Coffee!

[Laurenk1424]

My customized plan isn't ready yet and in trying to start the diet without feeling like I'm "dieting." I have food addiction issues, and when I think I'm restricted, I go crazy and wanna eat everything. It's horrible. This will be so hard for me. Anyway, I know you should try to not eat until lunch, which is fine but I just realized I drink my coffee with a tiny bit of milk and sugar every morning. Will that mess everything up with the whole low blood sugar thing?
Thanks guys!

[djmommy]

I drink coffee every morning when I get up and there is absolutley no way I would be able to hold off eating without it. Atomic says it is totally fine. But I am sure others will chime in.

[maidentomother]

Black is ideal. Can you use a non caloric sweetener like aspartame (Equal) or Splenda? And if you must use milk, use as little as possible and ideally skim.

[kitkat18]

Pretty sure atomic did that and still got her DD! I think there is no magic bullet so if it makes LE more bearable do it! I had a flat white (large milky coffee) about 10.30am every day a lot of people would see this as a cheat but it was the only way I survived 8mths on LE diet Xxx

[Laurenk1424]

Thanks kitKat. I still haven't committed to the diet and I printed it a few days ago. It is so so so different from what I've trained myself to eat (losing weight.) I've been so high protein, low sugar, low carb that this just seems gross. Can anyone name a few easy grab things that you used as meals?
This was my day
Coffee
White bread tomato & ham sandwich
Two corn tortillas w fajita chicken, grilled peppers and hot sauce w white rice.
Is that horrible??


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[kitkat18]

Its hard at first join MFP and start tracking your fat, protein, cals etc I did this for about 2months then stopped as I knew what I was doing. I tried to stick to about 1,400 cals per day but I did lose weight fast so if you are already slim I would up that to 1,800 cals at the start. I ate the same thing for lunch every day low fat cream cheese with bagel, fat free yogurt and 2 pieces vege sushi no snacks then I had whatever DH cooked except went mainly vege with a little chicken, fish or eggs once per week. There is a thread on here- tracking what everyone is eating read through this for ideas! Best of luck!! I'm 38 weeks pregnant with DD its a dream come true thanks to this site and atomic Xx

[Laurenk1424]

I'm going to buy your exact lunch and eat it daily. Something I can repeat makes it easier for me to be accountable I think. Can I get flavored cream cheese?


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[kitkat18]

I'm going to buy your exact lunch and eat it daily. Something I can repeat makes it easier for me to be accountable I think. Can I get flavored cream cheese?


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Bless!! Just eat what works for you!! Flavoured would be fine just make sure its low fat! I also sometimes had a bit of low fat soup instead of sushi or swapped sushi for small salad. But I totally am one of those people that eats the same thing EVERY day and does not get bored , best of luck XX

[Laurenk1424]

Thank you and CONGRATS on ur baby girl. So exciting!


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[maidentomother]

If you take out the ham & chicken you'd be good. It's best to eat vegetarian as much as possible when swaying pink.

[bluebonnet22]

I would have a cup of coffee daily with a couple tbsp of coffeemate first thing in the morning. Couldn't have survived without it! I did run 3-6 miles daily immediately after finishing my coffee though.

[Laurenk1424]

I don't run immediately after coffee but every afternoon I run 3-4 miles


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[bluebonnet22]

I do think the intense cardio is a great sway factor. I normally hate to run but I loved it by the end! I have missed it so much during pregnancy.

[Laurenk1424]

I have been running and using weights for months to lose weight... I hope that by dropping the weight training and continuing the running that it's enough of a difference to still be considered enough cardio


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[atomic sagebrush]

A BIG part of why the LE Diet seems to work for people is that you have the leeway to not feel terribly deprived, since there are no forbidden foods you can have what you want when you want it. Cheating is not only allowed, it's ENCOURAGED and we operate under hte 80-20 rule...you get 80% of the results with 20% of the effort and to get that remaining 20% of results, you have to put out 80% of the effort, and with swaying pink trying to put out 80% of the effort on diet drives ya so nutty you end up swaying blue anyway. Perfection is not required here, good enough is good enough.

While technically, the coffee with milk and sugar is a cheat, it doesn't amount to much (scientific explanation - becuase your blood sugar goes up naturally in the morning anyway the coffee with milk and sugar just kinda gets absorbed into that anyway and may even help lower your blood sugar later on in the day) and it was a cheat that I had every day and still got my DD.

