Starting 2nd month of TTC, please give advice on some possible change ups!

[Emmy2012]

I am thinking of changing up a few things but I am not sure if I should. With my timeline I only have this month or next month to get pregnant or we are stoping untill next April so I REALLY need to get pregnant, but I REALLY REALLY want it to be a girl.....soo....
Last month we did:
14 day abstain then one time two day cut-off, hot shower that time
-then did two day release until one time o+12, hot bath (hubby said too much, he had a hard time releasing and he said it did not feel like much)
DH is on licorce root too. I did douche and rephresh every three days and some aci-jel with the O+12. Also did zyrtec.

so thinking this month to do:
DH still on licorce root but maybe only hot showers before attempts not bath
10 day abstain then DTD night of 3 day, then morning and night of 2 day. With I mean days before O. And I will not do the o+12 this time. i think I just do not feel comfortable with the close to O time with my history of when I conceived my boys. I am hoping with the abstain then the 3 times within 24 hours I might get some more spermies up there to do the job but still keep sperm count somewhat lower. What do you guys think? Also I will still do the douche and represh every three days ending on the am before my attempts start. That should keep me good through O.
Diet and supps all remain the same of course!
Please give me any and all advice!! Thanks!

[Emmy2012]

Or should I do 12 day abstain then do a one shot the am of the day before O, so that would only really be a one day cut-off? I don't know. I just wonder what is better....the one shot deal...even though it would be less cut-off? Or gettinga bit more up there with the two day cut-off....yikes! I want to pregnant but I NEED to stay in as much girl territory as possible. Not that I won't love and want a boy just this is my last shot for a girl so I really want it! LOL

[purplepoet20]

8-10 day abstain might be better if you want a better shot at a BFP...

I was also worried about DTD to close to O so we... abstained from AF (10 days) did day 5-3 before O (every 12hrs) and then several times after the O+8 for a few days. I douched from end of AF until the day before we started DTD and then I used a very small pea size amount of rephresh 1hr before each attemped (from day 5 until 48hrs after O).

Hubby took Saw Palmetto, Lic root, A, E, C, 1000mg cal, 250 mag, 8000 cranberry (yes that much), sudafed every 12hrs, bendryl at night, and zyrtec in am. I know it seems like a lot but his ph has been really high and the stuff was very wet. Also some of the supps were because I want healthy sperm. I took saw palmetto (very small amount), 5000 cal, 250 mag, 24,000 cranberry, sudafed every 12 hrs, bendryl at night, zyrtec in am, 300? vitex, raspberry leaf, 800 folic acid, and iron. My ph was 4.8 before using the rephresh and douche.

I will post full details next week if I get a BFP by the 14th.

[rainbowflower]

personally I think if you want to get pregnant fast you should DTD on OV day - even if you conceived sons on OV day before, you are now doing many other things to sway and the studies do show that the timing doesn't sway even on OV day so it was probably luck (or other unintentional blue things) that got you your DSs before. Even if you DTD on OV day you only have a 30% chance of pregnancy each month if you are at your most fertile and pink swaying will reduce that further by making you less-fertile. If you do ANY cut off, you will reduce your chance each month to below the 30%. If you're doing the diet and the rephresh as well as other things to sway, I think the timing shouldn't be a worry for you.

[Emmy2012]

If I don't get pregnant this month I move to night before O but I want to avoid O if possible. So I am not quite ready to bd on O day yet. LOL I do want to get pregnant but I am too afraid of giving up my last shot at a girl.

[Emmy2012]

Ok...maybe I will do 8 day abstain then one time in the am day before O......still up in the air about O+12...might put it in there if I can nail it down, might not.
-So the abstain one time deal is most likely better then abstain and two times beofre O time...right? This is the main think I am stressing about.....

[zanacal]

Hi Tiffany, it's so hard to decide what to do isn't it?! You have to do what feels right for you :D

I'm wondering why you're both douching and using Rephresh every 3 days. The Rephresh is meant to adhere to your vaginal walls so it keeps working between applications and I'm thinking that a douche would potentially wash it all away. Also, how close to your attempt did you use the Rephresh?

If you really want to get pregnant but still want a cut-off then I think maybe you need to have more sex! You're definitely going with an abstain rather than BDing from AF-O (or cut-off)? We're going to regular BD but we'll use a condom until our cut-off and I already have in mind that if I don't get pregnant after a couple of cycles of this then I'll drop the condoms! Maybe this month DTD once only, like you have been, but with less of a cut-off - 1 day like you suggest (and I've seen loads of girls conceived with a 1 day cut-off on these boards and others!) but consider swapping to regular BDing next month if that doesn't work?

