Getting my 2nd girl sway attempt together. Advice please! :)

[1moregirl]

Hi ladies. My first sway attempt ended in miscarrying at 10 weeks sadly. I have already been blessed with 2 boys and 1 little girl, yet I am a bit greedy and am wanting one last girl to complete our family (really want to give our little girl a sister as I grew up with sisters). With my last sway I followed the 7 sway factors from IG: timing (3-4 day cut off and O+12) and we had sex every 2nd or 3rd day as my DH is 45 so abstaining and FR were both not recommended; diet (I followed the diet loosely, since we have one girl already, but avoided red meat, and foods with potassium and salt and loads more dairy; hormones - drank lots of caffeine free coke that had aspartame in it and chewing gum with that in it constantly and peppermint tea; ions - lots of negative ions (rock salt lamp, nail polish on daily, fresh air, burning lavender oil daily, lavender soap, lots of hot showers and baths, etc); moon sign - I Oed in girl moon sign/phase soooo was very lucky that time and in new moon; PH - used SYLK lube and a lemon douche, my CM ph was around 4.5 and DH's was around 7-7.5, we dtd with me on top and no O for me; Minerals - calcium (1200mg) and magnesium (300mg) for both myself and DH; Supplements - cranberry (25,000mg) daily and Elevit prenatal multivitamin (I took this Elevit for all my pregnancies and managed to get one girl in there). I didn't use acijel as I found it raised my ph. Are there any recommendations you can give me for this next sway attempt? This next one will be my last since I am almost 44 years young and we already have 3 healthy children, plus one recent miscarriage that was traumatic. I am also considering the following which I have read elsewhere can help in the prevention of miscarriage: Vit E (400IU) - to strengthen outer shell of egg and help with implantation, Vit B12 (150mcg) - help folic acid work better, Zinc (50mg) - repairs any parts of egg that may have been damaged and also helps with implantation, and Baby Aspirin (81mg one per day) - helps with implantation and to maintain pregnancy. Thins the blood). And Folic Acid 2000mg and iron 30 -60mg.
Atomic Sagebrush and any other ladies - what do you think please and what else can I do to ensure an excellent girl sway, but most importantly, a successful pregnancy resulting in a sweet little bundle of joy of either gender? Thank you sooooo much in advance for reading my novel and taking the time to reply. :) xxoo

[1moregirl]

Also, I currently weigh around 56.2kg and am about 5'4" tall, so a bit of a shorty and slim. I could probably lose a bit of weight but I can't afford to lose too much. I prefer walking for exercise. Is this ok? And I know to skip breakfast and try not have snacks in between meals but I do need to eat little and often otherwise I feel sick and get shaky with low blood sugar, even though I'm not diabetic. My BMI is 21 and good.

[mlechinger]

SO you husband agreed to having another or are you going to do it behind his back?

[1moregirl]

Excuse me? What sort of a question is that? I'm not even going to dignify that with an answer. I'll just wait for Atomic Sagebrush to reply to my questions.

[sushikitty]

Uhhh I read this and didn't see anywhere her TTC behind her husbands back?...Am i missing something?

[1moregirl]

Sushikitty - I've ignored that last person so I won't be able to see any more of her rude comments. I admitted in another of my threads that I was a bit sneaky in conceiving my last baby (which ended in a miscarriage at 10 weeks) and I have since been inundated with bitchy and judgemental comments. I don't plan on doing it again and I figured at least I had the guts to admit it. I won't be going ahead with this next sway unless I have DH's approval and so I just wanted answers to my questions.

[atomic sagebrush]

SO you husband agreed to having another or are you going to do it behind his back?

I don't know what your deal is or where you came from, if you're a stalker or troll or what, but I'm going to let you know something - a lot of women out here in the real world are in a situation where our husbands agreed to things regarding and then broke THEIR promises or made such shitty decisions that we have had to postpone childbearing to an age where we don't have time to get to have the family we wanted. And then dudes can pull up and start over again with new women and new families and do so every day while we gals who let DH set the pace on having kids end up in menopause while our husbands go on to have as many kids as they wanted to well into their late 40's and 50's. If you don't relate to that - you're LUCKY.

[atomic sagebrush]

OK. I don't always do things the IG way as we discussed in another thread. I'm not going to take apart all the IG stuff, I don't have time, just know that many of hte things you did the last time are not what I recommend (which is totally at your discretion)

All that stuff on IG about "egg shells and repairs eggs" etc etc etc is nonsense. If you're worried about nutrients and conception and healthy pregnancy, take a prenatal 3x a week (or just daily if you prefer, that's totally fine). If you're taking your Elevit already, you DO NOT NEED AND SHOULD NOT TAKE extra vitamins on top of that. DO NOT x a billion take megadoses of Zinc and E because it's not healthy and not safe for you or a future pregnancy. More nutrients is not better, the dose makes the poison and both high dose zinc and Vit. E are unsafe. The extra iron is ok because you are probably low given your recent loss.

