Girl sway, when prone to girls, sway boy?

[dreamingpink3]

I wasnt sure what to title this but this is my first post, Ive been reading the advice from gender forums for months and theres so much conflicting infomation. Ive read so much my brain hurts... up until today ive been limiting calories to 1400 a day, eating plain boiled rice, scrambled egg on toast and lots of yogurt and cranberry juice. Im also taking supps (cal, mag, FA, cranberry) i feel so moody on this diet all the time as ive alwasy eaten really fatty, salty food. Today I read that calcium supplements etc are no good for a pink sway but ive been taking them for about 6 weeks now :(

I have 2 girls already but would like one more and then I'm done having children... some people think its odd ttc for another girl but there are serious illnesses that run in the boys in my family - not the girls for some reason.

My previous 2 girls were not a sway.. ive never been particularly underweight or anything... i have lost weight before ttc both times but not right before, more like a few months before and then maintained that weight if that makes sense. Myself and OH have always been frequent BDers too so maybe thats what contributed to my girls as well? we Also used to drink occasionally too.

The thing is... could changing my diet to a stereotypical girl sway actualy sway boy if i make girls anyway??
I know stress isnt allowed on a girl diet but i am literally driving myself crazy and getting so upset that i feel like just giving up and not ttc or just accept that statistically i will have a boy next :(

[dreamingpink3]

Just to make a bit more sense and give a better picture, here is my sway (got a bit in a fluster as ive been very stressed out the past few days lol)

Calcium 1200mg
magnesium 300mg
Folic acid
Cranberry 1500mg + 200ml-400ml of ocean spray (not sugar free)

Low salt (used to eat loads)
Low potassium (used to eat jacket potatoes 3x per week along with chips and crisps daily)
Avoiding: tomatoes, potattoes and all junk food.

Added: Cows milk, lots of goats cheese and some cow cheese, TONS of yogurt (about 225g daily) white pasta and white rice.

Skipping breakfast: sometimes... I wake at 6am and ddont eat until 9:30am - 12pm depends on how im feeling each day.

Daily calorie intake on avg: 1200 - 1600
Fat avg: 30g - 40g
protein avg: 40g - 50g

Mineral water: evian, when im thirsty - im a terrible drinker but for a few days i did manage 2ltrs for about 3 days in a row but i just felt sick doing this so have gone back to drinking when i get thirsty.

Exercise: None as i cant fir 1 hour in with the children.

Ions: (not sure i believe in this but anythings worth a try right?) Rose quarts bracelet and lavender fabric conditioner and lavender oil in an oil burner.

I am also occasionally BF my youngest (23mo) although she eats solids so the breast is really only there for night times and comfort purposes.

Today I have woken up, eaten half a tub of ice cream, a cupcake and a glass of cranberry juice as Im feeling pretty sorry for myself since reading about calcium and magnesium... what should i do? hold off ttc until I get the supps out of my system? carry on eating how I was and just cut out supps?

OH and I were planning to BD as much as possible through the month (so far its been every other day) and then we planned to do CFR when i get my +OPK... is that right for girl sway?

[atomic sagebrush]

There is conflicting information because we try to use the newest and best info available and not keep going with old outdated tactics that aren't working.

There are biological reasons why the girl sway diet works. There is not a person who is an exception whose body works the opposite. Any more than someone who holds their breath too long won't faint. :)

If you got girls already you may have just been more "set" for girls for any of a variety of reasons. I wouldn't analyze your diet too much because it may not have even been diet related. I cannot tell you why you conceived girls. No one can. I recommend not thinking about it too much and just KFX that your luck holds (altho I will say boys are awesome!!)

What you are eating is NOT LE Diet. I am not sure what diet you're following but it's unhealthy and I strongly suggest you reading up on what the requirements are for HEALTHY swaying. Starting with potassium and going from there. You are not supposed to starve yourself or eat no potassium on ANY sway diet - all the sway diets have potassium requirements of 2500-3500 mg a day becaus eyou can die otherwise.

Some types of fat actually sway pink and we are finding better results since we dropped the sodium restriction.

