Desperate for my girl

[netti02]

Hi All

Mum of 4 boys (9, 6, 19 months and 4 months) here in Sydney. I never monitored my cycles in the past in regards to swaying (i have had a feeling DTD was always around O day but i cannot confirm) and up until now I was certain shettles was a proven method. (Me and hubby were about to start the shettles method after AF in a few days). My DH works during the week early hours mon-fri and I am night shift over Thurs, Fri and Sat as well as keeping the household running in between. Living in Australia, gender selection is very frowned upon and access to both medical assistance or even medication assistance for this is literally out of the question as i have no genetic risks for testing and the expense of the testing itself. I am 31 and my DH is 33. Sticking to a diet will be difficult and finding time for regular exercise will also be hard but i will be certainly trying to make any changes i can. However all this new information has absolutely thrown me and i have no idea what to do. Im reluctant to take lots of supplements both for myself and DH. I already take a multivitamin, vitamin D and iron tablet. Any help and advice would be greatly appreciated. I don't really have anyone to talk to about it as there isn't many understanding people in my circle that get my need for a daughter. My DH however (after i had a very big cry) completely understands and is willing to try this 5th and sway in our favour. The only thing i have going for me is a clairvoyant has mentioned twice i would have a girl born in the beginning of the year but not to leave it too long after my last. Theres also the theory my husband has 'all boys' as hes one of 3 and theres been no girls for 3 generations [emoji12]

Thanks so much

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[nuthinbutpink]

HI there. If you want to consider one of our Personalized Plans, that will give you a specific plan with what we believe is the best way to try and conceive a girl naturally.

[covered in blue]

Welcome :). You don't need to take sups for pink swaying. I'm just taking folic acid and fiber. Is there a reason you are taking all the vitamins? They sway blue! Agree with NBP - a custom plan is a great idea as it takes all the guess work and reading out of it. Maybe just hold off the TTC for a few months while you get yourself sorted. All the best xx I hope you get your girl!

[netti02]

Ty!! I could likely hold off on the multivitamin. Im.taking the iron and vit d due to low levels so i will be on those for a while. How do i get one of these plans?

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[nuthinbutpink]

Here is the plan info-

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/new-site-info-and-navigational-help/25323-personalized-swaying-plans.html

[netti02]

Thanks. Is there any articles opposing Dr Shettles work or tearing it apart a little more as it did appear to indicate gender sway..I just find it strange that he had 75% success rates (of course these could be out by legitimacy of data) but had he actually tested the sperm to determine if they were X and Y in terms of the sizing difference or is it still to this day an assumption? I have read the article on the myth of timing on here and found it valuable in identifying the flaws of the shettles method and the lack of scientific evidence that supports it becuase how did he know they were X and Y? More to research before i start

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[atomic sagebrush]

I think you need to take a month and do some homework or consider a custom plan.

Prenatals and Vit. D have been strong blue swayers for us so I would cut down to 3x a week (2x for Vit. D) or wean off entirely. If you need iron for anemia, continue that at 3x a week. If you're taking it for preventative measures I would wean off entirely.

You don't need to take loads of supplements for TTC a girl, in fact most of us use very few supps on this site as opposed to the others.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks. Is there any articles opposing Dr Shettles work or tearing it apart a little more as it did appear to indicate gender sway..I just find it strange that he had 75% success rates (of course these could be out by legitimacy of data) but had he actually tested the sperm to determine if they were X and Y in terms of the sizing difference or is it still to this day an assumption? I have read the article on the myth of timing on here and found it valuable in identifying the flaws of the shettles method and the lack of scientific evidence that supports it becuase how did he know they were X and Y? More to research before i start

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The full essay is here. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/7691-trouble-timing.html

Shettles has been completely and totally debunked. He did not test X and Y sperm and in fact the technology did not exist to do so at that time. He looked through a microscope and saw what he thought were X and Y sperm but in fact were capacitated and uncapacitated sperm.

Timing is the number one studied aspect of gender swaying and other people who tried to test it, got completely different results and the most reliable studies show 50-50 boys and girls every day of the cycle.

[atomic sagebrush]

oh and we were just discussing "DH only makes boys" in this thread. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/ttc-girl/50200-paranoid-dh-only-make-boy-sperm.html

[maidentomother]

I would immediately drop the multivitamin, vitamin D and iron as those all sway boy. I'd start the LE diet ASAP (ease into if you have to) and if you can do the full 60 min of daily cardio I'd certainly add that as it's a strong sway tactiv. But diet is PARAMOUNT, and especially being on it for a full 12w before you start TTC. Shettles and timing don't work, they just sometimes seem to bc there's a 50% of the gender you want with most people. But a mother of 4 boys and only boys is not most people. You're obviously strongly preset for having boys and will need to do a fair bit to improve your odds of getting a girl.

Start the diet and if possible exercise and spend a month reading the big/important essays...LE Diet in a Nutshell, the Skinny on Fats, Trouble with Timing, the pH Pickle, Maternal Dominance, Trivers-Willard theory etc. In terms of BD, once you start TTC, you'll want to BD just once as soon as you get a true positive OPK, as one attempt sways pink. More attempts sways blue.

Welcome, you CAN get a girl, many moms of multiple boys have. Atomic herself had 4 boys before conceiving her daughter.

[pinkinthestars]

Hi netti02,
I feel your pain in Australia there is not much help I've also had trouble with trying to get scripts for clomid from my GP who just wont its annoying as some doctors will prescribe and whilst other just refer you to a specialist, Im going to be getting a customer sway plan in the next few weeks and getting myself ready to sway in a few months :)

[Am3a]

Thanks. Is there any articles opposing Dr Shettles work or tearing it apart a little more as it did appear to indicate gender sway..I just find it strange that he had 75% success rates (of course these could be out by legitimacy of data) but had he actually tested the sperm to determine if they were X and Y in terms of the sizing difference or is it still to this day an assumption? I have read the article on the myth of timing on here and found it valuable in identifying the flaws of the shettles method and the lack of scientific evidence that supports it becuase how did he know they were X and Y? More to research before i start

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Hi Netti02,

I completely believed in the Shettles Method, that was until I got 2 opposites using timing! When I conceived my 3rd son, I went through a Fertility Clinic to track my cycles to determine when to dtd. (Up to 6 blood tests and up to 2 internal ultrasounds a month) The clinic would call me and say I was in the "girl window" and then call me when to stop. To me, this was Shettles on steroids. Fool proof. After all I was paying crazy money to make sure it worked. It didn't.

I've just purchased a plan to try for a baby girl using diet and exercise to sway. Your body's condition at the time of conception just makes sense.

Hope that helps! Good luck!!! :-)

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks so much for sharing this experience Am3!! So many of us have 2,3,4 or more Shettles opposites, but few can actually say they used HT methods to be absolutely certain of that! Thank you!

[liny]

what is considered cardio ? will a fast walk be ok ? cause would running or biking build to much muscle ?

[atomic sagebrush]

Walking is fine and has gotten good results as have running and biking. Don't worry about building muscle if you're dieting and lostin at least a bit of weight.