so confused and frustrated!

[dannikins]

the more i read the more confused i get,
some say avoid caffine, others say drink coke, some say weight loss and cardio, others say dont excercise , some say hubby needs to diet , some say hubby dosent need to diet, some say cut off, others say BD right through, it just keeps on going....
im so confused its starting to stress me out, and im really doubting that i will ever get a girl!:worry:

im all ready to start, i think i have everything i need, just waiting for my ph strips to arrive, but i dont want to start and then find out i have done something totally wrong, this is too important too mess up.

can someone please try and level my head.
the more it stresses me out, the more i feel like just giving up, and i havent even started yet!

[rainbowflower]

you can do the diet alone, it's not essential to have your DH do it
if you're not comfortable with having caffeine, avoid the cola (you don't NEED cola for your sway)
either exercises not at all or do lots of cardio - either of them, you choose which fits your lifestyle best and both of them sway

HTH

[Zivic-Bubac]

Dannikins - do I feel anger in your post? :wink: LOL! Try not to stress so much, you know it's bad for pink sway as it raises testosterone.

Try feeling desperate and/or overwhelmed ( my most used feelings lol!) which is great for pink :agree:

I agree with rainbow, you don't need your DH on diet if he's not willing to cooperate, like mine for example :mad: Maybe some supps, I tell my DH: these are excellent for your heart huni (FA - I'm not lying, it says so on the bottle :wink:) or this will help you to lose weight (l-Carnitine) Important note: I'm swaying for boy, so don't get
confused !!!!!

If you feel caffeine will harm your sway, don't drink Coke but it is so ultimately unhealthy and acidifying = excellent for pink, it would be a shame not to use it. Here's the thread about Coke http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?2144-Coke-good-or-bad-for-any-sway

Amount of caffeine in Coke is VERY small compared to cup of coffee so Imho, no worries there.

I believe the important thing for pink sway is to feel exhausted lol, so you can do cardio to achieve that or rather do nothing. I didn't sway for my girls, just had girlie lifestyle and felt constantly exhausted and drained out to excercise on top of that. Plus I was thin.

This site has loads and loads of ultimately great info and it takes time to absorb them and find a shelf for each info. It took me quite a while until I realized how my sway should look like, but now I'm 100% sure I'm doing it right :pray:

[Zivic-Bubac]

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[Sassy]

I agree with the other girls - ultimately, you need to take it all in and work out what is going to work best for YOU! None of us have exactly the same sway. We all choose the parts that we are most comfortable with and implement them. There is conflicting info so use what makes the most sense to you and what you think you are capable of doing. I know that douching is not something I'm capable of or comfortable with so I'm going with rePhresh and sylk instead. I know I can't maintain 6 days of intense cardio a week, so I'm doing none! HTH.

Good luck!

[zanacal]

I agree with the other girls. We all feel overwhelmed when we first read the information because there's so much of it and because there's no 'prescription' for getting a girl! All we can do is absorb it all, decide what makes most sense to us and what we can/want to do. You'll find after a while that you don't have to think too hard about it and a plan will formulate in your mind that you're happy with. When are you planning to start ttc?

[swish]

Hi!
I agree too, you WILL feel less overwhelmed as you absorb all the information.
As far as dietbwas concerned, I started off excluding things I wasn't sure about but added them again as I got more confident/lots of time passed!! Coke is one thing you could do that with or just opt for caffeine free!
Dh doing diet is a controversial one and you will get different opinions, I guess it depends how willing dh is, mine could never do the girl diet soi didn't even ask him, he does however take liquorice root and has stopped eating red meat.
Timing depends on how quickly you want to get pregnant!
Gl and I hope together we can help you get to grips with it!

