaying? Is it better than normal tea?

hopper, if you need to add protein but not fat try fat free cottage cheese. Your dinner sounds great too! Especially the tomato sauce because I never have any sauce, just plain pasta/rice and vegetables and some cream cheese/margarine to add fat/flavor. What kind of tomato sauce are you using?

I'm taking fiber twice a day. I use powder and it doesn't taste that good. I take 1200mcg of folic acid daily. I think I read somewhere in here that iron supp isn't bad for ttc girl but not sure if I remember right!

My DH is taking cranberry and drinking soy milk. And will drink peppermint tea closer to attempt. I'm actually quite surprised how he remembers to take those daily, usually I don't even have to remind him. Are any of your DHs willing to go vegetarian? Mine is not but I told him it's better for him to eat chicken or fish if he has a choise. But trying not to worry about it.

Jenny, I often find myself getting really excited about swaying and thinking we may have a really good change having a girl but then I read about failed sways that has been perfect. I feel like that's going to be us. It's hard trying to be positive and relaxed about our sway but then again trying to prepare having a third boy.

[shellburke77]

My favourite dinner by far is pasta with leeks asparagus and a squeeze of lemon and a spoon of Parmesan cheese with a glass of white wine-could eat it every night.

I've also taken to peeking into other people's trollies as I wait in line at the supermarket and analysing whether their diet is more girl or boy friendly. Weirdo. I know ��

[Nann3r]

We have been doing lots of burgers :) which I am totally okay with! And normally I'm not a greens person, but I've been trying to eat more vegetables like spinach and avocados. I also eat potatoes when I can! I've never been a breakfast person so that has been challenging.. But I usually have an egg and spinach sandwich. I'm taking a prenatal as well as potassium, fish oil, grapeseed extract, folic acid and b12. I'm also taking cassava but that's unrelated. And then for drinks I've been trying to drink the v8 splash to get more veggies in.

I get excited all the time reading about successful sways and it makes me so hopeful! But then I read fails and I'm like "yep that's probably going to be me..." I keep telling myself I'm going to have an all girl family. So I'm trying to get excited about it.. But I tried to do this too with DD and when I found out it was a girl everything shattered. I tried SO hard to get excited just in case she was a girl. Totally thought I was prepared but nope! /:


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[2xblue]

Shellburke, your dinner sounds delicious. I think I have to try it as I I'm getting bored to my usual dinner. Today I ate my normal veggies for dinner and added a new thing, rice noodles lol. Was good to have something different than regular pasta or rice. Today I bought strawberries and ate 100g of them. They were so good. Luckily they are fine when swaying pink. I made smoothie for my boys in the evening (strawberries, bananas and youghurt) and it smelled so good but didn't drink it. And I would love to eat ice cream, not a small portion but lots of it. I have always loved ice cream. Maybe I have to make a list what to eat when I'm done with swaying lol.

Nann, your diet sounds great! Can we ever be fully prepared having the opposite? I know I can't even if I'm really trying. Especially now when swaying I feel like we have a good change because if I wouldn't sway I'm 99,9% sure we would have a boy. And still I feel like we are not that lucky to get a dd. Such mixed emotions. How can I prepare myself for a third boy? I know I will love him but it's going to be so hard letting go of that dream of a daughter.

[hopper]

2x I am fairly sure that herbal tea is better than normal tea. Regular tea sways blue according to Atomic. I had a Dolmio pouch called "Creamy Tomato". Had very little fat considering how tasty it was. Like 2.6g of fat, 86 cals and 1.5g or something similarly low of protein. Great way of adding flavour to a plain bland dish! The cheese I used was a Lidl brand and it was really low in fat too so was delighted with that! I looooove cheese lol, it's been a hard one to cut down on so finding a low fat one that tastes good has been great!!

Would you believe I have NEVER eaten cottage cheese!! What does it taste like? I see people pairing it with fruit all the time so it must be nice enough...I feel like an uncultured bumpkin lol!!

I don't think we are ever prepared for getting an opposite! I did a super mild IG sway on DS2, obviously it was so so so wrong and someone over there mentioned this site so here I am since waiting to sway! I think the principles of a GD sway make way more sense and are so less convoluted than an IG sway. Though saying that I didn't do diet last time so praying this works this time. I knew though I would hear boy last time. I have had Hyperemesis lasting 20 weeks on both of them so the sickness was a dead giveaway even if nothing else in my majorly boy friendly life was lol. Am trying to remain positive and pink right now! Sometimes I look at other families with BBG and think I couldn't be as lucky as them!! And I irrationally think that there's not enough pink dust to go around so I can get my BBG too!

Under a bit of pressure with other household stuff at the moment and DH is thinking it should take precedence over another baby. I have tried explaining I am doing everything I can to LOWER my fertility and it most likely won't happen first time like our boys did. He is sceptical to say the least! I have however gotten him to start taking Cranberry supplements starting tomorrow. I got them today and switched myself over to Chitosan fibre too. Can't believe how full I am this evening after taking it! Have taken a night off cardio, instead I have had a lovely long soak in a delicious lavender essences bath!!! I am so Zen right now lol!!!

[Nann3r]

Hmm cottage cheese literally tastes like cheese to me... Like milky cheese:) but subtle.. Almost like mozzarella! Like raw mozzarella if I had to pinpoint it:) I LOVE it! Some people add fruit like peaches or pears.. My husband likes to add pepper.. Ew..


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[has2gentlemen]

Cottage cheese doesn't taste like much to me. I add salt and pepper. My kids eat it with honey or strawberries. We eat tons of it around here.


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[Pink Pony]

Thanks 2X - I have lost weight on the diet, I am petit anyway, so I have got to watch myself, but that's what chocolates are for :) :)
Atomic suggested herbal tea over normal tea, but not to have it more than 3 x a week, which is challenging. Its cold here is Australia and I just want to drink warm drinks all day long and I get tired of coffee.

My husband loves meat, so I have no chance getting him to be a vegetarian. I must say, since I have stopped eating meat, its has made my cooking for the family feel really difficult. Hoping I am successful on my first attempt and that it is a girl, so that I don't have to stay on the diet and longer than I have too.

A girl I know announced on FB last night that she is having a "princess" - she lay on the couch and got her hubby to take a picture of her tummy with a pink tiara on it. I felt so sad after seeing that. I, too am so scared of failure, I have never ever wanted something so bad, if I get my baby girl, it would be as good as winning the Lotto for me.

[Nann3r]

So hopeful for you pink pony! I'm just like you I would be over the moon if got my little boy.. I literally would feel unstoppable :) I don't know if I could ever get a smile off my face if I heard "it's a boy!" Lol


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[hopper]

Must give cottage cheese a shot then. Sounds like I would like it!

Pink pony I totally agree with you! Making food for the rest of the family seems so undesirable and a massive undertaking at the moment. I have tried not eating at the same time as them though and that helps some days! Still makes the preparation hard!

I avoid FB for similar reasons hun! I accidentally clicked the FB link on our bookmarked pages on the household laptop yesterday and DH was logged in. First thing that came up on his feed before I could even X out was a mutual acquaintances status thanking everyone on the arrival of their little girl. Sure I could only laugh - and then stew all day thinking about how easy it is for others to get their girl and I might never get mine! Ugh, hate feeling this way!!!

On a more upbeat note, after DH saying he didn't want to do supps (after originally saying he would do whatever it took!) I came downstairs this morning to find him taking 1800mg of Cranberry with his breakfast!! He didn't say anything and neither did I but I am delighted he is being slightly more supportive by helping me sway :)

Is anyone else excited for their sway? Or is it more nerves? I waver between the two!

[Ttc2015]

I just wanted to say hello and good luck to you all. Im thinking about swaying, have had one failed HT attempt and in two minds about trying again. So this autumn we are either swaying, trying one last HT attempt, or just walking away from this accepting I will never had have a daughter. Really interested to hear of your sway plans x

[hopper]

I just wanted to say hello and good luck to you all. Im thinking about swaying, have had one failed HT attempt and in two minds about trying again. So this autumn we are either swaying, trying one last HT attempt, or just walking away from this accepting I will never had have a daughter. Really interested to hear of your sway plans x

Welcome hun!! And best of luck with whatever you and your DH decide! We seem to have a lovely group of supportive mamas here so welcome on board x

[jennypenny]

Hiya,

Wondering if anyone can give me some advice:

What exactly does fibre do for the LE diet? Was gonna buy capsules as drinking it would make me puke lol!

My husband is taking licorice root and olive leaf, should he take cranberry also? Suddenly, I see lots of people talking about husbands taking it.

I have been avoiding peppers in my cooking, I'm sure I read that somewhere but now can't find what it said. Do you think peppers should be avoided even if they are ok in my overall daily calories and fat intake etc?

Thanks xxxxxx

[hopper]

Hiya,

Wondering if anyone can give me some advice:

What exactly does fibre do for the LE diet? Was gonna buy capsules as drinking it would make me puke lol!

My husband is taking licorice root and olive leaf, should he take cranberry also? Suddenly, I see lots of people talking about husbands taking it.

I have been avoiding peppers in my cooking, I'm sure I read that somewhere but now can't find what it said. Do you think peppers should be avoided even if they are ok in my overall daily calories and fat intake etc?

Thanks xxxxxx

Fibre supps help to absorb some of the fat in high fat meals but they can also help make you feel more full, therefore not needing to eat as many cals as you might usually consume. At least that's the way I feel, and the woman in the health store did mention that again to me yesterday.

There's no need for your DH to take Cranberry if he is already taking OLE. They do the same thing so shouldn't be taken together. He can either of them. The only reason I have DH taking Cranberry and not OLE is cause there's not a huge amount of stats at the moment for OLE. Atomic recommended cran recently over OLE but purely because OLE is relatively new for swaying and she can't advise based on minimal results.

I don't avoid peppers. They are a staple here. I don't use a whole lot but for the minimal calories and nutrients they are worth it. I did read that somewhere here too when I first joined but I have since read lots more threads with pink swayers eating them and it hasn't mattered to their sway. The main thing to remember is to avoid foods that raise your blood sugar and keep it high for a long period - like garlic. That's not to say I don't use it in my cooking but I would use the barest amount whereas before I would be using bucket loads!!

[2xblue]

hopper, I have to try the Dolmio sauce you mentioned! I like cottage cheese. We also eat it quite a lot around here. Many fitness people or people trying to lose weight also uses it a lot. I used to eat it in my porridge in the morning, it sounds awful combination but it's good! Your lavender bath sounds so relaxing! Wow, great that your DH took cranberry!

Pink Pony, didn't know that about herbal tea. I just thought every kind of tea should be avoided. I know, FB is bad... It makes me also really sad to see people getting girls. I feel the same way, I've never wanted anything so bad and it would feel like winning the Lotto. Hugs, hopefully our sways will work!

Hello ttc! Good luck to you! If you decide to sway we have great support here!

Jenny, like hopper said fiber absorbs fat from the food your eating. I have the powder fiber and it starts to taste bad. I just haven't found the capsules. I've been eating peppers alot, haven't heard that they could be bad for swaying pink. They are supposed to be "free food" on LE! But now I'm intrested where you guys read that. Could it maybe be old shool info?

[Ttc2015]

I think I have a lot of reading up to do on diet! I had looked at IG diet before, but this site seems to recommend either LE or French diet? Sorry, I know there is a ton of info on here it just takes time to read up on everything. I have been so focused on HT since the end of last year, have been obsessed with researching that so this is something totally new. It's really time consuming! If someone could pm me with basics of what it avoid and what to eat I'd be so grateful. From the gist of it I can see that you need to burn fat, skip breakfast, no bananas, low meat (and no charcuterie meat, minimal red meat), high calcium, low sodium and sugar? I have recently changed my diet to cut out lots of processed food so think I will be ok to restrict father, just need to know what is ok to eat. And alcohol is ok?!

Regarding supplements, I have calcium and magnesium, is there anything else I should take? Such as cranberry?

What are your thoughts on timing? I plan to follow shettles as its the opposit of what we did to conceive sons. I was thinking of dtd once per cycle, missionary and jump and dump.

I also have a weird theory that my boys were all conceived in even years and born in odd, so was thinking the opposit would he'll get a girl?!!!!

[Ttc2015]

Hi 2xblue, thanks for being so welcoming here! I recently did a detox and the nutritionist told us that to burn fat our body needs to take on fat - she advocated 'healthy fats' from things like olive oil, coconut milk, olives, avocados, fish, nuts, full fat milk/yoghurt/cream etc etc, the natural fatty acids. I take it these are not approved on girl diets?

I am skipping breakfast and having a large smoothie as a mid morning snack or lunch (depending how hungry I am!) I'm putting in spinach, blueberries, raspberries, strawberries, natural yoghurt, milk and also chia seeds and flax seeds. Do you think this is girl friendly?!

[hopper]

hopper, I have to try the Dolmio sauce you mentioned! I like cottage cheese. We also eat it quite a lot around here. Many fitness people or people trying to lose weight also uses it a lot. I used to eat it in my porridge in the morning, it sounds awful combination but it's good! Your lavender bath sounds so relaxing! Wow, great that your DH took cranberry!

Pink Pony, didn't know that about herbal tea. I just thought every kind of tea should be avoided. I know, FB is bad... It makes me also really sad to see people getting girls. I feel the same way, I've never wanted anything so bad and it would feel like winning the Lotto. Hugs, hopefully our sways will work!

Hello ttc! Good luck to you! If you decide to sway we have great support here!

Jenny, like hopper said fiber absorbs fat from the food your eating. I have the powder fiber and it starts to taste bad. I just haven't found the capsules. I've been eating peppers alot, haven't heard that they could be bad for swaying pink. They are supposed to be "free food" on LE! But now I'm intrested where you guys read that. Could it maybe be old shool info?

I was delighted with DH taking the Cran, thanks 2x. Makes me feel hes more on board with things!

As for peppers, its a "moderation" food on LE. Its a higher nutrient veg than say cauliflower or corn which are "free" foods. We just count cals of all these veggies but to be aware that peppers have more nutrients in them and the point of LE is to keep on a low nutrient diet. I don't differentiate between veggies though, stress sways more than the nutritional values of a couple of peppers ;) I wouldn't put much thought into it 2x :)

[Nann3r]

I'm right there with you on the fb issues... /: my sister in law fell pregnant with a bot while I was pregnant with a girl... She was posting so many photos talking about her son and I just couldn't do it anymore. I blocked her. We are still fb friends though, I just unfollowed her so her stuff wouldn't appear on my feed cuz it hurts so bad. It's not her fault.. I just hate feeling this way /:

Ttc2015 those are pretty boy friends foods! The milk yoghurt and cream are girlie. But the others are actually what I'm eating for TTC a boy! I've also read that flax is good for boys too.

I'm so excited but I am SO nervous to ttc.. I had very bad GD with DD.. I'm worried it'll be way worse if it happens again... Especially with my sis in laws baby coming next month... It's hard cuz she's not just a friend, she's family. So we see them all the time. I'm so scared to have another girl and come to family stuff with her girl AND boy and just be heartbroken every time we gather with family.. :( I'm terrified to say the least that it won't work..


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[Nann3r]

I'm so glad my DH is on board. He rolls his eyes every time I come up with something else swaying rated but he laughs and says he's on board for anything. So right now I have him taking tribulis, l-arginine and Coq10. :) and the HE diet as well!


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[hopper]

I think I have a lot of reading up to do on diet! I had looked at IG diet before, but this site seems to recommend either LE or French diet? Sorry, I know there is a ton of info on here it just takes time to read up on everything. I have been so focused on HT since the end of last year, have been obsessed with researching that so this is something totally new. It's really time consuming! If someone could pm me with basics of what it avoid and what to eat I'd be so grateful. From the gist of it I can see that you need to burn fat, skip breakfast, no bananas, low meat (and no charcuterie meat, minimal red meat), high calcium, low sodium and sugar? I have recently changed my diet to cut out lots of processed food so think I will be ok to restrict father, just need to know what is ok to eat. And alcohol is ok?!

The Complete Index will help you get to grips hun. Its taken me months to understand as much as I do now but I remember feeling SO overwhelmed when I started reading stuff. And lots can seem contradictory so don't be shy about asking questions on this thread. We can all learn together :)
As for foods, this link will help a bit http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/16780-low-everything-diet-nutshell-version.html Main foods to limit or avoid are red meat, fortified foods like cereal and grains etc, full fat dairy is a no-no though I DO have about 10ml in my coffee. Keep your blood sugar low, fast before breakfast ideally 12-15 hours. You can eat sugar, its good for empty calories. I don't bother with sodium limits, newest threads are saying it probably doesn't sway either way and if you stress over sodium content (cause its in EVERYTHING!) you will be swaying blue by stressing. Alcohol is swaying pink.


