There's hope for me yet

[1moregirl]

So yesterday DH and I had a lovely civil conversation and at this stage he has agreed to ONE attempt which will be next cycle or the one after, depending on how I go getting rid of this bowel infection that I have. I was sooooo excited, so I guess I will just have to cross my fingers and toes and hope that I can still conceive really easily. The only thing is the Bd every 4 days will be difficult for us because we have recently been more active than that and it has really helped us become closer as a couple. Is every second day an option when girl swaying or does it have to be every 3-4 days? Also, does anyone know what Flagyl sways? It is an antibiotic. I won't be on it when trying to conceive so perhaps it won't interfere with the sway? Thanks. :)

[sweetdream]

I would say use protection every other day

[1moregirl]

Yes I will thanks. And will prob be every 3 days. For some reason he has limited to just one try so will obviously just have to give it that one try at the first positive OPK I get and see what happens. If we do it next month though that means that I will only have been on the ubiquinol for one month. Does that matter or should we wait til March?

[LinzNicuRN]

What is ubiquinol?


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[1moregirl]

Ubiquinol is a form of Coq10. It is recommended by many REs in the US to help improve egg quality. I haven't seen a fertility specialist here in Australia so I don't know if they recommend it here or not. But because I'm 44 I'll try anything. For older Mums Atomic recommends the ubiquinol and higher levels of folic acid. Ubiquinol is the active form of Coq10 and has superior absorption and higher bioavailability than the other forms of Coq10 such as ubiquinone and ubidecarenone. It's main role is to help support healthy energ synthesis and to act as a highly efficient antioxidant. I'm just taking one capsule per day so that's 100mg. And I'm taking 2000mcg folic acid.

[essnce629]

Hmm, glad DH has agreed to one attempt! That's better than nothing! I even tried to get my DH to agree to that but nope! With your age though and with DH only agreeing to one TTC cycle I would probably BD every 3 days from the time AF ends PLUS an additional attempt a +opk. You really need to make the most of the one cycle you get to try. And make sure you're not doing anything to hinder conception-- no Rephresh, licorice root, antihistamines, etc. I'd probably use a small amount of Preseed too (about 1 inch using the applicator, that's what I do), prop hips after and lay on belly, and avoid alcohol and caffeine in the TWW to prevent anything from hindering implantation. Eat pineapple every day in the TWW too as that is supposed to help implantation. Good luck! Is your DH taking Olive Leaf extract capsules? I would have him do that to improve sperm quality.

[1moregirl]

Thankyou soooo much for your reply Essnce. The thing that will make the attempt difficult though is that DH has only agreed to BD one time without a condom (not several times in one cycle) - just the one time in one cycle. I guess that makes me lucky, but only a bit lucky. Lol! I don't know what his reasoning is behind this, maybe just to shut me up. Perhaps he thinks thwt with just the one attempt I have no chance of falling pregnant? Who knows. I guess I can't look a gift horse in the mouth, as the saying goes. I will still try to talk him around to the idea of BD without a condom every 3 days for just one cycle though. Thankyou soooo much for all your advice. I will do everything you have suggested Hun and I greatly appreciate you taking the time to reply. :) The only things I am taking are 100g of ubiquinol and 2000mcg folic acid per day. Should I up any of these do you think or just leave them as they are? I already have the preseed so all good there. And I won't be taking anything extra, except Elevit prenatal every second day or 3 times a week until BFP. I don't know if DH will agree to Olive leaf extract but he might if I buy it for him and say I read online that it helps with BD performance. ;) hehe! How much pineapple should I eat per day in the 2ww do you know? In your opinion Esnce - how long should we take the ubiquinol and olive least extract before attempt? I'm on Flagyl at the moment for a bowel infection. Thanks again. :)

[signingmommyfor3]

Eat the pineapple with the core. Buy it and take off the "skin" and cut in half then each half in 3 sections. Eat each section starting between 1dpo and 3dpo until you've eaten 5 or all 6 sections and that's it. If you continue to eat it further on the. It could actually hinder. The only cycle I ate the pineapple I got my BFP.

