DH has very low testosterone :(

[Nann3r]

DH did a blood test the other day and the results came back. Normal is between 350 and 850.. 350 being dangerously low..

His is at 150...

I'm devastated.. Now I feel like I will never get my boy.. No matter how hard a sway. His T levels are off the charts low.. That just screams girl babies for the rest of my life.. [emoji22]

[nuthinbutpink]

How is his weight?

Zinc, DHEA, vitamin D, plenty of rest and limit sugar.

[Nann3r]

240 and 6'0".. He's def overweight. He's not HUGE.. But he's not small. He WORST habit is rest.. He sleeps 4 hours a night avg... I cannot get him to sleep more. He hates it and claims he only needs 4 hours.. I'm destined to have girls.. I feel like I have no hope anymore..

[covered in blue]

I think Boysway had this problem if I remember right. They did end up with a boy too. Stalk her threads :)

[nuthinbutpink]

His BMI is 32.5. He is in the obese category. Once you are overweight, your hormones can start to look like the opposite gender. That goes both ways, FYI.

The sleep is really bad too. Something is not right if he is only sleeping 4 hours per night. Have you had a full blood work up on him? It's not healthy. Between the weight and the sleep, I am certain those are contributing to the testosterone levels. At least you know so you can try to get him to do something about it! Swaying is about changing everything- diet and lifestyle. He needs to get healthy too. That BMI is already pretty high and for longevity, I would focus on getting him to lose some weight and get healthy.

[nuthinbutpink]

Have him read this-
Obesity: Unhealthy and unmanly - Harvard Health (http://www.health.harvard.edu/mens-health/obesity-unhealthy-and-unmanly)

[Nann3r]

Yeah he's been working on it lately especially. He actually got his bodyfat% down to 18% last year when we conceived DD. And actually he's lost 9 lbs in the last month just from having a healthier diet. But yes the sleep is the most frustrating part..

[atomic sagebrush]

We honestly don't even KNOW that T levels are a dealbreaker though. It's never been proven and it's FOR SURE never been proven in men.

The sleep and his weight do make things a little harder (and ironically, when he was at super low body fat that can be problematic too - either extreme is not good for TTC a boy.) but your doctor is going to be able to treat this medically to some extent. Clomid for men is actually a very good treatment for low T in guys.

What I want you to do is think positively about this. It IS something that we can fix and control to some extent and I agree with Nuthin that the sleep issue may be complicated

Now, I just happened to stop by "the other site" today and your name caught my eye. I read their responses and one thing that I 110% do not want you to do is to give him tribulus. That is NOT GOING TO HELP and in fact has made men actually grow breasts because their estrogen goes way up. The last thing in the world you want is for him to have higher estrogen. And studies have not consistently shown tribulus to do anything for testosterone anyway.

Bananas and watermelon and herbs aren't going to help you here, what we need is a healthier lifestyle (and little changes add up to big results - you don't need to get him to change everything overnight - little things like going for a walk after dinner a few times a week and having steak and a salad instead of steak and potatoes kind of thing make all the difference in the world). I agree with the zinc, Vit. D, DHEA if that is okayed by his doc, a good all purpose men's vitamin (don't exceed 100% DRV zinc no matter what) and I would have him ask about Clomid.

[Nann3r]

Yeah before we do anything, he's going to see a doctor. To see what they recommend. On his lab work they mention hypogonadal.. Which freaks me out /: but I suppose I shouldn't worry if I don't know anything yet. And you're right not many studies have been done on if it truly affect X and Y in any way. I'm just starting to realize maybe I'm not ready to get pregnant. I don't know if I can handle having another girl. I mean I will. I'll force myself to. And I'll love her.. But people always say before trying again you HAVE to come to terms with possibly having the opposite gender than what you swayed for.. I think I thought I was ready, but after this silly episode in life, maybe I'm not actually ready. (Unless I'm already pg then the deed is done and this child was meant to be regardless!) but if I'm not, I'm going to have to do some serious rethinking and soul searching to find peace with whatever God blesses me with. I'm just not there yet :( wondering if I should just take a break from this all. The anxiety is horrible daily. Ugh.

I'm trying to remain positive. I really am. I'm just terrible at it! Obviously... I appreciate everyone's kind words and help though. It seriously has calmed me down and helped me think logically

[TaytumJ]

Just popped in to say hang in there! I know how you feel fellow boy swaying mama. I've definitely come to terms about this bean and if it ends up a girl, but when we were trying and right after my BFP I was obsessed with thinking it's a boy. My DH is about in the same boat as yours - he weighs around 230 and is 6'0". I don't know his T levels but when we find out if this bean is a boy or not hopefully there's some extra hope for you! ❤️

[Nann3r]

Yes keep me posted:) hearing about other people's fun pregnancies- whether the sway worked or not- is always fun for me and lifts my spirits. Maybe I should go to announcements boards to lift my spirits!

[zodiac]

...don't exceed 100% DRV zinc no matter what...

What is the DRV of Zinc for DH?

In the UK, most Zinc supps are sold at 15mg however I noticed in the US Zinc supps seem to be sold in 50mg pills, almost as standard?


And the more obvious question... why do not exceed 100% no matter what?

[atomic sagebrush]

It's good to come to terms with the possibility of an opposite but I suspect in reality very few of us are really truly TOTALLY okay with having an opposite. :) Obviously it's great to do the hard work on your gender desire and try to get it under control but I just don't want you to expect too much from yourself.

This may actually be a bit of a blessing in disguise as it gives you some time to get your head right. You are still in the hard part with your (totally adorbs BTW) little girl and it may to some extent be aggravating your overall emotional state for now. Having a little baby is TOUGH! they get so much more fun once they're over about 18 months.

[atomic sagebrush]

What is the DRV of Zinc for DH?

In the UK, most Zinc supps are sold at 15mg however I noticed in the US Zinc supps seem to be sold in 50mg pills, almost as standard?


And the more obvious question... why do not exceed 100% no matter what?

Great question Zodiac, thanks for asking.

The 50 mg zinc pills that are sold in the US are meant mainly for short term use to help make colds get better faster. They aren't meant to be used day in and day out as a supplement. For men, the recommended amount of zinc is 15-22 mg. Men who are having fertility challenges may need to up this to 25 or even 30 (altho I personally prefer sticking with 15-22 range). Zinc, being a mineral can accumulate in your system and 50 mg over time can actually build up to harmful levels. It also is notorious for causing stomach upset and diarrhea (as anyone who has ever tried taking it for a cold can testify to - it often ends up doing nothing for your cold and then also gives ya the poopz). So it is best to just stick with the 100% recommendation and additionally eat good food to make sure he's getting enough both supplemental and naturally.