After dtd questions

[Tmommy725]

Hi so this was our first "attempt" month... And I thought I would start first time day before solid smiley..Friday am I used 1/2 rephresh... And no other last min tactics.... So yesterday am we dtd... My husband was able to release and then within the hour we were able to have our attempt with the second release ... Which I am assuming should lower his count... But today I expected solid smiley and I got another blinking one... Is my attempt too far from o ? Or should I just let it be this month so I have the one attempt? Just concerned about the lower count and distance from date!
Also this am I started ( tmi) ewcm... A decent amount... I still be eliminating it at this point or no bc the deed is done? Debating if I should take Benadryl? Thanks

[Atsaukina1]

If you get solid by tomorrow that should still have you in 4 day territory. Do you usually get blinky one day and solid the next? If not by tomorrow I dtd when you get your solid as O could be 1-2 days from that. But I freaked last sway and did one good attempt and then another in the morning. Doh. Lol.

[Tmommy725]

Thanks ! So I used a wond fo a little bit ago and it was pretty much as dark as the control so maybe my surge is tonight instead of his am like anticipated . I'm gonna test again tonight but I think just leave the one attempt and see what happens ...last time I thought I was too far from o I had a last minute attempt and got my son ... So I leave it at this point , I just feel the odds aren't great with the frequent release and the rephresh and the time from o but who knows?! Thanks !!

[atomic sagebrush]

If you get to 4 days from your attempt and still have not ovulated, then have another attempt. Not till 4 days from last attempt though.

OR, what you can do is since it's your first month, you can just leave it where it lies and move forward to next month. Totally at your preference.

[atomic sagebrush]

If you get solid by tomorrow that should still have you in 4 day territory. Do you usually get blinky one day and solid the next? If not by tomorrow I dtd when you get your solid as O could be 1-2 days from that. But I freaked last sway and did one good attempt and then another in the morning. Doh. Lol.

We didn't know that one attempt even swayed then though Atsaukina. In my opinion you guys from those "good old days" are superheros because if not for those of you who did get opposites adding attempts, we would not even know that the one attempt swayed. ((((hugs))))

[Atsaukina1]

Oh I should've left it at 1 but wanted to get prego more than sway. I'm getting ready to go on vacation at mils house. If, big if, we were to have an attempt 1-2 days before solid smiley face, would that be a good attempt? Hoping timing doesn't work out like that but not sure I'd be able to get in a dtd when we get there. Just wondering if that's a good try or too far away stick to dtd on positive opk?

[atomic sagebrush]

Still in with a chance! Not highest chances, but a chance.

I would not use jellies or antihistamines or frequency pattern in that scenario tho unless you are really not wanting to get preggo.

[Tmommy725]

This attempt was a fail :(. Got solid smiley 2 days after o ... Even though wondfo was positive before that. I honestly think we also did too many things... I used rephresh day before attempt ( 1/2 tube) my husband did compressed frequent release and then the am of attempt released and we dtd almost immediately ... And I jumped and dumped . I think we did too many things to lower count. Now, onto the ne t month do I dtd every 4 days ? Which could put me in same territory (Or do I just do once at positive opk? I'm thinking of keeping the frequent

[XXforhubby]

In my opinion (Atomic will chime in), I would consider dropping the rephresh as these lubes really hinder conception. I would also consider dropping frequent release since it hasn't been getting the best results and really lowers sperm count, which also hinders conception.

I would hang onto jump and dump for a little bit yet until you see if you keep getting BFNs, then you may want to consider dropping that too.

Remember, what is really getting the best results is 12 weeks on a version of the LE diet, 1 hour of cardio (if you're doing it), and one attempt in your fertile window (either at first positive opk OR BDing unprotected every 4 days). All of the other stuff is just background noise.

FX and GL!!!


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[Atsaukina1]

I just had my own issue with damn advanced blinky smiley. It blinked 6 days before solid. Just use the regular digi and dtd at solid or wondos but that's too much guess work for me.

