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Pbn3
February 15th, 2016, 07:17 PM
Ok well try and break it down for what it is. You will very likely o tomorrow so if you left it you'd have a 3-o and day of o attempts. Not THE greatest BUT people have and do get bfps with this sequence. Hopefully there are still some live swimmers there OR hopefully you catch the egg after its released. Otherwise if you bd tonight you have a 3-o and 1-o. If you think there's little chance of swimmers being around from previous attempt what difference does it make if you bd tonight as opposed to tomorrow morning? We all know that more than one attempt is considered blue friendly but I think sometimes to you've got to look at the larger picture. If the decision is giving you this much stress why not stick to e3d this cycle ask Atomics advise for if you find yourself in this situation next cycle (which fx you wont need to!). Ask yourself if its more important to see a bfp at this point or if you have another swaying cycle left in you. Hope you find some peace with your decision.

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Pbn3
February 15th, 2016, 07:24 PM
Again you've been swaying so long its become a lifestyle for you. There are one attempts that end up with blue and multiple attempts that end up in pink. There is no guarantee, we can only try and influence the outcome. Personally I think the diet and exercise trumps number of attempts especially after a year but again thats my opinion. You need to work out what you have the most faith in. I would create the thread asking the question anyway because even if atomic doesn't answer in time you will get a broader range of opinions from other swayers :)

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pinkin2011
February 15th, 2016, 07:39 PM
Im am on clomid too Lauren tho im on my 3rd month. I have been "trying" for ages with cut off ect but on clomid i have had a o-3 attempt and a month of dtd every day for 7 days over ovulation this month Atomic and i are going with aiming for 2 attempts . I must add that i have 2 boys. 1 conceived with multiple attempts and one conceived with only 1 attempt so im not totally sold on the 1 attempt idea! I think diet plus exercise plus clomid is a awesome sway and the point is to get pregnant and not drag it out on clomid. But thats only my opinion you do what you are comfortable with

maidentomother
February 15th, 2016, 07:44 PM
Lauren, the reason I very much think you should wait until tomorrow (at the very earliest), if not 36 hours/I.e. E4D, is bc this is your FIRST cycle on Clomid. Maybe you haven't been Oing, or have been Oing a lot later (with a shorter LP) and maybe your year of TTC hasn't actually been well timed. Maybe you have egg quality issues. If any of those apply, then this cycle is effectively your first real cycle trying.

Even if you had a year of perfectly timed attempts and O confirmed to the day, I would STILL think one attempt or E4D would be best the first cycle on Clomid.

Laurenk1424
February 15th, 2016, 07:48 PM
Just bought different OPKs to test when I get home. I think we may wait until tomorrow. Thank you for all the feedback. I really do appreciate having people to bounce ideas back and forth with.


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Pbn3
February 15th, 2016, 07:50 PM
I thought this was your second cycle on clomid Lauren? In any case really happy you've come to a decision and fx all the way!! And agree its really helpful to get a variety of feedback!

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Laurenk1424
February 15th, 2016, 07:52 PM
First cycle on Clomid. I have to say, the only side effects I have felt have been achy pains around my ovaries the week.


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maidentomother
February 15th, 2016, 07:53 PM
Plus tons of ladies conceive from BD 4 or more days before O, including on Clomid. Especially if you have days of EWCM, sperm can survive for at least 6 days. If you've had that much fertile CM, I highly, highly doubt you are acidic.

Laurenk1424
February 15th, 2016, 07:55 PM
Thanks maiden... The day we bd a few days ago I had lots of EWCM so I'm really hoping they are in there holding on for that egg. I think I will hold off on another attempt... As much as I want to be pregnant, I really want to give myself a new round of chances with this Clomid, even if I end up having to skip a month due to due date timing.


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maidentomother
February 15th, 2016, 08:22 PM
I would personally not waste a cycle after a month on Clomid as the drug lasts so long that the following cycle is effectively a Clomid cycle, too. I am purposefully alternating one cycle on, on Clomid and one cycle off for this reason. Just something to consider! You could always just do one attempt, aimed at the day before you expect to O, so you give it a chance. I understand about time of year though...I want to skip TTC in April-May bc Jan-Feb is a very bad time of year for me psychologically.

Please let us know how the new OPKs compare! Btw, you can store urine at room temp or in the fridge for days and it will still give accurate OPKs. I do that if I run out and want to be able to test retroactively.

Laurenk1424
February 15th, 2016, 08:41 PM
Blazing positive with FRER OPK as well. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/02/15/27b1f4226ef97f160705effa99e77d11.jpg




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Pbn3
February 15th, 2016, 08:51 PM
At least you know your opk is accurate :)

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Quinn31
February 15th, 2016, 11:01 PM
Quinn, is this your last cycle of trying or are you going to try the injectables first? This is the start of my 12th cycle of trying and I too am growing tired of the up and downs of this process. I really want a sibling for our DD though so I will try for a few more months at least.

We will do injectables next cycle, then we're done. It will be 9 cycles next month and dh wants the baby to be born before his next birthday since he's 45. I'm still trying to hold out hope for this month. I would love and October baby.


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essnce629
February 16th, 2016, 01:10 AM
Okay now I feel crazy lol my OPK today is the darkest it's ever been. We aren't due to bd until tomorrow morning at 930am (ish lol) I'm tempted to bd tonight because of this super positive and not having a temp right yet and our last bd day being over two days ago. Ahhhhh what should I do?
Tfahn- I had bloodwork. No pregnancy here. Just a crazy ass cycle lol
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Lauren, the only opks in your pic that look positive to me are those from CD14-CD16. The rest look close, but not truly positive.

essnce629
February 16th, 2016, 01:21 AM
Also Lauren, I tend to get one day of blaring positive (test line darker than control), then one day of regular positive (test line equal to control), then the next day is negative and that's when I O (day of -opk). So it's still completely possible that you won't O for another 1-2 days, which means it really won't matter if you BD tonight or tomorrow AM, just as long as you do.

Laurenk1424
February 16th, 2016, 11:29 AM
We had sex this morning and I have another blaring positive OPK. http://images.tapatalk-cdn.com/16/02/16/a6d5b648c30287046d2dc89de03944e9.jpg
My hubs said "maybe youll release two eggs" ummmmm not cool hub. Not cool. Lol


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tfahn
February 16th, 2016, 12:54 PM
What day do you normally O without Clomid? How are your temps? I would gladly take 2 healthly eggs this Clomid Cycle :)

Laurenk1424
February 16th, 2016, 12:56 PM
What day do you normally O without Clomid? How are your temps? I would gladly take 2 healthly eggs this Clomid Cycle :)

I'm never the same. O varies from cd14 to cd23 for me. My temps are staying about the same, haven't seen anything major. I had a slight dip this morning.


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tfahn
February 16th, 2016, 01:05 PM
That's a tough one with all those positive tests Lauren; I think the most I had were 2 days of positives. My O is unpredictable too, anywhere from 13-19, and sometimes I O the day of a positive and sometimes its 2 days later. So hard to BD Plan when you don't know what to expect, hopefully your body is making a really good quality egg and will release it soon.

Laurenk1424
February 16th, 2016, 01:06 PM
Thanks tfahn. I agree, the timing is so difficult when u keep getting positive after positive. Hopefully today's bd will count for O within the next day or so. Who knows.


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essnce629
February 16th, 2016, 02:24 PM
Keep BD every 3-4 days Lauren and you'll for sure be covered no matter when you O. When I was using the Wondfo opks and getting tons of positives in a row, it was obvious that I needed to only count the blaring positives (test line darker than control) as a true positive. So in your case, that would be today and yesterday only. I'm pretty sure you'll O within 48 hours, especially with your temp drop today which is common right before O.

Laurenk1424
February 16th, 2016, 02:26 PM
Thank you! I'm really hoping today's bd counts towards O because I don't want to even think of dealing with the stress I felt last night trying to make a decision. Haha.


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Quinn31
February 16th, 2016, 04:29 PM
Ladies, does this look like it could still be the trigger from 13 days ago? Unfortunately, I didn't test out the trigger so I don't know. This is a $1 store cheapie with a 25hcg. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160216/db48380b506f74f673a6f428da2b9509.jpg


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tfahn
February 16th, 2016, 04:31 PM
How much HCG was in your trigger shot? I think I read that 10,000 is out of your system by 14 days. How many DPO are you?

tfahn
February 16th, 2016, 04:36 PM
Momamia was testing out her 10,000 trigger shot this month and I believe her tests were much lighter at this point and she was using FRER if I remember correctly.

Fingers crossed for you, looks really promising.

Quinn31
February 16th, 2016, 04:39 PM
My urine was pretty diluted too


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Quinn31
February 16th, 2016, 04:41 PM
How much HCG was in your trigger shot? I think I read that 10,000 is out of your system by 14 days. How many DPO are you?

Yeah it was 10,000. I was hopeful because it's pretty dark and I had diluted midday urine. I held it for 3 hours but also drank a 20 oz soda in the process. I'm 13 days past the trigger and really 13.5 days past since I had it at 6:30am.


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tfahn
February 16th, 2016, 04:49 PM
Do you know how many days after the trigger you O'd? You had 2 really good eggs this month correct? (Maybe its twins!)

Can you persuade the doctor to do HCG bloodwork earlier then Friday since you would still need another test 48 hours later to confirm, If it was me I would want to know before the weekend. :)

I really hope this is your month!

momamia4
February 16th, 2016, 04:50 PM
Quinn, I'd be doing a happy dance if I were you!!! :) My tests were no where near as dark as that 13 days past the trigger.

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Quinn31
February 16th, 2016, 04:57 PM
I'm hopeful but kind of mad at myself because I'll be super crushed if I start now. The fact that my urine was so diluted makes me think it could be a good sign.


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momamia4
February 16th, 2016, 05:01 PM
I'd keep testing but I'm pretty sure it's accurate. Here's mine from 13dpt.

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momamia4
February 16th, 2016, 05:01 PM
And that's with fmu!!

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Pbn3
February 16th, 2016, 05:16 PM
Looks like everything will work out great with your e3d pattern after all Lauren! Hope you see a spike tomorrow or the next day, that's a super dark positive on your opk this morning!

Quinn how very exciting!! How soon until you get confirmation?