Regarding supplements, I have calcium and magnesium, is there anything else I should take? Such as cranberry?
Calcium and magnesium are not recommended and have been found to sway blue. Cranberry for DH is ok, anything from 1500mg to 10000mg, best to start o a small dose and increase as needed. Cran for DW is not recommended.


What are your thoughts on timing? I plan to follow shettles as its the opposit of what we did to conceive sons. I was thinking of dtd once per cycle, missionary and jump and dump.

I also have a weird theory that my boys were all conceived in even years and born in odd, so was thinking the opposit would he'll get a girl?!!!!

With respect to timing, this link http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/7691-trouble-timing.html is a very good essay explaining why timing is thought to not much matter in a girl sway. The sway tactics getting best results right now are: change of diet (mostly LE, though some are following a modified PCOS version, the FGD or Atomics fertility diet which is different to LE as it raises fertility if you are going too hardcore LE that you may risk O) We had multiple trys in my fertility window when ttc our boys, with other factors in play like my diet and moderate exercise I fully believe thats what swayed blue. We will be doing the every 4 days method this time as I get too stressed waiting on a +opk.
As for your theory, I reckon we all might have similr ones. I keep thinking the fact that my boys were conceived with 3 weeks of each other 2 years apart resulting in two Feb due dates might affect what gender I have lol. Plus for the past 3 years I have watched more and more women in my community deliver boys during spring months and autumn months and LOADS of girls are born in summer (well June and July mostly) so I would looooove a June due date next year.

Sorry if dome of my answers seem a little short or abrupt, I'm typing with one hand while consoling my teething 1 year old with the other lol :)

[hopper]

Hi 2xblue, thanks for being so welcoming here! I recently did a detox and the nutritionist told us that to burn fat our body needs to take on fat - she advocated 'healthy fats' from things like olive oil, coconut milk, olives, avocados, fish, nuts, full fat milk/yoghurt/cream etc etc, the natural fatty acids. I take it these are not approved on girl diets?

I am skipping breakfast and having a large smoothie as a mid morning snack or lunch (depending how hungry I am!) I'm putting in spinach, blueberries, raspberries, strawberries, natural yoghurt, milk and also chia seeds and flax seeds. Do you think this is girl friendly?!

Those foods are very blue friendly. Very nutrient dense and healthy fats = no no on LE :)

I would drop the spinach and blueberries, make sure the yoghurt is low fat, milk is low fat and drop the flax, maybe someone else can chime in about the chia seeds though I am thinking anything like that is blue.

[hopper]

I'm right there with you on the fb issues... /: my sister in law fell pregnant with a bot while I was pregnant with a girl... She was posting so many photos talking about her son and I just couldn't do it anymore. I blocked her. We are still fb friends though, I just unfollowed her so her stuff wouldn't appear on my feed cuz it hurts so bad. It's not her fault.. I just hate feeling this way /:

Ttc2015 those are pretty boy friends foods! The milk yoghurt and cream are girlie. But the others are actually what I'm eating for TTC a boy! I've also read that flax is good for boys too.

I'm so excited but I am SO nervous to ttc.. I had very bad GD with DD.. I'm worried it'll be way worse if it happens again... Especially with my sis in laws baby coming next month... It's hard cuz she's not just a friend, she's family. So we see them all the time. I'm so scared to have another girl and come to family stuff with her girl AND boy and just be heartbroken every time we gather with family.. :( I'm terrified to say the least that it won't work..


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I had similar issues with my BIL and his wife. She made no secret that she wanted only girls and said if she had a boy she would hand it back!!! My DS1 was 4 months old when she delivered her first DD and it broke my heart. I actually cried SO hard visiting them the day after she was born but I passed it off as happy tears. I couldn't hold it in. GD is so horrid, hopefully it won't be an issue for us ladies soon x

I feel the exact same nan!! I remember how much I wanted DS2 to be a girl and when we went for the 20 week scan and my intuition was confirmed. I was happy and sad at the same time. I hid it from everyone though, even when we got the comments of "Aww another boy!" and a big sad pitying face. My SIL who has FIVE girls and no boys said she couldn't see why we were getting so excited when we already had a boy at home. It HURT getting those comments - not my feelings per se, moreso the fact that every child is to be celebrated and I hated feeling like people weren't excited for his arrival if that makes sense...

[hopper]

I'm so glad my DH is on board. He rolls his eyes every time I come up with something else swaying rated but he laughs and says he's on board for anything. So right now I have him taking tribulis, l-arginine and Coq10. :) and the HE diet as well!


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Oh why can't MY DH be like that LMAO!! He rolls his eyes but doesn't laugh, think hes fed up with the idea of it now!! He says he just can't deal with the heart break if things don't go my way :(

[Nann3r]

Yeah me and my SIL just don't get along much either... /: so that makes it worse. But that's crazy my DD will be 4 months old when she gives birth to her DS next month. I'm terrible but I so don't want to go visit :( but I have to.. But I don't want to so bad!!! Ugh..

DH gets upset sometimes when he sees me on these sites so much. And he's SO worried we will get another girl but only for my sake. DH wants all girls... And I wanted all boys lol... Well now I'd taken even just one boy.. Lol! So I guess if it's another girl at least he'll get what he wanted /:


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[hopper]

Yeah me and my SIL just don't get along much either... /: so that makes it worse. But that's crazy my DD will be 4 months old when she gives birth to her DS next month. I'm terrible but I so don't want to go visit :( but I have to.. But I don't want to so bad!!! Ugh..

DH gets upset sometimes when he sees me on these sites so much. And he's SO worried we will get another girl but only for my sake. DH wants all girls... And I wanted all boys lol... Well now I'd taken even just one boy.. Lol! So I guess if it's another girl at least he'll get what he wanted /:


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I can totally see where you are coming from. It will be HARD, theres no denying that but unfortunately sometimes we need to do these hard things and then try move on from it. I truly hope you will have a successful blue sway hun, it sounds excellent! xx

[jennypenny]

Fibre supps help to absorb some of the fat in high fat meals but they can also help make you feel more full, therefore not needing to eat as many cals as you might usually consume. At least that's the way I feel, and the woman in the health store did mention that again to me yesterday.

There's no need for your DH to take Cranberry if he is already taking OLE. They do the same thing so shouldn't be taken together. He can either of them. The only reason I have DH taking Cranberry and not OLE is cause there's not a huge amount of stats at the moment for OLE. Atomic recommended cran recently over OLE but purely because OLE is relatively new for swaying and she can't advise based on minimal results.

I don't avoid peppers. They are a staple here. I don't use a whole lot but for the minimal calories and nutrients they are worth it. I did read that somewhere here too when I first joined but I have since read lots more threads with pink swayers eating them and it hasn't mattered to their sway. The main thing to remember is to avoid foods that raise your blood sugar and keep it high for a long period - like garlic. That's not to say I don't use it in my cooking but I would use the barest amount whereas before I would be using bucket loads!!



Thanks for all you help!!
Sometimes feel I am going round in circles! I make my mind up on sway idea and then read something that makes me totally second guess myself.

It is only my husband who knows that I am swaying and it is tricky hiding it from others, especially as my family are all big meat eaters and snackers. At the moment I am getting away with saying I am on a big diet.

My mum, sisters and sister in law would actually be interested/ amused if they knew, but just want to keep it quiet at the moment so I don't get everyone getting their hopes up for a girl!! (Sister has 2 sons, sister in law has 2 sons and I have 2 sons!!!! No girls in my family:(( )

[jennypenny]

Yeah me and my SIL just don't get along much either... /: so that makes it worse. But that's crazy my DD will be 4 months old when she gives birth to her DS next month. I'm terrible but I so don't want to go visit :( but I have to.. But I don't want to so bad!!! Ugh..

DH gets upset sometimes when he sees me on these sites so much. And he's SO worried we will get another girl but only for my sake. DH wants all girls... And I wanted all boys lol... Well now I'd taken even just one boy.. Lol! So I guess if it's another girl at least he'll get what he wanted /:


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My brother in laws annoying girlfriend has just announced she is 4 months pregnant (no phone call, found out on Facebook!)

I just know it will be a girl grrr! She lost weight earlier this year, smokes, drinks a lot , exercises and apparently this was a surprise baby. I am bracing myself for the 20 week scan announcing the news of a girl on the way, then it will be girl baby shopping and nursery decoration argh!

[Nann3r]

My brother in laws annoying girlfriend has just announced she is 4 months pregnant (no phone call, found out on Facebook!)

I just know it will be a girl grrr! She lost weight earlier this year, smokes, drinks a lot , exercises and apparently this was a surprise baby. I am bracing myself for the 20 week scan announcing the news of a girl on the way, then it will be girl baby shopping and nursery decoration argh!

Omg that's exactly what I said! They announced they were pregnant in January and I was like its a boy.. I know it is.. It is GOING to be a boy...

Then they nonchalantly invited us to a cook out in March... (They NEVER have people over.. They are so antisocial..) and I was like "it's a gender reveal.. I know it is...and I'm 8 months preggo so I'm not going that's my excuse" And DH wouldn't believe me... But I was so dead set on it being a gender reveal..

Sure enough his grandma called the day before and ask if we were coming to the GENDER REVEAL PARTY! I was like I so called that! And they didn't tell us it was a gender reveal to sneakily get us to come.. Cuz they knew I wanted a boy so bad.. Seriously they are so conniving... I'm so glad I called what it was ahead of time so I didn't go /: oh and to make matters worse- they didn't come to our gender reveal party cuz "they had a cold and didn't wanna give me a cold..." When really I think they were worried that I would have the first boy of the family.. Anyways my rant is over now :) stupid family drama lol:p thank you though for the encouragement!!


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[jennypenny]

That all sounds very familiar!!

I would never tell her I wanted a girl, it would just be rubbed in my face at every opportunity forevermore! She will know though :(

It's so difficult not to get angry/jealous at people on Facebook!! It is a platform for boasting!

I find that I am hiding more and more people's pages on Facebook! It's basically just tv programmes that I get updates from now haha! Goodbye friends, I will allow your Facebook updates again once I have conceived a girl haha :)

[cmiller1]

Hi ladies
I am starting my le diet in a week or two! I have started my folic acid and fiber! Just started vitex this week! I am scared to death of being able to stick w this diet! I am 5;5 110 pounds! Have never watched what I eat! I love food! I have two boys 4 and 2 and long for a girl! This is our last baby! We are trying in September/ October! I am just planning to diet for 6 weeks as I think any longer I will cheat more:) fello sweaters lets keep everyone on track:) love to hear what your doing! Oh and I bought the personified plan! I am going to do the 21 meal plan recipes abd follow that to a T! It will be easier then trying to figure out meals/ count everything! Anyone else doing that?

[Ttc2015]

Oh no I'm so confused now!!! Thanks so much for the links, I will read up tonight. With my glass of wine - like I need an excuse to have the odd glass of wine!!! It is confusing, as alcohol is quite calorie heavy. I had thought the point of a girl diet was to make you more acidic, less alkaline, but it seems things have moved on here and it's now about vp burning fat and basically starving yourself?!!!! My diet used to be very carb heavy, I ate a lot of pasta, cheese, potatoes. I really need to hpget things clear on my head. I also read aspartame was good for girls, so diet coke is good? And peppermint tea?!!! I have also read though that more girls are born after natural disasters where resources are scarce, I think girls survive better under harsh circumstances.

Re supplements - so no calcium and magnesium?!!! I had thought they were good for girls! But cranberry for DH but not me? Should I be taking any supplements or just starve my body of as many nutrients as possible? Sorry, I will read up tonight.

I'm quite a stress head so could explain why I have boys!

What's the every 4 days thing?

Is anyone going to get their husband to abstain for a week before dtd? I have read conflicting reports about this.

Really appreciate all your help, thank you so much.

Re FB I also know where you re coming from. Every time I hear of someone having a girl I get a physical pain. The day Princess Charlotte was born was the day AF started after our HT attempt and I knew my girl hadn't stuck. I was so so miserable and down for ages. I have a lovely sister in law, but I think she will try for no 2 soon and I'm so scared about falling pregnant at the same time as her. She has a boy and I've always been worried about feeling sad if she had a girl. I don't think I could cope if I was pregnant with a boy while she was expecting a girl. I would actually love her to have a girl, then I would have a niece and that would be amazing, a special girl in the family to be close to. It's just very hard to accept it won't happen to me, and seeing so many of my friends and family with that mother daughter bond that I crave so much.

[Ttc2015]

How much is the meal plan? I think I need guidance, I'm. Bit of an emotional eater and am hungry all the time!

[jennypenny]

Oh no I'm so confused now!!! Thanks so much for the links, I will read up tonight. With my glass of wine - like I need an excuse to have the odd glass of wine!!! It is confusing, as alcohol is quite calorie heavy. I had thought the point of a girl diet was to make you more acidic, less alkaline, but it seems things have moved on here and it's now about vp burning fat and basically starving yourself?!!!! My diet used to be very carb heavy, I ate a lot of pasta, cheese, potatoes. I really need to hpget things clear on my head. I also read aspartame was good for girls, so diet coke is good? And peppermint tea?!!! I have also read though that more girls are born after natural disasters where resources are scarce, I think girls survive better under harsh circumstances.

Re supplements - so no calcium and magnesium?!!! I had thought they were good for girls! But cranberry for DH but not me? Should I be taking any supplements or just starve my body of as many nutrients as possible? Sorry, I will read up tonight.

I'm quite a stress head so could explain why I have boys!

What's the every 4 days thing?

Is anyone going to get their husband to abstain for a week before dtd? I have read conflicting reports about this.

Really appreciate all your help, thank you so much.

Re FB I also know where you re coming from. Every time I hear of someone having a girl I get a physical pain. The day Princess Charlotte was born was the day AF started after our HT attempt and I knew my girl hadn't stuck. I was so so miserable and down for ages. I have a lovely sister in law, but I think she will try for no 2 soon and I'm so scared about falling pregnant at the same time as her. She has a boy and I've always been worried about feeling sad if she had a girl. I don't think I could cope if I was pregnant with a boy while she was expecting a girl. I would actually love her to have a girl, then I would have a niece and that would be amazing, a special girl in the family to be close to. It's just very hard to accept it won't happen to me, and seeing so many of my friends and family with that mother daughter bond that I crave so much.


Hi there :)

From what I gather, the magnesium and calcium etc is more of the old school way of swaying. A similar website called in gender seems to promote this.

This website is more about creating an environment friendly to girls, which seems to be a body that is going through harder times but still healthy.

I don't think it's about starving yourself, but eating within the daily allowances and not snacking. If you look at the amounts you are allowed you can actually create filling and healthy meals .

Sometimes I feel like I am studying for an exam with this swaying thing! I have read more essays and studies than I ever did at university haha :) There is a lot to read through, but it is definitely worth it, although I still ask questions all the time lol!

Excerise is also encouraged, for me this is a huge change but giving it a try anyway!:)

I just new princess Kate would have a girl! The woman is perfection for goodness sake ! Grrrr :)

[2xblue]

Wow you ladies have been active! That's great!

Welcome cmiller! I have a personalized plan aswell and it's great. It helps you A LOT! I have the 21 day meal plan too and first thought I would follow that but I haven't eaten anything from that plan. I don't even know why. I just figured out what to eat to be in limits and have quite the same everyday (boring I know). But for you that can be very helpful!

The pepper thing is making me confused lol! I have a printed list of grade a, b, c etc foods and it says peppers are grade a food and are free food on LE. Do I have a list which has an error or what's going on. I know this isn't a big deal but still intrested. I asked Atomic and I'm waiting for her answer.

Ttc, I know it can be very confusing! I have been studying swaying here about a year now and still have a lot questions! Those links are going to be very helpful for you. I don't think this is a starvation diet. I'm actually quite surprised that I'm not that hungry. At first I was really afraid that I'm going to be starving all the time but I'm not. White wine and light beer is good for a pink sway. Yes they have calories but you just count it in your days totals and you'll be in limits. I'm really sorry that HT didn't work for you. I can only imagine how that must feel. Hugs.


Have you ladies told anyone about swaying, other than your DHs? I haven't. I don't know if want to tell anyone at any point. But sometimes it would be so much easier to be on a diet if people knew. I haven't even told anyone how much I want a girl. Except for DH and two friends.

[Ttc2015]

Those links are really helpful, thanks again Hopper. I would have struggled to find them on my own!

[Nann3r]

I've told my mom.. And maybe one friend.. I haven't gone in depth though with EVERYTHING I'm doing haha.. Just told them about the diet really.


