I took DH's pH ...

[zanacal]

I've never bothered taking DH's pH before but the opportunity arose (haha!) and, wowsers, it was a 10! This was the morning after he'd been drinking wine too which I guess lowers pH?!

Any ideas for something to lower his pH quickly and effectively? He's just started taking baby aspirin but so far I've only planned to give it to him 3 x times a week (same as me). He hates aspartame so I don't think I'll get much of that past him, except maybe on the evening before our attempt. Has anybody's DH taken cranberry supplements and how effective were they? I'm wondering if it's possible to take a higher dosage of them as opposed to the one low dosage aspirin which he can't have more of.

Thank you :D

[rainbowflower]

Wow that's high! I know its not always recommended but if its still that high around the attempt I'd be tempted to lower it manually externally and syringe it back in!

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[zanacal]

It briefly crossed my mind but I'm really not going down that route! We'll do what we can but I will probably stay away from even testing him again.

He has agreed to have a can of coke each day (not diet because he hates it so no aspartame but I believe coke is still very acidifying) and will take either cranberry or baby aspirin, whichever we decide is best for the job.

He's also agreed to no orange juice for a while but he's not happy about that! He's currently at Tesco looking for alternatives - I think he's going to try cranberry and buy some milkshake! He hasn't had orange juice for a couple of weeks though, so I don't think that's the culprit.

I hadn't planned on using anything after our attempt but perhaps I should add a touch of Aci-jel afterwards? At least I know there shouldn't be too much volume with all the frequent/recent releasing!

[Sassy]

Oh no Z!!!! I have no advice but hoping that it comes down a bit before your attempt....you've still got a few weeks before D-day. Will you use Rephresh? That way anything that passes through should have its Ph lowered too.

[zanacal]

We're planning our one attempt for the morning of O day so I wasn't going to use Rephresh, given the lack of cut-off! I'll have a think about it, I guess I could use both.

[swish]

Can you use refresh the day before ovulation?

[rainbowflower]

Swish yes you can, but if having just the one attempt it might be overkill

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[zanacal]

Also, we don't know how long the Rephresh takes to work and I'm not sure that it matters once the little fellas are on their way!

Do you ladies think I should get DH to take a baby aspirin every day? I was only going to give them to him 3 times a week (which is what I do) but perhaps we should both go up to every day at this point.

[Sassy]

Its certainly not going to hurt and may help so I'd say yes, give him the baby asprin daily.

[pinkdreams]

From what I remember reading the rephresh will lower the PH of everything that it comes in contact with for 3 days so I'm thinking it would lower the sperm PH (or at least that's what I'm hoping ;) I also found it interesting that on the UK website for rephresh it says it is safe to use while TTC but doesn't say so on the USA site. Reading that it was safe while TTC made me feel more comfortable using it in my sway instead of the Replens.

[rainbowflower]

this might be controversial, but I'm not sure that RepHresh will be much help regardless - I saw a study recently saying that all swimmers that could fertilise the egg are through that cervix between 15 and 30 mins... if RepHresh takes longer than that to lower pH perhaps the relevant swimmers will be long gone by the time the RepHresh works...

[fresas]

Holy whoa! I don't have any insight for you now, but I hope you can find something that will help. Whoa.

[zanacal]

Holy whoa! I don't have any insight for you now, but I hope you can find something that will help. Whoa.

Haha, your reaction made me giggle!

[zanacal]

this might be controversial, but I'm not sure that RepHresh will be much help regardless - I saw a study recently saying that all swimmers that could fertilise the egg are through that cervix between 15 and 30 mins... if RepHresh takes longer than that to lower pH perhaps the relevant swimmers will be long gone by the time the RepHresh works...