[1moregirl]

Eat the pineapple with the core. Buy it and take off the "skin" and cut in half then each half in 3 sections. Eat each section starting between 1dpo and 3dpo until you've eaten 5 or all 6 sections and that's it. If you continue to eat it further on the. It could actually hinder. The only cycle I ate the pineapple I got my BFP.

So I would eat one of the six sections of pineapple per day? So from 1 DPO until 6 DPO? Have I understood correctly? From what point or what DPO should you not eat pineapple? Thanks soooo much for your info too by the way. Greatly appreciated. :)

[signingmommyfor3]

Yes you read correctly, I was reading and dr said not to eat it past 7dpo

[1moregirl]

Thanks so much Signingmommyfor3 - I am definitely going to try that one and I wish you all the best for your pregnancy and hope you have a sticky pink bundle in there cooking away. Lol! Do you have your sway recorded in that section? I'd love to take a look. Take care. :)

[signingmommyfor3]

I do have it there but I forgot to put down about the pineapple. I am hoping "she" stick too. Going for private scan this Thur to hopefully get some good news and back to dr for another scan next Thur.

[1moregirl]

That's great that you are getting some extra scans done. Is that just for peace of mind that everything's ok Hun or for some other reason? Good luck for Thrusdays scan. :)

[signingmommyfor3]

Had an ER scare a week and half ago when I went in for stomach pain (turned out to be several infections and a cyst) and in the process they did an ultrasound and I only had a yolk sac and was measuring 6w0d when I was 7w0d so they took my betas and had the Ob take them Monday. Then a scan at the Ob on last Thur said there was 2 yolk sacs, measuring still 6w0d and still no fetal poles. Betas were really high and increasing: 50000-72000-110000. Still concerned about there being no babies but the dr wanted me to wait 2 weeks.

[1moregirl]

Oh wow signingmommyfor3 - so you could have twins in there by the sounds of things. I'll keep you in my thoughts and prayers that everything is ok with your babies. The HCg levels going up sounds great Hun - if they are measuring a bit behind maybe it's because there's two of them or you conceived a bit later than you thought? Just try to stay relaxed and take good care of yourself (easier said than done I know when you have kiddies already). You don't always see a fetal pole at 6 week either Hun. I had one with fetal pole and heartbeat at 6 week scan but I miscarried anyway. I'm sure all will be fine for you. But please let us know how you get on and I'll be wishing you all the best. :) xx

[atomic sagebrush]

The Flagyl will be out of your system by then.

Here's the thing. EVery 2 days may be a little blue friendly BUT "if daddy ain't happy, ain't nobody happy". We are playing a long game here and I think it behooves you not to disrupt his bliss and keep that closeness going so I would have you be like bunnies and just do whatever it takes to keep him with the program. People get girls all the time with different BD patterns and I think it's a good idea to go with the flow here.

It is also a good idea in terms of the Goldie the Golden Egg notion, if you can get pregnant sooner then that's a good idea too because as I keep going on and on about so annoyingly, time is not our friend.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thankyou soooo much for your reply Essnce. The thing that will make the attempt difficult though is that DH has only agreed to BD one time without a condom (not several times in one cycle) - just the one time in one cycle. I guess that makes me lucky, but only a bit lucky. Lol! I don't know what his reasoning is behind this, maybe just to shut me up. Perhaps he thinks thwt with just the one attempt I have no chance of falling pregnant? Who knows. I guess I can't look a gift horse in the mouth, as the saying goes. I will still try to talk him around to the idea of BD without a condom every 3 days for just one cycle though. Thankyou soooo much for all your advice. I will do everything you have suggested Hun and I greatly appreciate you taking the time to reply. :) The only things I am taking are 100g of ubiquinol and 2000mcg folic acid per day. Should I up any of these do you think or just leave them as they are? I already have the preseed so all good there. And I won't be taking anything extra, except Elevit prenatal every second day or 3 times a week until BFP. I don't know if DH will agree to Olive leaf extract but he might if I buy it for him and say I read online that it helps with BD performance. ;) hehe! How much pineapple should I eat per day in the 2ww do you know? In your opinion Esnce - how long should we take the ubiquinol and olive least extract before attempt? I'm on Flagyl at the moment for a bowel infection. Thanks again. :)

Oh crap I didn't catch that, well even MORE important to just go at it whenever he wants to.