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[has2gentlemen]

My immediate family knows we're going to be TTC in the fall and that we are trying to do what we can to have a girl, but that's it. When I try to talk about specifics (diet limits, exercise, etc) with my mom or sister they act like it's all ridiculous, so I don't say much about it. My poor DH gets his ear talked off about "today I read" all evening haha


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[Nann3r]

Omg has2gentlemen! I'm the same way! I can't talk about swaying too much cause my family thinks it's all stupid /: and I talk my hubby's ear off too! He gets annoyed some days when that's all I wanna talk about.. So I have to filter myself sometimes


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[has2gentlemen]

My hubby thinks it's all pretty interesting so far but we've only really been talking about it for about a month. He works in the medical field though so he thinks it's cool to learn about all the different reasons why things should work the way they do.


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[hopper]

Those links are really helpful, thanks again Hopper. I would have struggled to find them on my own!

You are very welcome ttc! Did they help explain the answers to some of your questions? The LE diet isn't about starving, it's kinda like we have to deplete our bodies of a lot of healthy vitamins to try make our bodies LESS fertile. The point of prenatal vitamins is to make your body hospitable to a sperm and fertilizing that egg but seemingly too many nutrients have been found to sway blue. I'm still learning even though I am here almost a year and a half preparing for this sway lol.
The every 4 days thing is about having one attempt in your fertile window. Limiting yourself to one attempt has seen great results here but for many the stress of charting and opks clash with a pink sway so a lot are trying every 4 days now to cover their bases. It's still one attempt in your fertile window but less watching your body and building up anticipation and stress (to my way of thinking anyway!)
My DH won't do abstain plus he's almost 35 so best to avoid that for sperm health in our case. When we initially bought the custom plan the plan was to abstain but I bought it AGES ago so we are tweaking it a little at this stage!

[hopper]

Wow you ladies have been active! That's great!

Welcome cmiller! I have a personalized plan aswell and it's great. It helps you A LOT! I have the 21 day meal plan too and first thought I would follow that but I haven't eaten anything from that plan. I don't even know why. I just figured out what to eat to be in limits and have quite the same everyday (boring I know). But for you that can be very helpful!

The pepper thing is making me confused lol! I have a printed list of grade a, b, c etc foods and it says peppers are grade a food and are free food on LE. Do I have a list which has an error or what's going on. I know this isn't a big deal but still intrested. I asked Atomic and I'm waiting for her answer.

Ttc, I know it can be very confusing! I have been studying swaying here about a year now and still have a lot questions! Those links are going to be very helpful for you. I don't think this is a starvation diet. I'm actually quite surprised that I'm not that hungry. At first I was really afraid that I'm going to be starving all the time but I'm not. White wine and light beer is good for a pink sway. Yes they have calories but you just count it in your days totals and you'll be in limits. I'm really sorry that HT didn't work for you. I can only imagine how that must feel. Hugs.


Have you ladies told anyone about swaying, other than your DHs? I haven't. I don't know if want to tell anyone at any point. But sometimes it would be so much easier to be on a diet if people knew. I haven't even told anyone how much I want a girl. Except for DH and two friends.

Sorry if I confused you with the pepper thing hun. I bought my custom plan back in April 2014 so perhaps some of my literature is old compared to yours. I've just double checked it and peppers were definitely down as a moderation food then as they have more nutrients in them but sure the data is changing so much that it's probably out of date. Either way I don't bother with free foods, moderation foods or anything like that. I eat what I want, stay away from the no no foods like fortified cereal, full fat dairy, nuts, grains etc. Once I am within the limits I don't sweat it. I have always been a complete and total Martha, am currently being weaned off anti anxiety meds and I know my Martha-ness has contributed to conceiving boys in the past so in an effort to leave my Martha ways behind I *try* to not stress and avoid drama as much as possible! Even if it doesn't help my sway I have to admit this drama free existence is so much easier than I was making life for myself before!

[Nann3r]

Ok I need help with my diet. I'm pretty good on meals but for a boy I've heard snacking is important.. I just got pumpkin seeds to munch on in the car etc... What other snack foods are boy friendly??


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[Pink Pony]

Glad your DH is taking the supps , it just makes it so much easier to have them on board when swaying. I can honestly say I am really nervous... I constantly have that fear of failure, because this is my last baby. When I discussed swaying with DH, he agreed to try as long as this would be it, give it our all, and then be done. He doesn't want to be an older Dad and has a stigma attached with having lots of children. So after this, it is the end of the road. Nothing like pressure to get it right, or my dreams are shattered!

[Nann3r]

I'm so freaked out too:( I mean I feel bad because I know we will have more after this sway. Even if my sway works.. But my dreams were shattered with my first baby/: I know many of you will cringe when I say this cuz I know how badly most of you want girls, but I honestly did not want any girls. I wanted all boys.. I seriously hated the idea of having a girl.. Well God decided to throw a wrench in my plan by giving me a girl out of the gate/: I love her more than words can describe.. But I'm still picking up the pieces of my shattered dream of an all boy family.. Now I'm just praying so hard I have just a sliver of my dream with just one boy.. But I'm so worried that God is going to turn my dream upside down and give me all girls.. I'm so scared the sway won't work.. Or any sways in the future for that matter... I'm so broken over not getting a son the first time that now I just want one boy. That's it. Just one and I would be so thrilled... /: again I feel bad because I'm younger and I have many more attempts ahead... It's just all hard knowing my original dream is gone. And I may never even have a shred of my original dream.. :(


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[Nann3r]

Okay I won't complain anymore though! Positive vibes!!! :)


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[2xblue]

One of the reasons I haven't told anyone is because DH doesn't want anyone to know we are ttc. If I wanted to tell someone that would probably be my mom but I don't know would she understand the swaying stuff! But she would be very excited about the fact that we are ttc. Both my mom and my DH's mom have asked many times if we are ttc a third. Of course they would be thrilled to have a granddaughter. DH is the only one I can talk about swaying but trying not to talk too much about it cos I think he doesn't want to hear it all the time.

Has2, that's great your DH is intrested about swaying and wants to hear about it!

hopper, Atomic answered and peppers are free food on LE. So that must be old info you have :) Yes I'm also trying not to stress and avoid drama but sometimes it's impossible lol. But everyone has somekind of stress sometimes and I've read here that you shouldn't stress about having stress so that's what I'm trying to do lol.

Nann, I haven't read the ttc boy section here so I don't know what they are recommending to eat. But I guess anything healthy and nutritious is good. What about banana, avocado, whole grain sandwich, protein bars? Hugs to you, it's always hard when things don't go our way. But yes, positive vibes and I think you have a really good chance having a boy! :)

Pink Pony, I'm also nervous as this is going to be our last child. The pressure is on. I would love to be in a situation where we could have another try if this sway isn't succesful. That way the pressure and stress wouldn't be so intense. But this is it for us and I want to make everything perfect even though I know perfect sways can fail too. I probably would've gone to HT route but my DH is against it so this is my only chance getting a girl. It's hard.

[hopper]

Nan, like 2x I am not sure on recommended foods but reckon the healthy fats that we are told to avoid are the way to go for snacks. Have you checked Pinterest for protein bites? They are like a no bake oatmeal and peanut butter snack, they look yum but totally not the type of snack I can indulge in right now - as soon as I get my bfp I will be making those lol.

Thanks pink pony, it makes it easier knowing he's somewhat on board :)

Nan there is NO need to apologize for the way you feel!! You had a dream, it is no longer a reality and you are working with what you've got. I totally get that! I'd say we all do. It would be lovely to just live without GD and be able to be fully, completely and wholly happy!! I have a good feeling about our little group, fingers and toes crossed for all of us :)

Thanks for that 2x!! :) I've let my coaching lapse, really miss it!! You are SO totally right about stress! I have been THE biggest stress head my entire life. If someone shared a problem with me I would tie myself up in knots trying to figure out how to help them, definitely a "wear my heart on my sleeve" type of person. I was still that way after DS1. It's only since having DS2 I have calmed down and been able to let things go. It's no wonder I have two boys when I look back on the drama and stress I invited into my life!! Not to say I don't have stress, but I handle the stress soooo differently now. When I think of the wasted energy all those years...sure all I can do is laugh haha!

Girls we are in the same boat, well as 2x and pink! My DH says 3 is the end of the line. I would like to think that if push came to shove he would have a fourth but at the moment he's saying 3 is our max. I had a really long night the other night thinking about how I would handle the grief of never having a daughter. I still don't know if I would be able to let that dream go. DH thinks I would move on and find a new "project" though I have tried to explain swaying IS a project but the desired result of a daughter is NOT a project. And I can't just give it up :(

Strange question but I will ask anyway - do any of you believe in psychics and mediums? I am thinking of going to one nearby (well 2 hours away) who is really highly recommended. My sister had a reading done about two years ago by a different medium and at the time she thought it was all a load of #!?@ but almost everything has came to pass since then. I'm probably grasping at straws here lol.

[Ttc2015]

This is a lovely group to be part of, everyone is so helpful and supportive. Fingers crossed this works for everyone, you are certainly putting a lot of effort in - swaying isn't as easy as I had thought at first! I think I'm understanding the principles of the LE diet now, basically it's the opposite of what I've been doing! I have been trying to improve my health and been eating lots of nutrient rich foods, natural fats, full fat, and reduced processed foods drastically. So a bit of re thinking to do. I'm worried about how to translate the theory into actual meals that will not leave me hungry and will still be healthy, so I think I will need to buy a meal plan. Good news is that I have already lost some weight over the last month, so not been all bad, about 6lb, BMI is 21.

I can totally get where the theory is coming from, I have heard before that girls survive better in harsher conditions. My mum really struggled to have children and she told me my dad had a low sperm count (TMI, ha ha!) so they had me after a couple years of trying and then had my sister almost 6 years later. BUT then my little brother arrived very unexpectedly a couple of years later! ��

Also, I was thinking about larger ladies I know who have daughters and probably being obese lowers your fertility too? So that would explain that.

One quick questions about the diet - I'm a bit confused about grains, which are the best to eat on this diet?

Any suggestions on how to lower DH sperm count? I had thought abstaining and a hot bath! He is 33 and vegetarian, was going to ask him to up his soya intake as well as take the cranberry supps. It's been 5 years since we last conceived so I think our fertility would have naturally dropped a bit anyway, good for a sway, not so good for HT.

I'm 34. This will definitely be our last. I'm actually terrified about having another baby and how I would cope. We had always wanted 3, it was just a total shock that 2nd time round we had ID twins. Also terrified of having twins again. I felt bereft when I found out they were boys as I thought we wouldn't have any more and that was the end of the dream. It was DH who said perhaps we could have a 4th (although I suspect he was clutching at straws, anything to stop his pregnant wife bawling her eyes out!).

He didn't enjoy HT at all, took me the best part of a year to convince him. He feels really funny about it still, he isn't really keen on another attempt. He would be delighted if I said lets go for it with the swaying, said he is up for trying anything! He is really supportive, but no matter how much he tries he still doesn't really understand GD or how it makes me feel. It's such a lonely feeling and I've touched on it with friends but not really gone into detail, I'm so worried about what they will think of me. I have mentioned to one or two friends about swaying but they just laughed and said I was bonkers!

Oh, another diet question - do you think soya milk would be better than cows milk? I had been using almond milk but swapped back to dairy again thinking this was good for a sway.

We need to make a decision quick about what we want to do. Swaying would be so much easier, but Im so scared about how I would feel if I fell pregnant with another boy. I have been in the head space for so long that if I were to fall pregnant again it had to be with a girl, although I'm coming round to the idea that it's more about having number 4 than having a girl. I'm going to start on the diet and exercise now. Atomic said that there seems to be more success with people following the plan for 12 weeks. I'm not sure I could follow the diet for that long but plan to try for at least 2 months so if we def go for a sway it will be Sept or Oct.

[Ttc2015]

Hopper, afraid I'm a bit of a cynic! I would actually be really interested to see a psychic just to see what they had to say, but I think it's one of these things if you want to find something in it you will, and I tend to take these things with a massive pinch of salt. Unless you get a really good one who says things they can't possibly have guessed! You should try it, no harm! X

[Nann3r]

Thank you everyone for the support and kind words! You are all so encouraging and just like ttc2015 said this is a VERY lovely group to be a part of :)

Hopper I'm probably a cynic to when it comes to psychics and mediums.. Maybe cynic is the right word as I do believe there is validity to what they do.. I've just never wanted to dabble with spirits and the supernatural..

Ttc I don't know much about swaying for a girl, but I CAN tell you that I was drinking almond milk and soy milk when I conceived my daughter! We had cut out almost ALL dairy.. Imagine that lol!! DH was doing almond milk and soy milk as well. However we drank mostly almond milk. I know they say nuts sways boy, but I don't honk almond milk counts but maybe I'm wrong..

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Figured I'd introduce you all to my DD I've talked so much about so far:) where I'm at it's almost 8:00am so goodmorning everyone from myself and DD Rowan :)

Fingers and toes crossed for our whole group that our sways are successful! Praying hard for all of you! :)


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[hopper]

This is a lovely group to be part of, everyone is so helpful and supportive. Fingers crossed this works for everyone, you are certainly putting a lot of effort in - swaying isn't as easy as I had thought at first! I think I'm understanding the principles of the LE diet now, basically it's the opposite of what I've been doing! I have been trying to improve my health and been eating lots of nutrient rich foods, natural fats, full fat, and reduced processed foods drastically. So a bit of re thinking to do. I'm worried about how to translate the theory into actual meals that will not leave me hungry and will still be healthy, so I think I will need to buy a meal plan. Good news is that I have already lost some weight over the last month, so not been all bad, about 6lb, BMI is 21.

I can totally get where the theory is coming from, I have heard before that girls survive better in harsher conditions. My mum really struggled to have children and she told me my dad had a low sperm count (TMI, ha ha!) so they had me after a couple years of trying and then had my sister almost 6 years later. BUT then my little brother arrived very unexpectedly a couple of years later! ��

Also, I was thinking about larger ladies I know who have daughters and probably being obese lowers your fertility too? So that would explain that.

One quick questions about the diet - I'm a bit confused about grains, which are the best to eat on this diet?

Thats fantastic about the weight loss hun, looks like you are on the right track already. My personal advice (now I'm far from an expert) is to tweak a few things like your calcium/magnesium supps, shift to low fat foods and stay focused. You seem really driven hun, thats half the battle IMO :)
As for grains, avoid things like oatmeal, porridge etc. I've been eating wheat when I have to and avoiding cereal in general as supposedly it sways blue. Makes sense - its highly fortified.
Good point about the extra weight lowing fertility for some ladies. Thats probably very true!


Any suggestions on how to lower DH sperm count? I had thought abstaining and a hot bath! He is 33 and vegetarian, was going to ask him to up his soya intake as well as take the cranberry supps. It's been 5 years since we last conceived so I think our fertility would have naturally dropped a bit anyway, good for a sway, not so good for HT.

My DH hates soya milk so won't even consider it. Just started cran supps and I will ask him to take Licorice Root 6 weeks before we make our attempt. Hoping that helps lower his sperm count! I'll ask him to have a hot bath before trying too, I'll have a hot shower after exercise and some alcohol. Does he drink coffee/tea? My DH has given up tea now as it supposedly sways blue but coffee seems to sway a little pink, probably affects fertility too. I am 33, DH is 34. I was 30, DH was 31 when we last ttc so everything crossed the age will help a little too :) Would your DH wear tighty whiteys? Or take up cycling? Both help sway pink.
As for abstain, I'm not sure what the best option is. Maybe one of the other ladies knows better. I never really looked into it as DH would DIE if he abstained 7-10 days lol.


I'm 34. This will definitely be our last. I'm actually terrified about having another baby and how I would cope. We had always wanted 3, it was just a total shock that 2nd time round we had ID twins. Also terrified of having twins again. I felt bereft when I found out they were boys as I thought we wouldn't have any more and that was the end of the dream. It was DH who said perhaps we could have a 4th (although I suspect he was clutching at straws, anything to stop his pregnant wife bawling her eyes out!).

He didn't enjoy HT at all, took me the best part of a year to convince him. He feels really funny about it still, he isn't really keen on another attempt. He would be delighted if I said lets go for it with the swaying, said he is up for trying anything! He is really supportive, but no matter how much he tries he still doesn't really understand GD or how it makes me feel. It's such a lonely feeling and I've touched on it with friends but not really gone into detail, I'm so worried about what they will think of me. I have mentioned to one or two friends about swaying but they just laughed and said I was bonkers!