I'm sure I read on a study that most are already gone after something like 1.5 minutes! I think the Rephresh is helpful if you're going to DTD more than once, so if your pH rises because you've done it once and you're going to DTD the following day and you don't want to add any new gels or douche. Hopefully in that 24 hour period the Rephresh will have got your pH back down to 'normal' levels and also if you believe it's important to keep pH down between your cut-off, if you're doing one, and O. Like you though, I'm more concerned with making sure there's a blast of acidity right when the sperm first arrive on the scene, to lower sperm count, and I don't particularly care what my pH is for much longer than that!

So here's the plan, DH is going to have a can of coke (not diet but better than nothing!) each night with a double strength cranberry tablet and he's following this up with sugar free gum because he hates drinking/eating sugary things because he worries about his teeth (and that's as much aspartame as I can get past his lips!). He's also agreed to no orange juice leading up to our attempt. We're doing frequent release and we'll also make sure he's released within a few hours of our attempt so hopefully, even if his pH is on the high side, there won't actually be much semen. I'm also going to add a tiny bit of Aci-jel soon after we've DTD.

[pinkdreams]

:fx:Good luck!!! I think I may need to experiment with the rephresh, I'm going to get a "sample" from DH and add some rephresh to it and see how long it takes to lower PH if it does it at all. Now I'm curious :wink:

[rainbowflower]

Zana good point about the multiple attempts thing

Pink I'd be very interested to know your findings! When will you do the experiment?

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[pinkdreams]

I'll try for this evening, I'll post me findings LOl

[Sassy]

Oh Yes pinkdreams - let us know!

Hey guess what Z - we tested DH last night and........you guessed it 10!!!! So I frantically found this post again! He hasn't been on Cran during 2WW but I put him STRAIGHT back on it and added a baby asprin. Also told him to have an extra Diet Coke (caffeine free lol!) during the day. Do you think that's enough or should I double his Cran?

[Indira]

Oh, now I have to find out my DH´s too!
Have to find a way without him knowing though :think: he´ll freak out if I hand him a cup..

[purplepoet20]

My hubby had ph in the 8-9 range... one weekend when he wasn't taking the other pills yet he took 12hr sudafed for four days and his ph went down to 6.5. For each of our attemps he take saw palmetto 360mg, licorice root 200mg, 1000mg calcium, 250 mag, 16,800mg cramberry w/c in it, zyrtec in the am, benydrl in the pm, and sudafed 2x's a day. We are not going to use any gels or douches with the next try.

[zanacal]

Oh no sassy!

Wow purple, your DH is a good boy taking all his supps, lucky you :D

Don't panic Indira!

I took our combined pH last night (and I'm honestly going to stop taking pH very soon!) and it was about a 7, which isn't great but not hideous considering I hadn't used anything to lower pH 'down there' yet.

I was thinking about it and I reckon Sylk is a good addition to Aci-jel/Rephresh because it provides a shot of low pH right at the moment before the sperm arrive on the scene, and if you use it on DH then it's going to get spread about in all the nooks and crannies (if you see what I mean!). So, scrap what I said about adding Aci-jel after (which I wasn't completely comfortable with because I don't see what adding something right at the entrance is going to do deep inside!) - we'll still use Aci-jel before our attempt but we'll use Sylk as a lube and then I won't add anything after.

[rainbowflower]

pink how did the experiment go? ;)

[Sassy]

Remind me the Ph of Sylk? Given I won't be ....ahem....aroused as much, sylk might be a good option and help with those nooks and crannies!

[pinkdreams]

sorry, last night didn't work out :( I had forgotten to soak the PH tester I just received before the first use. It's ready to go now so I'll try tonight ;)

[atomic sagebrush]

I've never bothered taking DH's pH before but the opportunity arose (haha!) and, wowsers, it was a 10! This was the morning after he'd been drinking wine too which I guess lowers pH?!

Any ideas for something to lower his pH quickly and effectively? He's just started taking baby aspirin but so far I've only planned to give it to him 3 x times a week (same as me). He hates aspartame so I don't think I'll get much of that past him, except maybe on the evening before our attempt. Has anybody's DH taken cranberry supplements and how effective were they? I'm wondering if it's possible to take a higher dosage of them as opposed to the one low dosage aspirin which he can't have more of.