[dannikins]

thanks, you are all great!, and zivic, you cracked me up....lol overwhelmed is a much better word...:)

my youngest has his first bithday this saturday, so im planning on getting organised to ttc in a few months, but i know the diet and everything takes time so im starting all that the start of my next cycle, i am just waiting for my pH strips to arrive in the mail.
i have been charting my cycles ever since bub was born, so i know roughly whats going on there, even though its not very regular, which also concerns me if we are having a cut off point etc.

my cycles are anywhere from 29-35 days long, i ovulate anywhere from day 16-21 and my LP ranges from 13-18 days, i also only have one fallopian tube, my right one was removed with an ectopic pregnancy 2 years ago, so im guessing that will add a bit of confusion...lol.

i am concerned about hubbys "help"..., he eats loads of salt, and coffee, im sure he will be ok with the liquorice root, as long as i hand it to him when he supposed to have it, and as far as the red meat thing goes, he eats what ever i cook..... (which sucks since hes a chef)
he also like to have a beer after work, will that affect pink?

the caffine thing for me isnt a problem, i dont drink coffee anyway unless i have a migrane , then the caffine helps.
and i was planning on losing some weight before TTC anyway so its a good excuse to stick to it.

sorry if im rambling, the kids have been sick the last few weeks and i havent been getting much sleep, so my brain is a bit fuzzy.

and thank you all for your help:)

[zanacal]

I hope everyone is well soon and that your DS has a great birthday - try to enjoy it and not to worry too much about your sway yet, you have plenty of time for that and we'll all hold your hand :D

[swish]

My dh has beer almost every night and there's no way I could stop him, his way of relaxing! I'm not worrying about it at all

[atomic sagebrush]

the more i read the more confused i get,
some say avoid caffine, others say drink coke, some say weight loss and cardio, others say dont excercise , some say hubby needs to diet , some say hubby dosent need to diet, some say cut off, others say BD right through, it just keeps on going....
im so confused its starting to stress me out, and im really doubting that i will ever get a girl!:worry:

im all ready to start, i think i have everything i need, just waiting for my ph strips to arrive, but i dont want to start and then find out i have done something totally wrong, this is too important too mess up.

can someone please try and level my head.
the more it stresses me out, the more i feel like just giving up, and i havent even started yet!

The problem is, there is a lot of science out there and a lot of old wives tales and those things don't always agree!! Even the science doesn't always agree, but all we can do is investigate and find out what we can, until better info is available. This website has a different focus than some other sites out there to be sure, in that we try to look at everything to see if holds up to scrutiny while others will simply say "do this or do that" without taking a hard look to see if they're even supported by hard science or not. But that's good because you have options available to you that you may not otherwise have had..

PLEASE don't stress about swaying. The good news is, most of us WILL conceive an opposite in our lifetime even if we have several of one gender, even if we do nothing to sway. Just look at the Duggars - they've had long runs of boys and long runs of girls (longer than most of us have!!) and Michelle can obviously make both genders! It's just that for some of us, those long runs seem to come at the beginning of having children (and none of us want to have 20 kids trying to get an opposite, haha)

To answer your specific questions:

1) The people who say "avoid caffeine" are saying that because of an idea that caffiene makes you leach large amounts of calcium from your body, but science doesn't support that idea. Here's a good explanation as to why. http://www.nestle-family.com/nutrition-for-all/english/Do-you-lose-Calcium-when-you-drink-coffee_682132.aspx

We're not even totally sure that calcium even sways in the way that some people claim that it does. Here's an essay I wrote about the "calcium conundrum". http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?610-the-calcium-conundrum-CONTROVERSIAL

I personally think it's fine to drink a Coke now and then. It's really kinda silly to think that of all the 3 billion females currently living on Planet Earth, that none of their moms drank an occasional coke, tea, or cup of coffee!! Or even a daily one, as most people do.

2)Losing at least a little weight is always desirable when you want a girl.