You DH sounds very sweet and supportive :) My DH is completely against HT unnfortunately, even if money wasn't an issue.
GD is a terrible thing. I always feel so judged if I mention wanting a girl so I don't anymore!! I brought it up in another online forum, mother and baby/pregnancy related and WOW did I feel *this big* by the time a moderator closed the thread. Unless you have experienced GD then you just can't know how it feels.


Oh, another diet question - do you think soya milk would be better than cows milk? I had been using almond milk but swapped back to dairy again thinking this was good for a sway.

We need to make a decision quick about what we want to do. Swaying would be so much easier, but Im so scared about how I would feel if I fell pregnant with another boy. I have been in the head space for so long that if I were to fall pregnant again it had to be with a girl, although I'm coming round to the idea that it's more about having number 4 than having a girl. I'm going to start on the diet and exercise now. Atomic said that there seems to be more success with people following the plan for 12 weeks. I'm not sure I could follow the diet for that long but plan to try for at least 2 months so if we def go for a sway it will be Sept or Oct.

I'm no help on the dairy topic, I just opt for low/no fat when I need to eat dairy. It eats into my fat/protein limits if I eat the full fat stuff and doesn't keep me full etc so its a waste.
2 months strict diet should be great hun. I started May 1st but fell off the wagon for about 2ish weeks in June. Back on track since June 22. If my cycle remains similar to what its been lately (30-35 days) I should be Oing around mid Sept and would love to make our attempt then. Are you doing cardio or couch potato?

As for the psychic thing - ah I'm probably being silly and grasping at straws. My friends mother is a medium and she says she can't see any boys "around" me. I think I'd just like to believe shes right lol.

[Ttc2015]

Oh she is gorgeous Nann! What a pretty name. That's a curse of GD isn't it, you feel like something is missing and you can't be completely happy even though you have the most beautiful wonderful children you would die for, so the guilt is horrendous. It really is one of the most wretched feelings. It was lovely to hear that you had wanted to have all boys, I have felt like most people look at me and think "I would never want that". When I was expecting he twins one lady said to me "oh god, imagine if they are boys". You just assume that most women would like to have a daughter and for some reason this has made my GD worse. I shouldn't care what other people think so much! I have lots of friends I know who have 2 or more daughters and would like a son also, but are glad they have had daughters. I hardly know anyone who has just boys.

Really interesting about the almond milk! What else did you do, lol!?!! I probably did have quite a high calorie intake when conceiving my boys, loads of pasta, meat, cheese, sugar, processed foods etc. lots of everything! I am quite tall (5ft 10) and used to have quite a fast metabolism so didn't give much thought to what I ate. We also dtd later on in the cycle, around days 18-20 (I have a long cycle) and for several days in a row, and I lay there for ages after.

[Nann3r]

Thank you!! Yeah like I said she wasn't my boy.. But she is just perfection and I can't imagine my life without her!! I am so jealous of most of you who have all boys!!! :)

When I got pregnant with my DD I was burning at least 4,000cal a day. Low carb, low fat, low sodium. So I ate mostly chicken every day and green beans. As well as fruit smoothies with Greek yogurt, almond milk and frozen strawberries or raspberries. I also would eat turkey bacon instead of real bacon. (Less fat)

It's so funny looking back because I knew nothing about swaying. I just really wanted a boy so all I did was the "rear entry" tactic and I thought that was enough.. Little did I know I was literally doing EVERYTHING that sways pink! You would've thought I was TRYING to have a girl lol..

I'm struggling with what to do with my blue sway.. I've got the food down fairly well considering there's no food you CANT eat on the he diet as long as im fully nourished! I want to run though /: I miss running and it seems to be the only way I can shrink my thunderous thighs haha. I went shopping yesterday for the first time since DD and I have over doubled my pant size /: I'm stressing out so much and battling getting thin again or swaying and what's most important to me.. I so don't want to ruin my sway.. But I'm so uncomfortable in my own body :( ugh blue sway problems haha :p


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[Ttc2015]

Go easy on yourself, you've not long had a baby! It's a huge shock the change in your body. I knew I wanted to have another baby close in age to my first so didn't see the point in trying to shift the baby weight and did no exercise for the year between. I knew nothing about swaying either. It was funny I can remember thinking that I was having another boy when I found out I was pregnant 2nd time but that I would go on to have a girl 3rd time so I wasn't too worried, then when I found out it was twins and they were boys, I felt robbed of my 3rd attempt! Now I just feel like I can't make a girl. When we went HT there was a good gender split. Actually more girls than boys, but the embryologist said that on the whole the boys were all better quality and we were obviously naturally better at making boys. I think I would need to sway very hard.

I have been having similar smoothies - strawberries and raspberries with almond milk and natural bio live yoghurt. I had been adding bananas and spinach and flax and chia seeds but keeping them out and will switch to low fat yoghurt. I have also been juicing a bit as found this good to stave off hunger pangs and avoid snacking, but now see this is too nutritious for a girl sway. Just think it's only for the short term. You can go back to exercising and eating light soon! And I can eat more!

I usually run 2-3 times a week for about 35 mins. This isn't good for girl swaying. It's hard as it's the school holidays here so I'm with my kids all day long so there is very little chance to exercise. I'm doing a horrible obstacle course race tomorrow I signed up for ages ago and have done nothing for the last couple of weeks so it's going to hurt! Think I need to join a local gym and change what I do as I can't run for an hour at a time!

[2xblue]

hopper, those oatmeal peanut butter bites sounds amazing. Have to try them when swaying is over haha! Yes the couching is great. I have asked millions of questions from Atomic lol. I'm 100% sure 3 is our max. DH would never ever agree having a fourth. He made me promise I will not want to have a fourth one if he agrees having a third. It was really hard to get him agree on third. So I just can't do it to him wanting more and more and maybe never have a dd anyway. Also I think 3 kids is what I can handle. I have never imagined myself having four kids. I have 3 siblings and I always thought we had a huge family lol. I've always wanted 2 or three.

I've never seen a psychic but I would maybe be intrested if I knew someone highly recommended. Would be really intresting too see what she would say. I think you should give it a go if you are curious!

ttc, if your bmi is already 21 you should be really careful not to lose too much weight on LE so you don't stop ovulating. 12 weeks or more on the LE has gotten the best results but if you really feel you can't do it that long I think 8 weeks is ok. White flour is pink friendly. Avoid whole grains.

Hot bath, biking, jogging, thight underwear, soy milk and cranberry are very good for DH! Soy milk is not recommended for women when swaying pink. Not sure about the almond milk. Remember dairy is not free on LE. It has lots of protein so you must count it to fit your day's totals. And try to use low fat dairy. Frequent release is recommended to my DH (he's almost 32) but I think you should ask Atomic what she thinks is best for yours. Good luck making the decision between HT and swaying. It's not an easy one to make. As for the boy families, I have many friends who have only boys and many people I know have only boys. It's hard if you don't know many boy families and feel like your the only one but we do exist! :)

Nann, your daughter is absolutely beautiful! You burned 4000 cals when you got pregnant with your dd? Wow. I understand that you worry about your weight but try to think it's just going to help with your sway! :)

I just finished my evening treat, glass of white wine, 5 Milky Ways and sweets lol! I always look forward to this moment when boys are sleeping and I can have my wine and sweets! Todays totals: 1596 calories (right now I aim at 1600 cals), 36g fat, 35g protein. Protein is little under but will fix it tomorrow.

[has2gentlemen]

I can't even imagine burning 4k cal a day. My base metabolic rate is really high (1700) but even an hour a day of aerobics or high intensity bike riding I couldn't burn another 2300! My max exercise cals have always been around 700-800 a day. Very impressive.


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[Nann3r]

Nooooo no before I conceived my DD! I'm a personal trainer and I was training to compete someday in a bodybuilding physic competition. Lol I was working out 3x a day and running 5 miles a day!


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[2xblue]

Nann, that was a lot of exercise! :)

I was thinking how can I be more positive about ttc and still prepare to hear boy. I think best for me is to stay positive, feel that my sway is good and that I have a good chance having a girl. After I get pregnant I start preparing myself having a third boy. I just can't prepare myself for that right now cos I don't want to stress about that and probably harm my sway with it. I'm just concentrating on my sway and hope for the best.

[Nann3r]

Yeah I was overdoing it. But I also wasn't even trying to sway.. I was just trying to get fit.. But yeah I'm with you 2xblue I'm just trying to stay positive. Im preparing for a girl as well and just planning names and clothes and nursery for a girl for now. And picturing sisters and planning for that so I'm ready to hear girl as much as possible. But hoping for the best too.


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[Am3a]

Hi Mums, I'm starting the LE Diet tomorrow and plan to start TTC in October/November. Can anyone recommend a good place to buy OPK's on the internet? :-)

[Nann3r]

Amazon has cheapest in my opinion! Just get a good brand:) personally I think clear blue is worth it!


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[Nann3r]

I actually use the cheap ones leading up to O so I can watch the line get faint.. Then when it gets noticeably darker than the control, I use the clear blue to confirm the LH surge. The cheap ones come in like a 50 back for $10 on Amazon!


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[has2gentlemen]

I used wondfo from Amazon when I conceived my first boy.


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[Ttc2015]

I think I need t read up on ovulation too, suddenly worried that I don't know as much as I think I do!

Welcome Am3a!

[Nann3r]

I've been tracking my cm.. When it starts to get stringy and elastic I start testing with the cheap ones! Then like I said once the cheap ones start to get fainter I test multiple times a day till the line gets as dark as the control. Once the line is as dark as or darker, I confirm with my more expensive clear blue ones and wait for the smiley!! :) then I'll text that night, and the next morning to make sure I caught the surge when it first happened so I can time when ovulation occurs most accurately :)


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[Nann3r]

It's a science but it's kinda fun!!


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[2xblue]

Welcome Am!

[Ttc2015]

What is the current thinking on douches?

Also, recommended exercise is 4 x 1 hour a week? Does it matter what kind of exercise?

What the heck is everyone eating?!

[Nann3r]

I know most moderators on this site do not recommend them, but I am probably going to do the BSF. I'm willing to take the risks just to get my little guy.
All I'm aware of as far as exercise for girls is lots of cardio- running, biking, circuits, elliptical etc! But maybe a girl swayer can help you more than that:)

Right now I have an egg sandwich every morning with a v8 splash juice. Then for lunch a spinach and avocado salad (I need to get some protein in there), then USUALLY we have burgers or chicken for dinner :) more avocado and spinach with it. I'm so picky with food so I usually resort to eating 4-5 foods only for weeks.. In this case, eggs spinach avocados and burgers lol.. :p the hardest part for me is snacking.. I can't find ANY snack foods... I have a bag of pumpkin seeds but I'm almost out.. That's seriously all I snack on and it's not even that often.


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[Ttc2015]

Do you like cashews? They are a good snack! What about rice cakes with chocolate on? I have an I quit sugar recipe book and it has some snack ideas, these little balls made from dates, cacao powder, coconut etc. Oatcakes with cream cheese/hummus? Do you like cheese? I love it. Crackers with cheese, yum. I'm really struggling not snacking!!!

Have you heard of spirulina? I'm not sure this would be good for a girl sway but might for a boy. It's packed full of nutrients, apparently the only plant based food to contain all of the essential natural fatty acids. And helps make you more alkaline, if you believe that helps.

[2xblue]

ttc, cardio 6-7×1h a week is getting the best results but 4-5 times a week is fine too if you can't do the 6-7 times a week, I think. 60min seems to be more important. I will start my intense exercise next Monday and I'm going to do running and elliptical.

Nann, your diet sounds delicious lol! I love avocados.

My friend told me early summer that she's pregnant with her second. Their first one is a boy. We are a group of four ladies, we all met when all our boys were babies. Now two of them got girls as second and I got a boy. I was so scared that this friend is also going to get a girl but yesterday she had a 20week scan and they are having another boy. I was feeling really anxious thinking they would have a girl and I hate that feeling! After she told me it's a boy I was so relieved. I don't want to feel this way, I just want to feel happy for others no matter if they have a boy or a girl. My friend seems to be very happy with another son. She told me though that she was hoping for a girl but is so happy her son gets a brother. I am happy for her of course. Just hate my own feelings sometimes.

[Nann3r]

My friend is announcing her gender on Friday too and I'm the same way.. I secretly hope it's a girl so I don't have to feel sad or jealous.. But I supposed I should work on fixing the issue on my end rather than hope they get a certain gender lol..

Ttc I haven't heard of spiralina I will have to look that up! I do love rice cakes.. And omg cheese is my stuff.. But it's so acidic.. But I will say to all the pink swayers of there that I was a cheese addict before I conceived my girl!!! So much cheese and all kinds too of different ages and regions and dairy etc! I live my cheese.. So cutting it down for my blue sway isn't easy! :p


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[Nann3r]

Okay so on a serious note.. Did I completely ruin everything????? I'm freaking out...

DH and I dtd PROTECTED over ovulation. We are only using condoms. Nothing broke. Only dtd once. Then we DTD the other day unprotected (10 days after ovulation).... So we DTD on CD28 unprotected... AF is still no where in sight... I'm panicking now.. [emoji58] what do I do...


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[Nann3r]

And to clarify I'm currently on cd30... I've never had a cycle this long:(


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[Mulberry Smurf]

When do you plan on testing? Hope that AF turns up soon xx

[Nann3r]

I don't know.. I suppose as soon as I can if AF doesn't show up... If a sperm somehow made it to an egg through a fully intact condom that would be a miracle baby.. Is it even possible to conceive 10 days after ovulation ???? How would that even work?


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[Ttc2015]

Hi Nann, I'm so new to this so I have no idea sorry. Hopefully AF shows up soon.

[Mulberry Smurf]

I believe you can ovulate twice in one cycle but that it normally happens close together not ten days apart, I doubt if you are pregnant that conception happened at CD 28 but could be wrong. Condoms are only like 98/99% effective but to me I think it's likely something has postponed your AF that is not pregnancy related. If you're technically late you should see a positive on a stick! xx

[Nann3r]

I mean technically I am only 3 days late according to my regular 28day cycle.. But I have been taking supplements that my body has never taken before.. Maybe some of those are cause delayed AF.. /: fingers crossed. Can I test this early? Would it be accurate?


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[Mulberry Smurf]

You can test on the first day of your missed period so yes should be accurate, would for for a FRER test xx

[Nann3r]

I think I have one at home.. I'll test when I get home and keep you all posted.. I suppose if I am preggo this is what I get for wanting to start soon for baby#2 lol I just didn't want it this soon!


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[Mulberry Smurf]

Make sure you haven't peed for a while first haha xx

[jennypenny]

Does anybody else get very tempted to complicate their sway?

Was being nosy reading some successful girl sways for inspiration, when I realised that so many sways had a lot more supplements than I am using! Especially sways from years ago, e.g. saw palmetto, vitex, cinnamon, antihistamine, rephresh

I understand that most of these have been dropped as they have not totally proved to make a huge difference and there is no magic pill that will convince my husbands girliest sperm to fertilize my little blue bearded boy egg lol!

it just feels like my simple diet, exercise, one attempt sway seems rather basic in comparison! Eek!

[2xblue]

Nann, have you tested? I really think it could be the supplements you have been using. But if you are pregnant that's meant to be! :)

jenny, yes me! First I wanted to take all possible supplements but now I'm relaxed a little bit. Right now I'm using folic acid and fiber. I will add Rephresh (maybe will drop that if I don't get pregnant first try) before attempt and probably Saw Palmetto. I started to take Vitex last month but it made me feel really strange so had to drop that. I have also read succesful sways and always look what supplements they used. Do you have a custom plan? I think you have to be careful what supplements to use unless Atomic said it's fine to use. But I'm really trying to be relaxed though it's hard sometimes lol. I think LE, exercise and one attempt are the strongest sway factors so you are doing great!

[Nann3r]

I'm sure I can't be pregnant... I haven't tested yet cuz I couldn't find the one I have at home... Ugh the suspense is killing me. I REALLY do think the supplements I'm taking are screwing with my cycle lol. But I suppose anything can happen


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[XXforhubby]

Nann, have you tested? I really think it could be the supplements you have been using. But if you are pregnant that's meant to be! :)

jenny, yes me! First I wanted to take all possible supplements but now I'm relaxed a little bit. Right now I'm using folic acid and fiber. I will add Rephresh (maybe will drop that if I don't get pregnant first try) before attempt and probably Saw Palmetto. I started to take Vitex last month but it made me feel really strange so had to drop that. I have also read succesful sways and always look what supplements they used. Do you have a custom plan? I think you have to be careful what supplements to use unless Atomic said it's fine to use. But I'm really trying to be relaxed though it's hard sometimes lol. I think LE, exercise and one attempt are the strongest sway factors so you are doing great!