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Laurenk1424
February 16th, 2016, 05:21 PM
Quinn!!- so exciting! I would be cautiously optimistic like you, but that seems pretty dark!


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essnce629
February 16th, 2016, 05:26 PM
Quinn, that seems way too dark for a trigger at this point, especially compared to momamia's! I know Maiden has said the trigger should be 100% gone by 14 days I think. I bet you'd get a blaring BFP with FMU on a FRER, so I'm thinking you're pregnant!!!

Quinn31
February 16th, 2016, 06:07 PM
Thanks so much for the reassurance ladies. I'm still scared but more hopeful now. It does seem like if 14 days past trigger is safe, then 13.5 should be to right? Ahhh now to freak out for a couple more days.

XXforhubby
February 16th, 2016, 06:13 PM
You're pregnant Quinn!! I'm going to be stalking to see your tests over the next few days!

Take my blue baby dust [emoji597][emoji92][emoji170][emoji843][emoji170][emoji94]!!


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Magical22
February 16th, 2016, 06:36 PM
Omg Quinn so exciting I've tested out my tigger heaps and it never went past 7 days!!!


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ksmom
February 16th, 2016, 07:03 PM
OMG Quinn!!! :D I just now saw your test! This HAS to be your BFP! No way that's the trigger if the test is that dark. FXFX

Girlieplease
February 16th, 2016, 07:12 PM
Wow quinn that looks like a positive to me, keeping everything crossed that it is your bfp!
Good luck Lauren I hope you catch that egg!
How else is testing soon? X

Quinn31
February 16th, 2016, 08:53 PM
Thanks ladies for all your support!! I'm a little nervous because I'm having a dull ache on the right pubic bone. I know that's weird but it's really bugging me and nonstop. Any idea what it could be? It really low and the only thing I can think is my pubic bone or a ligament there.

I also have zero cramps. I've had them with all four of my bfps. Including my chemical in December that ended at 5.5 weeks. Should I be concerned?


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momamia4
February 16th, 2016, 09:28 PM
I wouldn't be concerned. All of my pregnancies were different. The ache could be your corpus luteum which is totally normal. It can cause an achy feeling because it can be quite large as it produces progesterone to support your pregnancy. TaytumJ had it at the beginning of her pregnancy and she's 26 weeks pregnant now. :)

ksmom
February 16th, 2016, 09:39 PM
I always have quite a bit of ovary pain when pregnant, so I think it's normal.

farmgirl33
February 16th, 2016, 09:50 PM
Quinn - I know nothing about trigger shots but as others have said it should be out of your system by now surely. Fx for you that this is your bfp.

Lauren - fx for you that you catch the egg. I conceived dd3 with 3 attempts in fertile period so I really think diet & lifestyle is the biggest sway factor. Try not to stress too much. It's easier said than done though.

I finally got my +opk today. Time to get busy from tonight onwards. I have had so much cm it's crazy.


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Laurenk1424
February 16th, 2016, 09:51 PM
Thanks farmgirl! Catch that egg!


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Princess Mom
February 16th, 2016, 10:14 PM
CD 7 here, no spotting this cycle! Yay I am so glad and praying it doesn't happen. I am still going for an ultrasound tomorrow just to be safe, I have a good feeling about this cycle! I am praying I get my healthy baby girl this cycle!

Best of luck ladies
So far I am just continuing my alcohol intake, by some wine coolers and wine etc I don't like getting drunk lol.
Also more coffee, I added alcohol to my sway since the new year.
No jellys this month or Zytrec just fiber and zinc and my iron that doc need me to be on. Gonna start BD tonight every 3 days

Laurenk1424
February 16th, 2016, 10:48 PM
Good luck princess! I had a corona with salt today! So good!


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Magical22
February 17th, 2016, 12:54 AM
Omg hurry up AF so frustrated I want to start my next FET if AF doesn't arrive in the next 3-4 days I'm going to have to wait another month or 2 to cycle because i will be away. Frustrated!!!
And yes I'm still getting BFNs!!!


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Pbn3
February 17th, 2016, 01:04 AM
Magical that's awful :( I really hope it shows in time hopefully tomorrow. Any signs of it coming? Do you get cramps or any other sign its on its way usually?

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Magical22
February 17th, 2016, 01:19 AM
Magical that's awful :( I really hope it shows in time hopefully tomorrow. Any signs of it coming? Do you get cramps or any other sign its on its way usually?

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No signs of her, [emoji17]


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Magical22
February 17th, 2016, 01:20 AM
Omg @quinn31 when are you going to test again, stalking stalking [emoji5]


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Honeybug
February 17th, 2016, 01:50 AM
Quinn - Eeee!! I cant wait to see your next test!

Lauren and farmgirl- good luck! My fingers are crossed this is (both) your months!

Princess - best of luck, I am just a couple of days behind you (cd5). fx for you!

Magical - So strange.....did you perhaps o later than you thought? I hope you either get a blaring bfp or af, asap!

Magical22
February 17th, 2016, 02:58 AM
I have had long cycles in the past, never more then 35 days, I'm 32 at the moment. FX it shows up


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Quinn31
February 17th, 2016, 05:56 AM
Hey ladies. It seems like today's is darker. It's the one on the bottom. I took a digital and it didn't work! I also took a wondfo and it actually seems darker than when I had my chemical. I guess I just have to wait for my bets on Friday for the real results. I'm so nervous because I have zero cramps. My only symptoms are peeing a lot and being tired. http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160217/1fbd9c8ad446b64bf22d7e936c885c67.jpg


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Quinn31
February 17th, 2016, 06:03 AM
Magical I hope you start soon. Have you looked up ways to induce af? I'm not sure what that would be but I'm sure it exists, lol.

Lauren I also conceived my dd with 4 attempts and one was an IUI. I really think lifestyle is huge. It's funny because now that I'm swaying it makes sense to me which girls have boys or girls based on what they eat and do for workouts and stuff.

Good luck farmgirl. I like seeing more blue swayers. It seems like everyone has a boy already!

Princess I'm jealous drinking is good for your sway. I'd love to get drunk every night for a good cause.


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Quinn31
February 17th, 2016, 06:15 AM
Okay one more. The top is from my chemical in December and the bottom is from this morning. The bad thing is I don't know if there is anything from the trigger left. Last time it was out by day 13 and today is 14 so I hope I'm safe. Can I relax a little?http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160217/c05ad8b9b26ea7915dcbb9fe63b13e53.jpg


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XXforhubby
February 17th, 2016, 06:35 AM
You sure can relax a little sweetie! You have a sticky bean growing in there! I'm gonna drop off more blue, baby dust for you [emoji597][emoji92][emoji170][emoji843][emoji170][emoji94]!!

I'm so happy for you [emoji4]!!!


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Pbn3
February 17th, 2016, 07:27 AM
Congratulations Quinn!!! Cant wait until you get your bw confirmation so you can relax alot!!

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maidentomother
February 17th, 2016, 07:32 AM
Lauren, as essnce suggested, if you have one (or more) day when your OPKs are clearly the darkest - that looks like yesterday, so far - I would consider just that day positive, not the others.

I don't agree with Pbn3's comment that you now know that those crappy pink OPKs are accurate. I definitely don't think they would be matching up with the FR OPKs if you'd started testing earlier. Your lines on the FR OPKs are VERY dark though, and I do wonder if you have PCOS tendencies, especially since you O late at least some of the time. Irregular cycles csn suggest PCOS, too. I'd get tested if you don't get a BFP this month, and maybe consider switching to the PCOS version of the LE diet. You are exercising, right?

Farmgirl, yay for EWCM! Go catch that egg!

Magical, maybe try drinking fresh parsley tea? I've used it to bring on AF before.

Quinn, I definitely think that is a strong, sticky bean! Congrats! Beautiful lines :)

My AF has been the heaviest and most painful it's been in YEARS. Thankfully it is better today, CD3. It makes me wonder about my lining...hopefully a nice strong bleed is just what I need. I ran out of ibuprofen and it's not sold except at pharmcies with limited hours, plus it's expensive and sold in cartons of just 20. I'd never have run out in the US. Pure helll. :(

Pbn3
February 17th, 2016, 07:37 AM
Hi maiden I meant the opk comment as in at least she knew she was definately getting a pos opk (as in fr brand) and not just a false positive on the others. I don't recommend any particular brand strips as I don't use them :)

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ksmom
February 17th, 2016, 08:44 AM
Quinn I really think you're pregnant!! :D Can't wait for your blood test results! :bluecheer:

Good luck Farmgirl and Princess Mom!

I hope AF arrives soon Magical. Sorry it's so frustrating for you. :(

I'm sorry you're not feeling well Maiden. AF is never any fun. I hope you're able to get some relief soon.

So I have my RE appointment next week and I'm a little nervous! Quick question: how do I explain to the RE why I'm not taking prenatal vitamins? I'm afraid of getting scolded for not taking them when I've had three losses but I don't exactly want to say I'm swaying either.

Magical22
February 17th, 2016, 08:46 AM
Wow Quinn that's a BFP huge congratulations!!

Maiden interesting parsley tea, I might give that a try I'm willing to try anything at the moment!! I hope AF eases up soon.

Farmgirl happy bedding!


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Magical22
February 17th, 2016, 08:48 AM
Quinn I really think you're pregnant!! :D Can't wait for your blood test results! :bluecheer:

Good luck Farmgirl and Princess Mom!

I hope AF arrives soon Magical. Sorry it's so frustrating for you. :(

I'm sorry you're not feeling well Maiden. AF is never any fun. I hope you're able to get some relief soon.

So I have my RE appointment next week and I'm a little nervous! Quick question: how do I explain to the RE why I'm not taking prenatal vitamins? I'm afraid of getting scolded for not taking them when I've had three losses but I don't exactly want to say I'm swaying either.