3) The exercise thing is actually two halves of the same advice (and this info originally came from me when I was a Swaying Forum Leader on IG, so you are getting the straight truth from the person who originally researched this.) Your goal is to shrink your muscle mass and the exercise is just a way to do that. Exercise in and of itself doesn't sway, it's what your body does as a result of exercise. So, there are two ways to shrink your muscles. One way is to exercise a lot, 60-70 minutes a day, 6-7 days a week, while losing at least some weight and preferably eating less protein. The other way is to not exercise at all (day-to-day activities are fine, of course), also while losing some weight and eating less protein. Both ways work.

Moderate exercise, and even intense exercise while gaining weight and eating extra protein, will grow your muscle and sway blue. Weight lifting, because it tends to grow your muscles, is also better for blue although it is possible to lift weights while losing weight/eating less protein and shrink your muscles, it's not as easy or effective as cardio is and so we tend to stick with weightlifting more for blue and cardio more for pink.

The idea that "cardio sways pink" that is reported on IG is an attempt to simplify that advice but I personally think it has only confused the issue.

4)Whether or not your husband does the diet is complicated because it's very unlikely that men's and women's bodies work in the same way. A woman losing weight sways pink, but it may not sway pink in men because their body chemistry is completely different. I think it's best if men simply stay the weight they are at and not change anything. Whether or not they choose to follow the mineral recommendations of some diets, again, is up to you. The simple fact is that some (many) people's husbands will not sway, and I think it's best to focus on what you can control for your sway, rather than what you can't.

5)Other websites believe that timing matters and so they insist that you not BD anywhere near O for a girl. However, timing has been studied extensively and it's been found time and again that there is no clear pattern with timing. In fact, some studies have even seemed to show that more girls were conceived on O Day.

If you are doing a lot of other things to sway, such as douching, lime tampon, jellies, reducing sperm count via abstinence, taking antihistamines and dieting to dry up your CM, the simple fact is that to do all these things and then to rely on one attempt, either a cutoff or O+12, is going to make it extremely difficult to get pregnant. I've been observing swayers for almost 5 years now and I really do not believe ANYONE has ever gotten pg with a girl doing all these things to the letter as they are told to. Most swayers try everything for a few months and then start to drop things. Usually the hardest things go first, and diet is the hardest thing for people to stick with.

Since diet has what I believe to be the soundest evidence from the most reputable sources (by far), I think it's far better to put your effort into diet and then get pregnant quickly, rather than stringing TTC out month after month in an attempt to succeed at timing, when that has absolutely no reliable scientific evidence backing it up (because it has not been verified as true.) So I think that BDing to maximize odds of pregnancy while swaying, makes so much more sense than trying to include everything and ending up not getting pg for many months, during which you will end up losing too much weight!!

Plus, the very act of trying to do timing has the potential to raise testosterone levels and end up inadvertently swaying blue!!!

[atomic sagebrush]

thanks, you are all great!, and zivic, you cracked me up....lol overwhelmed is a much better word...:)

my youngest has his first bithday this saturday, so im planning on getting organised to ttc in a few months, but i know the diet and everything takes time so im starting all that the start of my next cycle, i am just waiting for my pH strips to arrive in the mail.
i have been charting my cycles ever since bub was born, so i know roughly whats going on there, even though its not very regular, which also concerns me if we are having a cut off point etc.

my cycles are anywhere from 29-35 days long, i ovulate anywhere from day 16-21 and my LP ranges from 13-18 days, i also only have one fallopian tube, my right one was removed with an ectopic pregnancy 2 years ago, so im guessing that will add a bit of confusion...lol.

i am concerned about hubbys "help"..., he eats loads of salt, and coffee, im sure he will be ok with the liquorice root, as long as i hand it to him when he supposed to have it, and as far as the red meat thing goes, he eats what ever i cook..... (which sucks since hes a chef)
he also like to have a beer after work, will that affect pink?

the caffine thing for me isnt a problem, i dont drink coffee anyway unless i have a migrane , then the caffine helps.
and i was planning on losing some weight before TTC anyway so its a good excuse to stick to it.

sorry if im rambling, the kids have been sick the last few weeks and i havent been getting much sleep, so my brain is a bit fuzzy.

and thank you all for your help:)

I would not worry one bit about hubbies that eat salt, drink coffee, and beer, because pretty much ALL of them do, and yet look around - most families have both boys and girls.