I think you guys need to try right away. by next month he may have changed his mind again.

[1moregirl]

Just found my sway that I posted on Ingender website. Lol! DH and I were BD every second day using a condom (so one night off in between BD nights) and we ended up doing REAL attempts (without condoms) 6 and 4 days before O (I Oed a day later than usual as was going to go for a 5 and 3 day cut off) and a O+12 attempt as well. Yet I think I'm pretty sure I've read somewhere online that older Mums should not do O+12 due to having older eggs and more prone to abnormalities if you conceive with that timing. Strange....I had forgotten that we DTD 3 times when we conceived that time. So if we do DTD just once, maybe it won't happen at all?

[1moregirl]

Plus we were both taking INSANE amounts of cranberry supps, plus calcium and magnesium. Probably overkill I'm sure....don't know how we managed to actually conceive at all. Lol

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm going to refer you to my previous answer regarding when you were going back over your old diary - it may not have been ANY of those things that got you pregnant and/or a boy. People get preggo every day with 1 BD at any age, there are millions of little swimmers in one shot.

Re O+12, the reason I don't like older moms to do it is because our eggs may not even live 12 hours after ovulation and it cuts odds of conception to nothing, and it also doesn't work anyway. Additionally, for ME personally, I felt like best results would come from fresh sperm meeting fresh egg and that was what felt right for me. No abstain, no O+12, because I dind't want to take the chance.

[atomic sagebrush]

Plus we were both taking INSANE amounts of cranberry supps, plus calcium and magnesium. Probably overkill I'm sure....don't know how we managed to actually conceive at all. Lol

Those things may not really cut odds of conception much (although seriously girl, you were taking insane amounts of cranberry LOL). In comparison to some things like antihistamine, which really may.

[1moregirl]

Thanks Atomic. Yes I hear you loud and clear. No antihistamine. What should I do about the probiotic I am taking? Is there any way to counteract the effects of that in my sway? Would me stopping taking it around O day for a few days be of benefit? And what BD timing did you use when you got your girl Atomic? I get worried about BD every 4 days because on the IG they said that was boy zone. With the girl we have we BD on a 3 and 5 day cut off, plus every day around O as well. But with our first son we BD a few times prior to O 2 days in a row. With our third boy we BD twice in a row around O. I know timing is not that important as a sway factor but I'm worried I'm not doing much to increase my odds of getting a girl. I'm worried that everything I'm doing to increase my health and fertility is going to work against me and get me a third boy, not that would be the be all and end all of course.

[atomic sagebrush]

You need the probiotic. that isn't open for debate, if you need something for health and wellbeing you MUST continue to take it. Stopping it for a few days at ovulation would be meaningless because the microorganisms are actually colonizing your intestines and living in there. Just stopping them will not make the ones that are there go away, and could possibly give a toehold for the bad guys to come back again.

When I got my girl my husband and I were having unprotected sex about every 3-5 days and this correlated to my attempt being late at night (about 1 am) the day before O day which is classic Shettles boy timing. I have 3 of 4 boys with girl cutoffs so a total of 4 timing opposites for me.

It is not that timing is an unimportant sway factor. It is that it doesn't work and has been 110% debunked by modern technology. I know I can say it till I"m blue in the face and you're still going to have those doubts but our results have one attempt regardless of day fluctuating between 70-75% and every 4 days at 75% right now.