WHat you may want to try is also putting in a little cinnamon (just a pinch, it really takes very little) in the coffee, will help keep blood sugar lower. :)

You're doing fine! Keep it up

[Laurenk1424]

Thanks Atomic! I add cinnamon to my grinds anyway! Great to know! I'm definitely going to way way reduce my protein and hope that works... I think fajita seasoned veggies in corn tortillas will be a regular.

I'm one of those southerners who eats aLOT of salt... When I had blood work done they said they couldn't tell at all... I guess I metabolize it quickly? Do I have to completely cut salt or do you think lowering it will be okay?


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[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks kitKat. I still haven't committed to the diet and I printed it a few days ago. It is so so so different from what I've trained myself to eat (losing weight.) I've been so high protein, low sugar, low carb that this just seems gross. Can anyone name a few easy grab things that you used as meals?
This was my day
Coffee
White bread tomato & ham sandwich
Two corn tortillas w fajita chicken, grilled peppers and hot sauce w white rice.
Is that horrible??


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Many of us have found that it's strangely easy to stick to a higher carb diet when we've had poor results in the past losing weight on high protein diets (like you mention, food restrictions not working for you) It may be that some women are just better off eating more carbs than a high protein diet and we feel terribly deprived without them. So you may find this to be a whole new experience and while it feels counterintuitie, the majority of us have lost weight easily on LE (so much so that we ended up using it as a diet after we had our babies to take off the lbs)

[atomic sagebrush]

Lauren I think you ought to add in more veg, I think it will feel healthier to you and remember, low carb veg are FREE, you can have as much as you want and do not even need to count them!

[Laurenk1424]

I agree. I'm going to add in more veggies for sure. Thanks for such quick responses. I'm so anxious to get my plan back but I'm so glad I found you guys when I did. I'm right at the 90 days out mark so I feel like I have the perfect amount of sway time


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[atomic sagebrush]

I'm going to buy your exact lunch and eat it daily. Something I can repeat makes it easier for me to be accountable I think. Can I get flavored cream cheese?


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Yes you can and I do want to issue a "warning" about the fat-free cream cheese - I see many people who try very hard to cut out fat COMPLETELY but that is NOT LE Diet. Cream cheese can be a good way to get some fat if you're not getting it elsewhere. Fat free cream cheese is certainly fine to eat, but I jsut want to be sure you're getting fat from someplace. :)

[Laurenk1424]

I bought reduced fat instead. That way I get some fat... I also use butter in some veggies when I sautée


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

A BIG part of why the LE Diet seems to work for people is that you have the leeway to not feel terribly deprived, since there are no forbidden foods you can have what you want when you want it. Cheating is not only allowed, it's ENCOURAGED and we operate under hte 80-20 rule...you get 80% of the results with 20% of the effort and to get that remaining 20% of results, you have to put out 80% of the effort, and with swaying pink trying to put out 80% of the effort on diet drives ya so nutty you end up swaying blue anyway. Perfection is not required here, good enough is good enough.

While technically, the coffee with milk and sugar is a cheat, it doesn't amount to much (scientific explanation - becuase your blood sugar goes up naturally in the morning anyway the coffee with milk and sugar just kinda gets absorbed into that anyway and may even help lower your blood sugar later on in the day) and it was a cheat that I had every day and still got my DD.

WHat you may want to try is also putting in a little cinnamon (just a pinch, it really takes very little) in the coffee, will help keep blood sugar lower. :)

You're doing fine! Keep it up

That's GENIUS!!! I don't do sugar but even with low fat coffee mate I HEAP it in lol I can't help it.... But the cinnamon is genius!


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

I agree. I'm going to add in more veggies for sure. Thanks for such quick responses. I'm so anxious to get my plan back but I'm so glad I found you guys when I did. I'm right at the 90 days out mark so I feel like I have the perfect amount of sway time


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When is your TTC time (approx)?


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[Laurenk1424]

Last week of June


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Same


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[Laurenk1424]

Yay! Sway buddies! Let's keep eachother in check!


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[smarston3]

A BIG part of why the LE Diet seems to work for people is that you have the leeway to not feel terribly deprived, since there are no forbidden foods you can have what you want when you want it. Cheating is not only allowed, it's ENCOURAGED and we operate under hte 80-20 rule...you get 80% of the results with 20% of the effort and to get that remaining 20% of results, you have to put out 80% of the effort, and with swaying pink trying to put out 80% of the effort on diet drives ya so nutty you end up swaying blue anyway. Perfection is not required here, good enough is good enough.