Please, PLEASE don't take Saw Palmetto or any supplement that can affect your cycle or ovulation without the recommendation from your doctor or Atomic first!! I shared my experience doing just what you are doing- looking over successful girl sways and taking something you don't need because it MAY help! These supplements can wreck havoc on your cycle and fertility!

Here is a thread where I shared my experience with what happened to me. Please read- it is not a long thread. DON'T do what you are thinking of doing PLEASE!!!! It took me 8 months and 9 cycles to get my BFP. I believe I would be giving my DH his long awaited DD had I not ruined my cycle and fertility from the supplement I was taking, and I needed to add other things to improve my fertility just to get pregnant and counteract that supplement. Don't let this happen to you!

http://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/showpost.php?p=738505


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[jennypenny]

Please, PLEASE don't take Saw Palmetto or any supplement that can affect your cycle or ovulation without the recommendation from your doctor or Atomic first!! I shared my experience doing just what you are doing- looking over successful girl sways and taking something you don't need because it MAY help! These supplements can wreck havoc on your cycle and fertility!

Here is a thread where I shared my experience with what happened to me. Please read- it is not a long thread. DON'T do what you are thinking of doing PLEASE!!!! It took me 8 months and 9 cycles to get my BFP. I believe I would be giving my DH his long awaited DD had I not ruined my cycle and fertility from the supplement I was taking, and I needed to add other things to improve my fertility just to get pregnant and counteract that supplement. Don't let this happen to you!

http://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/showpost.php?p=738505


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Thanks for your replies!

Yes, I have read a lot about issues that supplements have caused and will definitely stick to the diet, exercise, one attempt and folic acid.

I have read more recent successful sways and they all seem less complicated and less pill popping. The sways from 2011/2012 all seem so different to the current ones. Also, great to see the updates added to atomic essays she has made last week.

[2xblue]

XX, thanks for sharing that. I have a custom plan and doing only what Atomic recommends. I would be too scared to add something by myself :)

How is everyone doing?

[Ttc2015]

I think I'm going to invest in a custom plan too. Pretty much decided we aren't going HT again, quite difficult to walk away and I'm very scared about ttc on our own but I think it's the only way we have a chance.

[Nann3r]

Just to update everyone, I'm getting a preggo test today after work and will be testing within a few hours! Fingers crossed means DH didn't screw up:(


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[jennypenny]

Good luck nann!!! Let us know how you get on :)

[Nann3r]

AF has returned! [emoji16][emoji16] I knew there was no way I was preggo!!!! Geez that was terrifying though..

[2xblue]

ttc, the custom plan is great, I really recommend it! Deciding to try swaying over HT must be so hard and scary at the same time but I really hope it will work for you!

Nann, yay! It feels funny to be happy for someone not to be pregnant lol. But I understand it is terrifying. I had a small chance being pregnant earlier this year and I really didn't want to be cos I wanted to sway. But luckily I didn't get pregnant. It really scared me.

[Nann3r]

Yeah it's bittersweet! I would've been so excited to be pregnant.. But bummed I couldn't get a full sway in! So I am glad I'm not pregnant YET ;)

[Ttc2015]

Thanks 2x, it is really hard to walk away from HT especially when you see it does work for lots of people! Just not meant to be for us. I bought the custom plan at the end of last week, still waiting to hear back.

[2xblue]

It's so quite here. I'm trying not to log in as much as I used to, trying not to obsess too much about swaying lol. I hope everyone is okay.

I started intense cardio a week ago. I've been pretty good with the diet. I don't know if I had a cheat last Saturday as I had two slices of lovely strawberry cake and didn't know how much calories, fat etc there was. I'm planning to have a cheat night in 3 weeks when we have a girls night out. Not sure am I going to eat much though but I think I'm going to drink wine during the night :)

I can't believe we will have our first attempt next month! Time goes so fast even if sometimes it feels it goes so slowly. Our summer holiday is over and now we are back to normal. Kind of like it even though it was so nice to be on holiday with our family and doing things together.

I've been on strict LE 5 weeks now. Right now it's easier, not thinking food as much as I used to. I hope it stays this way until our BFP...I'm trying not to think about swaying too much but I find myself dreaming of a little girl everyday.

Would be nice to hear how everyone is doing!

[Ttc2015]

Hi 2x, it has gone very quiet! I'm still waiting to get my personalised plan. I'm struggling with the diet, have had a big slip up last few days. I need help with meal planning. I will start my cardio in a few weeks when the schools go back. I'm going to be bridesmaid at my sisters wedding in May so this is now affecting our timing. I probably will wait until October/November. Still very scared about it all x

[Nann3r]

Too quiet! :) I'm doing okay. I'm struggling with the HE diet.. It's fun and delicious sure, but it's expensive! So much meat and potatoes.. I'm also struggling with what is NOT allowed.. Is there anything I shouldn't be eating??

As far al working out, I run a little here and there. It's taking everything in me not to work off this baby weight. :( I asked my husband last night actually if this is a good idea.. Getting pregnant only 6 months after DD was born.. He was super sweet and said he thinks it's a great idea for everyone and I will be happier keeping them close. So that was encouraging! :) just struggling with all this extra weight! I used to be a size 2-4 and now I'm like a 10-12... And I'm only 5'2"! Anyways.. I'll stop complaining :) just venting I suppose!

I am planning on waiting till oct/nov! I'm interesting to see if it's a one hit wonder or if it takes a few tries.

[has2gentlemen]

I'm still here too. Doing great on the LE diet I think. I look at week by week averages instead of daily numbers and that's been helping me avoiding stressing over it. I haven't lost any weight all month though. Still holding steady at 118. The
It's hard keeping up with the cardio with 2.5 and 1.5 year olds underfoot, so that's where I'm really struggling. I get in a bike ride 2 or 3 days a week, and we try to walk downtown for my older sons music class 1 day a week, but it's hard to find time for that hour work out every single day. We're go-go-go from 7am to 9pm and the boys don't nap at the same time, so someone is always needing me from sun up to sun down.

We're pushing our try either up or back by a month probably. Right now I'm thinking I've got 6 weeks til I get my iud out, putting our first attempt in early October but then sometimes we think it will be better to push into November or December to avoid the boy peak months and to hopefully make it through next summer before delivering. I really don't want to make the boys spend all summer in the NICU playroom.


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[Ttc2015]

Got my personalised plan. Getting everything reading for first attempt in my October cycle. Still working things out but I think I will have a few questions. Eeeeeeek!

[locsofboys]

Hi everyone, I have decided, with hubby of course, to TTC a girl this October. I have 3 gorgeous boys and I'm kind of terrified to get started. This is my last shot and I am desperately praying for success. My hubby has agreed to help in any way. I want to do everything as correct as possible to get a good chance at my sweet baby girl. Help needed!

[2xblue]

locsofboys, welcome! Swaying is scary and exciting at the same time! Are you going to get a personalized plan? I recommend it :)

Ttc, yay for the plan! Sorry that you were struggling with the diet. Did you get help with planning the meals?

Nann, sorry that you are struggling with the diet aswell. I have no idea should you avoid something on HE. Your DH sounds great, it's nice when they are encouraging, makes things easier. But I guess it's normal to feel that way, doubt your decisions. I sometimes feel that too, thinking is it really a good idea to have a third child when my boys are pretty young and is it overwhelming to have three kids. But I know I really want this.

Has2, good job doing great on LE! I know it's hard to find time to exercise. Is you DH at home in the evenings, could he sometimes be with the boys and put them to bed when you go exercising? I'm doing that sometimes. Our boys go to bed around 7.30pm so that's pretty early and I have time to do the exercise after that. I work in the evenings three times a week (otherwise I'm at home with the boys) so those days I'm doing the exercise after work which is after 8.30pm. I always have do the exercise in the evenings except on the weekends. Then I can do it earlier. I hope you can find some time to do it!

I've been doing cardio 2 weeks now. I'm more hungry now! Haven't really increased my calorie intake. I'm dreaming having a burger or something really fatty and delicious lol. I'm already counting the weeks until first attempt. I shouldn't, still 6 weeks to go.

I'm having my wisdom teeth pulled out next Tuesday and after that I can't do the exercise for five days! I'm worried about that even though I asked Atomic and she said it's fine and doesn't matter. I was thinking maybe I skip exercise for two days after and then maybe do slow walks for couple of days. Sweating isn't allowed for five days after the teeth are pulled out. I hope everything works out...

Is anyone doing anything with the ions or old wives tales when swaying? I thought of buying lavender soap but can't find. Also was thinking of buying a baby girl's dress and put it under my mattress. But not going to stress over those, just for fun :) Oh and also found my old rose quartz necklace, maybe I should use it.

[2xblue]

locsofboys, just saw your signature, I'm so sorry for the loss of your DD :(

[has2gentlemen]

DH is home in the evening, but the boys don't go to bed until 9 or 930 and by then, I've got no energy left to get on my bike.

I'm trying a few of the old wives tale type things. I switched to lavender deodorant and put a vanilla lavender air freshener in our bedroom. And I'm going to go get the last two pieces of girls clothes that I've held onto to put under our bed. I also got rid of all the baby girl clothes I had been saving in our attic from my niece, because they were all 6-10 years old anyway, but I figure having no girl clothes and an attic full of bit things might give fate the last push I need haha.


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[locsofboys]

Thanks 2xblue, It has been 13 years, but I still grieve her loss sometimes. I'm ready to put my all into swaying. My SIL has 3 girls and just gave birth to her first boy this year. She swears by the BD positions, not swaying at all, lol. But, I find myself looking at her lifestyle to see our differences. I eat healthy, mostly vegetarian, she eats a lot of fast food and a lot of meat, always has. I'm very slim, she is heavier. I'm very girly, she is a tomboy and competitive. We both don't really exercise, yet we have opposites. Hoping for a change and conceive a girl, like she got with her boy.

[locsofboys]

I just watched a youtube video of a mom who had 6 boys in a row and collapsed with surprise and joy when she found out #7 was a girl at her gender reveal party. I immediately started to cry (I mean an ugly cry) with mixed emotions. Happy that she got a girl but also sad that it took so many tries. I only have 1 try left. Maybe I'm emotional because I'm hungry and can't snack anymore.

[Nann3r]

Locsofboys That's such an awesome story about the 6 boys and 7th girl!! I would be like checking gender again at every appt!! I'm so worried I will be like that but with all girls! I'm so worried about my current sway I'm actually considering adopting for my second. That way when I do try again, I won't have to worry as much cuz I have my boy! But then again, I want more than anything to have a boy of my own blood ya know? Idk my just majorly stressing out about my sway.. I'm scared to get a girl.. I know I ton of you boy moms are cringing when I say that! But you understand me I'm sure!!

[has2gentlemen]

Locsofboys That's such an awesome story about the 6 boys and 7th girl!! I would be like checking gender again at every appt!! I'm so worried I will be like that but with all girls! I'm so worried about my current sway I'm actually considering adopting for my second. That way when I do try again, I won't have to worry as much cuz I have my boy! But then again, I want more than anything to have a boy of my own blood ya know? Idk my just majorly stressing out about my sway.. I'm scared to get a girl.. I know I ton of you boy moms are cringing when I say that! But you understand me I'm sure!!

I get it, as a boy mom. I'm terrified of hearing "it's a boy!" again, and even though I know I would love another boy just as much, in the back of my mind I am so worried that if we have a third boy, I will break down when I find out.



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[locsofboys]

Nann, I totally get it. I can just see myself backing out of the mission mid dtd, and telling hubby I'm not ready. I'm scared I won't do everything I'm supposed to. I'm still waiting on my plan so maybe that will put my mind at ease a bit.

has2, I was that way when I found out DS 2 and 3 were boys. I held my composure during the ultrasounds but broke down before I made it to the car. Every time I think of hearing those words again I get a wave of anxiety. Maybe this time around I will ask to have the gender placed in an envelope and open them when I'm mentally ready to handle the results. Either way, I will be crying uncontrollably.

[locsofboys]

has2, I just saw that you are having your IUD removed in Oct. So am I, on the 17th. Atomic advised me to leave it in until right before the attempt because its been said to help sway pink.

[has2gentlemen]

Same here. I am HATING it though and really struggling to keep it in even for 2 more months. I've had nothing but problems with it since I had it put in and I'm so ready to have it out. Especially since we can't take vitex or saw palmetto until we get af. I feel like just diet and exercise aren't going to be strong enough, since my oldest DS was straight off bc too.


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[jennypenny]

Hiya, glad to hear you are all doing well on your diets! I have not had the best week, lots of family gatherings and days out with the kids. Have had some cheats argh!! Back to business today though.

Our first attempt will now be November (it has been pushed further and further back all year!)

Sister in law is finding out her babies gender next week, she has one boy so far. I feel such a bitch for stressing out about this, but just don't know how I will react when we inevitably hear it's a girl she is having. She seems very sure it will be as everyone in her family has had boy then girl (will refer her here to see how that means nothing!) Terrible to say but I will feel so relieved if she has another boy!:(

Feel like I am jinxing myself with this attitude! It's terrible to have these feelings, I feel so guilty.

[Nann3r]

Totally know the feeling... All my friends and family (5 of them to be exact) got pregnant shortly after me. I predicted they were all boys just cuz life likes to stick it to me like that. Yep.. 5 boys.. And I got the one girl. Love her beyond words.. But REALLY?!? Cmon Mother Nature..

[jennypenny]

It's funny how you can just know sometimes!! I seem to be able predict everyone else's baby genders except my own :)

To be honest, I am surprised she even had a boy first time, she has a very girl friendly lifestyle but I suppose it's not 100%. Will let you all know next week if I was right! Haha!

[shyrro]

hi am new here am to take of my iud this month will ttc by end of the month i have a :DD: 2009 hoping for a :DS: kindly advise me on the diets or what i should do that

[has2gentlemen]

hi am new here am to take of my iud this month will ttc by end of the month i have a :DD: 2009 hoping for a :DS: kindly advise me on the diets or what i should do that

Hey, welcome! I'm not familiar with the HE diet or the TTC a boy stuff, as I'm TTC a girl after two boys, but I just wanted to say welcome to our group.


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[psophia]

Hello ladies, super new here and hubby getting vas reversal in next few weeks. Then I will be swaying girl. I have a 2 year old DD who I'm obsessed with and want a little sister for her so bad. Wohooo little girls! :) ... I'm the worst on this diet, sigh. I love meat. Lol. Does anyone think lower post vasectomy sperm count might help my cause? Can I do every 4 days bd to build it abit and still sway girl? Thanks!

[Ttc2015]

Hi everyone, not been on for a week or two. I'm very committed to swaying now and I'm trying to think positively. I'm picturing my daughter, which I've never allowed myself to do before. At the start of this process a few years ago I was completely obsessed with having a duaghter (still am a bit, can't help feeling it would make me 'complete') and if I was going to get pregnant again it HAD to be with a girl. Its been hard walking away from HT but I'm now getting to the stage where I'm just wanting a 4th child. Obviously I would prefer a girl but most of all I just want a happy healthy family. My SIL just had a miscarriage and it's rocked me a bit, I'm so sad for them and guess it has made me feel a bit bad. I still worry about GD if I have another boy but I'm feeling a bit braver about it. I'm also picturing another boy and thinking of the positives. One thing I'm dreading is how other people will react - I already get so many rude and unhelpful comments that only make my GD worse.

I got my opk strips this week. Any tips on how/when to use them is much appreciated! Diet still a struggle, but am losing weight slowly. We won't start trying until end Oct/start Nov so I'm trying to stick to it as much as possible now with a few cheats but will be going hardcore for the month before hand. Kids back to school this week so I can start exercising!

2x I have for the first time in my life bought a baby girls outfit. I have it under my bed, it can't hurt! If I don't get my daughter I'm hopeful of having a niece one day so will pass it onto her. It's so beautiful. I have bought a lavender candle, hand soap, shower gel and bath oil!!! I just bought them online. I didn't know about Rose Quartz! I'm also hoping my timing will fall in a new moon but that is all the old wives tales/ion things I m doing. I thought I might as well throw everything I can at this!

Jenny did your SIL find out the gender yet? My SIL also has a boy, I really hope they fall pregnant again soon following MC but I'm also very nervous of being pregnant at the same time as her and how I would feel if she had a girl and I didn't! Hate feeling this way!

[Ttc2015]

Oops that was quite long!