Thank you :D

Standard disclaimer - he may want to see a doctor to rule out infection. He doesn't need to disclose that his pH is high!!

Guys can tolerate baby aspirin at a higher dosage than ladies can, for the most part, so as long as he is tolerating it well (no bruising) he can safely take it every day. On IG, a lot of people take both cran and BA so if you were really concerned, you can give that a try. Personally I think it would be better to just use the RepHresh a little closer to when you DTD.

I strongly suspect the wine is what made his pH high. I don't think it's always as cut and dry as the websites make it out to be with pH. There's a lot of chemistry involved between when you eat/drink something and when it comes out.

[atomic sagebrush]

Wow that's high! I know its not always recommended but if its still that high around the attempt I'd be tempted to lower it manually externally and syringe it back in!

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Hey, ya gotta do what you gotta do, whether I "like" it or not. ;)

[atomic sagebrush]

It briefly crossed my mind but I'm really not going down that route! We'll do what we can but I will probably stay away from even testing him again.

He has agreed to have a can of coke each day (not diet because he hates it so no aspartame but I believe coke is still very acidifying) and will take either cranberry or baby aspirin, whichever we decide is best for the job.

He's also agreed to no orange juice for a while but he's not happy about that! He's currently at Tesco looking for alternatives - I think he's going to try cranberry and buy some milkshake! He hasn't had orange juice for a couple of weeks though, so I don't think that's the culprit.

I hadn't planned on using anything after our attempt but perhaps I should add a touch of Aci-jel afterwards? At least I know there shouldn't be too much volume with all the frequent/recent releasing!

That is up to you of course, but with the FR I think it might be overkill.

I am wondering now if the superhigh levels of releasing could make his pH go up?? Like, his body might be trying to make sure that the few sperm left behind have a better shot at surviving???

[atomic sagebrush]

this might be controversial, but I'm not sure that RepHresh will be much help regardless - I saw a study recently saying that all swimmers that could fertilise the egg are through that cervix between 15 and 30 mins... if RepHresh takes longer than that to lower pH perhaps the relevant swimmers will be long gone by the time the RepHresh works...

Yes but the pH of the general vicinity will be lower than it would be otherwise because of the RepHresh, even if it doesn't have hours to work on the semen pH. The sperm will have to swim out of the semen and into the lower-than-normal-pH CM until they make it up into the cervix where whoever is left, will be safe.

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm sure I read on a study that most are already gone after something like 1.5 minutes! I think the Rephresh is helpful if you're going to DTD more than once, so if your pH rises because you've done it once and you're going to DTD the following day and you don't want to add any new gels or douche. Hopefully in that 24 hour period the Rephresh will have got your pH back down to 'normal' levels and also if you believe it's important to keep pH down between your cut-off, if you're doing one, and O. Like you though, I'm more concerned with making sure there's a blast of acidity right when the sperm first arrive on the scene, to lower sperm count, and I don't particularly care what my pH is for much longer than that!

So here's the plan, DH is going to have a can of coke (not diet but better than nothing!) each night with a double strength cranberry tablet and he's following this up with sugar free gum because he hates drinking/eating sugary things because he worries about his teeth (and that's as much aspartame as I can get past his lips!). He's also agreed to no orange juice leading up to our attempt. We're doing frequent release and we'll also make sure he's released within a few hours of our attempt so hopefully, even if his pH is on the high side, there won't actually be much semen. I'm also going to add a tiny bit of Aci-jel soon after we've DTD.

I agree that the tiny Elvises and Priscillas have left the building very shortly after ejaculation...I've read that we don't even need to prop hips for longer than 5 minutes really. That is why it makes more sense to me to use the Acijel BEFORE BD rather than afterwards. Other than that, I think your plan is very sound.