While technically, the coffee with milk and sugar is a cheat, it doesn't amount to much (scientific explanation - becuase your blood sugar goes up naturally in the morning anyway the coffee with milk and sugar just kinda gets absorbed into that anyway and may even help lower your blood sugar later on in the day) and it was a cheat that I had every day and still got my DD.

WHat you may want to try is also putting in a little cinnamon (just a pinch, it really takes very little) in the coffee, will help keep blood sugar lower. :)

You're doing fine! Keep it up


Thanks atomic! Added cinnamon to my coffee today! Attempt is in two weeks so I doubt it will make a difference but still tasty!


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Yay! Sway buddies! Let's keep eachother in check!


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Well, atomic thinks I shouldn't wait bc of my age. I really wanted to give this sway my all and now I'm just not sure i what I want. I have 4 boys and I'll be 39 in June. Last baby. I wanted to give the diet 3 months and then make my attempt in June, and then July if I was unsuccessful. She seems to feel very strongly about it, but I'm waiting to hear what she says.


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[djmommy]

I would have to agree with Atomic here. I just turned 39 and we have been TTC for over a year, swaying for 6 months (yikes). I had an issue with tubes possibly being blocked but that is cleared now. My AMH is low and my FSH was high last cycle. I am not saying it is the same for you but I am honestly shocked how long this is taking me. DS 1 was a first cycle attempt and DS 2 took about 3 cycles. He is 2.5 so not THAT long ago but enough. Just do your sway the best you can. I understand how you feel and this is my last baby also. I would LOVE a daughter and that is why I am doing this but also in the end, I want another baby for our family.
Good luck to you!!

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

I would have to agree with Atomic here. I just turned 39 and we have been TTC for over a year, swaying for 6 months (yikes). I had an issue with tubes possibly being blocked but that is cleared now. My AMH is low and my FSH was high last cycle. I am not saying it is the same for you but I am honestly shocked how long this is taking me. DS 1 was a first cycle attempt and DS 2 took about 3 cycles. He is 2.5 so not THAT long ago but enough. Just do your sway the best you can. I understand how you feel and this is my last baby also. I would LOVE a daughter and that is why I am doing this but also in the end, I want another baby for our family.
Good luck to you!!

Ya I get it, it could be that it just doesn't happen. Ds4 is 1. He was conceived 1st attempt. Idk. I guess I just partially feel like what's 3 months, but then partially I DO Agree. She said 6 weeks tops. That would be splitting the difference... Idk if it's a good enough time for a proper sway though. I've been on and off this forum since we had ds4 , knowing we were going to do this but then AF took forever to come back (same as with ds3, he was 10 months, ds4 12 months when af came back) and so I've not been doing anything other than skipping breakfast. I was eating high fat, high protein and snacking. Guess I'm scared.


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[maidentomother]

Hitme do you only want a girl or is any baby better than no baby?

[djmommy]

Ultimately you have to decide what you think is best for you! I now it is hard.

[Laurenk1424]

Awww Hitme I see your issue. I agree that it's totally up to you. You'll have plenty of support either way. After my son, i breastfed almost 3 years, and it took AF about 2 years to come back. Crazy. So after my attempt in June, I'm guessing I won't be able to attempt again for years because of the same reason. Luckily I have time to spare, I'm on the edge of 28. Just do what you think is best for your family. 3 months doesn't seem like long if you usually only have to attempt once, but Atomix wouldn't give advice she didn't feel strongly about.



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[Laurenk1424]

Atomic**


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Hitme do you only want a girl or is any baby better than no baby?

Sigh. Another baby is better than none.... But this convo wouldn't be happening if ds4 was a little girl, kwim?


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[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Awww Hitme I see your issue. I agree that it's totally up to you. You'll have plenty of support either way. After my son, i breastfed almost 3 years, and it took AF about 2 years to come back. Crazy. So after my attempt in June, I'm guessing I won't be able to attempt again for years because of the same reason. Luckily I have time to spare, I'm on the edge of 28. Just do what you think is best for your family. 3 months doesn't seem like long if you usually only have to attempt once, but Atomix wouldn't give advice she didn't feel strongly about.



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I know she wouldn't - I've seen her give the same advice to others in other posts. 2 years hey? Holy smokes!!!! Well I've just looked at our calendars and we can do 8-10 but not six weeks bc Dh is away (most likely) when we'd be doing our attempt.