Swaying or not I believe atomic still says you must take folate. I don't think that will effect your sway. [emoji5]


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momamia4
February 17th, 2016, 09:05 AM
Yay Quinn!!!!!! [emoji322] [emoji322] [emoji322] [emoji322] [emoji322] [emoji322] [emoji322] [emoji322] [emoji322] [emoji322]

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momamia4
February 17th, 2016, 09:08 AM
Ksmom, mine didn't ask if I was taking vitamins. I think they just assume you are. And, like magical said, you need to take folate. If you think it might be causing your miscarriages you could try adding in a vitamin 3 days a week. How long have you been swaying again? (sorry for my crappy memory)

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ksmom
February 17th, 2016, 09:13 AM
Swaying or not I believe atomic still says you must take folate. I don't think that will effect your sway. [emoji5]


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I'm taking folate, iodine, and iron so I'm not avoiding vitamins completely. I guess I'm just worried about the doctor asking why I'm not taking a prenatal vitamin if I'm actively TTC.

ksmom
February 17th, 2016, 09:16 AM
Ksmom, mine didn't ask if I was taking vitamins. I think they just assume you are. And, like magical said, you need to take folate. If you think it might be causing your miscarriages you could try adding in a vitamin 3 days a week. How long have you been swaying again? (sorry for my crappy memory)

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I've been swaying since May last year. I had been taking 800 mcg folic acid but after my first loss, Atomic said to take 1600 mcg then after the second loss, she had me take 2000 mcg folate which I've been on since December. I wouldn't be surprised if I have vitamin deficiencies from doing LE for so long especially since I'm vegetarian.

maidentomother
February 17th, 2016, 09:52 AM
Pbn3, I agree it's good that Lauren's latest two FR OPKs match the pink OPKs in terms of results, but that doesn't mean that any earlier pink OPKs weren't false positives. I just want to make it very clear that I don't consider that pink brand (Answer/big drugstore generic) trustworthy. I've seen the vast majority of women get days and days of false positives and/or very dark identical second lines. They don't reflect differences in LH level well at all. I also want to drive home the point that you can get the same result from different brands one day but not the next. This is especially true when LH levels are very high, as that will always yield a positive result. I hope that all makes sense! I have used every OPK I could get a hold of both here and in the US and seen hundreds of women use a variety of brands and it is amazing how much OPK sensitivity, reliability and accuracy can vary.

ksmom, thanks. <3 Like Momamia said, you probably won't be asked if you're taking vitamins, it will be assumed that you are. If they outright ask, you could either lie or say you haven't been goid about taking them (not a lie) and ask to have your B12, iron/ferritin, and vitamin D levels tested, those being your most likely deficiencies. Do you eat many or any fortified foods? In the US, most wheat-based foods are fortified to some extent.

Laurenk1424
February 17th, 2016, 10:09 AM
Maiden- I do have very very mild pcos. How does that change the diet?
I do cardio 5 days a week for an hour or more. Will pcos effect Clomid potential or make me O later?


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ksmom
February 17th, 2016, 10:25 AM
Maiden, I don't eat any fortified foods. I have celiac so eating gluten free means a lot of rice based pastas and breads that don't have any added vitamins. I guess telling them I do take prenatals but not regularly isn't really a lie because with each loss, I took prenatal vitamins for the brief times I was pregnant.

maidentomother
February 17th, 2016, 10:27 AM
Lauren, I would have you switch to the PCOS version of the LE diet for sure then. We are now advising anyone who even suspects they might have PCOS tendencies to do the alternate diet. For one thing, you're best off only having whole grains (except for rice, white rice is fine) and you need a bit more fat and protein than on the standard LE.

It's fantastic that you're exercising. I believe cardio has an even stronger pink sway effect in those with PCOS/tendencies.

You may O later than average (CD18 or later on a CD3-7 regimen) on Clomid due to PCOS, or you may need a higher dose in order to O sooner. I think any pink swayer who has PCOS tendencies should take Clomid or Femara if they can get it bc the drugs have been shown to sway strongly pink for such women.

Laurenk1424
February 17th, 2016, 10:31 AM
Thank you! Due to working out, I've been upping my fat and protein a bit so I might b okay. If we don't get the egg, I will ask to up my dude. I'll take a OPK in a bit and hope they've faded. Maybe today is O day. That would make yesterday's early morning attempt good, although I didn't have hardly any ew left.


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maidentomother
February 17th, 2016, 10:36 AM
ksmom - honestly, I would get checked for those big 3 deficiencies then, unless you know that you are getting adequate amounts based on tracking your meals. Since iron and vitD deficiency can both cause fertility issues those would concern me especially. You may also not absorb as much of the nutrients you do consume due to celiac. How severe is your case?

As you probably know, rice based/GF foods like pasta and bread are MUCH less nutritious than the wheat versions, not only bc they aren't fortified but bc wheat has so many more nutrients than rice. Do you eat much fullfat dairy? Whole eggs? Nuts?

maidentomother
February 17th, 2016, 10:47 AM
Lauren, I'd still switch over fully to the PCOS LE, but I'm glad to hear that you've been eating more fat & protein anyway.

I do think you probably need a higher dose based on those dark OPKs, your cycle irregularity/tendency to O late, and just the fact that you haven't Oed yet on 50mg. Are you on CD17 or 18 today?

Re: EWCM, always keep in mind that if you see ANY amount of EWCM when wiping or on your panties, it means there is some at your cervical opening. Even when you seem dry there is usually CM up there around O time. And the CM at your cervix is what really matters, in terms of keeping sperm alive and odds of conception.

Laurenk1424
February 17th, 2016, 10:51 AM
I'm on cd18.... I'm totally vegetarian since being on LE. That prob doesn't help much.


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ksmom
February 17th, 2016, 11:05 AM
Maiden at the time of my diagnosis my symptoms were severe and I had quite a bit of intestinal damage but that was several years ago. My disease has been well under control since then as I've been very strict about eating gluten free.

I don't eat nuts but I do eat eggs every once in awhile (not very often though). For awhile I was eating full fat yogurt but I stopped. I don't really know why...I think I just got bored with it. lol I do occasionally eat cheese. My diet may just be too limited to the point of not getting what I need. DH thinks eating vegetarian isn't healthy for me so he's been saying I should eat meat again but I'm not sure if I want to or not.

maidentomother
February 17th, 2016, 11:59 AM
Lauren, I'd consider at least swapping out any lowfat/fat free dairy for full fat and eating 4 eggs a week in addition to switching to all whole grains (white rice being ok). If you're ok adding meat, have small servings of chicken up to 3x a week. I personally think it's extra protein, whole grains and plenty of fruit and veg that PCOS needs most.

ksmom, yeah, I'd 100% get those 3 deficiencies checked! And ask if there are any others that are commonly found in celiac patients. I don't necessarily think you need meat, as I know several healthy vegetarian celiacs, including women, but I do think you might increase your consumption of nutrient rich food like egg yolk, nuts, and full fat dairy. Just increase your daily minimums of fat & protein from the aforementioned 3 sources. Though you might also be a good candidate for the PCOS LE. I don't think it would hurt to switch and it may help if you do need extra nutrition.

I'm glad you've got the GF diet down. It's quite a change to make. I do 'almost' GF for DF and it's not easy. Or cheap!

Kmomofthree
February 17th, 2016, 12:32 PM
Congratulations Quinn :-) :-) looks promising!!

I'm finally 1dpo..... so let the waiting begin :-p

ksmom
February 17th, 2016, 12:53 PM
Thank you Maiden! I will definitely get my vitamin levels checked. I haven't really been tracking my totals since my last chemical and honestly my body could probably benefit from that since I was strict with the diet for so long. I'll incorporate eggs and nuts into my diet so hopefully that will help me get whatever nutrients I'm lacking. I'm going to look at the PCOS version later and see if I want to go with that instead. It may be better given how limited my diet was to start with.

I agree, going GF is not easy nor is it cheap!! Our grocery bill can get out of hand at times with all the specialty items I have to buy. As of late, I've been trying to buy things like rice pasta in bulk to save money. GF bread is way overpriced for what you get but I'm forced to buy it as I'm no good at making my own. At least rice is cheap. haha

Good luck Kmomofthree! Baby dust to you :)

Princess Mom
February 17th, 2016, 02:17 PM
CD 8 today! I have a ton of cm this cycle! Seems my cycle is back to normal since m/c. Yay! I can't wait to be pregnant again! I just want off this diet, seriously it sucks lol. I miss meat! Now my husband been not having red meat, because medical issues, he been complaining haha, but he doing good, we also been having wine with dinner. I been having alcohol daily since Janaury.

Princess Mom
February 17th, 2016, 02:19 PM
Congrats quinn

Princess Mom
February 17th, 2016, 02:20 PM
I think taking parental 3x a week wouldn't hurt

Kmomofthree
February 17th, 2016, 02:41 PM
CD 8 today! I have a ton of cm this cycle! Seems my cycle is back to normal since m/c. Yay! I can't wait to be pregnant again! I just want off this diet, seriously it sucks lol. I miss meat! Now my husband been not having red meat, because medical issues, he been complaining haha, but he doing good, we also been having wine with dinner. I been having alcohol daily since Janaury.

Amen.

I WANT TO EAT MEAT !!

Laurenk1424
February 17th, 2016, 02:45 PM
Dude. Me too. So so so badly. I can't wait to buy some filets and let's hubs know we're expecting!