DO NOT mix cranberry and aspirin. You do not need a blood thinner after your last experience!! You're gonna bleed to death.

I would have you up folic to 2000-4000 range and if you can afford it, use folate instead of folic. This is one thing that the rules against megadoses don't apply because folic is just excreted in the urine and you need a constant supply of it.

Coq10 (ubiquinol best) 400-600 mg a day for both you and DH if you can get him to take it. This is recommended by RE's for egg quality.

A controversial idea would be to take DHEA - 25 mg a day may help boost odds of conception in mid 40's but it also probably sways strongly blue and so I'd hesitate before using it.

[atomic sagebrush]

Sushikitty - I've ignored that last person so I won't be able to see any more of her rude comments. I admitted in another of my threads that I was a bit sneaky in conceiving my last baby (which ended in a miscarriage at 10 weeks) and I have since been inundated with bitchy and judgemental comments. I don't plan on doing it again and I figured at least I had the guts to admit it. I won't be going ahead with this next sway unless I have DH's approval and so I just wanted answers to my questions.

Bitchy and judgemental comments are not allowed on here (this ain't IG, sistas) and won't be tolerated. I'll go find the thread now

[1moregirl]

Atomic Sagebrush - I do apologise if I have said anything I shouldn't have said. I tried to approach Mlechinger as diplomatically as possible. I am almost certain that she is a forum moderator from IG as I was getting exactly the same attitude from her on that website so maybe a stalker. If she has two girls and is wanting to sway for a boy then I would bet that is who it is. It is soooo true what you say about men delaying having babies with women and before we know it we are at menopause and the chances are gone. Or they get us pregnant at extremely young ages and abandon us. Happens all the time. Plus our 3rd was unplanned but DH was actually excited and has loved the child since he was born. Yes I was a bit sneaky this last 4th time but surely if we have sex without protection there is always going to be that chance of pregnancy so the men can't completely feign ignorance like they didn't know. And no...they don't have the pressure of time running out. No one should have the right to be sooo judgemental of another person's predicament because they really don't know the whole story. Thank you for your support Atomic Sagebrush.

[XXforhubby]

Imoregirl- I'm so sorry this person is giving you grief! I want to personally tell you that is NOT the norm around here! We all support each other and help each other, regardless of our situations or circumstances!

As a matter of fact, while TTCing this little guy (swayed girl), my DH pulled the plug several times. I had to resort to drastic measures until I found wearing something sexy did the trick for him to change his mind [emoji6]! No one judged me and no one should judge you! Only YOU know what your family and marriage can tolerate- no one else!

I just want to make it clear that this type of behavior is far from normal and please IGNORE it! Atomic and NBP will take care of things if it persists, trust me!!


DS1[emoji125]🏼, DS2[emoji577], DS3[emoji170][emoji577][emoji843][emoji602][emoji170] Jan. '16 I'll sway for a DD[emoji166][emoji171][emoji166] for my DH!!

[1moregirl]

Xxforhubby - thanks soooo much Hun. It's lovely to know there are some really sweet and supportive ladies on this website. I'm staying clear of IG from now on that's for sure. Are you expecting a little boy soon? How exciting! Good luck to you. I have a sister who had 3 little boys and then did a bit of a sway and got a little girl. Xx

[Butterflies buttercups]

This is a great friendly site - I've just bought my personalised plan from atomic and asked lots of questions already ! I always get a quick and honest response which is what I need to sway pink .. Ask as many as questions as u like we're not here to judge but to help [emoji5]️
Ps how lovely having two boys and a girl this is my dream for next year ! Hope u get ur dd to complete ur family too xxx


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[atomic sagebrush]

Atomic Sagebrush - I do apologise if I have said anything I shouldn't have said. I tried to approach Mlechinger as diplomatically as possible. I am almost certain that she is a forum moderator from IG as I was getting exactly the same attitude from her on that website so maybe a stalker. If she has two girls and is wanting to sway for a boy then I would bet that is who it is. It is soooo true what you say about men delaying having babies with women and before we know it we are at menopause and the chances are gone. Or they get us pregnant at extremely young ages and abandon us. Happens all the time. Plus our 3rd was unplanned but DH was actually excited and has loved the child since he was born. Yes I was a bit sneaky this last 4th time but surely if we have sex without protection there is always going to be that chance of pregnancy so the men can't completely feign ignorance like they didn't know. And no...they don't have the pressure of time running out. No one should have the right to be sooo judgemental of another person's predicament because they really don't know the whole story. Thank you for your support Atomic Sagebrush.

