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Dreamingofpinkafter2blue
May 10th, 2015, 07:38 PM
I'm most likely going to be purchasing a plan soon (prob when I get a period). I'm breastfeeding and generally ate more of a boy diet while nursing. However, I'm small. 5'4" and 114 pounds. Before having ds1 I was 100 pounds and still conceived a boy. I was about this weight 114 before conceiving second boy. He's 18 months but still getting a lot of nutrition from nursing. No period yet. I'm starting the LE diet and probably eat closer to 1800. I get super hungry - probably due to nursing.

I can eat a ton and maintain my weight. I have a difficult time losing even a few pounds because nursing makes my body cling on to fat. I hope to wean soon. But then I think nursing may help my sway?

My question is - are intervals ok? I sometimes put my kids in a jogging stroller and kind of jog and walk for 60 minutes now. Sometimes I jog then I get tired and walk. Same with the treadmill. I kind of of do a combo of walking/jogging/running for an hour. Sometimes I will get off the treadmill and do like a stationary bike (super easy pedaling). Are these interval type of exercises going to hurt my sway?

Thanks so much for any input! I have done a lot of research but I feel like I have a unique situation.

Hitmebabyonemoretime
May 10th, 2015, 08:16 PM
This is pretty much what ive been doing so far; sometimes we just walk and even that's been getting good results - it's the 60+ mins and the diet change.
You don't need to lose weight obviously you know that, it's it's maintaining while you switch up the foods.
I think the 1800 cals is smart unless you gain weight.
I am 5 2 and 130lbs with. A 13 month old, so I'm eating s little less bc I have a lot that can come off, but not enough to sacrifice milk quality or supply overall.
18 months pp and no period! Wow!!


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XXforhubby
May 10th, 2015, 08:37 PM
I'm most likely going to be purchasing a plan soon (prob when I get a period). I'm breastfeeding and generally ate more of a boy diet while nursing. However, I'm small. 5'4" and 114 pounds. Before having ds1 I was 100 pounds and still conceived a boy. I was about this weight 114 before conceiving second boy. He's 18 months but still getting a lot of nutrition from nursing. No period yet. I'm starting the LE diet and probably eat closer to 1800. I get super hungry - probably due to nursing.

I can eat a ton and maintain my weight. I have a difficult time losing even a few pounds because nursing makes my body cling on to fat. I hope to wean soon. But then I think nursing may help my sway?

My question is - are intervals ok? I sometimes put my kids in a jogging stroller and kind of jog and walk for 60 minutes now. Sometimes I jog then I get tired and walk. Same with the treadmill. I kind of of do a combo of walking/jogging/running for an hour. Sometimes I will get off the treadmill and do like a stationary bike (super easy pedaling). Are these interval type of exercises going to hurt my sway?

Thanks so much for any input! I have done a lot of research but I feel like I have a unique situation.

I think it should be ok. If you start losing weight though, I would reduce your interval or stop interval training altogether. At your present weight and height, I would hold steady. Since you are breastfeeding, you don't want the return of ovulation or AF to be delayed even more. You haven't gotten your period yet, so don't do too much too soon. When you consider weaning, I would start by dropping the overnight feedings first. This alone can bring back AF. Sometimes this isn't enough, but when you and bub are ready, this would be a good place to start. BFing does sway pink, even for a few months after stopping. I know you conceived before at a lower weight, but with nursing still, I'm concerned if you aim to do that instead of holding steady AF will stay away.

FX and GL to you!


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Dreamingofpinkafter2blue
May 10th, 2015, 09:47 PM
Wow, that was my first post and you ladies are so helpful! I'll keep up the exercising and intervals.

Hmmm....the one thing I want to add. I don't think my pp period is delayed because of weight. I think I'm just super sensitive to nursing. I nursed my first boy until 16 months, got my period once and then immediately got pregnant with my second boy. I didn't really try to sway at all. Some of the things I did were girl friendly (no O, just stopped nursing, was recovering from a virus). I'm worried that I'm super prone to boys (my husband is an all boy family) but again I didn't try the diet or exercising last time.

Oh and I kind of night weaned about 4 weeks ago. I nurse around 8:30pm to sleep and then again at 4:30am. I've never nursed this long before but I feel like my period is coming. I used to have no cervical mucus (dry as a desert) and I would say the past 2 months I have sticky mucus.

XXforhubby
May 10th, 2015, 11:51 PM
Great job on the night weaning! That can sometimes be the difficult ones to cut out! Yay!

