Blue- its a boy!

[Blue]

Gender Result: BOY!!

DW Age: 27
DH Age: 30

Current Children's Gender(s)
Girl

Number of Months TTC:
M/c in April did not TTC again until August.

Did you purchase and follow a GD Personalized Plan?
Yes

MINERALS
Calcium Intake (Please describe)

just had more cereal, had full fat yogurt , full fat milk. I didn't on purpose exceed calcium intake or decrease it. I just ate anything and everything due to HE diet

Potassium Intake(Please describe)

Had potato when ever I could. I did have Weetabix with banana every other morning. Sweet potato aswell randomly baked.

Sodium Intake(Please describe)
Ate foods high in sodium but not so excessive as to be hazardous to health. Also switched salt to the high in iodine salt.

SUPPLEMENTS USED

DW Supplements

pregnacare plus, folic acid, vitamin D, bio kult. Not in the month of conception but in previous attempts had taken wheatgrass powder mixed with V8 ( gross taste!)


DH Supplements

folic acid made him feel funny. he took wellman when he could be bothered to remember.

Any additional supplement info?

I started my diet in Decemeber 2014. I changed my household eating style. I was drinking ALOT of coconut water before I m/c in April. then after that I cut back and just had half a glass here or there as I didn't like the taste ( I was in my healing period post the loss) I stuck to drinking V8 when I worked out. Wheatgrass powder mixed in with any juice I believe may have helped as it made me feel stronger in general.





DIET
Did you follow a diet plan?
as much as I could

If yes to diet, which one did you most follow?

breakfast was a MUST. did not skip breakfast through out the time I started the diet. Also I had Weetabix or cheerio's before I went to sleep. I put on a lot of weight... going from 6 stones to about 9 stones over a course of a year.


Comments regarding DW's diet changes-
Had breakfast daily. he had what ever I made him!

If diet was used, length of time before attempt?
12 months prior

Did you skip breakfast regularly?
No

Did DH change his diet with you?

yes he could only eat what I made or he would starve. he was really open and accepting to eating anything really he isn't a fussy man

Comments regarding DH's diet-

he ate normally. however I cooked a lot in coconut oil/ olive oil. I changed everything in our house. we had coconut butter, coconut oil, organic mayonnaise, high fibre bread. we had to change our diet in general as it was crap to be honest. we are a lot more aware of eating healthily and eating more filling long energy lasting foods now.

Did you consume alcohol?

No we do not drink alcohol.

Did you try to limit caffeine?

No. I think we drank a lot more due to our work being excessive difficult in the past few months we needed our tea's!

Any Diet Details?
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Any Diet Comments/Additional Info?
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Weight And Exercise

I put on roughly 3 stones. I went from being 6'ish stones with good sized boobs, to almost 9 stones ( pokey out belly!) huge boobs. ( i THINK this is what really made the sway having huge bum and boobs lol!) i exercised when i could - prior to my loss i was picking up weights every other day if not daily, i bought a cross trainer, i really trained hard. After the loss i started walking more , did weights when i could be bothered to ( lost motivaton ) and i focused on being happy. i live across the street from a park so i would go for walks with my DD.



Things in VG and Conception Date(CD) Info

i was actually randomly using the pre-seed i had bought, i would put it in my vagina ( whether or not we were dtd'ing) before the conception month. during conception week i think i did manage to put it on once before i jumped on my husband. He does not like the feeling of lube for a start and secondly these were all signals that i was ovulating putting him under pressure which does not work for him!!!

PH Before Starting a Sway Program, if known
-

Any VG potions used?
-
CM pH at attempt
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DH pH
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The Deed Info

we DTD before ovulation for about 3 days. Then when i had the smiley face- my DD decided to sleep with us. i tried to lure him into our other bedroom.... but the issue we had was i would make it so obvious i was ovulating he felt pressured. so we skipped that. Managed to DTD morning after and then the next night and following night. Atomic guided me! i basically DTD as much as i could daily. ( We only have a short amount of time in the evenings and mornings were a rush for us)


BD Dates according to Ovulation


BD Position
missionary

Any additional comments?