EVERY pink sway tactic there is reduces odds of conception. That is the reality of pink swaying. There is no pink friendly tactic that ups odds of conception. So you need to turn this around in your mind to say NOT that you're not increasing your odds of getting a girl, but that you really ARE. You have one chance here and time is not our friend anyway even if you were not limited to one shot. If you add in bullshit sway tactics that don't even work, you are actually not increasing your odds of getting a girl becuase you are DECREASING your odds of conceiving. If you do not get pregnant, in this one month you have to try, then you have ZERO percent chance of getting a girl.

[1moregirl]

Had an ER scare a week and half ago when I went in for stomach pain (turned out to be several infections and a cyst) and in the process they did an ultrasound and I only had a yolk sac and was measuring 6w0d when I was 7w0d so they took my betas and had the Ob take them Monday. Then a scan at the Ob on last Thur said there was 2 yolk sacs, measuring still 6w0d and still no fetal poles. Betas were really high and increasing: 50000-72000-110000. Still concerned about there being no babies but the dr wanted me to wait 2 weeks.

Any updates Hun? I've been thinking of you and hoping the best outcome for you.

[signingmommyfor3]

Well I went in for the private scan Thursday and they told me that my uterus isn't slightly tilted but it's really tilted and at this stage because babies are so small and having a tilted uterus it's hard to do a abdominal ultrasound and they don't do vaginal ultrasound there. They were able to confirm that the gestational sac is growing, in 7days measurements went from 6w0d to 7w3d, and there is blood flowing to the gestational sac. She didn't see a reason for concern and They said that I could come back in 2 to 3 weeks for another private ultrasound for free since they were able to do anything really See anything at this one. Have an appt with the Ob this Thursday and he will do a vaginal ultrasound but for now I feel that at least 1 baby is in there growing.

[1moregirl]

Well I went in for the private scan Thursday and they told me that my uterus isn't slightly tilted but it's really tilted and at this stage because babies are so small and having a tilted uterus it's hard to do a abdominal ultrasound and they don't do vaginal ultrasound there. They were able to confirm that the gestational sac is growing, in 7days measurements went from 6w0d to 7w3d, and there is blood flowing to the gestational sac. She didn't see a reason for concern and They said that I could come back in 2 to 3 weeks for another private ultrasound for free since they were able to do anything really See anything at this one. Have an appt with the Ob this Thursday and he will do a vaginal ultrasound but for now I feel that at least 1 baby is in there growing.

That's great news Hun! Sounds really promising. Is a tilted uterus something that you always have or something that can just occur after having a baby or two already? As long as there's one little bubba in there growing healthily away, then that will be a blessing. I never realised how delicate and fragile baby making is until a miscarriage. Then it all gets put into perspective and we feel blessed to have at least one healthy baby. Keep us posted and I hope things keep progressing well for you. Take care. :)

[maidentomother]

Yay signing! I had a good feeling and I hope all continues well. I have an extremely tilted uterus too. I think it may be genetic, my mom had one too, and mine has been tilted my whole life.

Sometimes they stay flipped forward after pregnancy but I don't think pregnancy can cause a tilted uterus.

[1moregirl]

You need the probiotic. that isn't open for debate, if you need something for health and wellbeing you MUST continue to take it. Stopping it for a few days at ovulation would be meaningless because the microorganisms are actually colonizing your intestines and living in there. Just stopping them will not make the ones that are there go away, and could possibly give a toehold for the bad guys to come back again.

When I got my girl my husband and I were having unprotected sex about every 3-5 days and this correlated to my attempt being late at night (about 1 am) the day before O day which is classic Shettles boy timing. I have 3 of 4 boys with girl cutoffs so a total of 4 timing opposites for me.

It is not that timing is an unimportant sway factor. It is that it doesn't work and has been 110% debunked by modern technology. I know I can say it till I"m blue in the face and you're still going to have those doubts but our results have one attempt regardless of day fluctuating between 70-75% and every 4 days at 75% right now.

EVERY pink sway tactic there is reduces odds of conception. That is the reality of pink swaying. There is no pink friendly tactic that ups odds of conception. So you need to turn this around in your mind to say NOT that you're not increasing your odds of getting a girl, but that you really ARE. You have one chance here and time is not our friend anyway even if you were not limited to one shot. If you add in bullshit sway tactics that don't even work, you are actually not increasing your odds of getting a girl becuase you are DECREASING your odds of conceiving. If you do not get pregnant, in this one month you have to try, then you have ZERO percent chance of getting a girl.