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cmiller1
February 17th, 2016, 03:27 PM
Me three:)
So I should be ovulating within the next few days! This am we dtd and now I just had a little blood when going to the bathroom!? I've never had this before?

cmiller1
February 17th, 2016, 03:31 PM
I'm scared I feel like I'm getting Aunt Flo again ! It was shorter last month:(

momamia4
February 17th, 2016, 03:32 PM
Cmiller1, sometimes ovulation can cause a bit of bleeding or maybe DH bumped your cervix while dtd. I think you'll be fine!! :)

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essnce629
February 17th, 2016, 03:38 PM
Oh wow Quinn, that dollar test is definitely darker today! Where's the FRER test??????

ksmom
February 17th, 2016, 03:48 PM
Oh man a steak sounds sooo good. I was practically drooling yesterday making bacon for DH and the kids. lol

essnce629
February 17th, 2016, 03:49 PM
Ksmom, I agree with Maiden and would totally switch over to the PCOS diet, bring back chicken and white fish, and get tested for all the vitamin deficiencies that she mentioned. When I had my miscarriage I got tested immediately since I didn't feel right (depressed, cold all the time, out of breath, sleeping/napping all the time). After being on the LE diet for just 7 months and off of all vitamins except folate for a year, I was extremely iron deficient (as in should have had a blood transfusion!) and also deficient in magnesium and vitamin D as well (when I had always taken magnesium and vitamin D daily). And this is with eating meat the entire time and taking iron 3 days a week for the last few months! I had cut down on my red meat and salmon intake, but was still eating chicken, white fish, and pork on a regular basis (just 1/2 serving sizes). Having extremely heavy periods for the past decade since having DS1 and then the miscarriage didn't help. My ferritin (iron stores) was an 8 and ideal for a woman is 70-90. Low ferritin and anemia are common in celiacs as well (my FIL has celiac disease and my DS1 has the gene and is gluten free). Even now, over a year after my miscarriage and despite taking super high dose prescription iron (over 300mg a day) my ferritin is only at 46! It did get up to 69 at one point but every period seems to knock my iron stores out so I constantly feel like I'm in a battle that I can't win! Low iron causes low egg quality, which is exactly what you don't want. My best friend is a vegetarian and has low iron as well. Her ferritin is at 30 though since she doesn't have crazy heavy periods like me and she's currently pregnant so she can work on bringing her levels up without losing them to her period every month.

maidentomother
February 17th, 2016, 04:34 PM
cmiller, high estrogen levels leading up towards O cause the cervix to soften and become more irritable. That causes spotting and is actually quite common, as well as totally normal.

essnce, that's a scary story! I wonder if you are like me in terms of iron? For some reason I just don't absorb iron properly unless it's from red meat. I've tried every iron supplement in existence over the past 2 decades with zero luck, they do nothing at all for my iron level. Only eating 1-2 good sized servings of red meat per month keeps my anemia away. Maybe your supplemental iron isn't enough?

essnce629
February 17th, 2016, 04:45 PM
Maiden, I think I absorb it but have to be good about splitting up the doses. You're not supposed to take iron supplements with dairy or coffee, which was hard so I was taking all my iron at night before bed and I probably wasn't able to absorb it all. My endo wants me taking it 3 times a day. I'm on prescription Ferrex Plus which includes vitamin C. I tried it first thing in the morning since I don't eat or drink anything till at least 11am, but then I got nauseous. So I basically have 3 weeks to get it increased before my period comes and knocks my iron stores out again. It's like 2 steps forward, 1 step back. So I'm going to try really hard to take it 3 times a day and we'll retest again in 3 months like always. And I'm definitely eating red meat again since my miscarriage. I probably eat it twice a week, usually in the form of ground beef. The steaks I save for after O! When my iron was super low (under 8) I was craving crayons and literally eating a crayon a day! It was bad! I've had the crayon craving at least 3 times over the past decade so my iron has probably been chronically low forever. Ideally I would go back on the pill and have super light periods and build up my iron stores, but that's obviously not in the plan! I'm hoping to not feel exhausted all the time once my ferritin is over 70.

Princess Mom
February 17th, 2016, 05:10 PM
I had an ultrasound done today to see why I was spotting last cycle not anymore this cycle, I'm on cd 8 af came 3 days early this cycle.
I do have a left ovary cyst which I get sometimes I had them with all my pregnancies.

But doc said my lining seem a little thick to be on cd 8 and isn't sure if something on lining a plyop or not, I'm so sad!! She said if I don't get pregnant this cycle they are doing an ultrasound with water? Next cycle to see more clear. I never had an ultrasound without being pregnant so I'm not sure if that normal for me or not. I did have miscarriage in October, I always get pregnant quickly.

Anyone have any experience with this

maidentomother
February 17th, 2016, 05:56 PM
essnce, I never realised how lucky I am to have short, light AFs. Thank you for giving me that appreciation. I hope you get your girl soon so you can stop menstruating.

Princess, I have no clue I'm sorry. :(

Princess Mom
February 17th, 2016, 06:20 PM
Lining is 9.6mm which if find but she said it not as smooth as suppose to be and referring to heterogeneous totally confused

ksmom
February 17th, 2016, 07:35 PM
Thank you so much for all the advice ladies! :happy:

Essnce, wow! I'm so sorry you've been struggling with your iron levels like that. I can't imagine! Last month Atomic had me start on iron because I was feeling more tired than usual and was getting lightheaded. I've been taking it every day since then and those symptoms have eased up a lot so it's likely I am iron deficient. When I was pregnant with DS2 I had my iron levels checked and they were perfect BUT I was definitely eating red meat, lots of dark leafy greens since I craved them, and a prenatal with extra iron in it. That was also a few years ago so obviously my iron levels can change in that time.

Princess Mom
February 17th, 2016, 08:10 PM
Anyone ever have uterine fibroids or pylops?
I'm only 28 and I was just recently pregnant why would I have this?
Doc said to wait till next cycle to do saline ultrasound to see if there are any present, why wouldn't she done that this cycle?

Laurenk1424
February 17th, 2016, 08:44 PM
Princess I've never had that but I would definitely call and ask why it couldn't have been done at this visit.

AFM- super sticky cm today and my OPK went negative so I'm really hoping for O tonight. That would give it attempt about 36 hrs.


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pinkin2011
February 17th, 2016, 09:06 PM
29933

Hi girls. I am cd13 i took clomid days 5 to 9. Do you think my opk looks positive? Hubby is away until Saturday

farmgirl33
February 17th, 2016, 09:44 PM
Sorry that some of you are having problems with low iron, it's not fun feeling tired & yucky.

Princess - sorry I've never had uterine polyps or fibroids. Hope dr can get to the bottom of whatever is going on. Sucks you have to wait until next cycle, but like Lauren said maybe call & ask them or make another appointment to request it be done asap.

Lauren - sounds like you have o'd or will today.

Pinkin - looks positive to me.

My opk is negative today. Sometimes it is pos 2 days in a row & then I o the day it goes negative. We bd last night but not this morning, kids were up too early. I am hoping dh can call in between jobs today so we can bd, but otherwise it won't be until tonight. Was really hoping I would o tomorrow. If I o today it will only be 2 attempts. Haven't been exercising much & I haven't been snacking as much as I am starting to stress about my weight. But what is done is done & I can't change it now.


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purple
February 17th, 2016, 10:44 PM
When do you normally ovulate from clomid pinkin? It is possible to ovulate cd14 when the last dose was cd9 but it could also be a false positive. Those ovuplan tests are also quite sensitive. Hopefully you will ovulate a bit later with hubby away!!

pinkin2011
February 17th, 2016, 10:56 PM
I ovulated cd 18 the first month and cd17 last month. I dont usually ovulate until the test line is darker then control line. When i see that happen then im about 24hrs away. Cd 13 my lines have never been this dark after taking the clomid. I assume i might ovulate day 16?? I found out before hubby will be home tomorrow

purple
February 17th, 2016, 10:59 PM
Yeah maybe it is getting earlier each cycle as the clomid builds up? That is great hubby will be home tomorrow!

pinkin2011
February 17th, 2016, 11:01 PM
It could be! I am on my 3rd cycle. Yeah im glad he will be home wont be as stressed

farmgirl33
February 18th, 2016, 12:07 AM
Pinkin - awesome that hubby will be home tomorrow.

Dh called in for lunch & we bd so feeling much better now. Will bd again tonight, so will have my 3 attempts. I think if I don't get a bfp this cycle then I will talk to dh & see if he is willing to drop shettles timing completely. If we just bd eod - e3d throughout my cycle then I don't have to stress as much when I get +opk if we miss a morning attempt.


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pinkin2011
February 18th, 2016, 01:01 AM
He is coming home Saturday so 6 day abstain and possibly only 1 attempt complete opposite of what i wanted but oh well cant do a thing about ir

Laurenk1424
February 18th, 2016, 10:13 AM
Temp Rise!!!!! Yay! I even had to get up with ds in the middle of the night but I forced myself back to sleep haha


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momamia4
February 18th, 2016, 10:24 AM
Yay, Lauren! :D

I'm really frustrated. I ended up throwing up shortly after taking my clomid last night, so that was a totally wasted dose. I'm not sure what exactly is making me so nauseous but I'm really fed up with it. Argh!!! I hope that doesn't impact this cycle too much. :(

Laurenk1424
February 18th, 2016, 10:25 AM
Thanks momamia!

That's awful that your not feeling well. I hope it goes smoother today :/


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momamia4
February 18th, 2016, 10:27 AM
Thanks, Lauren! I do too!

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Quinn31
February 18th, 2016, 11:42 AM
I got my first beta back. 216 at 14dpo! Hopefully everything doubles by Saturday.


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momamia4
February 18th, 2016, 11:45 AM
Yay!!! Congrats!!! That's so exciting! :D

maidentomother
February 18th, 2016, 11:53 AM
pinkin, I think the Clomjd effect is building over time as purple suggested and you may indeed O sooner. I hope not too much sooner though. Are you temping?

Lauren, post your chart! It does sound like you've Oed.

Momamia, can you not get Femara? It just seems you don't tolerate Clomid well which I understand bc I had a hard time on it too. I hope you absorbed most ofcthe dose before you vomited.

Farmgirl, I think EOD is great for blue.

Princess, I also have never had polyps or fibroids, though I know the latter are common in older women. I hope you get some answers.

maidentomother
February 18th, 2016, 11:54 AM
Quinn that's amazing!

momamia4
February 18th, 2016, 12:03 PM
maiden, depending on the results of my hsg, I'm going to request Femara for next cycle.

essnce629
February 18th, 2016, 12:43 PM
I got my first beta back. 216 at 14dpo! Hopefully everything doubles by Saturday.


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Congrats Quinn! Great numbers!

Quinn31
February 18th, 2016, 12:43 PM
Thanks ladies. I'm still nervous but hopeful. I'm really sick of drinking V8 and coconut water every day!


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Laurenk1424
February 18th, 2016, 01:12 PM
Here's my chart maiden :)
I'm hopeful timing was good but who knows.
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maidentomother
February 18th, 2016, 01:18 PM
Lauren, that's perfect timing! Beautiful temp rise.

Laurenk1424
February 18th, 2016, 01:19 PM
Lauren, that's perfect timing! Beautiful temp rise.

Yay! Now is the hard part... The tww. I keep promising myself I'm not going to symptom guess the entire time. It's torture.


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ksmom
February 18th, 2016, 01:27 PM
Yay Quinn!!! SO happy for you!! :bluecheer:

Good luck Laurenk! Pink baby dust headed your way!

tfahn
February 18th, 2016, 01:57 PM
Congrats Quinn, thats a great HCG number for 14 DPO. Twins Maybe??? LOL

Was your dose of Clomid this month 150?