The licorice root will help, so if he's willing to take it, you might want to include it. PS - male chefs tend to have a lot of daughters anyway due to the heat of the kitchen and sometimes carrying a bit of extra weight (extra weight tends to sway pink in men) so I think you're set up for a great sway regardless of what diet he chooses to follow.

[atomic sagebrush]

I agree with the other girls. We all feel overwhelmed when we first read the information because there's so much of it and because there's no 'prescription' for getting a girl! All we can do is absorb it all, decide what makes most sense to us and what we can/want to do. You'll find after a while that you don't have to think too hard about it and a plan will formulate in your mind that you're happy with. When are you planning to start ttc?

I totally agree! The idea of the "one size fits all", cookie cutter sway is simply inaccurate. Different people need different sways. Please check out this essay I wrote, it might help you form up your plan. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?3147-Beyond-the-cookie-cutter-Personalizing-your-sway

[dannikins]

thank you SOOOOOOOOOO much!
that has simplified things a great deal.:)
i might have to try and fatten hubby up...lol. hes not the typical chef, hes actually really skinny.

[atomic sagebrush]

thank you SOOOOOOOOOO much!
that has simplified things a great deal.:)
i might have to try and fatten hubby up...lol. hes not the typical chef, hes actually really skinny.

It's still ok, because the heat of the kitchen will still be swaying for you (plus, I know that a lot of chefs smoke, which also sways pink.)

[Hobbermittens]

Try feeling desperate and/or overwhelmed ( my most used feelings lol!) which is great for pink :agree:



I am confused about how this is different from stressed? I feel this way as a part of stress. Hmmm.

[dannikins]

smoking sways pink? thats great!
so it looks like it must be my fault we keep having boys then?
im too bloody healthy and well balanced...lol

[atomic sagebrush]

I am confused about how this is different from stressed? I feel this way as a part of stress. Hmmm.

Some people kinda "like" stress and either seek it out or tackle it head on when it appears. Others get easily overwhelmed and shut down in the face of stress and stop trying all together. This is just a very general attitude that may be related to increases in testosterone. But it's NOT a make or break thing and there are plenty of times where we all feel very overwhelmed and yet rise above it and people with a wide array of attitudes and personality types have kids of both genders. I wouldn't give it a second of concern or worry because it's next to impossible to pinpoint and probably IS impossible to change by willpower.

PS - If I hadn't had times in my life where I felt both ways, I prob. wouldn't understand the principle, but I have def. had times where I felt very able to handle challenges and then other times where even something very small became an overwhelming problem for me to deal with.

[atomic sagebrush]

smoking sways pink? thats great!
so it looks like it must be my fault we keep having boys then?
im too bloody healthy and well balanced...lol

It is actually great though because at least you have that working for you!!

There are plenty of smokers out there with boys! There are no magic bullets unfortunately.

[Hobbermittens]

Others get easily overwhelmed and shut down in the face of stress and stop trying all together.

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yep, this is me, 100%. Can't deal. "Calgon, take me away". Damn, is that why I have 2 girls? But like you said, I CAN'T change this, so I am just going to try not to get stressed if I can help it.

[atomic sagebrush]

yep, this is me, 100%. Can't deal. "Calgon, take me away". Damn, is that why I have 2 girls? But like you said, I CAN'T change this, so I am just going to try not to get stressed if I can help it.

I don't know Hobber, I wish I did. :/

I DO think those things can be controlled to some extent via diet though.

[zanacal]

I think a gang of tired little boys (or girls no doubt!) at the school gate are good for created feelings of being overwhelmed - you should have seen me last Thursday after DS2 had run away for the five thousandth time, then pushed his brother (who was also screaming and arching his back because he wanted to run away too!) in his pushchair into somebody's ankles - and then when I took DS3 out of his pushchair and asked for a cuddle because I was in such a flap and was all sweaty and he headbutted me!!

