Baby measures too small for 7weeks

[Zoey]

Hello,

I went to see a doctor yesterday.
Supposedly 7+0 weeks pregnant but according to sonographer I was only 5+3.
There was no heartbeat visible.

As I tested with opks and also hav O cramps I know when I ouvulated.
Got a very very extremely faint BFP at 14dpo and it took until 17dpo for the lines to get slightly darker. Still pretty weak compared to my previous prEgnancies where I got Darker lines at 13dpo.

Im so sad.... Don't know what to do

[Babygirlquest]

I would try not to panic yet and maybe go back in a couple of weeks, it is possible you ovulated a bit later. Opks are not always accurate and when you thought you were 14 dpo you might have been only 8/9 dpo.

I'm so sorry if you have lost your baby but please go back in a week or so to check. 5 weeks is too early to usually see a heartbeat. I pray your sweet baby catches up.

[Zoey]

Thank you....

Thing is I had really sharp O-cramps, like unmistskingly strong.

[maidentomother]

O pain is NOT reliable for determining O, even very severe O pain can happen a week or more before you actually O.

I don't think it sounds good but I wouldn't abandon all hope, the bsby may yet be okay.

[Atsaukina1]

I don't know why docs even do ultrasounds that early? It's really too early and many many people hear this and are distraught and go back and are fine. Should be able to hear heartbeat after 13 weeks or so. Some people earlier and this is with regular Doppler not internal us that are just unnecessary. Fx for you prego stays strong and sticky.

[atomic sagebrush]

answered in other thread, but just wanted to send (((hugs))))

[Zoey]

O pain is NOT reliable for determining O, even very severe O pain can happen a week or more before you actually O.
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But used together with OPKs and CM charting it should be a good measurement, right ?

[Zoey]

I don't know why docs even do ultrasounds that early? It's really too early and many many people hear this and are distraught and go back and are fine. Should be able to hear heartbeat after 13 weeks or so. Some people earlier and this is with regular Doppler not internal us that are just unnecessary. Fx for you prego stays strong and sticky.

She wasn't listening for a heartbeat, but at 7+0 and even 5+3 there def should be a heartbeat visible on the monitor

[Zoey]

I would try not to panic yet and maybe go back in a couple of weeks, it is possible you ovulated a bit later. Opks are not always accurate and when you thought you were 14 dpo you might have been only 8/9 dpo.

I'm so sorry if you have lost your baby but please go back in a week or so to check. 5 weeks is too early to usually see a heartbeat. I pray your sweet baby catches up.

Thank you so much, I don't think I ouvulated later. Maybe I had a late implantation though and that she also measured a few days on the short side.
But that's just wishful thinking and there should still be a beating heart

[Zoey]

answered in other thread, but just wanted to send (((hugs))))

Thank you

[mammacass]

She wasn't listening for a heartbeat, but at 7+0 and even 5+3 there def should be a heartbeat visible on the monitor

I was also measuring earlier than I believed I was at my first dating scan. I think the general consensus for seeing the heartbeat on the monitor is once you are past 6 weeks, hopefully when you go back there will be a beautiful heartbeat x

[Atsaukina1]

She wasn't listening for a heartbeat, but at 7+0 and even 5+3 there def should be a heartbeat visible on the monitor
Concerns Regarding Early Fetal Development (http://americanpregnancy.org/pregnancy-complications/early-fetal-development/)

[Atsaukina1]

Had a friend that they told had a blighted ovum and recommended d&c. She decided to wait and had a healthy prego. If she did decide to do d&c they don't even do an us right before to check:(

[Atsaukina1]

I was also measuring earlier than I believed I was at my first dating scan. I think the general consensus for seeing the heartbeat on the monitor is once you are past 6 weeks, hopefully when you go back there will be a beautiful heartbeat x

Why do people get dating scans if they are pretty darn positive of dates?

[mammacass]

In Australia, well where I am anyways, it's standard just because they want to be sure of dates for NT scan. It's always possible your dates are out, regardless of how "sure" you are, as mine were, due to later ovulation etc

[maidentomother]

But used together with OPKs and CM charting it should be a good measurement, right ?

No. Even if all 3 align perfectly you could much later or not at all. Only temps can pinpoint O with decent accuracy.

[Atsaukina1]

By days or a week not that far to matter if you didn't do such early scans. It's probably standard here as well but I dont even see mw that early lol. It's just more stress for that babes that are a lil slower or dates a lil off.