Kmomofthree
February 18th, 2016, 02:35 PM
Is it normal to get post ovulation cramping on a clomid cycle? I had it last cycle too.... it's a little annoying..... like it makes me want to hope but since I had it last cycle I know better now... kind of rude.

Quinn31
February 18th, 2016, 02:53 PM
Congrats Quinn, thats a great HCG number for 14 DPO. Twins Maybe??? LOL

Was your dose of Clomid this month 150?

Yes, I took 150mg and had two follicles at 25 and 24.

I don't think it's twins because with my last dd at 15dpo I was at 331 so this seems to be on track with that. I just really hope it's a ds!!!!! [emoji120][emoji120] dh is already making comments


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tfahn
February 18th, 2016, 03:15 PM
I will keep my fingers crossed it's a healthy sticky boy in their for you Quinn. Is DH the one hoping for a boy? My DH has no preference, he would just like another baby. I am the one that would like a boy, but will be OK if its a girl; I will just be ecstatic to have another baby after trying for so long although I will be a little sad if I don't get to use my boy name that I love. Guess I can always get a boy dog and use it on him if I have another girl:)

Were you using Mucinex or Baby aspirin at all?

maidentomother
February 18th, 2016, 03:45 PM
Kmom, I think cramping at any point is pretty common on Clomid, though I personally didn't have any. I had a ton the cycle before last on FSH injections, mostly after O. Really bad ones on 2dpo in particular. I wasn't pregnant obviously. I also had cramping after O in a few of my cycles on Vitex. It could be due to higher P levels I think.

farmgirl33
February 18th, 2016, 03:53 PM
Yay Quinn, fx for a sticky boy in there.

So after my worry of bding yesterday looks like I'm still going to o today anyway lol. Had a bit of a temp dip this morning so didn't o yesterday. Bd last night & will again tonight just in case.


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pinkin2011
February 18th, 2016, 03:58 PM
Wow Quinn!! Awesome news!! You must be so excited! xo

I tested late last night and my opk was a little lighter but i drank ALIT yesterday . I will do another opk today but my guess is i will ovulate sunday. Its friday here now. Feeling a little crampy tho i must admit i feel awesome this month on the clomid. 3rd cycle of it...

Pbn3
February 18th, 2016, 04:21 PM
Wonderful news quinn!! Cant wait for your next update! Sticky blue dust!

Yay for temp spike Lauren and your timing looks fantastic!

That's great you can get the extra attempts in farmgirl!

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Quinn31
February 18th, 2016, 05:49 PM
I will keep my fingers crossed it's a healthy sticky boy in their for you Quinn. Is DH the one hoping for a boy? My DH has no preference, he would just like another baby. I am the one that would like a boy, but will be OK if its a girl; I will just be ecstatic to have another baby after trying for so long although I will be a little sad if I don't get to use my boy name that I love. Guess I can always get a boy dog and use it on him if I have another girl:)

Were you using Mucinex or Baby aspirin at all?

Yup I took mucinex because I was on clomid. I also had an IUI so not sure if it mattered. We dtd a lot before and after. I didn't do baby aspirin.


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Laurenk1424
February 18th, 2016, 05:53 PM
PBN- thanks! I'm probably crazy, but my OPKs are still really dark today. Lol.


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tfahn
February 18th, 2016, 06:17 PM
Maybe your releasing a second egg?

Laurenk1424
February 18th, 2016, 06:22 PM
Maybe your releasing a second egg?

Is that a thing? Like a possibility ? I want to be pregnant so badly but the thought of twins kinda makes me wanna run the other way haha


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tfahn
February 18th, 2016, 06:27 PM
Did the OPK ever fade out or have they stayed positive. I'me not sure how likely a second egg release is, I know it's a possibly but I'm sure it's rare.

Laurenk1424
February 18th, 2016, 06:40 PM
Did the OPK ever fade out or have they stayed positive. I'me not sure how likely a second egg release is, I know it's a possibly but I'm sure it's rare.


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maidentomother
February 18th, 2016, 06:58 PM
Lauren, those look like classic PCOS/high LH OPKs. I wouldn't be too concerned about multiples on just 50mg Clomid. It's always possible but not a high chance. And a long surge does NOT mean you are releasing more eggs, it's actually associated with a lower rate of multiples if anything. I released 2 eggs last month on 50 g Clomid (but I release 2 eggs naturally 1/4 of the time anyway), and I had the fastest surge I've ever observed. I barely even caught it.

Laurenk1424
February 18th, 2016, 07:03 PM
Thanks Maiden. Does the amount of positive OPKs I'm getting mean a decreased chance of pregnancy?


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maidentomother
February 18th, 2016, 07:08 PM
pinkin, so jealous you feel great on Clomid. How!?

farmgirl, yay for extra attempts.

Lauren, I doubt your long/strong surge decreases chance of pregnancy, but I do think you'd benefit from a a full 100mg of Clomid or 5mg Femara, even better. The fact that your surge is still so long on Clomid & Oing on the late side suggests it's too low a dose IMO. But it's definitely still an improvement over a natural cycle and I think you have an excellent shot at a BFP this month. I will be surprised if you don't get one, in fact.

Quinn31
February 18th, 2016, 07:43 PM
I will keep my fingers crossed it's a healthy sticky boy in their for you Quinn. Is DH the one hoping for a boy? My DH has no preference, he would just like another baby. I am the one that would like a boy, but will be OK if its a girl; I will just be ecstatic to have another baby after trying for so long although I will be a little sad if I don't get to use my boy name that I love. Guess I can always get a boy dog and use it on him if I have another girl:)

Were you using Mucinex or Baby aspirin at all?

I have a boy name I want to use too! Dh is the one that really wants the boy. I actually don't care other than wanting to use a name and experience raising a boy too. He cried when we found out dd was a girl. It was a really stressful pregnancy for me after that. This time I want him to find out but I'm not going to. That way he can deal with it on his own.


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Laurenk1424
February 18th, 2016, 07:49 PM
I hope you're right Maiden... I've never looked into Femera. My dr did give me 3 months worth of Clomid and suggested in month two to double to 100mg if we weren't successful the first month. I really was hoping my pcos had magically vanished after losing weight and symptoms but I guess not.


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maidentomother
February 18th, 2016, 08:08 PM
Quinn, I'm so sorry to hear that about your DH. I can't imagine how you must have felt. Whatis your boy name?

Lauren, 100mg Clomid should make quite a difference, if you don't conceive this month like I bet you will. It is possible that you need to do the PCOS version of LE to completely get rid of PCOS. But I would also guess that all the time spent dieting & doing exercise has greatly improved your PCOS, especially if your symptoms seem gone. There isn't that much more you could do. I say well done!

farmgirl33
February 18th, 2016, 08:22 PM
I have a boy name I want to use too! Dh is the one that really wants the boy. I actually don't care other than wanting to use a name and experience raising a boy too. He cried when we found out dd was a girl. It was a really stressful pregnancy for me after that. This time I want him to find out but I'm not going to. That way he can deal with it on his own.


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Same here Quinn. I would enjoy the experience of having a boy but either way would feel connected from the beginning. Dh wants a boy so badly. He was very disappointed when we found out dd3 was another girl & I felt he didn't really connect much with my pregnancy like he would have if she was a boy. It was only once he saw her & held her that I felt the love he had for her. But sometimes I can see how much he longs for a son. When I do get pregnant & we can find out the gender we will be as I need him to deal with any disappointment if it's a girl before the birth. I will be finding as well out as I will be able to tell by his emotions anyway. Fx we get our boys & we don't have to worry about it.


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tfahn
February 18th, 2016, 10:53 PM
I hope this bean is a boy Quinn. that's a lot of pressure to put on you for something you really don't have a whole lot of control over. I'm sure you will be able to tell by his reactions what the sex is if only he finds out.

My DH is not a fan of swaying, thinks you should just let natures take its course. Luckily boy sways increase fertility which is what I need so I can atleast increase my chances for a boy. :)

Princess Mom
February 18th, 2016, 10:53 PM
I'm gonna do a few attempts this cycle, I'm totally freaked out about this situation I am having. I was talking to a lady who Doctor also thought that her lining was too thickened and that there were polyps present, but there weren't! So hopefully that the case, I just don't fit the symptoms and most ladies who get them have issue getting pregnant, which I haven't ever had

Nann3r
February 19th, 2016, 02:28 AM
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Been hanging on to my opks cuz I started testing earlier than normal. Just to ensure I don't miss ovulation. Got a pretty solid positive today I think. I took it though at like 12:05am on CD14.. But I put it with CD13 cuz I forgot to test CD13 morning. We'll see how many more positives I get from here on out. Normally I get two +opks then a negative. Here goes nothing!

Sorry I've been MIA. Busy week and then for some reason I haven't been getting notifications about this feed. So I'm way out of the loop!

Pbn3
February 19th, 2016, 02:36 AM
Hi nann! Good to hear from you! I was going to say wow what a jump from cd12 to cd13 then I read your message lol. So have you started your attempts or were you doing an every ? day pattern?

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Nann3r
February 19th, 2016, 02:37 AM
Just being doing EOD for now. Should we go ahead and go every day now that I have a positive opk? What do boy mommies recommend??

Pbn3
February 19th, 2016, 02:49 AM
Hmmm with ds1 I had no idea about any of this and just dtd as much as possible in fertile window as per online calculator (think I dtd four out of five days or something similar) Ds2 I'd started charting, using opks etc and I'm pretty sure that 'week' I was doing eod and then I'm sure I ended up with having a 1-o attempt in the evening and an AM attempt morning of o (threw in the morning attempt as had a pos opk the day b4) I would just just get in what attempts you can. If that's your first of two pos opks (that you usually get) I'd switch to every day now plus throw in an AM attempt the morning after second pos opk just for extra :) that's just what I would do though as its my understanding there's no such thing as to many attempts after pos opk when swaying boy. If you can get three attempts in from pos opk to o then that's fantastic! Good luck!

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farmgirl33
February 19th, 2016, 08:52 AM
Nann - I'd be going for the 3 attempts after positive opk now, so yeah every day plus a morning attempt like pbn suggested. I have my fx for you


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Quinn31
February 19th, 2016, 10:01 AM
That's how it was with us. He loves her dearly but I know he wants a son and has said it! People think he's a jerk for wanting a boy but I understand. I always wanted a girl and would probably feel like him if we had two boys.

