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Threelittlemen2013
May 4th, 2015, 04:46 PM
I know we should start this pattern right after af, but I typically spot for 1-2 days after my normal flow. Would I wait to start until the spotting is gone or just the normal flow? Thanks!
Bobster
May 4th, 2015, 05:38 PM
I have no idea sorry. Just wanted to chime in and ask someone if they know the reason why every 4 days is meant to sway pink? Hope someone answers your question soon :)
XXforhubby
May 4th, 2015, 05:44 PM
I know we should start this pattern right after af, but I typically spot for 1-2 days after my normal flow. Would I wait to start until the spotting is gone or just the normal flow? Thanks!
Do whatever is comfortable for you and your DH. My spotting is so scant that we don't notice, but if yours is more than that you may not want to. Just keep up BDing until past the latest you've ever Zoe's in case you ovulate later than expected.
GL!
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XXforhubby
May 4th, 2015, 05:45 PM
I have no idea sorry. Just wanted to chime in and ask someone if they know the reason why every 4 days is meant to sway pink? Hope someone answers your question soon :)
BDing every 4 days is like having only one attempt in your fertile window. Opks don't always work well for people and BDing every 4 days takes a lot less stress out of TTCing.
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Bobster
May 5th, 2015, 03:42 PM
I get you thanks XX. Wouldn't the sperm still be of good quality though after 4 days? If you are certain when you O is it better to do one attempt at positive opk with a 7 day abstain instead?
XXforhubby
May 5th, 2015, 03:49 PM
I get you thanks XX. Wouldn't the sperm still be of good quality though after 4 days? If you are certain when you O is it better to do one attempt at positive opk with a 7 day abstain instead?
Not necessarily depending on how old DH is. We have found the longer people sway and not getting pregnant, BDing every 4 days promotes better sperm health and helps to get pregnant. Think of it this way, BDing every 4 days is just like having an attempt at the positive opk. Most people start out doing all sorts of sway tactics. As people go on not getting pregnant, they drop all the lubes, jellies, and MAY need to switch to BDing every 4-3 days to get pregnant while keeping diet and exercise (if you're doing that).
We are finding abstaining isn't helping much, if at all. Best odds of conception= 1 attempt at the FIRST positive opk OR BDing every 4 days.
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maidentomother
May 5th, 2015, 06:58 PM
What XX said. I'd start whenever you're comfortable. I personally like BD during AF so I'd start as soon as my cramps abate.
Threelittlemen2013
May 5th, 2015, 07:56 PM
What XX said. I'd start whenever you're comfortable. I personally like BD during AF so I'd start as soon as my cramps abate.
We started last night, but still debating on doing every 3 instead of every 4 with one extra. It will probablh be a last minute decision, but I am tired of opks!
HealthyGirl
May 6th, 2015, 12:37 AM
I'm so tired of opk as well.
Currently doing every 3 days and might add an extra attempt last min. I am however checking still with opk and monitor to see if I should add in that extra attempt.
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Threelittlemen2013
May 6th, 2015, 07:35 AM
I decided to go with the every 3 days and will decide it I will throw in an extra after my follicle scan on monday....depends on if I am able to get the trigger shot or not.
maidentomother
May 6th, 2015, 10:04 AM
I almost never get true positives and O late so I hate OPKs too! Plus I don't get much progression/warning often, and none with most brands.
Threelittlemen2013
May 6th, 2015, 10:39 AM
I almost never get true positives and O late so I hate OPKs too! Plus I don't get much progression/warning often, and none with most brands.
I can relate!!! So taking the least stressful approach this month.
atomic sagebrush
May 8th, 2015, 02:07 PM
I know we should start this pattern right after af, but I typically spot for 1-2 days after my normal flow. Would I wait to start until the spotting is gone or just the normal flow? Thanks!
Makes no difference, whenever YOU are comfy. Some people don't like DTD when there's any spotting, others don't care.
atomic sagebrush
May 8th, 2015, 02:08 PM
I have no idea sorry. Just wanted to chime in and ask someone if they know the reason why every 4 days is meant to sway pink? Hope someone answers your question soon :)
It isn't meant to sway pink. It is just an effortless way (without having to worry about OPK or guesswork about when you may O) of getting in regular attempts so it ends up being often enough to conceive, but still equates to roughly one attempt in the fertile window (because anything before will have all died off, anything after, the egg would be either fertilized or dead)
We don't know why one attempt sways pink, only that it DOES.
atomic sagebrush
May 8th, 2015, 02:15 PM
I get you thanks XX. Wouldn't the sperm still be of good quality though after 4 days? If you are certain when you O is it better to do one attempt at positive opk with a 7 day abstain instead?
Yes, but you guys have got to realize that the whole thing with the frequency patterns (with the exception of abstain which is old leftover Shettles stuff), I MADE UP 4 years ago. Based on the info available info at the time which seemed to indicate sperm numbers swayed pink somehow, we guessed that frequency was probably swaying and I came up with those patterns to try and capitalize on that. But it hasn't worked. They do prob. sway pink a little bit but they lower odds of conception so much that tons of people had to drop them just to get pg at all,a nd then the results were not as high as I would want to see for the trouble they cause. In fact, it became apparent that it was number of attempts that were swaying and not frequency (at least not in any reliable way) and so it is time for frequency to give way to one attempt and getting pg with that, instead of keeping frequency in the mix for NO REASON and then having people add attempts to up odds of conception IT DOESN'T WORK.
Since we started to move away from frequency, our numbers have done nothing but improve. Cut the stuff that isn't working, do what works, and get pg fast before diet stops ovulation. :agree:
atomic sagebrush
May 8th, 2015, 02:20 PM
What XX said. I'd start whenever you're comfortable. I personally like BD during AF so I'd start as soon as my cramps abate.
Sorry for TMI but I do too! I always hesitate to mention that :oops: but it's something that is part of my repertoire LOL. So if you are weird like me you can actually start BD BEFORE AF is over with if that's the way you roll. :)
Hitmebabyonemoretime
May 8th, 2015, 06:44 PM
Lol Ya for me, that's like the ou time I seem to have a sex drive lol!!!
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maidentomother
May 9th, 2015, 06:43 AM
I'm horny during AF and everything feels more sensitive down there, I presume from the blood flow. None of my partners ever minded either. Luckily my periods are light especially after CD1 the day of cramps, and I've noticed I actually stop bleeding temporarily during BD, so it's not even that messy. I've found orgasms help my cramps too, even if just briefly.
The only time I don't have much libido is just after AF, around CD5-8 most cycles, when I'm at my dryest. Rrwally my only dry time.
Hitmebabyonemoretime
May 9th, 2015, 07:59 AM
Yep it's mind over matter - if you don't mind shouldn't matter and Ya I've found very seldom that there is a mess to deal with
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