I hear you loud and clear Atomic. Thanks soooo much Hun. I really do appreciate all your replies and advice. I just have two more questions - (1) I have only been taking 100mg ubiquinol per day - is that enough? Or should I be taking at least 400mg daily? Also, how am I supposed to wean off of these when I get a BFP if they come in capsule form? (2) would we have a better chance of getting a girl if we BD every 3-4 days as opposed to just the one shot at pos OPK? Thanks so much once again. I am trying to pluck up the courage to give it a go this next cycle coming up and AF arrives in a couple of days, so I guess I'm getting a bit jittery.

[atomic sagebrush]

That's great news Hun! Sounds really promising. Is a tilted uterus something that you always have or something that can just occur after having a baby or two already? As long as there's one little bubba in there growing healthily away, then that will be a blessing. I never realised how delicate and fragile baby making is until a miscarriage. Then it all gets put into perspective and we feel blessed to have at least one healthy baby. Keep us posted and I hope things keep progressing well for you. Take care. :)

Some people always have it and some of us get it after our first. Mine wasn't there with 1st child but with subsequent pregnancies and has gotten worse over time. It sucks because it presses on my bladder and makes my urethra malfunction so I have trouble peeing in the first trimester (fun fun). What happens is that as baby(ies) grow the uterus comes up and flips into position and the baby has enough room to grow. VERY rarely the uterus doesn't flip up and this can be dangerous, but it hardly ever goes that way.

I do think it's partly genetic because my mom and one of my sisters has it too.

[atomic sagebrush]

I hear you loud and clear Atomic. Thanks soooo much Hun. I really do appreciate all your replies and advice. I just have two more questions - (1) I have only been taking 100mg ubiquinol per day - is that enough? Or should I be taking at least 400mg daily? Also, how am I supposed to wean off of these when I get a BFP if they come in capsule form? (2) would we have a better chance of getting a girl if we BD every 3-4 days as opposed to just the one shot at pos OPK? Thanks so much once again. I am trying to pluck up the courage to give it a go this next cycle coming up and AF arrives in a couple of days, so I guess I'm getting a bit jittery.

I used to only use 100 but so many reproductive endocrinolosgists were recommending
200-600 range that I have recently increased it. I cannot say if it's better or worse, just going off their recommendations. You just gradually space doses furhter and further out till down to 1 per week and then safe to drop.

I don't know what method would get you better results. Two different sets of people (very fertile people, with regular cycles get pregnant with one attempt, whereas less fertile people who have been swaying a long time and/or have irregular cycles are doing e4d) are using those methods and they are not able to be compared.

[maidentomother]

1moregirl, if your DH is amenable I'd personally BD E3D in your case, since you only have one cycle to try.

[atomic sagebrush]

She is BD only one time unprotected, the other times she will use a condom

Thus, I don't think it makes one iota of difference if it's 2,3,4 or whatever. In fact probably best to just do what hubby wants as we need to keep him buttered up. :)

[1moregirl]

Buttered up! Lol! Love it. Yep...I totally agree Atomic. Will just have to take whatever I can get from DH and I don't want to push my luck that's for sure.

[Traci25]

I don't have any advice. ( just started myself) I just got dg on bored to try for 6 months for another but I stopped ovulating :( wishing you the best of luck and praying you get an that you want!!

[1moregirl]

I don't have any advice. ( just started myself) I just got dg on bored to try for 6 months for another but I stopped ovulating :( wishing you the best of luck and praying you get an that you want!!

Good luck to you too Traci. It's great that you got DH on board to try for 6 months. You are very lucky that way. Do you have other kids already? I'm not sure what to advice you about not ovulating Hun but I'm sure one of the other lovely helpful ladies (inc Atomic) will be able to help you on that topic.