Any relevant attempt details?

being positive.

Did you do anything with Ions?
mobile, laptop, computer daily!

Moon Phase:
not sure

Did you use any Old Wives Tales?

i had bought my nephew a hat and booties in white and blue i bought one for myself as inspiration kept it in my drawer next to our bed!

Things that make me feel great about my sway:

better diet. i actually felt more energetic and good about life although i was kind of fat!

Things that make me feel not so great about my sway:

too much caffiene, did not do as much in terms of weights around conception or prior 2 months. my DH also did not exercise alot since our loss we basically were increasing exercising by walking more. choosing to walk or doing DIY or cleaning the house.


i would like to thank Atomic for firstly changing my perception and making me eat better. The boy sway made me want to eat wholesome foods not processed foods. to concieve any gender start of being healthy. Atomic has been guiding me for 2 years and i heavily relied on her advice.

I know in the end it is something out of our control what gender we have. But i thank God for giving me this blessing!

[nuthinbutpink]

Congrats!

[pinkfairydust]

congratulations xxx

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm so happy for you Blue!!! :heart:

[Throwaway_panther]

I liked this and forgot to say -- congratulations!! Your post is so positive and gives me home! Do you mind me asking how old your daughter was when you conceived your son?

[Mamato3?]

Congrats!

[Blue]

My daughter was 3.5 years when I conceived!

[Mulberry Smurf]

Congratulations :) enjoy your wee man! Xx

[anga236]

I read for conceiving boy ,we have to dtd 12-24 hrs after we get positive , but in some post i am seeing dtd 3 days before ovulation, does it sway girl? Can somebody pls explain this?

[atomic sagebrush]

Most of us on here have timing opposites. I have 3 boys conceived with 3 day cutoffs!!

When I looked into it I found that the whole idea has been completely debunked by science and you can read all that here https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/7691-trouble-timing.html

We have found that one attempt, for reasons we do not know, has swayed strongly PINK. So having one attempt at ovulation is a really bad way to get a boy. I cannot recommend doing one attempt 12 hours after positive OPK for blue swayers (that's pretty much when I got my only daughter!!). What I would have you do instead, if you still want to do timing, is have an attempt the night of positive OPK (O-1) , again the next morning (O Day) and then again the following night (also O Day). This is still Shettles timing window for a boy but you'll have 2-3 attempts instead of just one.

Also be sure you are having your husband release every 2-4 days, either on his own or with you (with protection if you want to do timing, but be sure that you are not using a spermicide condom as those may sway pink)

[anga236]

Thank you so much for the reply, I am going to get opk to get better understanding, still new to few terms using here in the forum and atomic you are really such a blessing for me :):):)

[atomic sagebrush]

Don't hesitate to ask if you need any more explanation on anything. I know it is overwhelming at first. :)

[anga236]

Hi atomic, can you suggest one without spermicide ? Thanks. I am planning to get personalized gender plan with coach ,can u pls help me with tht

[atomic sagebrush]

It will say the spermicide ones on the label. Just be sure to read the label before buying them. I don't recommend brands as there are so many all around the world and I'd never be able to keep up with all of them.

If you want to get a plan then just go to the top of the page, it says "membership and plans" and then click that open, and you'll see the option for the Customized/Personalized Plan and then once you buy it, you'll be directed to a questionnaire where you can fill it out and then I make a plan for you. :) I will also be your coach.

[anga236]

It will say the spermicide ones on the label. Just be sure to read the label before buying them. I don't recommend brands as there are so many all around the world and I'd never be able to keep up with all of them.

If you want to get a plan then just go to the top of the page, it says "membership and plans" and then click that open, and you'll see the option for the Customized/Personalized Plan and then once you buy it, you'll be directed to a questionnaire where you can fill it out and then I make a plan for you. :) I will also be your coach.

Ok will do thanks for d reply

[anga236]

Hi atomic, I took the 99$ package for boy sway, what's next ? You said you will be my coach. I am a vegetarian but I eat eggs , can you provide 21 days vegetarian meal plan? Let me know . Thanks !!!