[hopper]

Hi ladies, have been totally AWOL for the past while. Turned 33 in July and had not one but two celebrations, cause I'm a glutton like that. Was doing so well up to then too but then hit a bump in the road with meals out and alcohol etc so had about 12 days of cheat ish ness! I say ish cause it was still less than I would have had before but more than I would be having on LE. Also exercise has had to take a back seat. Both my boys are in some kind of sleep regression so my evenings when I used to do my cardio are not my own. We fly to Florida for 2 weeks at Disney at the end of this week. Totallygonna cheat but not gonna worry much about protein and fat, gonna aim to keep within the upper limits of calories and hope the walking walking walking involved helps keep weight off. I am wavering between 122-124 the past while. I like the way I look now but have had more than one or two friends and family members comment I look too skinny so really don't want to lose much more.

Our attempts are hopefully starting in Sept!! I should be due to O around the 16th!! The thought makes me a little nervous!!

A friend of mine had her little boy after two girls the other day. I have to say I felt a little GD when she had him. Not cause she had her DG but cause I sometimes (irrationally I know!!) feel like there's not enough luck to go around. Everyone I know is having the DG so when it's my turn I will be the one to have an opposite. DH is dragging his feet on the sway as he thinks I will be more disappointed in having another boy after all the focus and hard work. Sometimes I wonder if he's right but I suppose I can't possibly know how I would feel unless it actually happened!

So who else is starting their attempts in Sept girls?

[Pink Pony]

Hi Hopper,

My attempt is in Sept, I should O around the 28th or so. I would have been on the LE Diet for 22 weeks by that time. I am so scared for my attempt. I know I have done/ doing everything I can possible do, but I am also worried about failure. I had horrible GD with my second boy, I cried for a month, he was an oops baby.

I keep trying to reassure myself that I have possibly given it my all for 4 and a half months, so I am hoping I am blessed with a daughter. It will be like winning the lotto in life for me. This is my last baby, if its another boy I am going to have to find away to move on from this, although I know in my heart I will be totally gutted/ angry and devastated with life if I don't succeed!

I know its a risk, but if I don't take it, I will always regret it. I have longed for my girl my whole life.

I also really want this diet to be over with. I am dying for a yummy lamb curry, calamari, hot chips, chicken, cereal, cake.... all the yummy things. I have tried my best to be a strict as I can, with a few cheats here and there for birthdays.

Anyways, fingers crossed we are both blessed with our baby girls.

[hopper]

Thanks Pink!! I am so nervous to try but I know what you mean, I will regret what might have been if we don't try! I think I MIGHT be coming to the stage where I will be ok with the outcome either way but then I also wonder if that's my mind playing tricks on me and how can I possibly know how I feel until I am confronted with the reality, if that makes sense lol.

I didn't feel disappointed in the moment with DS2. It was actually DS1 I felt that with, the guilt kills me from time to time but it is what it is. It took me several weeks to bond with him as a result of GD :( We were team green that time so made sure to find out on DS2, I bonded with him a lot easier. I think that once I know in advance I "should" be fine!

What I am not looking forward to is the comments from people when we do get pregnant like "oh I bet you went for a girl!" And then if it's a boy being asked if I'm disappointed!!! Have a bit of courtesy please and don't ask that question! I wouldn't be disappointed - I would be mourning the fact I wouldn't ever have a daughter. That's different to disappointment.

I was freaking out about the amount of cheats I have had since May 1st. I will have been on diet 20 weeks when we try but had about a total of 4 weeks of cheats, where to be honest I have still mostly stayed in the limits. Even on my very very worst cheat days I don't think I exceeded 1800 calories, I've mostly been eating 1400-1600. I haven't denied myself anything if I craved it. I have ate mostly everything except only had red meat maybe twice since May (hard for me being anaemic lol) and haven't had cereal or full fat sodas which I would have lived on before. I was vegetarian for the first 6-8 weeks but found it way too hard to fit in with my lifestyle so added back in small portions of meat and white fish. I don't eat anything very nutrient dense if I can avoid it whereas before I would have had a super healthy diet. Sometimes this diet feels like it's doing long term damage to my metabolism so I really hope we are first or second time lucky when we try.
I have been skipping breakfast since March or April 2014 when I found this site.
I was 136lbs ish when I started on this site. Got to 130 just by fasting before eating breakfast. Started diet on May 1st and weighed myself this morning. I am the lowest I have ever been at 121lbs and BMI of 19.5!! Hopefully I can keep it off between now and attempt time!!

Realised something else last night - DS2 is going through the 18 month sleep regression. It is absolute hell but I'm looking on the bright side - doesn't broken sleep sway pink lol?

On another topic, we fly out to Disney on Saturday and I have NOTHING done!!! I'm so tired from the broken sleep and really craving awful food - AF is due around the 26th while we are away. I was going to take medication to delay it but my O in Sept and Oct is due to happen during a New Moon and a girl sign - which I know doesn't really have an impact but every little sways right? Lol!!!

[Ttc2015]

Hi Hopper, good luck next month! I am also trying to get to the stage where I would be happy with another boy - not sure if I'm just deceiving myself so I'm brave enough to try or if I'm really ok with it yet. Well, I know I would be ok with it, just worried about how sad I will feel at the door finally closing on my dream of a daughter. I was like you, team green with DS1 and also struggled to bond with him at first (don't think it helped he looked NOTHING like me or my side of the family) found out with my twins and was so ready for boys by the time they arrived. I also really irrationally worry about what other people will think. I know I shouldn't pay any attention but like you I know I will get all the thoughtless comments of "I hope it's a girl" etc etc. People don't mean it but it can really make you feel rubbish. I was going to start ttc soon but now I'm bridesmaid at my sisters wedding in May so I am putting it off a couple of months. We are also thinking of going to Disneyland, in October, it would be about a month before we start trying. I will need a lot of willpower to stick to the diet!

I have never tracked my ovulation before and have irregular long cycles, any suggestions as to when I should start testing?

[2xblue]

Welcome new ones!

Ttc, I bought a baby girls little dress today. Felt so weird to go to girls section in the store. I just wanted to pick something up quickly, not to spend too much time there. I put it under our mattress. The dress is just so beautiful. Wish we'll have a little girl who can wear that. I have also started picturing our dd, never allowed myself to do that either. Sorry about you SIL.

Hi hopper! We will have our first attempt in Sept. I should O around 23.9. So there's you, Pink Pony and me having first attempt in Sept. Anyone else?

My cousin and his wife had their 3rd boy last week. Not that close to them but maybe they were hoping for a girl. My friend is pregnant with her first and she's positive they will have a girl. She only wants girls. I'm pretty sure they will have one. They are team green and is due end of Sept.

[Nann3r]

Our first attempt will be October! I'm so nervous.. But I'm just like all of you. I couldn't handle the "what-ifs" if she turns out to be a she. I've really tried to convince myself that having a DD2 will be okay. But I know I will still be very devastated.. I though for SURE I convinced myself if be happy either way with DD1 but there was no way I could get out of that GD funk.. No way. /:

We are going team green for our next pregnancy. I found out at 19 weeks with DD and it instantly made me miserable the ready of my pregnancy... I hated every day she was in me cuz I know I would connect with her once she was in my arms. And I just don't want to deal with that again. I want to enjoy every day. (Good and bad :p) and then just be overwhelmed with love when she or he gets here so it helps alleviate disappointment if it's a girl. We'll see:) DH wants to know early.. I SO wish he would wait because I know he's going to be obvious in his face and behavior!

What's also hard is I will be guess in my head based on ultrasounds now that I know more about different theory's like ramzi's theory, the nub theory, the heart rate theory etc! So I won't be able to help myself! I'm almost tempted to just not see any ultrasounds either cuz I don't want to speculate! Idk.. Haha all so far away at this point so we will just have to see what happens when the time comes :)

[2xblue]

I would love to experience team green as we've never done that before but I'm afraid I can't do that this time. I was really disappointed when we found out with DS2 at 20 week scan but it wasn't that I didn't enjoy my pregnancy.

[2xblue]

Oops sent that accidentally before I was ready...

But team green would be lovely especially if it was my DG but I really don't want to be disappointed at birth. I think we will find out unless something happens and I'm ready being team green. But we'll see.

My AF started this Tuesday and it has been really light. Never had this light period. Yesterday only had some spotting and this morning
little bit more. Usually my period lasts to 5-6 days and is much heavier the first days. Either it's the LE diet or I had wisdom teeth pulled out last week and had antibiotics and ibuprofen for it but took the last doses on Tuesday.

[Nann3r]

How is everyone doing?? I've pretty much gotten my diet down to a science finally! The occasional sweets. But otherwise high animal fat high protein very nutritious and filling food! SO MANY BURGERS!!! :)

A little worried though- I start training a client tomorrow and we are training daily! So I'm going to be doing a lot of working out come tomorrow. Just have to make sure my calories stay high and harder to compensate for all the calories I'll be burning! Along with the supplements I think it'll be okay.

I was bad with my supplements the last two weeks. Forgot almost a whole week of them! Been crazy around here I forget so much.

In other news, DH has been especially family oriented lately! He originally only wanted two kids and didn't care about gender. But since talking about trying again and adopting some day, he wants 4-5 and wants boys!!! :D nice to not be the only one that wants a lot of kiddies! :) it's also a relief cuz it give more opportunities to maybe get our biological boy. Plans change tho so could be after 2 biological and one adopted we will call it quits! But still it's nice to have that support from DH.

[Ttc2015]

Hi guys! Glad you have mastered the diet Nan! I'm struggling with the snacking still, I just love eating all the time!!!!! Sounds like your DH is well on board which must really help.

2x I'm so scared of being disappointed at birth again, I would always reacher feel it when pregnant and have the time t get my head around it. In any case, I'm dreading the day I would find out, I so don't want to hear those words again.

I've started using the ovulation strips, been testing since day 13, now day 17 and still negative. Not sure what to make of it.

[has2gentlemen]

Ah ladies, September is finally almost here and now I'm getting nervous. I've still been working with atomic on and off to finalize my sway and my iud comes out on Tuesday. Eek! So soon!
I'm down to 116 lbs and a 20.3 bmi without doing any exercise and after only 6 weeks on the diet, so I'm having to up calories and it's making me nervous that I'll be in exactly the same shape I was when I had my boys.
Plus our attempt seems so soon now and I'm starting to get a bit of cold feet. My mom kept our oldest today for a sleepover and my youngest turned 18 months and has matured a lot over the summer, and I was sitting at dinner thinking "do I want to go back to having a newborn right now?" We're just getting out of the fog and I'm not so sure I'm ready to rush straight back in again. I used to be so sure that I wanted all our kids close together. I've only got about a month to decide though. How is everyone else faring?


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[Ttc2015]

I know how you feel! My boys are now 4 (twins) and 6 and things are getting so much easier, I have quite a bit of time to myself now and we can do a lot with them, going places isn't the hassle it used to be and as they are all close in age they are happy to be doing the same things. We are having fun! I'm terrified of the sleepless nights and baby stage again! But then I think, it's only temporary. It's all temporary. One very big fear I have is that I feel we have been so lucky so far with 3 really nice, healthy kids. Are we pushing our luck? Am I being greedy? What if I do something that ruins what we have? I think it's the idea of change again and upsetting the balance of the family, we will get used to it and as long as everything is ok health wise I'm sure we will survive!

I'm still trying to work out exactly when I ovulate in my cycle, and will be trying in my Oct cycle. I'm rubbish at the diet but going to get stricter as of Sept. I've lost 8lb so far on diet alone and am now 144lb (you must be tiny, don't think I've ever been 116lb!) but I'm tall so my BMI is 20.8. I think I'm needing to push myself a bit out of my comfort zone with exercise and food. It's only for a couple months!

[Nann3r]

I'm so jealous of all you ladies swaying pink!!! I would love to be losing weight! :( stupid HE diet has me maintaining 142... Pre-pregnancy I was 125 and solid muscle since I was prepping for a bodybuilding competition!! Now I'm 142 of mush!! I am training clients again though so that will help. Just trying to make sure I keep y nutrition high and on point even while burning lots of calories. Trying to avoid too much cardio

I'm pretty excited though to ttc! Im lucky enough to ovulate twice in October! Two chances to try in October yay! We are taking a vacation on a cruise to Mexico though first week in October. So maybe that will help as I'm sure I will pigging out :p we decided we wanted one last hooray before getting prego! And don't worry I'm not a drinker so if we conceive before, I won't be drinking anyways :p I'm a part of another board for oct/nov trying to conceive buddies and two of them tried early! Makes it hard to wait I'm so anxious :p

[psophia]

Nann3r I'm jealous of you swaying blue! Lol. I love weight training and eating lots of healthy food. I transformed my body from skinny flabby by doing that. Now I have to go back to how I was before! Oh well, I got fit before I can do it again ☺

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[has2gentlemen]

I'm jealous of the blue swayers too. I hate this diet. I am not a dieting or exercise person, and I've always struggled with body issues so losing weight like this is killing me. I was a competitive gymnast for 15 years and a dancer for 20 and purposefully losing muscle tone is HARD.


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[psophia]

Amen to that has2 gentlemen I'm feeling so flabby ugh

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[Quinn31]

It's so funny to read how everyone feels about their diet. I am naturally a LE girl all the way. I eat that kind of diet and I've been a marathon runner. I've gained 5 pounds of the HE diet in two months but I was still ten pounds heavier from my 14 month dd so I'm feeling mushy and gross too. I was hoping with all of the weightlifting the muscle would replace the fat but that doesn't seem to be happening.

I still don't think I'm eating 9 servings of vegetables/fruits a day but I'm getting there hopefully.

I'm just hoping to get pregnant fast. We've never had trouble conceiving and then with my last dd it took a year. We had all the testing done and everything was normal so I'm really hoping that doesn't happen again. [emoji120]


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[Nann3r]

It's so funny to read how everyone feels about their diet. I am naturally a LE girl all the way. I eat that kind of diet and I've been a marathon runner. I've gained 5 pounds of the HE diet in two months but I was still ten pounds heavier from my 14 month dd so I'm feeling mushy and gross too. I was hoping with all of the weightlifting the muscle would replace the fat but that doesn't seem to be happening.

I still don't think I'm eating 9 servings of vegetables/fruits a day but I'm getting there hopefully.

I'm just hoping to get pregnant fast. We've never had trouble conceiving and then with my last dd it took a year. We had all the testing done and everything was normal so I'm really hoping that doesn't happen again. [emoji120]


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I'm naturally an LE kind of person too! So eating HE is not easy for me! It took 6 months to conceive our DD so I'm interested to see how many attempts the next one takes since my lifestyle is a 360 degree flip!

[Quinn31]

I did a version of HE when we were trying for last dd but I gave up when it started taking so long and reverted back to my old LE tendencies. My first two pregnancies took 2-3 cycles so I'm really hoping that's what will happen again. We just had our first month and got bfn so really hoping for the next couple months. Although when I tried HE the first time, I feel like I ate more processed and less healthy foods.


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[Ttc2015]

Can I ask again about ovulation predictor kits. It's the first time I've ever tracked ovulation, I must have been so lucky conceiving my boys! I bought th echo strips on line but I'm wondering if they are working. Have been testing since day 12 or 13 and been negative every day, I'm now day 23. Either I ovulated super early, will ovulate late or haven't ovulated, or maybe the strips are duff? Does anyone use the digital ones? I have one more practice month so need a rough indication of when I Ov! Thanks

[Ttc2015]

Oh and hate the LE diet too. Do not want to have to keep it up for more than a few months. What meals are people making?!

[3'sacharm]

Hello!! I'm hoping that I will be able to join you on a pink swaying journey at the end of this year - I still need to persuade hubby but I'm starting the LE diet, the modified version for PCOS (I don't have PCOS that I'm aware of but atomic recommended it with my exercise levels/type). The exercise side of things shouldn't be an issue but the diet will be interesting for me as I love my food and have a very sweet tooth �� From reading up on the stats, I am a typical boy breeder (I've had 3) with my diet, personality etc so it doesn't bode well for me to manage a pink bundle lol!x

[Ttc2015]

Welcome! I also have 3 boys. hope you can talk DH round!

[Nann3r]

Ttc2015 I use both the LH strips and the clearblue digital! So first I pay close attention to my CM as it starts dry and slowly and daily become more copious and thin and stretchy. Once it becomes like egg whites, I will start to test with the cheap LH strips every time I use the restroom until I get a positive reading. I then use the clearblue to confirm it! I use the cheapies first since they're a dime a dozen and I won't use the clearblue till I'm 90% sure I'm ovulating since they are expensive. I will then test 24+ later to confirm the LH surge has passed and I get a negative.

I've just now started tracking my BBT to hopefully now pinpoint tho moment of ovulation.