[atomic sagebrush]

Many people believe in calcium and magnesium for swaying and have gotten girls with them. I don't, but if you believe in them that is what counts.

I am highly concerned about your diet because I think it is unhealthy. Not because it sways this way or that, but because it is so limited in nutrients. LE Diet is not NO nutrient, it's low nutrient, and you need to be eating a minimum of 2500 mg potassium a day or you risk death.

I think your BD pattern is extremely blue friendly and I would stop what you're doing now, have husband release every day between now and then, and have only one attempt in your fertile window O-3 thru O day. That means ONLY ONE attempt in all those days, not one every day. WE are getting 70-75% success for pink with the one attempt.

[dreamingpink3]

So can I eat jacket potatoes? I just dont want to sway blue as boys all have the same heriditary mental illness in my family, i dont know why and many doctors dont believe its heriditary but it must be for all but one male in my family to have it. I would love a boy if i could guarentee 100% he wouldnt be like the men in my family.

Im so confused as I just dont know what to do... If i eat normally then i exceed 2000 calories a day... I usually eat loads of junk food (crisps, chocolate etc) im just desperate i guess... i know im over analysing it because I ate ALL forbidden food with both my girls (i live on pasta and tomato sauce for example) ive definitely noticed i feel depressed since changing my eating habits... im just scared of adding too many nutrients. Im unable to track everything as i dont know whats in what foods. My ph is 4.5 but ive read thats normal and wont sway. The other problem i have is my OH wont release daily nor can he go more than once in one day so i dont know what to do... i was wanting to bd daily but he just cant manage it as he works hard and then crashes most nights... perhaps abstaining may help?

[dreamingpink3]

If im honest i dont understand the LE diet.. its not much different from my usual eating habits but i still gain weight on that amount... I tend to gain weight if i have more than 1800 a day but i thought if you gain weight you run the risk of swaying blue?

[essnce629]

The LE diet doesn't forbid any foods really, although most of us swaying girl avoid cereal since it is fortified with extra vitamins. You want to stick to 1400-1800 calories, 30-40g of protein, and 30-60g of fat a day. No need to worry about or limit potassium or sodium. I'd drop the calcium, magnesium, and cranberry as extra nutrients sway boy. Most of us girl swayers are only taking folic acid or folate. If you eat dairy you want it to be nonfat or low fat. Full fat dairy sways boy.

Most of the current girl swayers are doing:

*LE diet
*One attempt at +opk OR bd every 4 days (not worrying about PH, frequency, abstaining, or cut offs)
*Hour of cardio OR no exercise at all
*No snacking between meals
*No breakfast
*Alcohol daily
*Caffeine daily
*Olive leaf extract and/or licorice root for DH
*Folic acid or folate for DW

Most are not doing Rephresh or Sylk, vitex, antihistamines, or jump and dump as they don't seem to sway much but do decrease the chance of getting pregnant.

[dreamingpink3]

Thank you for your replies.

In regards to alcohol, am I supposed to be having a drink daily? wont that make me gain weight swaying boy? I genrally eat about 1800 calories a day normally as ive been trying to shift my pregnancy weight but i honestly thing the hormones from breastfeeding are preventing me from losing anything.

[dreamingpink3]

Also, am i meant to try to stick by every point, so keeping to 1400cals and skip breakfast and caffeine daily for example?

[ELP]

With a boy sway its more abut gaining condition and nutrition rather than just weight, the weight may come with it but is not what we are aiming for:) So you could eat nothing but chocolate, gain 100lbs! but technically you would be unhealthily swaying girl as your body has lost/used up all of the good stuff that it needs so has put itself in to lean times which the LE is about. (I think?? AS :bigsmile:)

[atomic sagebrush]

I recommend you look into HT then if this is a potential medical situation. I really do.

Yes, it's clear to me you are confused about what the LE Diet even is. Has nothing to do with "magic foods" and many of us got girls eating potatoes and pasta with sauce (my daughter is nearly entirely comprised of such things)

Oh and I missed this the first time thru but it is IMPERATIVE you do not start drinking tons of water with the diet you've ben following. You are going to end up killing yourself because you're flushing out the small amounts of nutrient you're taking in.