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes I'll be your coach, I will get your plan back to you as quick as I can. Take a look at the meal plan and see if it is helpful to you, there are actually some vegetarian options in it and you can just substitute in meat replacements like beans or quorn and similar things. If you dont' think it is helpful I will give you a refund.

[Psalms 139:14]

Congratulations!! So happy for you! Send me some blue dust [emoji170]


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[Filzma]

This is amazing.


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[anga236]

Yes I'll be your coach, I will get your plan back to you as quick as I can. Take a look at the meal plan and see if it is helpful to you, there are actually some vegetarian options in it and you can just substitute in meat replacements like beans or quorn and similar things. If you dont' think it is helpful I will give you a refund.

It is really helpful, thank you so much. I will post my sway soon. Can i post it to get the suggestions even if I am not conceived.

[atomic sagebrush]

It is really helpful, thank you so much. I will post my sway soon. Can i post it to get the suggestions even if I am not conceived.

Yes of course you can post in your coaching forum if you want my input right away and/or also out here in the free forums and I'll sound off on it either way! wherever you feel more comfortable posting.

[Chomzi]

Most of us on here have timing opposites. I have 3 boys conceived with 3 day cutoffs!!

When I looked into it I found that the whole idea has been completely debunked by science and you can read all that here https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/7691-trouble-timing.html

We have found that one attempt, for reasons we do not know, has swayed strongly PINK. So having one attempt at ovulation is a really bad way to get a boy. I cannot recommend doing one attempt 12 hours after positive OPK for blue swayers (that's pretty much when I got my only daughter!!). What I would have you do instead, if you still want to do timing, is have an attempt the night of positive OPK (O-1) , again the next morning (O Day) and then again the following night (also O Day). This is still Shettles timing window for a boy but you'll have 2-3 attempts instead of just one.

Also be sure you are having your husband release every 2-4 days, either on his own or with you (with protection if you want to do timing, but be sure that you are not using a spermicide condom as those may sway pink)

Good day Atomic. pls shed light on husband releasing 2-4 days. Bcos i read much ejaculation sways girl,we abstain from sex/ejaculation from AF-O to ensure much of Y sperm.

Or should we have it after AF,then abstain till night of positive OPK?

[atomic sagebrush]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAA

NO PLEASE DO NOT ABSTAIN FROM AF-O FOR A BOY!

Oh gosh reading that terrifies me LOL

Abstaining for that long sways pink by killing off massive amounts of sperm and making many many more of them unhealthy. It's been a pink sway tactic for as long as I've been swaying (10 years now)

All blue swayers need to have their husbands release every 2-4 days. This is not too much ejaculation. This is called regular release and it makes the most healthy sperm (both X and Y) and whenever there are a lot of sperm in the ejaculate, this sways blue (we don't know why). Please have your husband release on his own or with you, with a non-spermicide condom, every 2-4 days starting immediately.

What you are thinking of is frequent release. But this has to be 7-10 days of release every single day in a row before it sways pink (and even then it doesn't work very well!)

Please have your husband start doing regular release every 2-4 days right away. YOu do not need to "abstain" for a boy or save up sperm for any number of days before your attempts in the fertile window. You just need to avoid long abstains OR long periods of time where he is releasing every day in a row. 2 releases in a row does not sway pink. Every 2-4 day release absolultely does not sway pink. Abstaining from AF-O DOES sway pink and so that needs to go right away. :)

[Chomzi]

OMG!!! Thank God I stumbled on this thread and had to ask.

We ve been doing it all wrong. Immediately I read ur reply Atomic,I had him release. He has not since my last fertile window.

So does he need to have another release maybe tomorrow,then we observe the two-two days interval? I ask bcos we ve been ignorantly saving sperm and suffering the man,so would another release this evening and tomorrow evening be OK to put off the unhealthy ones? Then we start the two-two days pattern.

Thank God for u,Atomic

[Chomzi]

:):)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA AAAAAAAA

NO PLEASE DO NOT ABSTAIN FROM AF-O FOR A BOY!