I know I'll be able to tell but I'm going to pretend I don't. [emoji6] He can discuss it with other people. This is my last pregnancy and I want to enjoy it and just savor every second. I love being pregnant.


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Laurenk1424
February 19th, 2016, 11:07 AM
Nann- with ds we dtd a lot during the fertile period and I held my hips almost in a headstand for 5-10 mins each time. Haha


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momamia4
February 19th, 2016, 02:53 PM
I don't know what is different today but I feel freaking fantastic!!! :) How is everyone else doing?

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tfahn
February 19th, 2016, 04:05 PM
CD 8 today and taking my final pill of Clomid tonight; Excited to start testing for the big O. Since technically this is my first time on Clomid I'm hoping for good things this cycle. How many MG are you on this month Momamia? Are you doing the trigger shot again?

momamia4
February 19th, 2016, 04:11 PM
Yay, tfahn! All the waiting just kills me. Isn't it frustrating?! I'm on 100mg of clomid this cycle. Yes, I'm going to do the trigger again. He said something about trying a "secondary surge." I'm not sure what that is but if it gets me a bfp, I'm all for it!! :D

I was able to convince my doctor's office to bump my hsg to Tuesday! :D I'm so excited!!! I can't wait for the results! :)

tfahn
February 19th, 2016, 04:27 PM
Yes all the waiting kills me too!

Good luck on the HSG procedure next week, hopefully that helps with a bfp too. Will you have a follicle study done this month? My RE hasn't said anything about that for me yet, wonder when they start those?

Pbn3
February 19th, 2016, 04:31 PM
I don't know what is different today but I feel freaking fantastic!!! :) How is everyone else doing?

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This made me smile :) I'm at the early stages of testing. Ff has me at 9dpo but I think I'm only 8dpo. Bfn this morning but hoping that changes over the next couple days :)

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momamia4
February 19th, 2016, 04:46 PM
Tfahn, last cycle my doctor just had me come in on cd15 to see if I had any follicles that were mature. He originally didn't want to do the trigger shot but I insisted. This cycle he seems a little bit more inclined to be proactive. I think it's because I am officially a year passed my tubal reversal and not pregnant.

Yay, Pbn3!!! I can't wait!! My fingers are crossed so hard for you!!! :)

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Pbn3
February 19th, 2016, 05:16 PM
Magical has af shown up?? I've been thinking of you alot and hoping she has so you don't have to put fet off.

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pinkin2011
February 19th, 2016, 05:25 PM
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Todays opk . Hubby is about 3 hrs away. He has abstained for 6 days which has surprised me ha ha but im hoping that might help me this month.

momamia4
February 19th, 2016, 05:26 PM
Good luck, pinkin2011!!! :)

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Pbn3
February 19th, 2016, 05:27 PM
Happy bding pinkin!! 😉

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pinkin2011
February 19th, 2016, 05:29 PM
Ha ha thanks!!!

Quinn31
February 19th, 2016, 07:39 PM
Hey ladies, I have a question. Have any of you ever had dull pain low and to the right of the cervix in early pregnancy? It's not really painful but always there. I asked on another board and a couple people said it could be ligaments stretching but one girl said that ligaments aren't in the vagina area. This feels like it could possibly be the labia but it's only the right side. I'm obviously worried since any pain in the vagina during early pregnancy doesn't seem good.


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momamia4
February 19th, 2016, 09:11 PM
I haven't Quinn. Sorry I can't help.

So, I'm having ewcm and I'm only cd6! I've never had ewcm this early in my cycle. Do you think it's just from the clomid? I really hope I'm not going to O super early this cycle. I can't dtd unprotected until after my hsg, so it would be a completely wasted cycle.

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cmiller1
February 19th, 2016, 09:34 PM
Ok so I am doing the e4 days ! I am swaying for a girl! I don't want to ruin my chances since really best odds are 1 attempt! This is fourth month so I switched to every four days! I should be ovulating soon! Are you guys dtd the day of positive ovulation test and then the next day too? How's the every four days work if let's say you dtd then you ovulate two days later do you wait the 2 days? I don't want to miss it but also afraid of having two many attempts?

Pbn3
February 19th, 2016, 09:40 PM
Cmiller e4d is just e4d. You don't even need to use opks unless you want to have an idea when you o. The idea is you are still only having one attempt in fertile window. So no extra attempts as pos opk. Hope this helps :)

Quinn sorry I haven't had that eirher :( hope you find some answers.

Momamia hope someone can shed light on early ewcm. Never used clomid so I'm sorry but I have no idea :(

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farmgirl33
February 19th, 2016, 10:45 PM
Good luck pinkin.

Sorry Quinn I can't help with that type of pain either. Don't even remember the types of stretching pains I had in pregnancy.

Momamia - I've never been on Clomid so I'm not sure but I know I normally get days of fertile cm before getting a + opk & ovulating. But if it's un-usual for you then I'm not sure sorry.

Cmiller- I'm swaying boy so I'm no help, but my understanding of it is what pbn said.

Pbn - fx for a bfp in the next couple of days

Temp rose this morning so I should be 1dpo today.


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ksmom
February 19th, 2016, 11:05 PM
Momamia, I haven't taken Clomid before but I do often get a day or two of ewcm right after AF ends. Not sure why...maybe a spike in estrogen?

momamia4
February 19th, 2016, 11:25 PM
I sure hope so ksmom!! :)

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Magical22
February 20th, 2016, 06:14 AM
Omg so happy to get AF I'm not in limbo anymore I needed AF by tomorrow to do my next FET and it arrived 7pm tonight on cd35 just in time! Phew!!

So relieved!!


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Pbn3
February 20th, 2016, 06:17 AM
Thabk god magical! I was stressing out for you!! Wonderful news!! (As wonderful news as af can get lol)

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momamia4
February 20th, 2016, 09:44 AM
Yay, magical!!! :)

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Quinn31
February 20th, 2016, 10:48 AM
Second beta was 495 so doubled from 216! I'm still extremely nervous but trying to be as positive as possible.

Good luck to everyone. I really hope I'm not back ttc here again but I wish the best for you all. I hope no one gets stuck ttc as long as I did either. I'll keep the prayers and good thoughts going for all of us!! [emoji120]


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Princess Mom
February 20th, 2016, 01:44 PM
Doc left me a message and told me if I don't get pregnant this cycle, then next cycle when we do saline ultrasound if there is a polyp she will remove it right after no waiting. So I'm glad, she also said she isn't for sure it is a polyp or it might be left over tissue hanging around from my miscarriage. Since I'm having no spotting anymore, she said go ahead and try this cycle, if I get pregnant then we don't have to worry.

CD 11 first day of flashy smile. Cycle is so normal this time, last month was so crazy

Princess Mom
February 20th, 2016, 01:45 PM
Second beta was 495 so doubled from 216! I'm still extremely nervous but trying to be as positive as possible.

Good luck to everyone. I really hope I'm not back ttc here again but I wish the best for you all. I hope no one gets stuck ttc as long as I did either. I'll keep the prayers and good thoughts going for all of us!! [emoji120]


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Those numbers are awesome best of luck to u and congrats!!

Princess Mom
February 20th, 2016, 01:46 PM
Hey ladies, I have a question. Have any of you ever had dull pain low and to the right of the cervix in early pregnancy? It's not really painful but always there. I asked on another board and a couple people said it could be ligaments stretching but one girl said that ligaments aren't in the vagina area. This feels like it could possibly be the labia but it's only the right side. I'm obviously worried since any pain in the vagina during early pregnancy doesn't seem good.


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Those pains are totally normal!! I also get them when I'm pregnant, no need to freak out, I even spot during pregnancy.

Kmomofthree
February 20th, 2016, 01:56 PM
Who all is waiting to test right now? Sorry I have a hard time keeping track!

What dpo are you and when do you plan to test?

I'm 4dpo and plan to hold out til 9dpo (that's when I got my BFP's with my last 2 pregnancies ).

Kmomofthree
February 20th, 2016, 01:57 PM
Also , I had a giant spike in my temp today, is that because I overslept and didn't temp in my usual time frame?

Nann3r
February 20th, 2016, 02:07 PM
http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160220/db49df3a5412a2c21962deb4adf6bd72.jpg

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Alright so I'm 1dpo today. According to FF..

I had intense pains yesterday afternoon/evening so maybe it was O pains? How does it look though?

Btw- our attempt on CD13 was at like midnight so it was technically CD14. Like between 13 and 14 anyway.

tfahn
February 20th, 2016, 03:30 PM
Huge congrats Quinn, really happy for you and DH.

Princess Mom
February 20th, 2016, 04:31 PM
Really hoping for a healthy baby girl, my DD is watching frozen and is telling me how badly she wants a sister lol so cute she been asking for 3 years now since I got pregnant with DS number 2

Pbn3
February 20th, 2016, 04:39 PM
Huge congratulations Quinn wonderful news!! Wishing you a h&h pregnancy :)

Good luck princess mom! So close to o now! I love frozen!! I made my ds1 watch it with me hahaha! I keep hoping when I ask him what he wants to watch he'll say 'frozen!' but he never does 😂

Nann looks like great timing! Fx for you! Will you do any temping now or leave it go?

Kmomofthree can you post a pic of your chart?

Afm - bfn at 9dpo (10dpo according to ff) but I'm waiting until tomorrow mornings test to rule myself out. Had one of those think I may see a hint of a 'proper' line but there one minute gone the next kind of test. Also now is around the time I start feeling af cramps if she's coming (12 day lt phase) so I may even start feeling them tonight though I'm hoping not lol! I've never had as much cramping and pinching in the ovary areas (mostly lh side) in my dpo's in any cycle I can remember!

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atomic sagebrush
February 20th, 2016, 04:49 PM
Really hoping for a healthy baby girl, my DD is watching frozen and is telling me how badly she wants a sister lol so cute she been asking for 3 years now since I got pregnant with DS number 2

Yeah I'd like to punch those "frozen" people in the face. Most sisters I know hate each other LOL.

Kmomofthree
February 20th, 2016, 05:16 PM
:bigsmile:Here it is PBN

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Kmomofthree
February 20th, 2016, 05:17 PM
Princess mom my oldest son asks for a sister too. No pressure though right? Lol

Magical22
February 20th, 2016, 05:24 PM
Congratulations again Quinn such amazing results!