[atomic sagebrush]

Here is a short version of the LE Diet: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/16780-low-everything-diet-nutshell-version.html
and here is the LE Diet FAQ http://r.duckduckgo.com/l/?kh=-1&uddg=http%3A%2F%2Fgenderdreaming.com%2Fforum%2Ftry ing-to-conceive-a-girl%2F24628-le-diet-faq.html

These may help clear up some of your confusion. If not, ASK! :) If you give me specific questions I can help you.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you for your replies.

In regards to alcohol, am I supposed to be having a drink daily? wont that make me gain weight swaying boy? I genrally eat about 1800 calories a day normally as ive been trying to shift my pregnancy weight but i honestly thing the hormones from breastfeeding are preventing me from losing anything.

You can if you would like and we have gotten outstanding results with it so far (albeit with fairly small sample size). Weight is calories in, calories out, and if you eat less calories than you burn, you lose weight.

I have a dreadful time losing weigh when I'm breastfeeeding as well. Esp. the first 6 months. Over time it will come off tho.

[atomic sagebrush]

Also, am i meant to try to stick by every point, so keeping to 1400cals and skip breakfast and caffeine daily for example?

NO. Any changes you make in a pink friendly direction will only help your sway. You do not need to do everything if you cannot do everything. This diet is not like the "old school" sway diets where if you do one thing different it won't work.

Do the stuff that works for you and even if it's only 1 or 2 things, it still helps sway pink. :)

[dreamingpink3]

All the ready meals im eating are all fortified with a few vitamins. I'm only eating ready meals as theyre calorie controlled and I dont know how to calorie count. What im confused with is alot of women say dont gain weight on a pink sway but to eat low nutritious foods... the thing is low nutritious foods like crisps and chocolate are very high in calories which would lead to weight gain (this is all ive been eating for years naturally) but home cooked meals that are low in calorie are usually very high in nutrition as most veg is low cal... whats best to go for - low cal or low nutrition?

[True Blue]

Dreamingpink Im wondering if this might help you on food choices. It's a thread of girl sway moms sharing their diets.

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/47163-lets-record-what-were-eating-help-each-other.html

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Def check out that thread - I haven't posted in a couple days but it's really helpful to get you going - there are 4-5 of us actively in that thread right now.


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[atomic sagebrush]

All the ready meals im eating are all fortified with a few vitamins. I'm only eating ready meals as theyre calorie controlled and I dont know how to calorie count. What im confused with is alot of women say dont gain weight on a pink sway but to eat low nutritious foods... the thing is low nutritious foods like crisps and chocolate are very high in calories which would lead to weight gain (this is all ive been eating for years naturally) but home cooked meals that are low in calorie are usually very high in nutrition as most veg is low cal... whats best to go for - low cal or low nutrition?

first question - it is fine to eat the ready made meals SOMETIMES and there's no way to totally avoid fortified foods. But it may be a fool's errand if you're cutting calories but eating ONLY super fortified foods. Prenatal vitamins are one of the highest successes we have with our boy sways (consistently above 80%) and eating heavily fortified foods, you may as well be taking a vitamin.

second question - Yes, you absolutely CAN lose weight eating lower nutrient foods and no, crisps and chocolate are not the only ways to eat lower nutrients. Just by cutting calories and protein and fat you are going a LONG way towards eating lower nutrients. You can eat things that are seemingly healthy like rice and salad and vegetables and skim dairy and those things are still going to be lower nutrients.

You have to read the diet threads I posted as they will answer a lot of your confusion, I suspect.

RE vegetables and nutrients - you would have to eat a mountain of broccoli to get even a fraction of the nutrients in a burger and fries and chocolate shake. DO NOT fear vegetables on LE Diet - they are FREE meaning you can have as much as you want and do not even have to count them!