No I'm sorry I was referring to the other person, not you! Not at all. Was just quoting it because I thought the thread you referred to was on this site and not IG and I wanted you to be aware I was going to clean it up. :)

My thinking is, dudes, if ya show up and have sex without protection in a marital relationship, that's as good as permission. They know how it happens. Others may disagree, but I have seen too many women told, "next month, next year, next decade" only to end up 40 years old without a baby or a daughter or a son that they really, really wanted and now will never have. I find that a lot of men postpone as a dishonest way of saying no and to my way of thinking, that's just as bad if not worse than a gal encouraging unprotected sex and crossing her fingers for an oopsie pregnancy. :)

[1moregirl]

This is a great friendly site - I've just bought my personalised plan from atomic and asked lots of questions already ! I always get a quick and honest response which is what I need to sway pink .. Ask as many as questions as u like we're not here to judge but to help [emoji5]️
Ps how lovely having two boys and a girl this is my dream for next year ! Hope u get ur dd to complete ur family too xxx


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Thanks soooo much Butterflies buttercups! It's soooo comforting and reassuring to know there are lovely accepting and supportive ladies on this website. I really hope that you get your DD and I will send some of my pink dust your way. :)

[1moregirl]

Imoregirl- I'm so sorry this person is giving you grief! I want to personally tell you that is NOT the norm around here! We all support each other and help each other, regardless of our situations or circumstances!

As a matter of fact, while TTCing this little guy (swayed girl), my DH pulled the plug several times. I had to resort to drastic measures until I found wearing something sexy did the trick for him to change his mind [emoji6]! No one judged me and no one should judge you! Only YOU know what your family and marriage can tolerate- no one else!

I just want to make it clear that this type of behavior is far from normal and please IGNORE it! Atomic and NBP will take care of things if it persists, trust me!!


DS1[emoji125]��, DS2[emoji577], DS3[emoji170][emoji577][emoji843][emoji602][emoji170] Jan. '16 I'll sway for a DD[emoji166][emoji171][emoji166] for my DH!!

Thanks soooo much for your support and kind words Xxforhubby. Perhaps I will put on something sexy and give him a glass of wine beforehand. Hehehe! He suffers from PE sometimes so maybe that will play in my favour as well. ;) I really hope that you get your DD in the near future. You and I could well be making our attempts together as I was thinking of Jan 16 as well. Have you got your sway planned already or still working on it? What do you do for your sway? My last girl sway was based on IG stuff like calcium, magnesium and cranberry, etc but obv had the miscarriage so it didn't work out and I'll never know if it was a successful sway or not as far as gender goes (I didn't want to know anyway as obviously a loss is a loss of a baby and the gender is the least important thing).

[Butterflies buttercups]

Your welcome [emoji4]
Il be ttc in Feb so on my Le diet now and doing 4 days cardio building up to 6 days next month!
Thank u for the pink dust I definitely need it ![emoji175]
Xxx


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[Dreamingofpinkafter2blue]

My husband wants a 3rd and he hates temping and ovulation and all the pressure (and he rolls his eyes at swaying) but we are married and I have my period and he knows we are having unprotected sex. How does he think we got our last two? I had a chemical pregnancy last cycle and did not tell him just because I know it would worry him and stress him out.

[XXforhubby]

Thanks soooo much for your support and kind words Xxforhubby. Perhaps I will put on something sexy and give him a glass of wine beforehand. Hehehe! He suffers from PE sometimes so maybe that will play in my favour as well. ;) I really hope that you get your DD in the near future. You and I could well be making our attempts together as I was thinking of Jan 16 as well. Have you got your sway planned already or still working on it? What do you do for your sway? My last girl sway was based on IG stuff like calcium, magnesium and cranberry, etc but obv had the miscarriage so it didn't work out and I'll never know if it was a successful sway or not as far as gender goes (I didn't want to know anyway as obviously a loss is a loss of a baby and the gender is the least important thing).

I'll be roughly 2mo PP in Jan. '16 so I will be doing things to decrease conception until I'm about 4mo PP. I'm only going to do the LE diet, exercise (I'll start cardio at 3mo PP if the weather has gotten better here by then), one attempt via BDing every 4-5 days, fiber (once he is 4-5mo), folic acid, and 1-3 alcoholic drinks per week with a meal (once he is 5-6 mo or when he starts solids), and I'll still be BFing. That's it. I may take Vitex to bring on AF if it doesn't come back early like with my other two boys.

I can't do opks or temp. It makes me to obsessive/controlling and keeps swaying in the forefront of my mind. I can't do that this time! I'm not too worried about it actually. After having done the LE diet before, I'll only need to track things for about a week, and I'll be right back to where I was. Laid back, what will be will be is my motto this time around. I actually don't think I can get pregnant BFing so while I will give my sway my all- I don't think I'll be able to get pregnant. We've never tried this early before. Time will tell!

Right now, and even then, I'll be looking to snuggle with my sweet DS3!! I can't wait to meet him! There is nothing like a newborn baby [emoji4]!!