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Pbn3
February 20th, 2016, 05:29 PM
Kmomofthree how long after your usual temp time did you temp? Also, there's nothing much to read into temps this soon after o. Pretty much 6dpo and onwards is when I start taking notice of what they are doing and mine never tell me much lol.

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pinkin2011
February 20th, 2016, 05:43 PM
Still have a positive opk and some pains happening . On to 2nd attempt! Thats me done for this month! FX for a bfp.

Kmomofthree
February 20th, 2016, 05:45 PM
It was an hour and 20 minutes! I totally forgot to set my alarm and just wasn't sure if that's what would cause it to be so much higher. Yeah i agree I'm very early in the 2ww so I wasn't reading into it but was just curious if the timing is what caused it :-)

Pbn3
February 20th, 2016, 05:46 PM
Kmomofthree I can get up to a difference of at least 0.1 if I take temp an hour later so definately possible the time difference has accentuated your spike :)

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essnce629
February 20th, 2016, 07:13 PM
Who all is waiting to test right now? Sorry I have a hard time keeping track!

What dpo are you and when do you plan to test?

I'm 4dpo and plan to hold out til 9dpo (that's when I got my BFP's with my last 2 pregnancies ).
I am 11dpo and planned to test at 12dpo if my temp stayed high. Unfortunately it has been dropping for the past 3 days so I will not test tomorrow unless it spikes back up. If it drops again then I will expect AF tomorrow.

momamia4
February 20th, 2016, 08:15 PM
Yay, Quinn!!! :)

FX af stays away, essnce!

I am feeling super bloated and having lots of achiness in my left ovary. I'm concerned it's a cyst. :/

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Nann3r
February 21st, 2016, 12:20 AM
Huge congratulations Quinn wonderful news!! Wishing you a h&h pregnancy :)

Good luck princess mom! So close to o now! I love frozen!! I made my ds1 watch it with me hahaha! I keep hoping when I ask him what he wants to watch he'll say 'frozen!' but he never does [emoji23]

Nann looks like great timing! Fx for you! Will you do any temping now or leave it go?

Kmomofthree can you post a pic of your chart?

Afm - bfn at 9dpo (10dpo according to ff) but I'm waiting until tomorrow mornings test to rule myself out. Had one of those think I may see a hint of a 'proper' line but there one minute gone the next kind of test. Also now is around the time I start feeling af cramps if she's coming (12 day lt phase) so I may even start feeling them tonight though I'm hoping not lol! I've never had as much cramping and pinching in the ovary areas (mostly lh side) in my dpo's in any cycle I can remember!

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I missed too many days so I don't feel it would be accurate anymore! So I'll just wait for AF to show or not show. I'm out of hcgs so I'm gonna keep it that way from here on out. Force myself to just wait!

Princess Mom
February 21st, 2016, 07:45 AM
Haha I have two sisters no brothers my older sis is 7 years older my younger is 3 years younger their my best friends! And all our daughters are also bffs. Of course they sometimes get on my nerves haha

cmiller1
February 21st, 2016, 09:49 AM
Pinkin2011

I'm in same boat as you! I was trying every four days last attempt was Wednesday! Yesterday morning I got my pos so we dtd I checked this am still pos! I am debating doing one more attempt but conflicted because I know best odds are 1 attempt for a girl! I am also having pains I thought my surge would be over this am as I had pains yesterday as well

Kmomofthree
February 21st, 2016, 12:29 PM
Cmiller I would definitely attempt again Wednesday was 4 days ago and if you just got a positive opk you may not O until tomorrow and your attempt wouldn't really be in your fertile window.

momamia4
February 21st, 2016, 12:53 PM
Cmiller1, I agree with kmomofthree

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momamia4
February 21st, 2016, 12:56 PM
My chart is so weird this cycle. I'm wondering if I was mouth breathing the night before last?

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tfahn
February 21st, 2016, 03:29 PM
I took my last Clomid pill Friday evening. Should I be safe to start with OPk's tomorrow or should I wait another day?

momamia4
February 21st, 2016, 03:34 PM
Monday would be fine according to what my RE tells me.

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tfahn
February 21st, 2016, 04:01 PM
That's what I thought Momamia, thanks. I think I'm scared of seeing a really positive OPK after what happened in my MC cycle. I also wish my temps would come down, they are what they usually are post O but I know Clomid effects temps so I'm trying to not overthink it.

momamia4
February 21st, 2016, 04:08 PM
Yeah. I just try to go with the flow. It's easier to do e3d with clomid than anything else. I always feel like the opks are lying to me. Lol! Having the trigger shot has taken all of the guess work out of it for me though.

I'm sorry for your stress and worry. Miscarriages are no fun and mess with your head. I'm still concerned about it and mine was in September.

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maidentomother
February 21st, 2016, 04:16 PM
I'm way behind but...Pbn3, I think you probably Oed 2 days later so please don't worry if you pull BFNs for a while.

tfahn, Clomid can keep temps high while taking it and for several days after, it did for me. I wouldn't test before Monday if not Tuesday, definitely not Sunday. I actually had lighter than usual OPKs on Clomid.

Good luck to everyone testing now/soon!

tfahn
February 21st, 2016, 04:16 PM
Yes a trigger shot sounds like the way to go, maybe I will try that if this cycle doesn't get me a BFP. I'm doing a boy sway so I kinda need the OPK's this month so I can do multiple attempts.

cmiller1
February 21st, 2016, 05:33 PM
I didn't type correctly I meant we attempted yesterday right when u got the positive! So day 3 I meant should I attempt again today as its still positive?

Kmomofthree
February 21st, 2016, 05:37 PM
Oh, if you attempted right at positive opk then I'd count that as one attempt and then not dtd again for 4 days. I think the first positive opk is the only one that matters.

cmiller1
February 21st, 2016, 05:47 PM
Thanks I'm just uncertain because this is our fourth month of trying every month I've done one attempt at pos opk! This month I tried the every four days but still tested just so I would know just worried because it will not be any different then my other attempts then since it was Wednesday and was not in my fertile window and then yesterday was right at the first sign of a pos ! So hard I just want to get preggo and get off this diet lol

pinkin2011
February 21st, 2016, 05:53 PM
Cmiller.. i had 2 attempts this month. Saturday and sunday. I will then dtd in another 2 days as i had a peak on my opk but then it went i still have not ovulated. Its so frustrating

maidentomother
February 21st, 2016, 05:54 PM
I agree with Kmom. Just stick to E4D. Maybe you've been Oing later than you think, cmiller?

cmiller1
February 21st, 2016, 05:56 PM
Thanks pinkin2011

I have not been temp charting I wish I did so I knew when I actually ovulate! I use the digital and I tested Friday night it was neg then sat morning smiley face so we attempted! I'm still getting a smiley so maybe we will attempt again tonight or tomorrow morning! I'm just worried about the one attempt being best for a girl! Ugh I just want to be preggo but I also don't want to ruin my girl sway:)

Laurenk1424
February 21st, 2016, 06:12 PM
I am 11dpo and planned to test at 12dpo if my temp stayed high. Unfortunately it has been dropping for the past 3 days so I will not test tomorrow unless it spikes back up. If it drops again then I will expect AF tomorrow.

I'm 4dpo too! Prob won't rest until 10dpo. Haven't had anything happening so I'm gonna take it as a good sign (every time I symptom check I'm not pregnant.)


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tfahn
February 22nd, 2016, 11:50 AM
CD11 today for me and temp is still up from taking Clomid. Took my first OPK for this cycle this morning and it was not positive which is good because I need to get some more BD attemmpts in since this month has been really busy for us.

Laurenk1424
February 22nd, 2016, 03:12 PM
So quiet today!


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Kmomofthree
February 22nd, 2016, 03:25 PM
:sigh::bigsmile:I'm just waiting around ...... trying not to symptom spot. 6 dpo......

Laurenk1424
February 22nd, 2016, 03:43 PM
:sigh::bigsmile:I'm just waiting around ...... trying not to symptom spot. 6 dpo......

Hahahha same here!! I will say that my chart is soooooo different this month. I usually have a huge drop two days after ovulation then a very slow gradual rise until AF.... My temp has stayed up so far FX. But again..... I'm not trying to read to much into it.
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momamia4
February 22nd, 2016, 03:49 PM
The 2ww takes forever, doesn't it? I go for my HSG tomorrow. I'm so excited!! I hope it cleans out all the cobwebs so I can finally get a sticky bean! :D I'm pretty confident that I'm going to O early this cycle. I've had a lot of ewcm today, which is really unusual for me on clomid but also unusual because I'm only cd9. I don't usually O until around cd20. If I O early, I'm most likely only going to get 1 good attempt in my fertile window. I had hoped for 2 but I can't dtd until the discharge stops after the HSG, which usually takes a day or two. That would put me at cd12 for earliest day to bd. FX I don't O until cd15 at the earliest. I would feel more confident Oing on cd15 for some reason. I really want to get pregnant this cycle. I'm assuming that I'm supposed to call my RE's office if I don't have a +opk on cd14 again this cycle. I hate that they don't spell everything out for me. I'd prefer something written telling me exactly what to do. They are very vague. :/

Laurenk1424
February 22nd, 2016, 03:51 PM
I HATE vagueness. lol I'm one of those people that asks a million questions until it's finally laid out 100%. I hope it works out that the HSG is exactly what you needed and it's your cycle to get preggo. FX.


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momamia4
February 22nd, 2016, 04:21 PM
I HATE vagueness. lol I'm one of those people that asks a million questions until it's finally laid out 100%. I hope it works out that the HSG is exactly what you needed and it's your cycle to get preggo. FX.

Thanks so much Lauren!! I hope this is your cycle too! :D Honestly, I hope everyone gets a BFP this cycle and the next cycle is all newbies. :D

maidentomother
February 22nd, 2016, 04:23 PM
Earlier O sounds very good IMO. I think it will happen for you on 100mg , Momamia.

I'm CD8 but I probably won't O until around CD18. I'll maybe start OPKing tomorrow or the next day. I can use my wonderful CBAD now that I'm not on any fertility meds. I should have started getting attempts in...hopefully soon. It is my 12th cycle TTC actively and I'll be 35 in less than a month so I'd like to do E3D...maybe more.