[dreamingpink3]

In regards to skipping breakfast, how is that done. I wake up at 6am every morning but dont normally eat lunch until 1pm... do I really need to go 7 hours without food? Is there a time limit that is classified as skipping breakfast or does it mean youre only allowed 2 meals a day?

[dreamingpink3]

So ive been sticking to every 4 days BD... what happens if I end up having sex 4 days before O... can I still get pregnant?

[atomic sagebrush]

In regards to skipping breakfast, how is that done. I wake up at 6am every morning but dont normally eat lunch until 1pm... do I really need to go 7 hours without food? Is there a time limit that is classified as skipping breakfast or does it mean youre only allowed 2 meals a day?

You can have either 2 or 3 meals, whatever works for you.

???going 7 hours without food is nothing. Most of us are going 12-16 hours (overnight) are you asking about during the day?

All you need to do is just push back the time of day when you're eating breakfast. If you're already waking up at 6 and not eating till 1, that is more than enough and you do not need to do any more than that. If you're eating breakfast at 6, then just try to push it back a little, like till 9 or 10 or so.

[atomic sagebrush]

So ive been sticking to every 4 days BD... what happens if I end up having sex 4 days before O... can I still get pregnant?

You can, but you'd have sex again on O day so you'd be covered if everything had died off.

Most people push it a little closer - O-3 and then again on O day. Up to you though

[dreamingpink3]

Well, im now in the 2ww. O'd this morning but dtd last night so it was almost 4 days from our last bd (12 hours under).

Hope ive done enough, i was missing breakfast until around 11am-1pm and i wouldnt eat dinner past 5pm so i was going ages without food.

I did eat alot of yogurt at the beginning of the month and i did take cal+mag but stoppped it about 2 weeks ago.

Ive stuck to 1500-1800 cals a day (with a few treat days)

jumped and dumped after last nights bd.

Continued to drink cranberry simply because i suffer from UTIs

Breastfeeding my 23 month old still

No exercise at all

lots of refined carbs with some fats from low fat cheeses and milk

Oh and ive had a strict vegetarian diet for about 8 weeks (maybe more) although ive eaten fish on rare occasions.

Hoping this is a good enough sway, although i havent lost any weight so im not sure

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

GL dreamingpink - I think it's a great sway.
Breastfeeding is hard to loose those last few pounds (or at least that's what i think is happening to me) but also sways pink so ya for EBF!!!!!
Fx for your bfp!


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[atomic sagebrush]

good luck!

[dreamingpink3]

Thank you! I should know by the 17th if im pg or not and then i wont know what the gender is until next year but i will continue to post on here and i will submit my result whatevever happens xx

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Yes keep us in the loop!!!


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[dreamingpink3]

Got my very dark bfp this morning :)

[essnce629]

Yay, how exciting!!!!

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Woooot! Congrats!!!


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[XXforhubby]

Big congrats!!


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[atomic sagebrush]

congrats!

[Amelia8]

Congrats! I'm a bfp too and hoping for girl! Good luck and I think your sway sounds great!!

[dreamingpink3]

I think the only thing thats going to mess my sway up is the fact that i ate tons of cheese and yogurt thinking that calcium swayed girl... and also to compensate for goig veggie as cheese was what got me through lol

[atomic sagebrush]

Many of us had some cheese and yogurt - I know I did.

Did you stick in overall limits of diet? If so then don't worry.

[dreamingpink3]

I basically reduced my calories to 1800 (avg.), i avoided high nutritional foods (although some food was fortified) I skipped breakfast more often than not, I breastfeed, I took cranberry magnesium and calcium but then dropped them about 10 days before O (didnt realise it could sway boy). I also Bd'd every 4 days, did jump and dump and a put lemon juice up my v. I also O'd over a week later than normal (im like clockwork CD14 but I didnt O until CD23) so I can only assume my low nutrient diet made O late. I'm praying so hard for a girl but tbh my gut says boy (my gut is always right lol) so im picking out boys names and trying to be positive as I know theres no guarentee that if i hae a boy he will inherit the genetic disorder from boys in my family.