I personally like RepHresh after a cutoff because the conventional swaying wisdom sets forth the claim that you must keep your pH low every second until the egg is fertilized because X sperm "love" low pH. I don't believe that to be the case becasue the sperm vacate the premises shortly after arrival and I do not believe that the pH in your vjj can infiltrate and overcome the much higher pH of the EWCM that your body is churning out. But I figure, if it makes people feel better, at least we know that the RepHresh keeps working for three days so people don't have to go nutty nutkins over checking ph every 5minutes.

[atomic sagebrush]

:fx:Good luck!!! I think I may need to experiment with the rephresh, I'm going to get a "sample" from DH and add some rephresh to it and see how long it takes to lower PH if it does it at all. Now I'm curious :wink:

Thanks for doing that!!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh Yes pinkdreams - let us know!

Hey guess what Z - we tested DH last night and........you guessed it 10!!!! So I frantically found this post again! He hasn't been on Cran during 2WW but I put him STRAIGHT back on it and added a baby asprin. Also told him to have an extra Diet Coke (caffeine free lol!) during the day. Do you think that's enough or should I double his Cran?

Curious Q - is he doing frequent release too?? I am thinking that frequent could cause pH to rise?????

[atomic sagebrush]

My hubby had ph in the 8-9 range... one weekend when he wasn't taking the other pills yet he took 12hr sudafed for four days and his ph went down to 6.5. For each of our attemps he take saw palmetto 360mg, licorice root 200mg, 1000mg calcium, 250 mag, 16,800mg cramberry w/c in it, zyrtec in the am, benydrl in the pm, and sudafed 2x's a day. We are not going to use any gels or douches with the next try.

Plus, Sudafed could possibly be more safe for DH to take than DW because the link to strokes was in young women, not men. I still don't love you guys taking it though.

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh no sassy!

Wow purple, your DH is a good boy taking all his supps, lucky you :D

Don't panic Indira!

I took our combined pH last night (and I'm honestly going to stop taking pH very soon!) and it was about a 7, which isn't great but not hideous considering I hadn't used anything to lower pH 'down there' yet.

I was thinking about it and I reckon Sylk is a good addition to Aci-jel/Rephresh because it provides a shot of low pH right at the moment before the sperm arrive on the scene, and if you use it on DH then it's going to get spread about in all the nooks and crannies (if you see what I mean!). So, scrap what I said about adding Aci-jel after (which I wasn't completely comfortable with because I don't see what adding something right at the entrance is going to do deep inside!) - we'll still use Aci-jel before our attempt but we'll use Sylk as a lube and then I won't add anything after.

I am on board with that plan! I hope it gives you some peace of mind.

I don't think combined pH with no jellies is bad AT ALL. In fact, it's really kinda awesome considering where his pH is.

[atomic sagebrush]

Remind me the Ph of Sylk? Given I won't be ....ahem....aroused as much, sylk might be a good option and help with those nooks and crannies!

It's between 4.5 and 4.7 depending. Plus, I know of people who got baby girls from Sylk!!!

http://www.sylk.com.au/whatis/faq.html

[zanacal]

Thanks Atomic. It had crossed my mind too that the crazy amount of releasing might have something to do with the high pH(he's taking my request to release frequently very seriously lol!). Interesting thought too about the wine - DH is drinking quite alot of it lately and I haven't suggested he shouldn't because I thought it would lower his pH. Maybe I'll just get him to lay off it the day of/night before our attempt just in case.

[pinkdreams]

Ok- mission accomplished :giggle: DH original PH was 8.12. What I did was lined the sides and bottom of 2 shot glasses with a small amount of both rephresh and replens (one in each glass). Not terrible scientific I know but it was the best I could come up with :wink: The results were very close to the same with both products. At 20 seconds the PH was 7.8 for rephresh and 7.9 for replens. At 1 minute they were both at about 6.65 then at 3 minutes they were both 6.5. the numbers dropped pretty rapidly initially, if anything the rephresh was a tad quicker, so if my experiment has any validity I would say they had an effect on the semen quite rapidly. I was impressed and encouraged!!