[Zoey]

By days or a week not that far to matter if you didn't do such early scans. It's probably standard here as well but I dont even see mw that early lol. It's just more stress for that babes that are a lil slower or dates a lil off.

Well, I have experirncef loss before. Twice.
Once at 13 weeks and once at 14 weeks.

For all of Us where a BFP dosent automatically equals childbirth some 35-38 weeks later early monitoring is essential for our well being during pregnsncy.
Want to know by now, not wait until 12 week Scan IF I carry a lost pregnancy

[MyByC]

It happend to me dear..with my girl...I was soo scared and upset and cried a lot. It happend to my pregnancy to measure 2 weeks less or 1 week and then again 10 days and then got to it's point and then again ...until 13 weeks.
And it also happend not to hear the heartbeat at my first u/s...so I would say..PLS stay positive and just pray and pray and pray. Think this is your baby and she/he will grow up soon.
Hoping for the best! ☀️☀️☀️


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[Zoey]

It happend to me dear..with my girl...I was soo scared and upset and cried a lot. It happend to my pregnancy to measure 2 weeks less or 1 week and then again 10 days and then got to it's point and then again ...until 13 weeks.
And it also happend not to hear the heartbeat at my first u/s...so I would say..PLS stay positive and just pray and pray and pray. Think this is your baby and she/he will grow up soon.
Hoping for the best! ☀️☀️☀️


[emoji166]

Thann you!
Were you also sure when you conceived ?
At what point was your very first US?

[Babygirlquest]

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[MyByC]

Yes. I know perfectly when my ov was because I also did u/s 2 days after it.


[emoji166]

[Zoey]

Thank you all for taking time sharing your stories.
I am waiting for a call back with test results and so far nothing

[Atsaukina1]

Sending positive vibes your way.

[Zoey]

Thank you!

Still so confused. Got a call back, My hcg on Friday was 13 000. Which the doctor Said matched My measured gestagation.
Sho Will not do any more tests or scans.

Im so worried. The test shows I was clearly pregnsnt, but not IF it's still developing or maybe I had a missed abortion nearly 2 W ago.

[Zoey]

Booked a private scan today with an OB gyn with a private practise.
He took one super duper quick look. He didn't even measure, he said his eye measurements said it was 6mm CRL. "No visible heart activity"
He refused to give me a dating from that because he thought it was pointless.
The nurse did my bloodwork. Will go back for another Blood test on Friday morning and have results early next week.
Another ultrasound scheduled 9 days from now for next Friday. But if my hcg levels are dropping I won't be needing that

My vibe is very negative. Don't feel positive at all and just want to know dead or alive

[Pbn3]

Zoey just want to say I am so very sorry :( what an awful limbo to be in. 9 days will feel like a lifetime if nothing happens in between. I am hoping for a miracle for you. Again I'm so sorry :( there's nothing worse than conflicting opinions/results. Everything crossed for a better outcome at your next u/s.

519b48 Ovulation charts on FertilityFriend.com (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/519b48)

[Zoey]

Thank you! Feeling quite sad

[Junie]

Thank you! Feeling quite sad


I'm so sorry. These days of limbo can be so awful especially when it looks to be going a certain way. Hugs.

[MyByC]

Zoey, pls stay positive! Really!
If you are getting negative then your body is also, your mind, your heart....! I would keep a hope...pls!


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[sharon]

aww zoey ive everything crossed for you :fx:

[Zoey]

Thank you for cheering me on, and for cheering for My little one !

It's so hand to try and keep a positive mind. I know that IF Im going through a loss Again... My third, I Will need to be prepared and not have schatterad dreams.
I've lost two babie at 13 and 14 weeks and they were both growing absolutely fine until then. Both scored perfectly on the 12+0 week chromosone screenings...

[Zoey]

Yesterdays hcg level was 28 000.
Incresing, but not nearly enough.
Was 13K on Friday and is supposed to doubble every 48h.

[Atsaukina1]

Hugs for the wait and dealing w an asshole doctor.

[MyByC]

Zoey, it didnt descrease ;)
Alsoooo, my hcg level when I went to make the blood analyse after my ovulation was really small and the doctor said it's absolutelly no chance to get pregnant with that amount, but hei, I did :) so maybe it will be okay. Would you pls think positive??


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[Babygirlquest]

I'll hope for a miracle for you yet.

[Zoey]

Well, some weird news!