[Tmommy725]

Thanks ! I agree I can't really see if it I keep having fails what the issue is if I don't drop the rephresh. I totally think we did too many things - it's no wonder . But I'm debating do I do every 4 days or just wait for the pos opk.... Which should put me closer to anyway than I was month prior...
In june I found out I have a thyroid issue and while my function is fine at this point I have elevated antibodies - at he end of the day the goal is to have a healthy baby and pregnancy so a lot of the things we would add diet wise or take away supplement wise can actually have an adverse effect on my thyroid ( trying to be gluten and fairly dairy free) we were trying to use the things we could control to sway without affecting thyroid.
How do I bump for atomic? Would love her to weigh in ?!

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[Atsaukina1]

I would do positive opk over every 4. Not the advanced digi though. Also can still eat good, no dairy,gluten but focus on skipping breakfast and not snacking.

[Tmommy725]

Thanks! You know when you just need reassurance from someone .:)
I just bought the regular opk and am ditching those blinking smileys ... I'll still use wondfo to sorta watch a fade in . The blinking do nothing but make me crazy anyway when it's a didn't amount of days each month !

[atomic sagebrush]

This attempt was a fail :(. Got solid smiley 2 days after o ... Even though wondfo was positive before that. I honestly think we also did too many things... I used rephresh day before attempt ( 1/2 tube) my husband did compressed frequent release and then the am of attempt released and we dtd almost immediately ... And I jumped and dumped . I think we did too many things to lower count. Now, onto the ne t month do I dtd every 4 days ? Which could put me in same territory (Or do I just do once at positive opk? I'm thinking of keeping the frequent

EITHER BD every 4 days or DTD at pos OPK. Not both, not only on your second month!!!

If you got a solid smiley 2 days after O, you did not ovulate when you think you did.

Yes, you def. did too much. I would drop the frequency, it hasn't worked. The only reason why CFR seemed like it was doing anything was because one attempt is swaying so much. Never ever ever ever add attempts and keep frequency. We had a whole crop of ladies who did that and almost all got boys.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks ! I agree I can't really see if it I keep having fails what the issue is if I don't drop the rephresh. I totally think we did too many things - it's no wonder . But I'm debating do I do every 4 days or just wait for the pos opk.... Which should put me closer to anyway than I was month prior...
In june I found out I have a thyroid issue and while my function is fine at this point I have elevated antibodies - at he end of the day the goal is to have a healthy baby and pregnancy so a lot of the things we would add diet wise or take away supplement wise can actually have an adverse effect on my thyroid ( trying to be gluten and fairly dairy free) we were trying to use the things we could control to sway without affecting thyroid.
How do I bump for atomic? Would love her to weigh in ?!

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Well, I don't know what all supps you're on so can't comment on that, if you tell me then I can.

The diet should only HELP with thyroid stuff. Ask your doctor about iodine though, because some thyroid patients need to avoid it like the plague and others it can help.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks! You know when you just need reassurance from someone .:)
I just bought the regular opk and am ditching those blinking smileys ... I'll still use wondfo to sorta watch a fade in . The blinking do nothing but make me crazy anyway when it's a didn't amount of days each month !

What you can do is with the Wondfos, have attempt at positive OPK and then for the rest of the month DTD every 4 days. That way you will be covered in case of a false surge but will still have the one attempt at pos OPK being your most likely attempt.

[atomic sagebrush]

In my opinion (Atomic will chime in), I would consider dropping the rephresh as these lubes really hinder conception. I would also consider dropping frequent release since it hasn't been getting the best results and really lowers sperm count, which also hinders conception.

I would hang onto jump and dump for a little bit yet until you see if you keep getting BFNs, then you may want to consider dropping that too.

Remember, what is really getting the best results is 12 weeks on a version of the LE diet, 1 hour of cardio (if you're doing it), and one attempt in your fertile window (either at first positive opk OR BDing unprotected every 4 days). All of the other stuff is just background noise.

FX and GL!!!


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:agree: totally with this. thanks.