[zanacal]

Wow Pinkdreams, that's very cool! Now wash those shot glasses thoroughly :D

[pinkdreams]

:rofl:

[happyheart]

Ok- mission accomplished :giggle: DH original PH was 8.12. What I did was lined the sides and bottom of 2 shot glasses with a small amount of both rephresh and replens (one in each glass). Not terrible scientific I know but it was the best I could come up with :wink: The results were very close to the same with both products. At 20 seconds the PH was 7.8 for rephresh and 7.9 for replens. At 1 minute they were both at about 6.65 then at 3 minutes they were both 6.5. the numbers dropped pretty rapidly initially, if anything the rephresh was a tad quicker, so if my experiment has any validity I would say they had an effect on the semen quite rapidly. I was impressed and encouraged!!

How cool!!! :) :)

[Sassy]

ROFL - We all owe you a drink pinkdreams....from a different glass!!! That's very interesting! So I now need to get into my head a plan for which days I'll use Rephresh......anyone got a plan they'd like to share?

Atomic - No, DH hasn't been frequently releasing.....that I know of!

[zanacal]

Sassy, I started using Rephresh today. I kind of have it in mind that it's something I'm using anyway throughout my cycle to keep things down there tikketyboo rather than part of our actual attempt! I'll use it every 3 days and do my best not to use it too close to our attempt but I won't stress it. Today is cd7 so I'll use it on cd10 and cd13 (if I haven't ovulated yet) and hopefully that'll be it. Last month I O'd on cd15. When it comes to our attempt I'll use the Aci-jel and Sylk too.

[atomic sagebrush]

Ok- mission accomplished :giggle: DH original PH was 8.12. What I did was lined the sides and bottom of 2 shot glasses with a small amount of both rephresh and replens (one in each glass). Not terrible scientific I know but it was the best I could come up with :wink: The results were very close to the same with both products. At 20 seconds the PH was 7.8 for rephresh and 7.9 for replens. At 1 minute they were both at about 6.65 then at 3 minutes they were both 6.5. the numbers dropped pretty rapidly initially, if anything the rephresh was a tad quicker, so if my experiment has any validity I would say they had an effect on the semen quite rapidly. I was impressed and encouraged!!

Brilliant, that is SO VERY HELPFUL to all of us!!!

:bowdown:Hero of the Day Award!!!:bowdown:

[atomic sagebrush]

ROFL - We all owe you a drink pinkdreams....from a different glass!!! That's very interesting! So I now need to get into my head a plan for which days I'll use Rephresh......anyone got a plan they'd like to share?

Atomic - No, DH hasn't been frequently releasing.....that I know of!

According to the info from the company, every 3 days will keep pH down even with frequent BD. Has anyone else done any experimenting to verify 100% that this is true??

[pinkdreams]

I plan on also using it on a regular basis, particularly after reading on the UK version of the rephresh website that it is safe to use while TTC. Around DTD time I will use a full day before so it's all settled in ;) and I plan on still using Sylk as a lube during the attempt. I have not tested while BDing though. Too afraid to get preggers before I'm ready at the end of september.

[pinkdreams]

Brilliant, that is SO VERY HELPFUL to all of us!!!

:bowdown:Hero of the Day Award!!!:bowdown:

AWWWWW shucks :curtsey:

[fresas]

This is a very helpful thread. All of this rePhresh talk and Sylk talk is getting me more interested. I'm not opposed to using a syringe and adding things to the sperm to make it more acidic if necessary so these ideas here are super helpful.

Temping for me has been going terribly. My sleep schedule is so unusual so none of my readings have been accurate so far. The readings are all over the place, too. I am going to test my pH around ovulation (based on CM) and test DH's pH? from a condom. Does the condom affect the sperm pH at all?

Does anyone have any experience with lowering sperm pH based on the DH taking anti-depressants? The baby aspirin kind of worries me because my husband and I tend to be somewhat anemic so it may not be a good idea. I'm sorry, I promise I"m not trying to hijack the thread.