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm sorry, why were you watching my children that day?!? How did they get across the ocean so quick?? :)

[zanacal]

:D

[dannikins]

haha, sounds like me, do NOT go shopping with all 4 of my boys.
you will tear ALL your hair out....lol

[atomic sagebrush]

I don't know how you guys with 3 and 4 little ones do it. I only have 2 little boys (my other two boys are MUCH older) and I STILL don't like to go shopping by myself with the little boys. o.O God bless ya!!

[zanacal]

I pretty much don't go shopping with the boys - I go to the supermarket at 9pm or at weekends or when I only have one child in tow. Any other type of shopping I definitely do on my own or I get delivered to my door!! If this baby's a girl do you think she'll like shopping or is that just a fantasty?!

[atomic sagebrush]

I loved to go shopping with my mom, even just for groceries! I still love grocery shopping, it's one of my fave jobs.

[melissalynay]

I am so glad you posted this. I have three boys and my husband has said I can try one more time since he knows how important this is to me. He has even agreed to do anything to help sway as far a diet and supps go. He has even agreed to abstain for 14 days. This is really hard for a man who can't even take a shower without relieving himself...I love that man he is very supportive. We seem to be very fertile as we have tried with all three on ovulation day only to fall pregnant the first try. So any advice given will be very welcomed. I seem to have a very boy diet so even though I can't commit to the diet 100% I will try to cut down and make myself go on the poor girl diet. I truly hope it works this time as this is it. Good luck to you.

[atomic sagebrush]

Melissa, 14 days abstain, what a trooper!!!

I do want to point out that if you do a lot of things to sway (like long abstaining, altering pH, etc) you may NEED to DTD fairly close to O in order to get pg at all. If you can't get pg, you have no chances of your DG.

Any changes you make in a more girl-friendly direction (such as just cutting back on calories, protein, and fat intake, will sway pink for you. It isn't all or nothing regarding diet, that's only with the "mineral" diets like the French Gender Diet and IG Diets. My Low-Everything Diet can be followed loosely and you will still get some benefits from it.

[queen-of-harts]

Dh and I take all six boys shopping and to restaraunts more often than not and they are well behaved 90% of the time.If we do have issues its usually them being too loud for my liking or play fighting by squeezing someones neck with their arm.We have always demanded good behavior or we go home or dad takes them to the truck and so i think thats what keeps them inline since they know we will follow through with our threats.We always get compliments on how well behaved our kids are because im sure the sight of seeing a family with 6 boys come into a restaraunt must seem scary to people lol I think my whole personality sways blue since its my goal when we are in public that my kids are behaving and respectable and when they veer off that path that i have in my mind it really stresses me out and my whole body feels prickly if that makes sense.I see moms all the time and their kids are running around in the store aisle chasing each other,laughing loudly and touching the store items and the mom is just all mellow looking at what she is shopping for.Sometimes i wish i could be like that but there is no chance lol

[swish]

Me too, queen, I wish I was more mellow about that sort of stuff but it really stresses me out, I'm always worrying about what everyone else thinks!

[zanacal]

Me too! One Christmas I took the two eldest boys to choose a new decoration for the tree because I thought it would be a lovely thing to do but it was hideous! I can't remember exactly what happened, I think they just got over excited and wanted to run around and also wanted to touch all the delicate decorations (of course they did!). That episode made me realise that it was unfair of me to take them places for my benefit without considering how being there would make them feel and how that might make them behave. Likewise, we don't often take them out for a meal and when we do we try to go to somewhere there are lots of other children or where we can sit outside - eating out is what DH and I enjoy doing together, it's not actually something a 1 year old, 4 year old and 6 year old with energy to burn want to do. They'd much rather take a picnic to a field where it's ok for them to be kids and that's much more relaxing and enjoyable for us too!