Laurenk1424
February 22nd, 2016, 04:24 PM
Maybe 12 is the lucky number Maiden. I'm hoping it is for me. This is my 12th month too.


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farmgirl33
February 22nd, 2016, 04:25 PM
Tfahn- Good luck with getting your attempts in before o.

Kmom & Lauren - fx for you. I too have told myself not to symptom spot this cycle.

Momamia- good luck with the hsg & hope you don't o too early.

Well I'm 4dpo today. Had to change ff to fam setting as it thought I o'd same day of +opk & that didn't look right to me. I'm sure I didn't o that day. Last cycle I had to change ff settings too as it had me o'ing 2 days earlier than I thought.

Laurenk1424
February 22nd, 2016, 04:26 PM
Farmgirl- my ff has me Oing a day earlier than I believe I did as well.


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tfahn
February 22nd, 2016, 04:41 PM
You definitely can O early on Clomid, on one of the cloth diaper boards I follow on facebook someone was asking about peoples Clomid experiences yesterday. One lady does not ovulate on her on, had to use Clomid for both her pregnancies. She said it took 200mg of clomid both times and both times she ovulated on CD11, she was taking the pills days 3-7, but I am guessing the amount of Clomid she was taking came into play with an early O. I was surprised one could O that early and I was kinda upset we haven't had any good BD attempts in yet, guess I need to work on that this week, hopefully DH is on board too.

momamia4
February 22nd, 2016, 04:50 PM
You definitely can O early on Clomid, on one of the cloth diaper boards I follow on facebook someone was asking about peoples Clomid experiences yesterday. One lady does not ovulate on her on, had to use Clomid for both her pregnancies. She said it took 200mg of clomid both times and both times she ovulated on CD11, she was taking the pills days 3-7, but I am guessing the amount of Clomid she was taking came into play with an early O. I was surprised one could O that early and I was kinda upset we haven't had any good BD attempts in yet, guess I need to work on that this week, hopefully DH is on board too.

My RE put me on clomid for two reasons: 1) to make me O earlier and 2) to make me produce more eggs in a cycle and offset my reduced odds of conception after the reversal. I am so bloated right now that I can definitely see Oing early in my future. Last month I was just as bloated as I am this cycle on the same cd. I guess it's just a s/e of the clomid, but last month I didn't have any ewcm until cd13 and I distinctly remember that it was only a tiny bit. This time on cd9, there is a lot of it. I don't start opk testing until tomorrow, so hopefully I'll catch the surge.

Lauren & Maiden, I'm on my 12th month too!!! But only my 10th cycle. :D

maidentomother
February 22nd, 2016, 04:59 PM
It is rare to O as early as CD11 after taking Clomid CD3-7, unless you naturally O early. I think 200mg played a big role, if she actually Oed that early which I wonder about. Was she getting scanned, temping, or what? Maybe she just assumed she Oed then due to false positive OPKs on CD9-10.

It's now been over 4 years since I began TTC, almost 4 since I was last pregnant. :( Looking at cycles of actively TTC is thus a lot less depressing. I wonder if I can even conceive while trying...

maidentomother
February 22nd, 2016, 05:01 PM
Lauren & farmgirl, FF assigns O prematurely all the time. Like more often than not these days. They've really messed up their algorithms. It drivesme crazy!

Princess Mom
February 22nd, 2016, 07:22 PM
Ladies I'm I too late? Temp drop yesterday so I always ovulate two days after which will be tmrw. Regular opk is now positive yesterday it wasn't but clear blue was pos and pos again today and so is first response opk.
The digi yesterday the line wasn't dark at all so strange, I think clear blue advanced is really sensitive.

Question is I hardly have ewcm it's water, it looks like now at around 5pm it turning almost ewcm. So I am gonna bd tonight couldn't yesterday becuz Hubby didn't feel well, we also BD 3 days ago or 4 so that out of question.

I hope I didn't miss the opportunity

Quinn31
February 22nd, 2016, 08:16 PM
The 2ww takes forever, doesn't it? I go for my HSG tomorrow. I'm so excited!! I hope it cleans out all the cobwebs so I can finally get a sticky bean! :D I'm pretty confident that I'm going to O early this cycle. I've had a lot of ewcm today, which is really unusual for me on clomid but also unusual because I'm only cd9. I don't usually O until around cd20. If I O early, I'm most likely only going to get 1 good attempt in my fertile window. I had hoped for 2 but I can't dtd until the discharge stops after the HSG, which usually takes a day or two. That would put me at cd12 for earliest day to bd. FX I don't O until cd15 at the earliest. I would feel more confident Oing on cd15 for some reason. I really want to get pregnant this cycle. I'm assuming that I'm supposed to call my RE's office if I don't have a +opk on cd14 again this cycle. I hate that they don't spell everything out for me. I'd prefer something written telling me exactly what to do. They are very vague. :/

Good luck momamia. I had a hsg this cycle and got pregnant and in 2013 I got pregnant with dd2 after a hsg.


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essnce629
February 22nd, 2016, 09:15 PM
13dpo for me and a temp drop to coverline today. Expecting full blown AF any second. I had spotting yesterday, but nothing today so far and it's 5pm. I never tested with a hpt since my temp has been dropping for the past 3 days.

Laurenk1424
February 22nd, 2016, 09:30 PM
Sorry essnce. I'll keep hope for this month... And if AF arrives I hope for a quick start to a new month for you.


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Princess Mom
February 22nd, 2016, 09:56 PM
Sorry :( ttc sucks

13dpo for me and a temp drop to coverline today. Expecting full blown AF any second. I had spotting yesterday, but nothing today so far and it's 5pm. I never tested with a hpt since my temp has been dropping for the past 3 days.

Magical22
February 22nd, 2016, 11:54 PM
13dpo for me and a temp drop to coverline today. Expecting full blown AF any second. I had spotting yesterday, but nothing today so far and it's 5pm. I never tested with a hpt since my temp has been dropping for the past 3 days.

Sorry essence [emoji17]


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Pbn3
February 23rd, 2016, 03:13 AM
I'm sorry essnce :(

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purple
February 23rd, 2016, 04:09 AM
Sorry essnce :(

Pbn... have you tested? Your chart looks good.

Pbn3
February 23rd, 2016, 04:18 AM
Bfns so far. My temps always stay up till cd1. I think maidens right and I oed 2 days after ff says. Did a test at lunch today and 'may' have seen 'something' but not confident. Trying to do a hold now lol.

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Magical22
February 23rd, 2016, 04:57 AM
Bfns so far. My temps always stay up till cd1. I think maidens right and I oed 2 days after ff says. Did a test at lunch today and 'may' have seen 'something' but not confident. Trying to do a hold now lol.

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Omg that's exciting I'm stalking you [emoji92][emoji1405][emoji92]


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Magical22
February 23rd, 2016, 05:00 AM
I have my scan next Friday to see when transfer will be. I need to have transfer by the latest of the 10th, I'm thinking my transfer will be the 10th which would be great no later as I'll be going on holidays the 11th.


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Pbn3
February 23rd, 2016, 05:13 AM
Not long now magical!! So exciting!

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Pbn3
February 23rd, 2016, 05:54 AM
It's worse than a super squinter but I'm feeling a teeny weeny bit hopeful for mornings test with fmu! Will post a pic then if I have something for sure :)

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Princess Mom
February 23rd, 2016, 06:46 AM
Darn I think I ovulated early this cycle a day! I usually ovulate two days after temp dip but today temp rises a bit! Dang and I BD last night and cd 10 but around midnight so maybe cd 11.

Dtd on ovulation date is slim right? Oh well 29994

Pbn3
February 23rd, 2016, 07:10 AM
Princess mom I dont think you've oed yet. Hopefully you'll a temp rise come morning which should mean you oed cd14. The rise you got this morning doesn't say o to me.

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tfahn
February 23rd, 2016, 10:51 AM
Fingers crossed for you PBN!!

Laurenk1424
February 23rd, 2016, 11:10 AM
Fingers crossed PBN!!!

Princess I agree, I don't think you've Od yet.


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Princess Mom
February 23rd, 2016, 12:07 PM
I agree, and got another solid smile, so pretty sure I'm ovulating today, will try BD again tonight.

Ttc2015
February 23rd, 2016, 04:18 PM
Hi everyone, I just wanted to say I'm giving swaying a little break for a few months, might return to it in May, but just feeling quite sad and a bit crazy at the moment. Good luck to everyone, I hope I see lots of bfps soon! X

Laurenk1424
February 23rd, 2016, 04:52 PM
I know exactly how you feel ttc. I'm so sorry your heart is hurting. It's good to take a break and re-energize. I did it in December and felt so much better coming back.


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momamia4
February 23rd, 2016, 05:03 PM
So sorry essnce!!

FX Pbn!!!

Yay, magical!! :D I'm so excited for you!!

Ttc2015, hugs!! I know exactly how you feel.

Well, my hsg results sucked. Both tubes are completely blocked. My RE is going to do a laparoscopy to determine if my tubes are indeed blocked. He said that way I'll be asleep so I won't feel so much pain and the results are more accurate. It was horribly painful!! Significantly more painful than the last one I had done. I'm really glad that I took some heavy duty pain killers and not just motrin. I'm hoping that my tubes just spasmed and my left one is actually open. You know how sometimes you are just really in tune with your body despite what science/doctors say? My body is telling me that my left tube is open. I guess we'll find out at the laparoscopy. I have to schedule it on cd1. Thank god my insurance is going to cover it! :D I'm trying to stay hopeful that everything will work out in the end. DH took it so hard. He was crying and so angry. I feel horrible for him. We've decided to go the IVF route if my tubes are blocked but that won't happen for another year due to the cost. If anyone knows anywhere in that does IVF cheaply, please let me know! I'd love to do it sooner rather than later!

Laurenk1424
February 23rd, 2016, 05:08 PM
I'm sorry momamia. I know that wasn't the news you wanted but now you can move forward with the next steps :(. I hate when Dh is sad. That's awful. I'm hoping tomorrow is a better day.


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Kmomofthree
February 23rd, 2016, 05:51 PM
Wow momamia I am sorry. I'm glad that you are getting some answers.

tfahn
February 23rd, 2016, 07:22 PM
Sorry momamia, hope the lap procedure goes well. I'm glad u decided to go IVF if you need too, one way or another you'll get your baby.