[atomic sagebrush]

This is a very helpful thread. All of this rePhresh talk and Sylk talk is getting me more interested. I'm not opposed to using a syringe and adding things to the sperm to make it more acidic if necessary so these ideas here are super helpful.

Temping for me has been going terribly. My sleep schedule is so unusual so none of my readings have been accurate so far. The readings are all over the place, too. I am going to test my pH around ovulation (based on CM) and test DH's pH? from a condom. Does the condom affect the sperm pH at all?

Does anyone have any experience with lowering sperm pH based on the DH taking anti-depressants? The baby aspirin kind of worries me because my husband and I tend to be somewhat anemic so it may not be a good idea. I'm sorry, I promise I"m not trying to hijack the thread.

I think it's way better to go with RepHresh/Sylk than fiddle with the sperm. I think it's easier and less stressful with less potential to raise testosterone levels. Plus, the RepHresh keeps the pH low for days afterwards while the lime juice doesn't.

If temping isn't going well, then don't do it. Although you might want to try temping vaginally and seeing if you get a better result.

To test DH's pH from a condom it has to be a sperm-safe condom (and they are expensive!!!) Better to have him give a sample in a cup if he's willing.

Is he already ON antidepressants?? I would NOT put him on antidepressants for pH! They have some vicious side effects (way beyond baby aspirin.) If you're concerned about baby aspirin, then don't take it, try just aspartame by itself. Don't do cran either because the side effects are the same as the baby aspirin.

[fresas]

Thanks, Atomic! He is already on an anti-depressant (mostly for anxiety) so I was thinking maybe that would just be an added benefit to be on one for a girl sway?

We will do a cup sample then. Thanks for sharing this idea.

He is definitely a very open minded husband as far as swaying goes. DH may want a DD more than I do.

All of my friends that were on SSRIs last year had girls (strange coincidence?), but I'm pretty sure their husbands had no supplements.

Pinkdreams, that is a very good idea!

[zanacal]

Just an update to say that I don't think the wine was the culprit because DH's pH is still the same! We're carrying on with the frequent release (I think it's very liberating for him to come down in the morning and proudly announce to me that he's just had a @~*&!) so I'm hoping there might be a reduction in volume by the time of our attempt and I'll probably JAD but I'm rather concerned that there's no chance on earth I'll get pregnant!

Any suggestions Atomic? I'm using Rephresh every 3 days and may use a little Aci-jel a few hours before our attempt (not if I've used Rephresh very recently) and will probably use a little Sylk for lubricant. Does acid actually kill sperm or just immobilise them for a while - at the levels of pH we're aiming for?!

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks, Atomic! He is already on an anti-depressant (mostly for anxiety) so I was thinking maybe that would just be an added benefit to be on one for a girl sway?

We will do a cup sample then. Thanks for sharing this idea.

He is definitely a very open minded husband as far as swaying goes. DH may want a DD more than I do.

All of my friends that were on SSRIs last year had girls (strange coincidence?), but I'm pretty sure their husbands had no supplements.

Pinkdreams, that is a very good idea!

Antidepressants in guys are believed to sway pink because they lower sperm count http://www.naturalnews.com/020871.html, but (not for you fresas, but others reading this thread) PLEASE do not put your husband on antidepressants just for swaying. If he needs antidepressants, of course he shoudl take them, but I just don't want anyone taking unneccesary medication that they do not need.

Fresas, out of curiosity was he on the anti-depressants when your other guys were conceived??? After reading how much they can lower sperm count, I am not sure you should do much in the way of jellies for swaying...it might reduce your odds of pregnancy too far if his sperm count is already very low. Here's another article about it. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1532236/Anti-depressants-can-make-men-infertile.html

[atomic sagebrush]

Just an update to say that I don't think the wine was the culprit because DH's pH is still the same! We're carrying on with the frequent release (I think it's very liberating for him to come down in the morning and proudly announce to me that he's just had a @~*&!) so I'm hoping there might be a reduction in volume by the time of our attempt and I'll probably JAD but I'm rather concerned that there's no chance on earth I'll get pregnant!