[rainbowflower]

agree with zana - I think if you still want to do the 1-day cut off then more BDing is the way forwards! plus that's more likely to have healthy sperm that way isn't it? wishing you sticky pink dust whichever way you choose :)

[Emmy2012]

Ok so should I do ----7 day abstain...one time am day before O
-----10 days freq release outside then one time am day before O
-----or 7 day abstain, dtd two or three times with last time being am day before O?

[zanacal]

I feel like I'm stalking you :D

As I said, I think option 3 is good. I would also think about not using both a douche and Rephresh.

[Emmy2012]

Ok cool! thanks! I love love love the help and advice!!!

[rainbowflower]

I think option 4 would be the best for you - 7 day frequent release stopping the am before O making sure more than 1 lot of that release is inside perhaps on alternate days, simply because there's the added risk of birth defects from abstaining in general

[atomic sagebrush]

I am thinking of changing up a few things but I am not sure if I should. With my timeline I only have this month or next month to get pregnant or we are stoping untill next April so I REALLY need to get pregnant, but I REALLY REALLY want it to be a girl.....soo....
Last month we did:
14 day abstain then one time two day cut-off, hot shower that time
-then did two day release until one time o+12, hot bath (hubby said too much, he had a hard time releasing and he said it did not feel like much)
DH is on licorce root too. I did douche and rephresh every three days and some aci-jel with the O+12. Also did zyrtec.

so thinking this month to do:
DH still on licorce root but maybe only hot showers before attempts not bath
10 day abstain then DTD night of 3 day, then morning and night of 2 day. With I mean days before O. And I will not do the o+12 this time. i think I just do not feel comfortable with the close to O time with my history of when I conceived my boys. I am hoping with the abstain then the 3 times within 24 hours I might get some more spermies up there to do the job but still keep sperm count somewhat lower. What do you guys think? Also I will still do the douche and represh every three days ending on the am before my attempts start. That should keep me good through O.
Diet and supps all remain the same of course!
Please give me any and all advice!! Thanks!

That is def. overkill if you're in a hurry to get pg. I would pick EITHER douche or RepHresh or Acijel, not all three together. Nothing will get through all that!!

I personally think it is best to do just one attempt with abstaining but I understand if you want to do 2 or 3. I do think your odds are much greatly increased with a one day cutoff. I totally agree about the O+12 because I don't even think 99% of people are even able to get pg from O+12 and most of the so-called O+12 were actually closer to O.

I just want to float the idea that licorice root AND hot bath AND abstinence may be too much for your husband's sperm to take. I would lose the hot bath and maybe consider switching to FR - but if he can't do that, then abstinence is great too.

[atomic sagebrush]

Or should I do 12 day abstain then do a one shot the am of the day before O, so that would only really be a one day cut-off? I don't know. I just wonder what is better....the one shot deal...even though it would be less cut-off? Or gettinga bit more up there with the two day cut-off....yikes! I want to pregnant but I NEED to stay in as much girl territory as possible. Not that I won't love and want a boy just this is my last shot for a girl so I really want it! LOL

With a 12 day abstain you may NEED to DTD without a long cutoff because there will be less sperm and they may not be as hardy.

[atomic sagebrush]

personally I think if you want to get pregnant fast you should DTD on OV day - even if you conceived sons on OV day before, you are now doing many other things to sway and the studies do show that the timing doesn't sway even on OV day so it was probably luck (or other unintentional blue things) that got you your DSs before. Even if you DTD on OV day you only have a 30% chance of pregnancy each month if you are at your most fertile and pink swaying will reduce that further by making you less-fertile. If you do ANY cut off, you will reduce your chance each month to below the 30%. If you're doing the diet and the rephresh as well as other things to sway, I think the timing shouldn't be a worry for you.

:agree: 1000%

[Emmy2012]

So Atomic...between these two options which would you do:

7 day abstain, DTD pm of 3 day and am and pm of 2 day before O then nothing

Of 9 day abstain dtd am of 1 day before O only.

I don't know....maybe I am overkilling but I so want it to be a girl! I am so afraid of boy number 6! Not that I don't love boys I adore my boys but it would just mean no girl since this is our last for sure.

[atomic sagebrush]

No, I totally understand!!! In that case, do what you feel like you need to do and then if, God forbid, an opposite happens you can walk away knowing you did everything you possibly could.

I would pick option B. Longer abstain and only BD once will be working for you and I really don't think timing sways.