I didn't mean to imply that the reason your pp hasn't returned is because of your weight. I am concerned that because of the weight you are at, if you add in interval training it could delay the return and halt ovulation. You can still ovulate without a pp (my girlfriends are proof with their oops babies!)! I just don't want you to compound things further with adding in weight loss. That is what I was meaning. Personally, I think you're at a fantastic weight to TTC- we just need AF to come to better gauge ovulation.


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Hitmebabyonemoretime
May 11th, 2015, 08:34 AM
I agree with xx! You're in. Great place for TTC pink as soon as AF starts!




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atomic sagebrush
May 11th, 2015, 08:47 AM
Now is a good time to get a plan because I don't have a wait right now! :)

I would probably continue nursing, I do think it sways pink. It may make it take longer for your cycle to come back but I suspect that yours will be back sooner rather than later.

I think you should up cals to 1800-2000 because your cycle will probably not come back if you cut back too far. The dietary changes in terms of lower fat and protein intake and lowering nutrients overall will still sway pink even without losing any weight. I would not have you lose any. Do not try to get back down to 100 lbs that is not a healthy weight for you anyway.

Intervals are fine when swaying.

atomic sagebrush
May 11th, 2015, 08:49 AM
Wow, that was my first post and you ladies are so helpful! I'll keep up the exercising and intervals.

Hmmm....the one thing I want to add. I don't think my pp period is delayed because of weight. I think I'm just super sensitive to nursing. I nursed my first boy until 16 months, got my period once and then immediately got pregnant with my second boy. I didn't really try to sway at all. Some of the things I did were girl friendly (no O, just stopped nursing, was recovering from a virus). I'm worried that I'm super prone to boys (my husband is an all boy family) but again I didn't try the diet or exercising last time.

Oh and I kind of night weaned about 4 weeks ago. I nurse around 8:30pm to sleep and then again at 4:30am. I've never nursed this long before but I feel like my period is coming. I used to have no cervical mucus (dry as a desert) and I would say the past 2 months I have sticky mucus.

IT's not weight in and of itself but your body "notices" your weight and may keep your cycle away a bit longer if your weight is lower, than it would otherwise. I think you're going to find it comes back pretty quick with the night weaning.

Dreamingofpinkafter2blue
May 11th, 2015, 12:44 PM
IT's not weight in and of itself but your body "notices" your weight and may keep your cycle away a bit longer if your weight is lower, than it would otherwise. I think you're going to find it comes back pretty quick with the night weaning.

Ohhhhi was hoping you would respond, Atomic. The weird thing about my weight is I was always 100 pounds my whole life. I didn't have my first until I was 28. So I'm not sure if I am just heavier because I'm older? I feel nervous that I was at such a low weight prior to getting my first boy. I was doing a lot to sway boy (not knowing) like acupuncture, pre seed, propping hips, vitex, and Chinese herbs. However, I got pregnant super fast (first cycle trying, and second cycle off BCP). I had just gotten married and had him before our first wedding anniversary.

My second boy I was doing some boy things like vitex, pre nat vitamins, red raspberry tea. But I feel like overall I was doing more girl things (1st pp cycle, just stopped breastfeeding, no big O, husband I were sick when I ovulated and I made him have sex with me....lol).

I think diet will be key for me. I'm trying to stick to 2-3 meals a day. More carbs. Less meat. I do have coffee every morning. 2-3 iced coffees with milk, sometimes cream, and maple syrup (will stop that because I just read it sways boy).

Dreamingofpinkafter2blue
May 11th, 2015, 07:37 PM
Ugh of course I tried to track cals today. I ate about 1700 calories. However, 58 protein grams. 71.5 fat grams (37%). This is going to be harder than I thought.

Hitmebabyonemoretime
May 11th, 2015, 08:51 PM
Let's record what we're eating to help each other (http://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?t=47163)

Idk if that link will work but it's to a thread where we record what we're eating - to help eachother out!!


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maidentomother
May 11th, 2015, 10:12 PM
If 100 lbs is normal for you and you've conceived at that weight, I think it's okay to drop back down to that but no lower. BUT I agree, not while BFing unless you're okay with weaning down to just a few feeds a day.

What YOU/your body do matter much more than your DH. So don't worry about all the boys in his family. That doesn't matter much if at all. Focus on the diet, especially low fat (that is the hardest part for me too, and we are the same size/metabolism), and the daily cardio for 60+ minutes - starting diet/exercise 12 weeks before you begin TTC - and then one BD attempt in your fertile period once you are TTC. Also keep in mind which fats you consume; read the Skinny on Fats thread (link in post below) for details. Then at least if you are going over on fat it will be mostly pink friendly fats. And vegetarian is also ideal.