[Tmommy725]

Thank you thank you .!!! Definetly going to do one attempt at pos opk. I think I was confusing in my initial post I didn't o two days after but had an attempt on what should of been the night before my surge and I wound up with another day of blinking smileys .../so 2 days before the solid which also probably put me almost 4 days from o.... My thyroid dr wants me on d3 bc of a deficiency just 1000 a day but both her and obgyn suggested a prenatal with 150mg of iodine in it ... Originally I was just going to take folic acid (800) and the d until bfp - but I want to do what is healthiest ... The pregnant makes me a tad nervous being that I am swaying girl and I honestly have only been taking for 2 weeks so it's an easy stop. I'm thinking the d deficiency would sway pink as well - I have early hashimotos but Norma thyroid function at this point . I am avoiding no foods (since beginning of june) and limiting red meat but being that I am fairly gluten / wheat free I mostly rely on light protein fruits and veggies . But, I did eliminate aspartame and limiting caffeine by my Drs reco to improve thyroid function. because I am also taking a probiotic which has been great for my stomach so far ( been taking that since beginning of june ) I was all set with my "plan" and the thyroid issue came up at a routine physical - threw a curve ball but glad I figured it out as I know it could be detrimental to a pregnancy. I just need to have bloodwork as soon as a bfp.

[Tmommy725]

Not the pregnant above the prenatal

[Tmommy725]

Sorry for all these confusing typos ... On phone and auto correct is driving me mad!

[Atsaukina1]

How did they diagnose hashimoto?
My thyroid is large but so far thyroid test normal. Is their a specific test they did? Thanks

[atomic sagebrush]

take the prenatal 3 days a week. Compromise!

[Tmommy725]

My thyroid function has always been normal (btw .8 and 1.2) tsh but I have hypo symptoms . Last physical she ran more than tsh she ran antibodies and free t3 /4. The tpo antibodies were almost 900. Regular gp said it had no clinical significance and basically a precursor for hypo... I wouldn't accept that and made an appt with an endo who said we try to monitor it so that we catch early hypo before hashi destroys ur thyroid completely . Upon exam it is also irregular shaped and slightly enlarged which is classic of hashi. A lot of ppl get hashi and never get hypo but I am trying with diet and supplements to keep it at bay as best I can . Very likely I had this with my son and what I thought was crazy hormones post delivery was really post partum thyroiditis into hashi ... My endo feels that bc my other numbers are fine it wound impede on me getting preg or raising chance of miscarriage ( she said usually it's undiaggnosed hypo that can do that ) but I am glad I found out bc as soon as I get a bfp I need to have blood monitored every 4-6 weeks to watch my levels and medicate if necessary. She told me tons of ppl have hashi and have normal thyroid function and just remain undiagnosed... Insist upon a full panel when thyroid tests are done ESP if Ttc... All it is is checkingn off a different box ...
Thanks atomic ! What's the thought of doing the Zyrtec or Benadryl around o now that I'm dropping rephresh? I tend to have a lot of ewcm( sorry tmi) and now that I m going to be dtd closer to o I feel like I should maybe add if I'm dropping the frequency and rephresh ?

[Atsaukina1]

We're your t3-4 numbers normal and just antibodies off? My son had an ultrasound and tsh done because his is bigger than normal like mine. Guess I need to ask for the antibody test.

[atomic sagebrush]

antihistamine also getting disappointing results and people with thyroid are not supposed to take them except under dr. care. If you do want to use, do rescue only taking just one dose on day of attempt only.

Honestly, alcohol has been gettting superior results to antihistamine and so if that is ok for you, I'd go with alcohol instead of antihistamine

[Tmommy725]

Yes all normal besides antibodies ...
Alcohol is fine by me ! We're actually going to be in vacay just the two of us for what looks like the next attempt and few days surrounding so will be enjoying a couple anyway. Should I start like 5 days around o like antihistamine ? And I'm limiting it to aochol or white wine Correct?