[dreamingpink3]

Im also vegetarian (which aparently sways girl)

[dreamingpink3]

I did google something last night which was intersteing, I looked at the top 10 countries that consume the most cheese in the world (top one being france) and frances female population considerably higher than its male population. I know cheese could be nothing to do with it... it could be the fact they drink alot of wine? But its also interesting to know that their water is higher in calcium than other countries. I know google isnt alwasy reliable but I just found it interesting.

[atomic sagebrush]

The natural gender ratio AT BIRTH is about 50-50 all around the world, ranging between 102 boys for every 100 girls to 107 boys for every 100 girls depending on the country, and what you are looking at is ALL men and women and not the birth rate. France's is 105 boys for every 100 girls, perfectly normal. Here is how I know that.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_sex_ratio

(ps, before anyone chimes in here mentioning Asian countries that appear to have higher sex ratios that is due to sex specific abortion and not naturally occuring)

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Ugh they still do that huh?


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[atomic sagebrush]

Yeah unfortunately it happens all the time. And I now believe that explains many of the so-called observations in hte French Gender Diet book where he claimed "many more boys are conceived in Asia because they don't drink milk and eat a lot of salt" because they used to do infanticide at birth and stil do in many countries. I have read recently that the most dangerous day of a child's life is the day that they're born.

[Hitmebabyonemoretime]

Makes my stomach churn. And here all I want is a daughter.


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[dreamingpink3]

if its 50/50 then surely theres no point in swaying and it shows that swaying doesnt work? I'm confused

[True Blue]

It's 50/50 without any swaying. That's why swaying is called swaying, we use it to sway the odds more in our favor. So maybe we start out at 50/50 but by making the changes in a boy/girl friendly way we can sway more in favour of our DG.

[atomic sagebrush]

if its 50/50 then surely theres no point in swaying and it shows that swaying doesnt work? I'm confused

YOUR CHANCES are not 50-50, the amount of boys and girls conceived across the whole population end up to be about half boys and half girls. That says nothing for one person's chances, one person may have 80-20 odds, another may have 60-40, another may have 30-70. But for reasons we don't know, across the whole human population of every country every where averages out to be about 50-50, with slighlty more males born.

Study after study has shown that some things that people do alter the gender ratio from what it is supposed to be and all scientists agree on that. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/swaying-studies-and-scientific-research/32383-defense-swaying-part-1-a.html

[atomic sagebrush]

It's 50/50 without any swaying. That's why swaying is called swaying, we use it to sway the odds more in our favor. So maybe we start out at 50/50 but by making the changes in a boy/girl friendly way we can sway more in favour of our DG.

Just to clarify, the 50-50 ratio is across the whole human population. It doesn't mean that each individual person has an equal chance of a boy or a girl every time they TTC. Some of us may be heavily set for one or the other but overall the average ends up being about 50-50. That does not mean every person has half boys and half girls. There are those of us with 4 boys and a girl and those with 4 girls and a boy, and the average is 50-50. .

[atomic sagebrush]

if its 50/50 then surely theres no point in swaying and it shows that swaying doesnt work? I'm confused

Our statistics show clearly that swaying is working for people. If it didn't work it would be glaringly obvious after 4 years and I would not be here wasting everyone's time.

[goodmom]

Yes they still do abortion on asia side due to specific gender need ...m not sure about one thing ppl in subcontinent like india n all they eat spicy curry food and curry is basically made up of onions, tomatoes , ginger and garlic which i thing all seems to sway blue and they eat tht almost everyday still they end up with more girls ...
And there is always demand of boys on tht side i mean kind of they wish to hv boys ...

[dreamingpink3]

my main concern is that im heavily meant to have girls (2 already) and swaying for girl may have messed up my hormaonal balance or whatever and actually swayed boy. So scared.... i want a surprise but ill be miserable throughout until i know its a girl... and what if its not... is it possible to get GD at the birth?? So i have a chouce of: dont find out until birth and hope i bond no matter what but it means ill have a miserable pregnancy or find out and if its a boy, have a sad pregnancy and if its a girl have a worry free happy pregnancy. Im just so scared if i have a boy he will inherit a common family illness that runs in the boys.