Welcome and good luck! There are many naturally slim gals swaying pink on here.

maidentomother
May 11th, 2015, 10:13 PM
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/39013-skinny-fats-pink-blue.html

Dreamingofpinkafter2blue
May 11th, 2015, 10:30 PM
Thank you so much! So helpful. I'm used to cooking with grassfed butter all the time so this will be a change! :)

atomic sagebrush
May 13th, 2015, 03:26 PM
It's normal for our weight to be different at different times of our lives. I was always 125 and now my natural setting is 135.

THe maple syrup is ok. Some people want to hunt down every possible thing under the sun that could possibly sway but it is impossible that things like that could really sway much at all.

58 g protein and 71 g fat is not too bad to start with. It's probably way better than what a lot of us were eating when we got boys.

Dreamingofpinkafter2blue
May 13th, 2015, 08:27 PM
Oh gosh. Wayyyy lower for me. While breastfeeding, the past year I was eating kind if paleo. 3 eggs every single day for breakfast with butter! Lots of meat and fat.

I think I'm going to do a laid back sway anyway. I want a girl but if I get another boy, my husband is more likely to agree to 4 babies. :)

Hitmebabyonemoretime
May 13th, 2015, 10:46 PM
Eggs and butter were my liffffe! And cereal. Peanut butter. Sigh [emoji5]️


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maidentomother
May 15th, 2015, 02:30 PM
I used to eat SO much butter and was on a Weston A Price type diet. Super high in healthy fats. So I understand, it is a biiiig change but it makes sense that so many slim, healthy, fertile women eating high fat, high nutrient diets get boys.

It's great that you're okay either gender and a relaxed approach often works better than a super strict 'perfect' pink sway. Like atomic said, even small changes sway and you never know how much of a push you need to get pink. I hope you get a girl AND hubby okays a 4th. :)

atomic sagebrush
May 15th, 2015, 02:48 PM
Oh gosh. Wayyyy lower for me. While breastfeeding, the past year I was eating kind if paleo. 3 eggs every single day for breakfast with butter! Lots of meat and fat.

I think I'm going to do a laid back sway anyway. I want a girl but if I get another boy, my husband is more likely to agree to 4 babies. :)

Please don't get overly focused in on the numbers. At the beginning I didn't even WANT to make up numbers for that very reason. If you're moving in the direction of less, it still sways pink. :)

Have I shared this link?? It may help to just change where your fats are coming from even if you can't quite get them that low. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/39013-skinny-fats-pink-blue.html

Dreamingofpinkafter2blue
May 15th, 2015, 04:43 PM
I have read that! Honestly, I'm sure I can ask you more of these type of questions when I purchase my custom plan (soon). I'm kind of nervous about all of these artificial sweeteners and unhealthy oils. Like I'm scared of birth defects or issues with the baby. I'm wondering if I might be successful with still doing low(ER)fats but the healthy kinds.

atomic sagebrush
May 15th, 2015, 04:51 PM
Well, many people believe that vegetable based fats are also healthy and safe and you won't be doing them during pregnancy.

If I thought any of this would cause birth defects or issues with a baby I would not be doing this.

I am fine with you guys leaving out the artificial sweeteners. I only ever use the amounts advised by the FDA as safe DURING pregnancy, let alone before, (and have never recommended nor endorsed the dangerous levels on some other sway sites and in fact emphatically argue against their use at that level for the past 7 years) but if you're not into it, I don't think they even do anything. Leave them out. I got my 4th boy using them (who is a genius BTW!) and my girl without.

Dreamingofpinkafter2blue
May 15th, 2015, 05:23 PM
Ok, thanks! I have seen the other site and I agree that the le diet just seems so much healthier. Like people were drinking gallons of crystal light on the other site and it just made me nervous about swaying.

maidentomother
May 15th, 2015, 05:46 PM
Well, I personally think some oils are too unhealthy to consume ever (soy, canola, cottonseed) and avoid them entirely. Same with aspartame and saccharin. But I'm pretty extreme and also eat 90% organic. I don't think that those things cause birth defects, I just think they are less than optimal.

So what I do is just eat 'less healthy' but not outright unhealthy, in terms of what *I* consider healthy. For me that meant mostly eating sunflower oil with small amounts of olive oil & buttter/fat from dairy, in terms of my fat consumption. Much pinker than before but still healthy.

atomic sagebrush
May 16th, 2015, 04:33 PM
Yes there are tons of other options that are veg. based fats but not the ones with the bad rap, so go with one you feel comfy with instead. No one ever needs to ingest anything they don't like on LE Diet. REALLY. Pick a different option that you are comfy with.