Went back this morning to have My blood Drawn Again.
The doctor hinself greeted me in the waiting area and was called in. Not to the nurse for bloodwork but to the Dr.
He Said that he had seen My results from the lab and was surprised and Said that at that number clearly indicated a healthy pregnancy.
He wanted to do a new US and so we did, and now he looked throughly. Measured the festus to 12-13mm CRL and also found a beating heart! Can you believe IT?

Was dated to 7+3 (according to My calculations I should be 8+0 so only four days behind).

No need for blood work, another US booked for next Friday.

[nuthinbutpink]

Great news. Just FYI, HCG stops doubling after a fee weeks. It increases but isn't supposed to double.

[XXforhubby]

Fantastic news! Keep staying positive!


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[MyByC]

What did I told you?????
GREAT news!


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[atomic sagebrush]

I just want to let everyone know that studies have been done recently that indicate doctors are not always using due diligence when telling people a pregnancy will not work out. This is a prime example. An ultrasound can be wrong, even bloodwork can be misleading. There have been terminations scheduled after only ONE ultrasound that turned out to be healthy pregnancies so please always err on the side of caution even when a doctor is telling you otherwise. There is no harm in continuing along a few more days or a week to see what is happening and having further testing done.

[Junie]

Awesome news!

[Pbn3]

Wow that's awesome zoey! So happy things turned out well!

519b48 Ovulation charts on FertilityFriend.com (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/519b48)

[Babygirlquest]

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[ahorn586]

This is awesome news!!!! I'm so happy for you!!!

[Zoey]

Thank you all!
Im slowly starting to believe it myself.
IT happened so fast wasnt prepared for antyhing but a Quick blood test yesterday.
I only parkerad My car for 15min Thinking IT would be the quickest in N out at the nurses station. Haha...

No matter what happens now in this pregnancy, please rememeber this IF you or anyone you know are told at 6 or even 7 full weeks of pregnancy that there is nothing there, or IF they are dated back for 2 weeks.

New ultrasound on Friday. Nervous... But can't wait

[Zoey]

I just want to let everyone know that studies have been done recently that indicate doctors are not always using due diligence when telling people a pregnancy will not work out. This is a prime example. An ultrasound can be wrong, even bloodwork can be misleading. There have been terminations scheduled after only ONE ultrasound that turned out to be healthy pregnancies so please always err on the side of caution even when a doctor is telling you otherwise. There is no harm in continuing along a few more days or a week to see what is happening and having further testing done.

Im so interested in those studies and esp the outcome of pregnancies.
Can you please post a link?

[Babygirlquest]

Zoey if you google misdiagnosed miscarriages there is a whole site about women who were effectively told they were miscarrying and actually had healthy babies. It is something that concerns me about countries routinely giving early scans without due cause, it seems to happen a lot where people are told not viable and actually there babies are fine.

[essnce629]

Yay, so excited for you!!!! When I had my miscarriage I did a lot of research and I definitely read in multiple places that a heartbeat is often not seen until 7 weeks. If one isn't seen before 7 weeks, another ultrasound should always be done at the 7 week mark to check. It's only when the heartbeat isn't seen after 7 weeks 4 days that it's thought the pregnancy is for sure not viable.

[Babygirlquest]

Also interestingly enough Zoey, it says on that site that the UK's new guidelines are to wait 9 weeks, if the sac is growing, to diagnose a blighted ovum. Which means that even at 8 weeks the sac can seem empty and then a baby can appear at 9 weeks (which happened to the site owner and is told in her story). She also had a tilted uterus which apparently can make it more difficult to see the baby in the sac.

[Babygirlquest]

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[girliedreamz]

So happy for you, Zoey! I'm going through this myself. 2 past losses just like you, so I'm also getting a lot of early testing done. At my 6wk4dy ultrasound they said I was measuring too small and the heart beat was there but very slow. So slow and so small they didn't bother measuring. :/ I'm certain of my conception date (TMI, but dh and I only dtd 1 time this cycle—hey, swaying girl!). So far my blood work has been meh-to-okay—hcg rising but not exactly double every 48—so I'm just playing the excruciating waiting game. I did more blood draws twice last week, so waiting the long holiday weekend (grrr) to hear the results. I have another scan set for 8wk3dy, but that seems like FOREVER from now.
They also said my uterus was measuring too large—possible fibroids—and that it was severely tilted. Funny that in my past three healthy pregnancies no one ever noticed or mentioned that.

[atomic sagebrush]

Im so interested in those studies and esp the outcome of pregnancies.
Can you please post a link?