Oh gosh reading that terrifies me LOL

Abstaining for that long sways pink by killing off massive amounts of sperm and making many many more of them unhealthy. It's been a pink sway tactic for as long as I've been swaying (10 years now)

All blue swayers need to have their husbands release every 2-4 days. This is not too much ejaculation. This is called regular release and it makes the most healthy sperm (both X and Y) and whenever there are a lot of sperm in the ejaculate, this sways blue (we don't know why). Please have your husband release on his own or with you, with a non-spermicide condom, every 2-4 days starting immediately.

What you are thinking of is frequent release. But this has to be 7-10 days of release every single day in a row before it sways pink (and even then it doesn't work very well!)

Please have your husband start doing regular release every 2-4 days right away. YOu do not need to "abstain" for a boy or save up sperm for any number of days before your attempts in the fertile window. You just need to avoid long abstains OR long periods of time where he is releasing every day in a row. 2 releases in a row does not sway pink. Every 2-4 day release absolultely does not sway pink. Abstaining from AF-O DOES sway pink and so that needs to go right away. :)

And ur long AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA made me laugh at ourselves.(haha)

[atomic sagebrush]

I would just go to every 2-4 days right now. Doing more releases won't get rid of the bad sperm any faster and it may even make him depleted and less able to make new healthy sperm to replace them.

I am just SO happy I caught this in time! :bluecheer: :bluecheer: :bluecheer:

[atomic sagebrush]

:):)

And ur long AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA made me laugh at ourselves.(haha)

I really said 'AAA" out loud when I read that! Maybe not that long though!! :) Sending you tons of blue dust!

[Chomzi]

Pls help me review my sway in general to avoid had I known.


Patatoes- I fry many and snack on them daily.

Eat anything I find in morning,mostly white rice or corn pap

Eat rice,beans,meat(red meat,lean meat and goat meat),fish.

I eat banana and groundnut daily.

Sometimes I blend banana and avocado and take.

Beverage (cocoa tea and full cream milk),with white bread.

Also want to cook snail today,I ate yesterday(don't know if its a no no)

Drink coconut water daily and snack on coconut.

I ordered the women-one-a-day but hasn't arrived,but taking vit e,folic acid,zinc,50mg vit.c

I will start taking the multivitamin by tomorrow when I get them.

I add 2 lemon to a glass of water and take it with raw garlic about 2-3 cloves,daily.

I plan to use mucinex 5-O days.

Also looking for fish oil too

DH will take a cold shower b4 every attempt.

Will make first attempt night of positive opk,morning and night.

Excersices little but trying

There's no ac in my room,except my lounge,so I sleep under the fan.

Don't know where to get a pH test strip, already looked for one but couldn't find. I don't know how else to check my ph

[Chomzi]

I would just go to every 2-4 days right now. Doing more releases won't get rid of the bad sperm any faster and it may even make him depleted and less able to make new healthy sperm to replace them.

I am just SO happy I caught this in time! :bluecheer: :bluecheer: :bluecheer:

Thank u again. Am a lot more happy that I sorted this.

U are of great help

[Chomzi]

I really said 'AAA" out loud when I read that! Maybe not that long though!! :) Sending you tons of blue dust!

Pls review my sway. Thank u

[Throwaway_panther]

I would just go to every 2-4 days right now. Doing more releases won't get rid of the bad sperm any faster and it may even make him depleted and less able to make new healthy sperm to replace them.

I am just SO happy I caught this in time! :bluecheer: :bluecheer: :bluecheer:

Coming from the MFI world here, there are actually many studies saying that frequent release will help clear out the fragmented/damaged sperm and that there will be less damaged sperm in the refractory period. But of course that comes with the flipside of temporarily lowering count in the meantime. I'd think EOD release would be a safer recommendation to help catch things up just imo.Just thought I'd offer that info since I've learned so much about it.