As far as your strips not reading, are you testing from urine in a cup or from the urine ******??? Mine reads best from a cup. Also- I got mine from Amazon. It was a pack of around 50 I think for maybe $5! They work wonderful for me! I'll post a picture of mine!

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[Ttc2015]

Thanks Nann! Yes I bought the strips from Amazon too, mine look a different brand though. I use a cup, follow instructions as on packet but have had negatives. Just nervous as have one more month to work out roughly when ovulation will fall, going t invest in some digital ones too. Rubbish at tracking CM. just to confirm when you get the positive you are not actually ovulating then, it's roughly a couple days later??? I was always rubbish at biology.

[Nann3r]

Yes! So the lh surge happens prior to ACTUALLY ovulating. So LH is released in your urine approx 12-24 prior to the egg actually being released! But some women vary that's why there's a whole 12 hour gap between 12-24 hours! Which is where tracking basal body temp comes in. You could try starting with tracking your basal temp first to get an idea where your temp spikes. The temp spike indicates the release has happened vary recently since first +opk!

[has2gentlemen]

Should I call it an omen? I was cleaning out my nightstand today and found an envelope full of opks (30-40) that I thought I mailed to a friend of mine after I got pregnant with DS2 and assumed they must be expired now.. They don't expire until October 25 of this year! I can start testing for my surge as soon as I get my iud out tomorrow instead of waiting until payday to buy opks. Maybe I'll catch the first egg ;)


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[Nann3r]

That's so great has2gentlemen! Haha how ironic:)

[Nann3r]

Oh and welcome 3sacharm!! :)

[Mum23boys1982]

Hey ladies

My first attempt will be next cycle! (Sept). I Will be starting clomid on cd3 and am doing a PCOS girl diet. To be honest I'm really just hoping for a sticky bean of any gender because we've been ttc for nearly two years and haven't had a single bfp!!

Just a quick question..I've been stocking up on opks and I *think* I've got the gist of it but when is the best time to test? On the instructions it says between 10am and 8pm but what have you guys found to be the best? Thanks :-) x

[Nann3r]

I've read morning is best! Between like 8am and 11am! The first pee of the day before breakfast! Just cuz it's not as diluted with food and water or drinks from the day, so it the most potent so to speak? This is when I test. But I also test all throughout the day when I get ewcm. I'll test every time I pee till I eventually get a positive. That way I really pinpoint that surge the moment it happens!

[has2gentlemen]

Most women hit the surge in the evening, so it's recommended you test twice a day- once around 11am (2nd pee) and once around 8pm (a few hours after dinner but not too close to bed). I've heard if you only use fmu you can actually miss your surge if it happens in the evening and is gone by the next morning. Fmu is the best for hpt.


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[Mum23boys1982]

Thanks guys! Very helpful!!

Well I have been testing this cycle as a practice run and so far no +
Started CD 11 as that what the instructions said! They are getting darker but no way +. Today is CD 14 so I will wait and test between the times you have advised. My cycles have been perfect 28 days for last 3 months so was expecting to O today or tomorrow!

I have bad cramps so fx AND for the FIRST TIME in years actual PROPER egg white CM! I was soo shocked to see it on the toilet paper! Just tested - 11.15am and seems lighter! Meh...

Oh what a learning curve this is!! Hopefully I will know what to expect next cycle during my 1st attempt so I don't get too stressed! X

[Mum23boys1982]

Ttc2015 I use both the LH strips and the clearblue digital! So first I pay close attention to my CM as it starts dry and slowly and daily become more copious and thin and stretchy. Once it becomes like egg whites, I will start to test with the cheap LH strips every time I use the restroom until I get a positive reading. I then use the clearblue to confirm it! I use the cheapies first since they're a dime a dozen and I won't use the clearblue till I'm 90% sure I'm ovulating since they are expensive. I will then test 24+ later to confirm the LH surge has passed and I get a negative.

I've just now started tracking my BBT to hopefully now pinpoint tho moment of ovulation.

As far as your strips not reading, are you testing from urine in a cup or from the urine ******??? Mine reads best from a cup. Also- I got mine from Amazon. It was a pack of around 50 I think for maybe $5! They work wonderful for me! I'll post a picture of mine!

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Thanks for posting this pic! Now I know what I am looking for!! X

[hopper]

Hi ladies, I haven't been online in the past couple of weeks. We are currently on vacation and having a great time. LE was on pause for the first week but getting back into my groove now skipping breakfast, fasting and no snacking. I am being as chill as I can about it cause I was the complete opposite with my boys conceptions. We have decide me to 100% go for it this month so I am CD8 right now (CD9 in my regular time zone if I want to get technical lol) and were going to do e4d starting either tomorrow or Friday. I am due to O possibly around Sept 14-16 depending on my cycle, long flights always seem to throw my O off track and my cycle is a little irregular as it stands so we shall have to adjust hope e4d and no stress works lol. Staying away from OPKs as I get waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too obsessive and have promised DH I will cut it with my "military style ttc" lol. No wonder I have two boys lol.
Ladies, I haven't been doing my cardio for a couple of weeks but wanted to get back into it when we get home. I haven't been couch potato on holiday as we are walking miles every day in 90 degree+ heat so working up a serious sweat. Do you guys think it would be ok to just resume cardio when we get home on the 8th even if I am due to O later that week or early the following week? I feel like the cheats on LE while on vacation will hurt my sway so want to kinda balance it out. Plus I am wondering if I have gained a lb or two while away, though perhaps I only feel that way cause I just finished AF. I was 122 leaving home which was my lowest adult weight with a BMI of 19.5. I have always been 22.7. I don't feel my sway is very strong other than the changes made to my diet!

[Boyzmommy]

I m going to try sept cycle too. I hope u get ur girl

[2xblue]

Has2, hopefully you can catch the first egg! :)

Mum23boys, good luck! I've been trying to get my posOPK this cycle but haven't had one even though I'm pretty sure I ovulated. But there were few days I couldn't do the test so maybe I just missed it. Next cycle is my first attempt so hopefully I will get my positive OPK then. Trying not to stress. We will be doing one attempt in fertile window.

Hopper, nice to hear you're having a good time on vacation! You are really close to your first attempt! Very exciting. I don't know what you should so with the exercise, hopefully other ladies can help. Great weight loss, congrats! It's true that e4d is less stressful.

I will have my first attempt in three weeks, unless my cycle is longer. I think I ovulated this cycle few days later than normally. I have lost almost 8kg during these 9,5 weeks on LE. My BMI is 21,1 now. Really happy with my weight. I've been pretty good with the diet, only few cheats. I'm kinda used to the LE but I still miss my food I used to eat lol. I really hope I will get pregnant in first or second try. It would be hard to continue the diet and exercise after few months on it.

My childhood friend just had their 3rd boy. I don't know if they were hoping for a girl. Also my cousin and his wife had their third boy in summer. When people have their 3rd boy it actually takes the pressure off from me. I feel like if I'm going to have a third boy then I'm not the only one. If everyone was having a girl after 2 boys I would be very stressed I think.

Good luck to everyone who are having the first attempt this month!

[hopper]

Thanks ladies! Yeah 2x I tracked O for my two boys, did opks and stressed waiting for a pos opk making me O even later than normal! And I O late anyway lol. Trying to be more relaxed and less Martha ;) I am the definition of a Martha lol. I think e4d was getting good results when I was last on here, we DTD eod or every day when trying for boys! And with changes to my diet (which I only now realise are absolutely huge - when I think of the calories I used to consume daily I am in shock at how much I have cut myself down so hoping it all helps!)

Best of luck September ladies!! 2x it sounds like you have done amazing on the diet, well done!!! 8kg is absolutely brilliant! I was 130 ish when starting in May after going from 142 after having my DS2 in Feb 2012. I was borderline between 121 and 122 before the vacation so around 8lbs in 4 months. The last few were very hard to shift! I used to always be 22.7 and am now 19.5 so I suppose the few cheats on holidays might help me stick at this weight instead of risking O by losing more.

2x I get what you mean bout friends having their 3rd same gender. I was hit really negatively this summer by two close friends getting their opposite after two sames. Both never displayed any GD and were very quick to claim they didn't have any and were happy with their 2 boys and 2 girls respectively. Fast forward to them having their son after two girls and daughter after two boys and they have been so vocal about how they finally got their longed for child. I am happy for them but it kinda feels like if I have another son they will pity me or something cause I am missing out on the experience they are so loving - and that I so badly want! I dunno if that even makes sense lol. Its funny how GD works isn't it, the silliest things can trigger it! I honestly can't imagine life without this horrible feeling but I would love love love to experience it!

[jennypenny]

Hiya,

Not been on this thread for ages, it's great to hear how well everyone is doing. I sometimes feel I am now so used to the diet that I am worried I am not doing it strongly enough! I stick to the limits using fitness pal app and don't eat any meat, but feel that I am eating some foods that other people avoid eating e.g chick peas!

Do you think that as long as you are with in the daily allowance of calories and fat etc, this is ok?

Also, as previously mentioned, my sister in law was finding out her baby gender (she has one boy) she is having another boy! I was positive it would be a girl, she was doing a lot of swaying accidentally from what I could see!

But another boy it is her for her. She insists she is delighted but, I can see through it (turns out she was told girl at 12week scan and had girl name picked )

I am not ttc until November, so good luck to everyone in their September attempts!! :)

[Boyzmommy]

Thanks ladies! Yeah 2x I tracked O for my two boys, did opks and stressed waiting for a pos opk making me O even later than normal! And I O late anyway lol. Trying to be more relaxed and less Martha ;) I am the definition of a Martha lol. I think e4d was getting good results when I was last on here, we DTD eod or every day when trying for boys! And with changes to my diet (which I only now realise are absolutely huge - when I think of the calories I used to consume daily I am in shock at how much I have cut myself down so hoping it all helps!)

Best of luck September ladies!! 2x it sounds like you have done amazing on the diet, well done!!! 8kg is absolutely brilliant! I was 130 ish when starting in May after going from 142 after having my DS2 in Feb 2012. I was borderline between 121 and 122 before the vacation so around 8lbs in 4 months. The last few were very hard to shift! I used to always be 22.7 and am now 19.5 so I suppose the few cheats on holidays might help me stick at this weight instead of risking O by losing more.

2x I get what you mean bout friends having their 3rd same gender. I was hit really negatively this summer by two close friends getting their opposite after two sames. Both never displayed any GD and were very quick to claim they didn't have any and were happy with their 2 boys and 2 girls respectively. Fast forward to them having their son after two girls and daughter after two boys and they have been so vocal about how they finally got their longed for child. I am happy for them but it kinda feels like if I have another son they will pity me or something cause I am missing out on the experience they are so loving - and that I so badly want! I dunno if that even makes sense lol. Its funny how GD works isn't it, the silliest things can trigger it! I honestly can't imagine life without this horrible feeling but I would love love love to experience it!

I know what upu feel hopper. My sis in law got a boy after a girl and she's always telling everyone how great it was to havd both genders. I am scared to try third time to face the disappointment.
With my second son i didnt have a strong GD but this time around i want a girl so bad. I m going to bd in three weeks and every night i think of dropping the idea and be happy with two coz i m scared
I m confused too. I mc in march and it was a boy too. We dtd only once after 10 days abstaince. I m not sure what should i do.
I m dieting but i m underweight and couldnt loose more. 110 lbs is my weight
But i dont understand le diet as well completely
I m so overwhelmed 😖

[has2gentlemen]

Hiya,

Not been on this thread for ages, it's great to hear how well everyone is doing. I sometimes feel I am now so used to the diet that I am worried I am not doing it strongly enough! I stick to the limits using fitness pal app and don't eat any meat, but feel that I am eating some foods that other people avoid eating e.g chick peas!

Do you think that as long as you are with in the daily allowance of calories and fat etc, this is ok?

Also, as previously mentioned, my sister in law was finding out her baby gender (she has one boy) she is having another boy! I was positive it would be a girl, she was doing a lot of swaying accidentally from what I could see!

But another boy it is her for her. She insists she is delighted but, I can see through it (turns out she was told girl at 12week scan and had girl name picked )

I am not ttc until November, so good luck to everyone in their September attempts!! :)

Atomic told me that it's the limits that matter, not the foods. For example, I eat meat every day but stay within the limits. Other girls are vegetarian. There are NO forbidden foods on LE. Some foods are harder to keep in the limits, so most people avoid them, but that doesn't mean you can't have them if you can make them work!


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[3'sacharm]

Girls can you please tell me if this sounds ok to you? I'm just starting out on my LE diet but doing the PCOS one to try and minimise testosterone ready for a possible sway attempt from December...

So today I have:

- had a white coffee with half a sweetener; skipped breakfast (waited 16 hours from last meal till lunch)
- lunch: whole grain rice with black quinoa and a nectarine
- dinner: 4 sesame rye crackers with a lick of butter, 100g light mozzarella, cherry tomatoes, red pepper, cucumber, red grapes, kiwi, blueberries and some honey Greek yogurt.

This totals around 1200 kcals and I'm off to the gym tonight too so will probably have a little something after that, maybe a protein shake if my limits allow?!

What are your thoughts?? Does this sound right or am I way off??

Thank you!!x

[Mum23boys1982]

Mum23boys, good luck! I've been trying to get my posOPK this cycle but haven't had one even though I'm pretty sure I ovulated. But there were few days I couldn't do the test so maybe I just missed it. Next cycle is my first attempt so hopefully I will get my positive OPK then. Trying not to stress. We will be doing one attempt in fertile window

I will have my first attempt in three weeks, unless my cycle is longer. I think I ovulated this cycle few days later than normally. I have lost almost 8kg during these 9,5 weeks on LE. My BMI is 21,1 now. Really happy with my weight. I've been pretty good with the diet, only few cheats. I'm kinda used to the LE but I still miss my food I used to eat lol. I really hope I will get pregnant in first or second try. It would be hard to continue the diet and exercise after few months on it.

My childhood friend just had their 3rd boy. I don't know if they were hoping for a girl. Also my cousin and his wife had their third boy in summer. When people have their 3rd boy it actually takes the pressure off from me. I feel like if I'm going to have a third boy then I'm not the only one. If everyone was having a girl after 2 boys I would be very stressed I think.

Good luck to everyone who are having the first attempt this month!

Thanks for that! I've realised now that it's not an exact science now and not reliable for some! Especially since I'm going to be taking clomid which apparently can mess with them anyway. I will still keep track but going for E4D so hopefully that covers all the bases x

I *should* be doing my first attempt in 3 weeks too! Depends on AF.

Nobody I know has had 3 boys in a row...but has had girls. And if I concieve boy 4 then I will be an anomaly within my group as no one I know has had that many kids of the same sex. I'm actually nervous about that.. The pressure is on lol

Good luck!! X

[Mum23boys1982]

Girls can you please tell me if this sounds ok to you? I'm just starting out on my LE diet but doing the PCOS one to try and minimise testosterone ready for a possible sway attempt from December...

So today I have:

- had a white coffee with half a sweetener; skipped breakfast (waited 16 hours from last meal till lunch)
- lunch: whole grain rice with black quinoa and a nectarine
- dinner: 4 sesame rye crackers with a lick of butter, 100g light mozzarella, cherry tomatoes, red pepper, cucumber, red grapes, kiwi, blueberries and some honey Greek yogurt.

This totals around 1200 kcals and I'm off to the gym tonight too so will probably have a little something after that, maybe a protein shake if my limits allow?!

What are your thoughts?? Does this sound right or am I way off??

Thank you!!x

Hiya I'm not sure and hopefully someone whose on LE can chime in (I'm on PCOS but eat more cals and have lost weight) but I don't think that's enough calories? I think it's around 1500 unless you have loads of weight to spare and that you're supposed to eat back the exercise calories? As far as I can gather, it's not a starvation diet per se but the actual diet content that sways...I could be wrong tho :worry: x

[Wantmyprincess]

I just joined, I totally in the same boat! I have a 2 years old son and I am 36 already so I can probably only conceive one more! I am praying for a girl, and I started LE diet for about 2 months now! It's so hard! I have clomid but too scared to take it! I am taking calcium, mag, low sodium and pottasium! I drink coffee and lots of crystal lite, we dropped the cut off dates since we couldn't conceive! We are going to do one attempt only and just use vinegar duche! I am so nervous! Are you doing the LE diet strictly? Sooooo hard!