[DoulaMama]

OMG some of these posts made me LOL! I take my kids grocery shopping about once per week but only because I HAVE to. I try to tell myself that it helps getting them used to shopping with me....LOL But I really hate it. My 5yo wants to ride the cart the whole time and climb stuff, my 3yo wants to stand in the front of the cart and try to kill himself numerous times before we leave, and thank goodness I wear the little one on my back....he's the only one that stays out of trouble! Most people look at me like I have 3 heads:) Who on Earth brings 3 boys to a grocery store!? LOL I DO! I'll most likely pack the whole lot to the store once this new little one comes along. I'm not really looking forward to it but I have to say that my 5.5yo is getting increasingly easy as the months go by....Thank GOD! Oh and I homeschool...so I never get a chance to shop by myself unless it's 9pm or a weekend when I can pawn my kids off on my mom or husband! LOL Oh the joy!!

[zanacal]

Funnily enough, my boys actually like food shopping and are usually well behaved in there! The only problem at the moment is DS3 who doesn't understand that he can't immediately eat everything I put in the trolley and because he can't explain himself with words he screams instead! I had an awful experience in a supermarket a few months ago when DS3 was screaming and I had given up with him and was just going very fast and ignoring him so we could get out there (they were not running wild - DS3 and DS2 were in the trolley and DS1 was walking nicely beside me). A mean old man shouted at my 18 month old to 'stop screaming' and I was so incredibly cross that I marched the boys over and asked him to show me how it was done. When I told him he was only 18 months old and didn't understand he told me I obviously wasn't doing good enough job bringing him up and I was inflicting him on everybody else by taking him to a supermarket! I was so upset I can't tell you. There were some lovely, lovely people in the shop who came to my rescue and tried their best to make me feel better though.

[swish]

Oh z, that's horrible, good for you for sticking up for yourself, I think I would have abandoned my shopping even though you were in the right, some people have no consideration for others!

[zanacal]

It was a long time before I went back to Waitrose swish :D

[swish]

I had a woman be rude to me in waitrose when ds1 was a baby, must be the customers that shop there!!

[zanacal]

I reckon so, perhaps I should defect to Lidl ... :D

I've actually been meaning to try Lidl for ages so I'm not even joking!!

[swish]

I'm a tescos gal!

[zanacal]

Me too, I should probably just get my employer to pay them all my money directly ..

[DoulaMama]

Ugh! How rude Z! I always say stuff back to the rude people as well:) I can't help it! Just recently I had a woman tell me that she hopes that I don't have any more kids as it'll just "end up being boy #4". I was so shocked I had this stupid look on my face for a good 10 seconds. I then said, "Well it's really none of your business whether or not we have a fourth child, and I'll be praying for a boy as I would be mortified to have a daughter that ended up being anything like you, lady". She shut up. I went red I was so mad. Most people are fine and mind their own business....and then the select few shock the pants off you.
Oh and I agree with the above statement. I think that 1/4 of DH's money goes to food.... sigh.

[dannikins]

t i have in my mind it really stresses me out and my whole body feels prickly if that makes sense.I see moms all the time and their kids are running around in the store aisle chasing each other,laughing loudly and touching the store items and the mom is just all mellow looking at what she is shopping for.Sometimes i wish i could be like that but there is no chance lol

if i dont do the mellow thing i think i would kill them....lol,,
but seriously they are good most of the time , but they seem to rev each other up, so one will start and the rest will follow, next thing you know, there are 3 all going in different directions not one of them listening to anything i say, touching things they shouldnt, screaming and laughing at each other, which is why i dont take them all unless there is no other option, better to avoid the chance.


and LMAO at DoulaMama, you sound like me.
only a few weeks ago we were shopping and my eldest decided it would be fun to do a homer simpson on the 5 year old, had his hands around his throat and was squeezing,
i slapped him on the arm and told him off, about how dangerous and stupid it was. this old bag next to me gave me the filthiest look and was full on glaring at me shaking her head because i slapped him.
i was like, would you prefer i let him choke him to death, she shook her head and pulled a stupid face, then i said, you probably would actually , you look like you would eat your own young.
she pfft at me and stormed off in the other direction.