[True Blue]

Just to clarify, the 50-50 ratio is across the whole human population. It doesn't mean that each individual person has an equal chance of a boy or a girl every time they TTC. Some of us may be heavily set for one or the other but overall the average ends up being about 50-50. That does not mean every person has half boys and half girls. There are those of us with 4 boys and a girl and those with 4 girls and a boy, and the average is 50-50. .

Oh for sure - I'm heavily set for girls as I've come to learn :)

[Dreamingofpinkafter2blue]

If it's really that risky or the chances are so high, did you doctor advise you not to get pregnant without assistance?

[dreamingpink3]

No because its a mental illness so cant be detected before birth I dont think. But aall the men have it so I know the chances are my boy will too. But in the uk gender selection is illegal as far as im aware. So we have to rely on swaying. I was happy to stick at 2 but hubby really wanted another and I would feel bad to deny him of the big family he wanted.

[Dana-Alicia]

my main concern is that im heavily meant to have girls (2 already) and swaying for girl may have messed up my hormaonal balance or whatever and actually swayed boy. So scared.... i want a surprise but ill be miserable throughout until i know its a girl... and what if its not... is it possible to get GD at the birth?? So i have a chouce of: dont find out until birth and hope i bond no matter what but it means ill have a miserable pregnancy or find out and if its a boy, have a sad pregnancy and if its a girl have a worry free happy pregnancy. Im just so scared if i have a boy he will inherit a common family illness that runs in the boys.

I get that. I got my first baby, a girl, without swaying. She passed away from a malformation that mostly hits girls, 9 out of 10 babies affected with this are girls. That's fear number one for me. My oldest son has autism, my second son is very much like his brother. Everyone told me with my eldest he is fine and that I was worrying too much. Now look here, I was right. With my second son the exact same things are said to me, everyone is in denial again and I'm seeing it clear as day I could scream! My oldest son was also born with a medical issue that only affects boys. Autism also mostly affects boys. Either way, wether I get a boy or a girl, I'm scared to death. But what can I do? The heart wants what the heart wants. All we can do is try our best and hope for a healthy baby. I just close my eyes and jump. You will love your baby no matter what, whether your baby is healthy or not. My life is full of worries and it's hard work caring for my sensitive boys. But it's rewarding, I wouldn't change them for the world. If you have a son, you will find you will still be the proudest mom in the world!

However, if you are still very scared and would def not want a son, there are options out there for HT, also in Europe. In Czech you can do HT for much less than in the US. I've considered it, but it scared me because I struggle with health issues myself and don't know how my body will respond to all the meds. I'm sure my OB would strongly advice against it. And I would love another boy regardless. Just hoping if he comes to us, he will be healthy. But if not, he will join our little crazy bunch and fit right in!

[atomic sagebrush]

my main concern is that im heavily meant to have girls (2 already) and swaying for girl may have messed up my hormaonal balance or whatever and actually swayed boy. So scared.... i want a surprise but ill be miserable throughout until i know its a girl... and what if its not... is it possible to get GD at the birth?? So i have a chouce of: dont find out until birth and hope i bond no matter what but it means ill have a miserable pregnancy or find out and if its a boy, have a sad pregnancy and if its a girl have a worry free happy pregnancy. Im just so scared if i have a boy he will inherit a common family illness that runs in the boys.

Well, 2 girls does not mean you're heavily meant to do anything. There are people with 6-8 girls! :) Tons of people have 2 girls and then a boy just naturally without doing anything seemingly differently.

I think swaying pink is swaying pink no matter what. Just like if you hold your breath you run out of oxygen, one person's body just doesn't work differently from other people. You can sway and get an opposite of course.

Honestly, I am not sure I'd TTC naturally if it is that much of a sure thing - I'm not saying you shouldn't, just that if you're this fearful about the possibility and have 2 girls already, I'm not sure I'd proceed if it was me. (not that you should or shouldn't do anything, just saying what I would wonder in your situation)