Any suggestions Atomic? I'm using Rephresh every 3 days and may use a little Aci-jel a few hours before our attempt (not if I've used Rephresh very recently) and will probably use a little Sylk for lubricant. Does acid actually kill sperm or just immobilise them for a while - at the levels of pH we're aiming for?!

I believe with every fiber of my being that acid in the pH of 4's and even 5's, kills at least SOME sperm (and probably quite a few). Tamara would say that it does not kill sperm, it simply makes Y sperm "go to sleep" and if the pH goes up, they will "wake up".

TBH I think that frequent release PLUS j and d PLUS RepHresh, Acijel, Sylk, and antihistamine (I'm assuming you're taking that) and spermicide if you decide to use that, is overkill. But, hey, give it a shot or two (if you feel so motivated, since you're doing so brilliantly on diet) and if it doesn't work you can rethink some of it.

[zanacal]

Yes, I agree Atomic, probably overkill - but I kind of feel as if I have to start out with too much and drop a bit if I don't get pregnant, especially since my discovery that DH is a very frequent releaser anyway and we have 3 boys! I also haven't got to a very low weight like some of the other ladies and I worry that I've actually made myself more fertile by getting my weight into a healthy range iykwim.

As it happens, I ovulated early this month so the deed is done :D DH released twice a day most days (once a day on a couple of occasions) then the day I got my +OPK was cd11 and having released twice that day we had our attempt very early the following day (so 3 times in 24 hours and about 7 hours since his last!). I had used Rephresh 2 days previously and I bunged some Aci-jel in before I went to bed (so 7 hours before). We didn't use Sylk because it was like 5am and dark and I couldn't be bothered but I did JAD. I usually get 2 days of +OPKs so I thought we'd be just in advance of O but I had a negative at 1pm the next day so I suspect we DTD practically on top of O - but I'm thinking that may not be a bad thing given the amount of other stuff we did (I also did antihistimines - didn't have loads of EWCM but did have some). I feel good to have an attempt under our belt! If we need to try again next month I think we'll drop the 3 times in 24 hours because DH did struggle to finish and just DTD on the night of the first +OPK.

[atomic sagebrush]

I was eyeing your ticker actually! Congrats on yoru first attempt and GOOD LUCK!!!!!!!

I totally agree that DTD close to O, in light of everything else you had going on, could only be a good thing. :agree:!!!!!

[fresas]

Atomic, he was not on an SSRI until this year.

Up until this year, the only medication he has put in his mouth were MVIs, calcium, and other supplements like that. I was taking a lot of benadryl with DS2, but that was about the only supplement for me in addition to MVI and calcium.

I will be trying to test DH's pH next cycle. I wish I could look at his sperm's motility, as that was mentioned in the Telegraph article, but we don't have a microscope. :D

[fresas]

zanacal, lots of healthy GIRL dust your way!

[zanacal]

Aww, thank you fresas, you too (although I'm not sure that I personally have any!!).

[atomic sagebrush]

Atomic, he was not on an SSRI until this year.

Up until this year, the only medication he has put in his mouth were MVIs, calcium, and other supplements like that. I was taking a lot of benadryl with DS2, but that was about the only supplement for me in addition to MVI and calcium.

I will be trying to test DH's pH next cycle. I wish I could look at his sperm's motility, as that was mentioned in the Telegraph article, but we don't have a microscope. :D

Gotcha! In that case, I think the medication is only going to help your sway.

TBH, I think it's mighty tough for the layman to tell anything about sperm via a microscope anyway. I know they do it on some other sites, but I tend to wonder if it's not at least in part "wishful thinking" that they see what they believe they are supposed to see. I wouldn't worry about it.