[Atsaukina1]

Oh what a great sway. Just remember pull out or protection except for the one attempt:)

[atomic sagebrush]

I think the whole first 2 weeks of the cycle, any time is fine. MOst people want to drop it after O (although I ~personally~ think it's ok 1 drink a day after ovulation until BFP, but that is just my belief and everyone should do what THEY THINK is right)

1-2 drinks a day, whatever you prefer. I drank beer.

[Tmommy725]

Thanks ! Will post an update !!!

[Tmommy725]

Waiting to o! Cd 14 and usually pretty regular at 15/16 - this month I dropped the advanced opk so I am just using the digital ... I don't really know if it's "on its way" bc I have just got the empty circles so far ... I am using the wondfo as back up and so far vvfpl - using these 2x a day... I "should " ovulate tomorrow but if I was to go in based on a fade in - I prob won't o till Sunday.... Waiting patiently for my 1 -attempt! Can the wondfo be light and then hours later catch the surge ? Or so they progressively get darker by the day?
In addition I did the alcohol which wasn't so hard 1 drink each night and 2 last... And I dropped the prenatals and have only been taking folic acid . I didn't even do the prenatals part time in the past 2 weeks bc I figured only 2 weeks . My plan is to still use dh second release of the day if I can but make sure it's not immediate like last time and wait like 3 hours or so ... Going to try to do the hot bath/ shower as well - can't hurt!! Debating starting to use the digital 2x a day so nervous to miss the surge and trying to be relaxed . Will update in the tww

[atomic sagebrush]

yes it can go from totally neg to totally pos all of a sudden.

[Tmommy725]

Officially in the tww! Didn't go exactly as planned but nothing does ... Got first pos opk yesterday bc o seemed to e coming later so I started testing twice. Got this at about 3pm.... On digi and wondfo ... We just got back from vacation and it couldn't work out to have a good attempt yesterday. And actually had a couple failed ones ... This am I woke up at 5 and tested again and still a bright wondfo positive and digital positive. This would of normally been the first test for me if I tested 1x a day - and had our 1 attempt!... Missionary , no o , shallow etc... My only concern is am I too close to o ( even though I know timing doesn't sway ��) bc I am clearly somewhere in my surge and not at the very beginning ... But what's done is done ! In retrospect if this attempt doesn't work we may have to switch to every 4 days . Dh feels as though he either doesn't want to know he has to "perform" bc it's an attempt or have it just "happen" like it did last time - doesn't get that's not exactly always how it works but I have to be flexible too! Let the wait begin!

[atomic sagebrush]

good luck!

[Tmommy725]

So last night which is about 48 hours from first Pos opk I had ewcm and same thing this am . I did test with opk Sunday night( positive) Monday am ( positive and our one attempt) Monday night it went negative ( on digital and wondfo and continued to be negative yesterday. Is it possible to have ewcm post ovulation? Or did I just ovulate closer to 36-48 hours after first smiley? Guess my question is do I continue to test just in case I missed o or leave my one attempt( not gonna lie would like a break from testing ). I definetly had watery cm with our 1 attempt - is it possible to get ewcm 1-2 dpo?

[atomic sagebrush]

It is possible to get EWCM for a week before O and a few days after. Has happened to me on many occasions including the month I got my daughter (had CM for 2 or 3 days after that!)

[Dreamingofpinkafter2blue]

Honestly, the jellys and rephresh and all that made me feel stressed. Like I think it would have made my sway worse because of anxiety. This month was my first attempt. I just laid down for a few minutes after dtd and gently wiped some of it out when I got up. Something I do anyway. I don't know if I'm pg yet, though.

[atomic sagebrush]

Leave it out next time.

Some people feel like they have to at least try everything but it doesn't always mean you have to.

[Tmommy725]

So bummed Af reared her ugly head today! I had what I thought was ib yesterday, bc of color and consistency mixed with cm and then this today - I know a girl away takes longer but after 3 cycle I'm a little upset ... Sure I just need a day or two -
But I really don't think I can bank the whole thing on this one attempt .... With my son I got pregnant so easily but using boy frequency so I don't know if that's what I need to get pregnant or this is just gonna take longer ... Need some advice !

[atomic sagebrush]

I answered this in your other thread. :)