FX and GL to you!!


DS1[emoji125]🏼, DS2[emoji577], DS3[emoji170][emoji577][emoji843][emoji602][emoji170] Jan. '16 I'll sway for a DD[emoji166][emoji171][emoji166] for my DH!!

[1moregirl]

So Xxforhubby - the only supp you'll be taking is the folic acid? How much do you plan on taking Hun? I'm thinking that's maybe all I would take too next time. :)

[XXforhubby]

I'll be taking 2000 mcg since I am 36. It's what my OB recommends.


DS1[emoji125]🏼, DS2[emoji577], DS3[emoji170][emoji577][emoji843][emoji602][emoji170] Jan. '16 I'll sway for a DD[emoji166][emoji171][emoji166] for my DH!!

[1moregirl]

Xxforhubby - good on you. So will I if I go through with another attempt. I've been up and down lately and the prospect of another pregnancy and experiencing another miscarriage gets me quite anxious. I think it's also because my immune system has been low and I've been stuck with this throat virus I can't get rid of.

[atomic sagebrush]

Try Honey and fresh pineapple for your throat. Works way better than actual medicine.

(see our advice isn't just limited to swaying around here ;))

[XXforhubby]

Try Honey and fresh pineapple for your throat. Works way better than actual medicine.

(see our advice isn't just limited to swaying around here ;))

This always works the best for me!! I've been doing this for years, thanks to my grandma!


DS1[emoji125]🏼, DS2[emoji577], DS3[emoji170][emoji577][emoji843][emoji602][emoji170] Jan. '16 I'll sway for a DD[emoji166][emoji171][emoji166] for my DH!!

[1moregirl]

Will give it a go. Thanks. My friend had her baby on Saturday. I was very happy for her but sad for myself at the same time knowing I won't be experiencing the joy of childbirth again probably. She had a boy after two girls and two days prior to her having it I had dreamt that she would have a boy. Two weeks before my miscarriage I woke up disturbed after I dreamt of a blood-soaked pad. I pushed it aside and ignored it at the time and 2 weeks later I have the miscarriage. It's not the first time I've had dreams or feelings that have actually happened. I think I am also on such a downer because DH and I are sooooo on different pages. I am still sad about the miscarriage, whereas he has just swept in under the carpet and moved on. Plus I am wanting to make one last try in a few months time and I know he will still be adamant about not wanting to try again. So I'm stuck between a rock and a very hard place really. The only thing I can think of is to just start the diet and taking my sups and pray for some sort of miracle. I just find it soo frustrating that he was excited when I got pregnant and sad when I miscarried, yet again he says no for trying one last time for a 4th (because he believes he already lacks patience with the 3 we already have). He is being a selfish pig and won't even meet me halfway with any sore of compromise. I have even offered my approval for his vasectomy after this last pregnancy, amongst other things, and still his answer is no.

[atomic sagebrush]

Guys don't get it. It isn't the same for them as it is for us and expecting it to be is akin to expecting a lion to become a vegetarian.

My heart breaks for you 1moregirl because I so totally understand what you're going through. I really, truly think that those of us in this generation (in our 40's right now) were sold a bill of goods about postponing childbearing and being "good girls playing by the marriage rules". Expecting that our partners wanted the same things we did out of life because that was always how it was portrayed in the media - the men who seemed so happy and delighted when their wives got pregnant - I know they do exist but they are certainly few and far between, it seems. But we truly believed that if we just waited for "the bigger house, till I finish school, till the kids are older, till the bills are paid" then it would all happen because we played by the rules and sacrificed in the short term for our husband's desires. Especially in Generation X. :/ What I think we have to accept is that the "truth" that was told to us when we were girls and young women in the 70's and 80's isn't what the actual reality is. Honestly, thank goodness that we do have our families because there are so many of our compatriots the same age who hung on waiting for a guy just to marry them in the first place and it never happened. :/

[1moregirl]

Yes Atomic. That is soooo true. Bloody men! I just received my lost 10 week scan in the mail from the hospital today from when we found out the baby had died in utero. I've been staring at it and staring at it. It really really looked like a baby shape at that stage. Has made me feel sooooo sad all over again. I keep wondering if I did something wrong or if I did get pregnant again would the same thing happen again? And I feel soooo angry. If my eggs are becoming too old and dodgy then why did I have to fall pregnant at all and then get to nearly the end of the first trimester only to lose it? I know....it could've been worse, but it still feels pretty bad. I would post a copy of my scan pic if I could.27993

[atomic sagebrush]

I know it seems so very unfair. I'm sorry. I don't have the answers and no one ever will, at least not in our lifetime.

Hugest ((((hugs))))....

[Boyzmommy]

Oh my God atomic u r such an inspiring speaker. I love u all ladies[emoji8]


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