[Ttc2015]

3sacharm that sounds on the low side of calories to me? Well it would be too low for me, but as far as I understand the diet it's LE for you, whatever that's is, so if you are lowering everything in comparison to what you normally eat that's a good thing. It's not so much about what you are eating as keeping it to 2-3 meals so keeping your blood sugar low by not snacking and leaving big gaps between meals and only eating when you feel hungry (which is all the time for me!!!) The main things to lower seem to be protein and fat, which is why a vegetarian diet is suggested but you can still eat meat if it's within the daily limits. I'm not very good at working out the content of my meals so just trying to stick to the principles and eat smaller portions. I've almost cut out meat completely and try to steer clear of nutrient rich foods, like spinach, eggs and avocados etc. I might be wrong but I'm looking at the first couple of months on the diet as a way to lose weight, get rid of some fat, and then the month leading up to BD and just after I will be stricter and really try and keep blood sugars as low as possible.

Hi wantmyprincess, welcome! Atomic doesn't really recommend magnesium or calcium, what does everyone else think? I'm on peppermint tea and vitex, and folic acid. DH is on root licorice and cranberry, plus he has upped his soya intake. I read that using a gel like rePHresh is better than a douche as it lasts for a few days and keeps you PH level at 4.5 all this time, whereas a douche can be washed out by CM and semen. What is everyone else thinking about this?

I now have lavender everywhere in my house, candles, hanwash, bath oils, body lotion, shower gel, washing powder etc etc!! I also just bought a lovely Rose quartz necklace, the lady in the shop said its a stone with good energy and is apparently good for your sex life!!!! Probably nothing in all this but it can do not harm! Is anyone else doing anything like this?

[Ttc2015]

So I'm just back from a night out where one friend (who has all girls) said to another, who is expecting a baby (and also has all girls), that she would love to look after the baby when its born, unless it's a boy because she isn't really 'drawn' to baby boys, but baby girls she just wants to 'eat up'. And she knows that I'm planning to try for another baby. When people make comments like this it really upsets me because 1. I feel it totally undervalues my beautiful boys who I wouldn't swap for the world and who were the most gorgeous babies, just as gorgeous as any baby girl, and 2. Reinforces my belief that every woman actually wants a daughter deep down, and if I have another boy everyone will be feeling sorry for me. They will whisper "that's the poor woman who has 4 boys, can you imagine?!". And then another friend who has a boy and a girl said 'how do you cope with 3 boys?!' And went on to say how awful her boy was and how grateful she was to have a daughter who was so lovely and basically made everything ok. 'I'm so glad I have her, she is so gentle and lovely etc etc'. I just want to curl up and cry!!!!!!!!! My boys are loud and boisterous but they are also gentle and kind and so so loving, I wouldn't wish them away, my worst nightmare is anything happening to them and I have a huge guilt about how badly I want a daughter, but it's hard not to feel this way when it seems that everyone around you is reinforcing these feelings!!!!

[Junie]

Sorry I know I don't belong in this thread but I have to say that your friends sound like idiots to me,Ttc2015. Seriously- not drawn to boy babies?! I can honestly say that I wanted a boy first, didn't care at all the 2nd go around, and this time around would only prefer a girl so I can experience both but would also love another boy.
You need to start spending time with women who love both boys and girls! I find that attitude very unhealthy and am glad I have never met someone like that in real life. I just want you to know that there are lots and lots of people who don't feel that way! If you do end up having a 4th boy you will be blessed :) Although of course I hope everyone gets their dream gender.

[Ttc2015]

Thanks Junie, I was v upset last night but I'm so over sensitive about these things. I don't think people even realise what they are saying, I know they don't mean to upset. I've just always wanted a daughter so badly and I take any comments that seem to reinforce negative stereotypes of boys too much to heart. I wish I didn't care so much what other people think!!!! I would be so blessed with another boy. I was so proud the first day I went out with all 3 of mine, twins were a few days old and eldest was nearly 2, and all I got was negative comments. Just need t grow a thicker skin!

[mandyp85]

Ttc2015, I also don't belong in the thread but I completely agree with junie. How insensitive of your friend to say such a thing, little boys are just divine and anyone who feels like your friend does it missing out, maybe in actual fact she is saying things like that to cover up her own gd about having all girls? Either way its people like that who make gd worse for people and maybe like junie said it may be a good idea to take a step back from them for now and surround yourself with people who don't make you feel bad about having 3 boys. Having 3 of a kind is a special thing, the bond between the ones I've come across has always been amazing. Good luck to you hun.

[jennypenny]

So I'm just back from a night out where one friend (who has all girls) said to another, who is expecting a baby (and also has all girls), that she would love to look after the baby when its born, unless it's a boy because she isn't really 'drawn' to baby boys, but baby girls she just wants to 'eat up'. And she knows that I'm planning to try for another baby. When people make comments like this it really upsets me because 1. I feel it totally undervalues my beautiful boys who I wouldn't swap for the world and who were the most gorgeous babies, just as gorgeous as any baby girl, and 2. Reinforces my belief that every woman actually wants a daughter deep down, and if I have another boy everyone will be feeling sorry for me. They will whisper "that's the poor woman who has 4 boys, can you imagine?!". And then another friend who has a boy and a girl said 'how do you cope with 3 boys?!' And went on to say how awful her boy was and how grateful she was to have a daughter who was so lovely and basically made everything ok. 'I'm so glad I have her, she is so gentle and lovely etc etc'. I just want to curl up and cry!!!!!!!!! My boys are loud and boisterous but they are also gentle and kind and so so loving, I wouldn't wish them away, my worst nightmare is anything happening to them and I have a huge guilt about how badly I want a daughter, but it's hard not to feel this way when it seems that everyone around you is reinforcing these feelings!!!!

Wow!!! My blood is boiling reading this!!!

How insensitive and cruel!!! I would have found it so hard to keep quiet listening to that nonsense!!

Some people just do not think what they are saying! I have recently distanced myself from a friend who came out with similar rubbish about how she was relieved to have just to one boy (followed by 2 girls)

I totally can relate about feeling guilty wanting a girl, but just need to remember it has nothing to do with how much I love and treasure my boys xxx

[atomic sagebrush]

Hiya I'm not sure and hopefully someone whose on LE can chime in (I'm on PCOS but eat more cals and have lost weight) but I don't think that's enough calories? I think it's around 1500 unless you have loads of weight to spare and that you're supposed to eat back the exercise calories? As far as I can gather, it's not a starvation diet per se but the actual diet content that sways...I could be wrong tho :worry: x

I VASTLY prefer that people stick to 1500-1800 cals. THere is a small minority who can drop to 1200-1500 and they are: People who have more than 30-50 lbs to lose, people who are petite and never eat more than 1500 cals a day and got boys doing that, and people who have plateaued with weight left to lose.

Some people even go up to 1800-2000. People who are tall, have a high metabolism, nursing moms, and those doing the full 60 6-7 exercise may want to at least start at 1800-2000.

On PCOS deit you should not be using low fat products - since you are getting less cals from carbs, you need more cals from fat or you will waste away to nothing. Full fat only on PCOS (plus skim dairy products are awful for PCOS for reasons we do not know). And you get more protein too 50-60 g instead of 40-50.

Be sure you are not counting ANYTHING in low carb veg like tomato, cucumber, pepper (they are free and unlimited) and count cals ONLY in fruit and higher carb veg so if you are including those in 1200 cals that's even worse because you are certainly not getting enough cals/protein/fat

[Ttc2015]

Thanks Mandy and Jenny. I was very shocked, she is a very nice lady and usually so complementary about my boys, was just so taken aback! Ah well, mustn't dwell on the silly things that people say. X

[2xblue]

Hopper, thank you! You have done great weight loss yourself too. I also think your few cheats on holiday were good to you, as you said you don't want to risk ovulation as your BMI is pretty low now.

Mom23boys, yes you should be more stress free if you are doing e4d! I think I ovulated almost week later than normally! Maybe it's the LE that delayed O? Exciting that we have our first attempts so close together! I'm sorry you don't know many 3 boy families. I can imagine the pressure is on. I really hope you will get your DD but if you don't I'm sure the 4th boy is very special :) I know many families with 3 boys, I think only 2 has two boys and then a girl. Sometimes I think it's almost impossible to have a girl after two boys but this swaying stuff makes me hopeful!

Welcome wantmyprincess!

Ttc, your friend's comment was absolutely horrible. What are they thinking when they say these things? I'm really sorry you had to listen to that and I totally understand why you were upset. Hugs! About lavender and rose quartz, first I wanted to buy lavender products but I couldn't find them in the stores so dropped those. I found my old rose quartz necklace and planned to use that but I have forgot it lol. So I'm not doing any of those. Only put the little girls dress under our bed :)

I'm having a girls night out on next Friday. We are going to a restaurant and have a few drinks. So I'm going to have a cheat night. So looking forward to it! I'm going to eat something LE friendly to stay in limits but going to drink alcohol during the night. First I was little concerned is it ok to have a cheat night so close to the first attempt but AS said it's fine so I'm not stressing over that :)

[Mum23boys1982]

Mom23boys, yes you should be more stress free if you are doing e4d! I think I ovulated almost week later than normally! Maybe it's the LE that delayed O? Exciting that we have our first attempts so close together! I'm sorry you don't know many 3 boy families. I can imagine the pressure is on. I really hope you will get your DD but if you don't I'm sure the 4th boy is very special :) I know many families with 3 boys, I think only 2 has two boys and then a girl. Sometimes I think it's almost impossible to have a girl after two boys but this swaying stuff makes me hopeful!

Hey x2blue! Yeah I say pressure but truth is I'm not worried to be honest what anything thinks anyway...a healthy child is what my end goal is..but saying that this is the last chance salon for a girl... So it is on my mind frequently. I'm hopeful but preparing my self to hear another boy!! X

[Mum23boys1982]

Ttc15 - I wouldn't worry what anybody else thinks. Those that care don't matter and those that matter don't care! People can be bitchy when they think they're better than you with something even friends unfortunately.

Hopper - good luck and I hope you enjoyed your break!

CD 19 for me today. Usually AF comes CD 28 so not long now BUT...this last ovulation has been the worst! Painful cramps and breasts, headaches, nausea and really really bad cravings...I've totally fallen off the diet the last two days! I had insatiable cravings for salt and just stuffed my face with crisps...I NEVER crave salty food, not like that. It was weird. But it's been a strange cycle. If anything it's normally sweet food. So now I'm doubting whether to put off for another month or just go ahead as planned. Meh. Maybe my body needed it. Lol.

Had a dream about boy toddlers last night too! Lol x

[Ttc2015]

I also had a huge craving for crisps this weekend!!! I seem to fall off the wagon a bit at weekends, there always seems to be a party or a meal out and I def go over my limits. I'm confused about alcohol - I thought alcohol was good for girls as long as it's within your limits for the day?

[Mum23boys1982]

I also had a huge craving for crisps this weekend!!! I seem to fall off the wagon a bit at weekends, there always seems to be a party or a meal out and I def go over my limits. I'm confused about alcohol - I thought alcohol was good for girls as long as it's within your limits for the day?

Must have been something in the air! Lol

Well I've added alcohol ...I just have a single shot vodka with diet lemonade or coke every evening. Sometimes I have two. I don't feel any effect from it except it makes me relax a bit...I guess..but it's probably a placebo. I'm sure it's thr longer term effects of alcohol that sway girl. A girl I know has a few girls and drinks at leat 4-5 bottles a week of wine

I don't think there's any fat, protein or carbs in vodka and it's about 60-70 cals per shot. So a good treat tbh x

[Ttc2015]

4-5 bottles a week?!!!! Yes I thought it helped dry CM? Probably also helps to lower your fertility a bit as it can't be great for you to drink every day. I'm having a glass of white wine or a gin and tonic most days, sometimes 2. I think vodka def have less cals than wine! So is it bad to have more than one or 2? Surely be ok if still within your limits?

[Mum23boys1982]

Yep. 4-5 bottles and regularly goes out on girls nights out and binge drinks too. Tbh I think she has a drink problem.

I'm not sure about it drying up cm, I thought it overall decreases fertility which in turn dries up cm? I'm not sure hopefully someone can chip in. I never drank at all for years and years when conceiving the boys so this little addition has been quite good for me.

Wine has more calories but also has additives and sometimes sugar. In some brands anyway. I'm not a vodka lover (I'd prefer wine) but it fits in with my personal limits so I think it's fine at the moment for me. A whole bottle has lasted me over 6 weeks and counting now. And it was just a cheap bottle for like £7. So a cheap sway tatic.

Short- term I don't think it will hurt, long-term I don't know. Hopefully I won't have to find out! Lol. A lot of people drink in the evenings, but it would be one of the first things I drop, if I had too x

[atomic sagebrush]

No one knows why alcohol sways, it's one of those things we simply don't know.

[atomic sagebrush]

we don't know what types are best if any. Have what you prefer.

[Ttc2015]

I quite like a glass of wine in the evening, but maybe only a couple days a week. So, is it ok to be drinking more than one or 2 every so often?

[Ttc2015]

I have asked Atomic and it is ok, alcohol is good for a girl sway. So it's not a cheat if you have a night out and have a few to drink. I guess it's more the calorie content in terms of trying to lose weight. How is everyone doing? It's getting close for some one you now! I've just had one of my shortest cycles ever at 30 days so that has taken me by surprise and brought everything forward a little. Got this one cycle to try and track ovulation.

[Nann3r]

Wow I've missed a lot lately! And I must say

Ttc2015 don't listen to people.. What they think and how they live their life has no bearing on yours or how you should feel. I struggle with that daily. /: I constantly have to listen to my mother in law say the same things. And I also constantly feel negatively towards my sister in law. She had a girl first. Then got pregnant again why I was pregnant with DD and of course they're having the boy I hope for some day. Not only did they get the first grand baby, but they also got the first boy too. And I constantly get jealous and angry and bitter over how unfair it is.. But I do EXACTLY what you do! I wouldn't trade my daughter for 5 boys!!! And I scare myself thinking if something every happened to her how horrible I would feel for ever wanting a boy as badly as I do.. :( chin up though! You have great support here cuz we all understand you completely! GD is so hard to grasp for those that have never experienced it.. So we can't expect them to.. But we will always be here for you! :) virtually :p

As far as my diet I'm still struggling.. I went to meet my OTHER new nephew (yes I have two now.. Salt in the wound) but it was so fun but I binged all weekend.. Which is okay for a boy sway.. But I gained 7 lbs!!!! NOT OKAY!!!! So I've been running every day this week.. I know it sways pink, I just cannot handle being this over weight:( and I've been watching my calorie intake. I know there's a sweet spot for swaying blue with calories and exercise.. But I'm so used to LE.. So this is so much harder than I thought it would be!! I constantly battle every day: focus on my weight and body? Or focus on swyaing boy??? What's more important???? I go back and forth daily I swear.. /: anyways, vacation coming soon though!! Cruise for a week end of this month then right into our ttc month!!! :) 5 weeks till we do THEE deed!! :p or deeds.. Haha:) hope you all are doing better than myself with your sways!!

[2xblue]

I had a horrible dream last night. I was pregnant and I got my NIPT blood test results and it said the baby was a girl and she had trisomie 13. The doctor said they weren't sure was the trisomie part accurate so they will have to do some more testing. On the other hand I was so happy it was a girl but on the other hand I was devastated that the baby wasn't healthy. When I woke up it felt so real :( Had to tell my DH about it. Maybe I had this dream because few days ago I read on this forum that one lady here had a miscarriage and the baby had trisomie. Our first baby that we lost had trisomie 21 so I guess I'm just super sensitive about these things. Even though I'm praying for a girl all that matters is that baby would be healthy.

[Ttc2015]

Oh 2x I hate those dreams that feel so real. I keep dreaming that we jump the gun and dtd before our sway is ready!!! You are right, what matters most is having a healthy baby.

Thanks Nann. It is so hard at times, but it means a lot to find people who feel the same and are so supportive.

I think our first attempt will be in about 5 weeks. I am a bit worried I'm not losing enough weight.

[sweetthing]

I will be trying the end of September. I will have been on the LE diet for about 10 weeks by then, have always skipped breakfast and do 60 minutes of cardio about 4-5 times a week. I've gone vegetarian most of the time, occasionally having some meat. I've also tried to to stay under the calorie, fat and protein requirements, but had some days where I go over on one or both. I'm 5'6" and weighed 147 when I started the LE diet. I'm down to about 134, but I conceived my boys at 128 and 135, so I'm still trying to lose a little more weight. I've been on fiber, folic acid, coQ10 and drinking lots of Crystal Light for the aspartame for my supplements. My husband has been taking Oil Leaf extract and licorice root. There are a few other things we will do when its time, like take an antihistamine and try a few of the gels. I feel pretty good about my sway. I'm a little nervous, but excited. I've always wanted four kids, and I'm hoping one of them can be a girl.
Anyone else going to be swaying soon?