[Chomzi]

Coming from the MFI world here, there are actually many studies saying that frequent release will help clear out the fragmented/damaged sperm and that there will be less damaged sperm in the refractory period. But of course that comes with the flipside of temporarily lowering count in the meantime. I'd think EOD release would be a safer recommendation to help catch things up just imo.Just thought I'd offer that info since I've learned so much about it.

Thank u.

Pls what's EOD?

[Throwaway_panther]

Thank u.

Pls what's EOD?

Sorry! It's "every other day."

[atomic sagebrush]

Coming from the MFI world here, there are actually many studies saying that frequent release will help clear out the fragmented/damaged sperm and that there will be less damaged sperm in the refractory period. But of course that comes with the flipside of temporarily lowering count in the meantime. I'd think EOD release would be a safer recommendation to help catch things up just imo.Just thought I'd offer that info since I've learned so much about it.

I understand, and appreciate the information. The issue is that too many blue swayer's husbands can't keep up with that and I believe we see best results with every 2-4 days. What happens is that they are so depleted that then when the fertile window opens they aren't able to have but one attempt and that ends up not only undermining the sway, but also really cutting odds of conception as well. :)

[Throwaway_panther]

I understand, and appreciate the information. The issue is that too many blue swayer's husbands can't keep up with that and I believe we see best results with every 2-4 days. What happens is that they are so depleted that then when the fertile window opens they aren't able to have but one attempt and that ends up not only undermining the sway, but also really cutting odds of conception as well. :)

Ah right! It's such a balancing act with sperm I'm realizing. Too bad we can't just self impregnate lol

[atomic sagebrush]

1)Potatoes are fine. White rice and corn are ok to eat but they are pretty low in nutrients and you "spend" a lot of calories for something that is not very nutritious. You can have them, but if you are gaining weight fast, you should focus more on things that have a lot of nutrients. Same with white bread - it's ok but it is a little bit of a waste of calories since you may end up gaining weight by eating a lot of grains.

2)Beans and meat and fish, banana, groundnut, avocado all good. Coconut is great!

3)I'd probably stick with fish or snails no more than 2x a week.

4):agree: with the multivitamin.

5):agree: with the lemon water. Do you find the garlic and fish oil combined cause you to bleed or bruise? You may want to cut back to 1 garlic clove a day when taking the fish oil since combining them can make your blood thin.

6)there is no need for a cold shower. Just because heat harms sperm, it does not mean that cold then repairs them. I have a long explanation in this thread. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/62485-family-jewels-faq-blue-pink.html

7)I don't think air conditioning does anything anyway. I never have had an air conditioner and I have 4 boys!

8)I wouldn't worry about testing pH. We have found that to be completely unreliable (I got my 4th boy with girl pH) and it is just more trouble than it's worth. Most of us have totally given that up anyway.

[atomic sagebrush]

Ah right! It's such a balancing act with sperm I'm realizing. Too bad we can't just self impregnate lol

:agree: and it gets even more complex when swaying since we have to take into consideration hubby's ability to perform in addition to the effects on sperm alone. do really appreciate the info, though

[Chomzi]

1)Potatoes are fine. White rice and corn are ok to eat but they are pretty low in nutrients and you "spend" a lot of calories for something that is not very nutritious. You can have them, but if you are gaining weight fast, you should focus more on things that have a lot of nutrients. Same with white bread - it's ok but it is a little bit of a waste of calories since you may end up gaining weight by eating a lot of grains.

2)Beans and meat and fish, banana, groundnut, avocado all good. Coconut is great!

3)I'd probably stick with fish or snails no more than 2x a week.

4):agree: with the multivitamin.

5):agree: with the lemon water. Do you find the garlic and fish oil combined cause you to bleed or bruise? You may want to cut back to 1 garlic clove a day when taking the fish oil since combining them can make your blood thin.

6)there is no need for a cold shower. Just because heat harms sperm, it does not mean that cold then repairs them. I have a long explanation in this thread. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/62485-family-jewels-faq-blue-pink.html

7)I don't think air conditioning does anything anyway. I never have had an air conditioner and I have 4 boys!