If you google it they will come up. It's very time consuming for me to hunt down and post links.

[Atsaukina1]

Congrats on the great news!!! Uk's waiting at least 9 weeks sounds better than going through what many do on here. Unless you need meds from ob to help sustain your pregos we should not see docs that early. It like waiting to poas it drives us crazy and some can get a + at 9 days and others at 18 days. It's a waiting game and we are all different. Nothing u can do. Congrats again!

[atomic sagebrush]

So happy for you, Zoey! I'm going through this myself. 2 past losses just like you, so I'm also getting a lot of early testing done. At my 6wk4dy ultrasound they said I was measuring too small and the heart beat was there but very slow. So slow and so small they didn't bother measuring. :/ I'm certain of my conception date (TMI, but dh and I only dtd 1 time this cycle—hey, swaying girl!). So far my blood work has been meh-to-okay—hcg rising but not exactly double every 48—so I'm just playing the excruciating waiting game. I did more blood draws twice last week, so waiting the long holiday weekend (grrr) to hear the results. I have another scan set for 8wk3dy, but that seems like FOREVER from now.
They also said my uterus was measuring too large—possible fibroids—and that it was severely tilted. Funny that in my past three healthy pregnancies no one ever noticed or mentioned that.

Don't worry about the tilted uterus or the fibroids, that is not a dealbreaker.

Do you think it may be twins?

[Throwaway_panther]

She wasn't listening for a heartbeat, but at 7+0 and even 5+3 there def should be a heartbeat visible on the monitor

That's actually incorrect. A heartbeat at 7 weeks is maybe average, and a 5+3 is pretty unusual -- we saw one at 5w6d for me, and my OB was flat out astonished. These are technically the early beginnings of the formation of the heart, not actually the heart -- not seeing a heartbeat until ~8-10ish weeks is OK. You also can't generally hear a heartbeat so much as see one that early, also.

Are you scheduled to go back in to check on progression?

While not as big, I was measured a full week behind when I went in at 5w6d, which even with an early "heartbeat" worried me. I just didn't ovulate when I thought I had (and I had based that on CM and cervix positioning and loose timing). Even the best of the best ovulation tracking isn't always accurate. Case in point, I had started out with a VERY faint BFP that slowly darkened over days. At the time, I thought I had been 14DPO as well -- nope, I had a very EARLY BFP at 8DPO based on the dating ultrasound.

I know how stressful and aimless this time can be right now. I'm here if you want to talk over PM.

ETA: Oops, didn't see this was a few days old. So happy to hear the good news!! Hopefully anyone with a similar story will see my response and the general discussion -- this is NOT an uncommon story! So glad it's happy!

[atomic sagebrush]

No oops, it's very valuable and I like keeping these threads going and chock full of useful info for everyone. :)

[Zoey]

I just wanted to check in and give a little update and a huge thanks to everyone in this thread. Esp to Atomic, you made this happe for me!

I had a baby girl in August.
She was born 5 weeks premature due to preeclampsia. But healthy as can be.

I can remember the feeling of loss and panic I experinced. I thought there was no hope, and can you believe after my first US she talked about scheduliga a d&c.' Don't even wanna think about it.

I think I conceived when I had those O pains. As I wrote before, she was born more than 5 weeks premature but at 46cm long she weighed 2465grams and didnt even need oxygen at birth. She could breastfeed from the very start and needed no extra attention what so ever. All this, and her size, makes me believe I really was right on the dates making her only a 4 weeks preemie.


For anyone who might read this thread, who might google or search and end up here.
Please stay positive even when you think all is lost.

[Babygirlquest]

Such a lovely update Zoey. So glad you didn't jump into the d and c, I think they suggest those things far too quickly when really they should wait and see if the pregnancy progresses. Your baby girl sounds like she is doing so well.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you so very much for updating, Zoey!! I always like people to stay optimistic for this very reason and your experience will help so many other people!!

Hugest congrats on your baby girl!

[atomic sagebrush]

also if you wanted to, if you were to update your old ultrasound thread where you had been told by some people on other sites that your baby was a boy at 11 weeks (which it is impossible to tell gender at that point) with your girl's birth, that also really helps.

People don't always believe me when I say 11 weeks is too early for gender but you are living proof of that. :)

[purple]

Congratulations! I think some people also make early babies, both my friends boys were born around 35 / 36 weeks and were small but had no issues. I'm glad she is doing well :)