[zanacal]

I'm laughing at that first paragraph dannikins, that's exactly what happens with my 3!!

[XXdreaming]

Lmao I had something similiar happen to me dannikins lol I was trying to find something on the shelf and my 3yr old starts screaming and I turn and see my almost 2yr old(sitting in the shopping cart) with a wad of his older brothers hair(who was walking by the shopping cart) and he was bashing his head up against the shopping cart lol I slapped his hand and told him no and he hurt brother its not funny, checked for damage on my 3yr old he seemed fine(did get a slight bruise on cheek that showed up later) and then I get a lecture from an old granny how I shouldn't of slapped him it was just good old fashion boy rough housing, umm okay that would make me parent of the yr just let my almost 2yr old bash his older brothers head in the shopping cart until he gets a black eye or nose bleed before I call it off?? It really amazes me how people can't mind their own business, andi get the comment a lot about #5 just being another boy, I am an idiot to believe I can actually have a girl blah blah lol I try not to let it bother me

[maybeoneday]

I have to be honest, in that i let my kids eat stuff in the supermarket then put it through the till half eaten! It is amazing how understanding Tesco are to half eaten brioche and a pack of 6 apple juices going through with 2 empty!!!

I think we all do an amazing job with kids especially while shopping and sometimes people forget what it is like to have more than one child to deal with in a shopping trolley! Do what you can ladies to get it all done and screw anyone else with an opinon on your parenting!!

[queen-of-harts]

I have pooped open food for my little ones more than once to help keep them quiet.as long as your paying i say go for it.Once when i was about 6 months pregnant with my 5th child and i started feeling very sick and dizzy in Walmart and i knew i was going to pass out soon so i popped open a full size bottle of apple juice and started chugging it,my dh was coming up the aisle and said out loud "what the heck are you doing?" lmao desperate times call for desperate measures.

[dannikins]

lol, yep i have done that before, open a packet of strawberries or donuts....lol if it keeps them happy and quiet its well worth the funny looks people give you..

[zanacal]

I have pooped open food for my little ones more than once to help keep them quiet.as long as your paying i say go for it.Once when i was about 6 months pregnant with my 5th child and i started feeling very sick and dizzy in Walmart and i knew i was going to pass out soon so i popped open a full size bottle of apple juice and started chugging it,my dh was coming up the aisle and said out loud "what the heck are you doing?" lmao desperate times call for desperate measures.

That's so funny queen-of-harts!

I give mine food in the supermarket too - but if DS3 had his own way he'd try everything I put in the trolley! He takes after me :D

[rainbowflower]

personally I wouldn't open anything I hadn't bought (you never know if for some reason your card might be refused at the till - I've had mine refused before when the bank locked down my card thinking it might have been stolen after some "unusual" transactions on it) - if I know my DS is likely to be peckish when out grocery shopping I make sure I've bought a snack from home in my handbag that he can have instead.

[zanacal]

I try not to rainbow - but when you have a nearly 2 year old emmiting a piercing scream at the top of his lungs as well as a 4 year old and a 6 year old arguing with each other and/or asking for every other thing on the shelf and having a tantrum when you say no - it's easy to be worn down ... it's also very easy to forget to be organised and bring your own snack when it takes you half an hour just to persuade everybody to put coats and shoes on and get put into their car seats in the first place. Standards they drop lol!

[dannikins]

Zanacal, you worded that perfectly....:)

[rainbowflower]

lol you're probably right ;) I'm just still very cautious since having my card cancelled at the till that once (which wasn't even my fault - just the bank being safety conscious). I guess if you were planning on paying with cash it wouldn't be an issue!

[swish]

I always let mine have a bit of this and that from the trolley if I have to take both of them, never thought about not being able to pay at the last minute!!!!