8)I wouldn't worry about testing pH. We have found that to be completely unreliable (I got my 4th boy with girl pH) and it is just more trouble than it's worth. Most of us have totally given that up anyway.

Thanks for the review.

Do u have recommendations to swap the white rice? Mostly cereals here contain soy,and I really don't like taking it.

Am not taking fish oil yet,havnt found one. The one I saw online would deliver after my ovulation so didn't order. Just taking garlic,folic acid and women one a day.

I will reduce the garlic to a clove a day.

Pls recommend sources of carb. The only ones common in Nigeria are white yam,bread,white rice,and swallows.

Can't think of another now.

Thank u always

[atomic sagebrush]

Well, I definitely ate white rice when I was getting my boys - just be sure you aren't getting LOTS of calories from the white rice. Like, have a smaller serving of rice or corn and then still eat the same amount of meat sauce or whatever you put on top of it. Yams and potatoes and any sweet vegetable like carrot, beetroot, squash are all good carbs. Groundnuts are great as well! It is just that rice has a lot of calories for not a lot else. so you may want to have a smaller portion of rice to prevent excess weight gain.

If you are having butter or coconut oil you can get by without the fish oil.

[Chomzi]

Well, I definitely ate white rice when I was getting my boys - just be sure you aren't getting LOTS of calories from the white rice. Like, have a smaller serving of rice or corn and then still eat the same amount of meat sauce or whatever you put on top of it. Yams and potatoes and any sweet vegetable like carrot, beetroot, squash are all good carbs. Groundnuts are great as well! It is just that rice has a lot of calories for not a lot else. so you may want to have a smaller portion of rice to prevent excess weight gain.

If you are having butter or coconut oil you can get by without the fish oil.

God bless u Atomic.

I don't take coconut oil,just coconut water and coconut in fresh form,I don't know if they alone can serve.

Then lots of water.

I added unripe plantain flour today just to cut down the white rice.

Thanks for ur great help. I pray my sway works and I get my bfp bcos I have taken a lot if correction this cycle.

[atomic sagebrush]

What about butter or lard?? Those things count too. Palm oil is ok, but not as desirable as butter, lard, and coconut oil.

I have never taken any fish oil and I have 4 boys. It is not a prerequisite if you can't get it where you live. :)

[Chomzi]

What about butter or lard?? Those things count too. Palm oil is ok, but not as desirable as butter, lard, and coconut oil.

I have never taken any fish oil and I have 4 boys. It is not a prerequisite if you can't get it where you live. :)

OK

I have never seen or heard about lard but will use palm oil/butter.

I was placed on iron pills and folic acid yesterday. First time having low heamoglobin,i bleed 6days this last cycle. So probably i might/or not try this cycle.

Doctor said to see him 5days,so i will know my plans by then.

U are God sent Atomic,thanks

[atomic sagebrush]

It's pork based so if you live in an area/culture that does not eat pork you would not have lard around. But you can use beef tallow or schmaltz (rendered chicken fat) instead, both are good. :)

[Chomzi]

It's pork based so if you live in an area/culture that does not eat pork you would not have lard around. But you can use beef tallow or schmaltz (rendered chicken fat) instead, both are good. :)

Hi Atomic, hoping for ur reply soonest possible

I found a cough syrup with Guaiphenesin B.P 50mg and
Dextromethorphan Hydrobromide B.P 10mg

Is it safe to use?

[atomic sagebrush]

No I'm sorry we need the one without dextromethorphan in it. No one should use dextromethorphan while trying to conceive, it's not safe.

[Chomzi]

No I'm sorry we need the one without dextromethorphan in it. No one should use dextromethorphan while trying to conceive, it's not safe.

Hmmmm, thanks Atomic
I wont take any further. Took it twice for 2days cos my ovulation was yesterday. God help me
Though i noticed more thinned cm than last cycle

[atomic sagebrush]

It's really no big deal, it's just us wanting to be on the safest side. 2 days is nothing!

[Chomzi]

It's really no big deal, it's just us wanting to be on the safest side. 2 days is nothing!

God bless u dear. U are if great help. Thank u always