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[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks Atomic! I add cinnamon to my grinds anyway! Great to know! I'm definitely going to way way reduce my protein and hope that works... I think fajita seasoned veggies in corn tortillas will be a regular.

I'm one of those southerners who eats aLOT of salt... When I had blood work done they said they couldn't tell at all... I guess I metabolize it quickly? Do I have to completely cut salt or do you think lowering it will be okay?


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Sodium probably does nothing whatsoever for a sway and most of us have totally dropped that aspect of it and gotten girls that way. I got my 4th boy limiting sodium and my girl with both DH and I eating it semiprofessionally LOL. I'm working on an essay about it but the idea that it does anything for a sway at all is, as the Brits say, utter rubbish. It simply cannot work for the reason you yourself have already witnessed - your body does not "like" to have low or high sodium and so it either absorbs or excretes more to keep the level in your body exactly the same. We have had people do the "old school" sway diets taking tons of minerals and avoiding others for several weeks, had bloodwork done before and afterwards and found no change, in a couple cases their levels actually went UP after several weeks of limiting sodium.

NO ONE should ever ever ever completely cut salt for a sway. YOu can DIE from doing that. Your body needs sodium to live and the barest minimum is 700-1000 mg a day. most of us, even those limiting sodium are eating more than that (usually 1200-1500). It is next to impossible to lower sodium that low, it makes sticking to a sway diet exceedingly difficult and while I do keep it in the mix because it's possible and not harmful, it's not my preference that anyone really follow that aspect of the diet. :)

[Laurenk1424]

You just made my day Atomic! Haha yay Salt!
Got my plan last night and I'm going to buy my Vitex, SP & Folic Acid today. Any suggested brands or sources? I was planning on going to CVS.


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[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks atomic! Added cinnamon to my coffee today! Attempt is in two weeks so I doubt it will make a difference but still tasty!


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Cinnamon should work instantly so that is fine.

[atomic sagebrush]

Well, atomic thinks I shouldn't wait bc of my age. I really wanted to give this sway my all and now I'm just not sure i what I want. I have 4 boys and I'll be 39 in June. Last baby. I wanted to give the diet 3 months and then make my attempt in June, and then July if I was unsuccessful. She seems to feel very strongly about it, but I'm waiting to hear what she says.


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It's more than just your age, it's that it is your age coupled with the fact that you are literally not able to TTC for half the year due to your job responsibilities. Those will not go away, so we need to strike while we can. IT is, absolutely at your discretion but no pregnancy = zero chance of a daughter and at 39, your odds of conception do diminish over time. As always, it's totally your call to make, I just have seen quite a lot of women (mostly back on IG, which is why I advise the things I advise) expend precious months and years on sway tactics only to end up leaving the table with no baby and thousands of dollars spent to fertility clinics because they goofed around so long swaying that they were unable to get pregnant in the end. I think back to the days when they were 37-38-39 and doing tons of douching and O+12 (or even waiting X number of months on diet) and I just wish that someone had lit a bit of a fire under their butts to hurry up, KWIM???

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

It's more than just your age, it's that it is your age coupled with the fact that you are literally not able to TTC for half the year due to your job responsibilities. Those will not go away, so we need to strike while we can. IT is, absolutely at your discretion but no pregnancy = zero chance of a daughter and at 39, your odds of conception do diminish over time. As always, it's totally your call to make, I just have seen quite a lot of women (mostly back on IG, which is why I advise the things I advise) expend precious months and years on sway tactics only to end up leaving the table with no baby and thousands of dollars spent to fertility clinics because they goofed around so long swaying that they were unable to get pregnant in the end. I think back to the days when they were 37-38-39 and doing tons of douching and O+12 (or even waiting X number of months on diet) and I just wish that someone had lit a bit of a fire under their butts to hurry up, KWIM???

I do. I've seen a few people in here saying the same too.... I am fine tuning my sway plan too - I sent you a msg; I forgot to add fibre and I can't remember if I added cardio but I think I can add that too.


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[atomic sagebrush]

You just made my day Atomic! Haha yay Salt!
Got my plan last night and I'm going to buy my Vitex, SP & Folic Acid today. Any suggested brands or sources? I was planning on going to CVS.


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any name brand available in your area is fine. Avoid plastic bags from "Joe's Herb Shoppe of Topanga Canyon." :)