New to gender dreaming, please take a look at my planed sway

[Miss gabby]

Hello ladies
I'm a proud mumma to two boys 3 and 11months, I plan on ttc in May. We have started implementing sway techniques from ingender but I'm drawn to genderdreamings ways. Here is my plan
Hubby abstain 10+days with a cut off
I'm taking, calcium magnesium and cranberry
Hubbys taking calcium magnesium and cranberry (will take licorice root when I get some)
We've started diet but are quiet useless, we are eating a lot of chicken, cruskits, green grapes, cheese, rice and yoghurt.
What's your thoughts on alcohol and coffee? Hubby loves both but I haven't let him and he's not happy?
I'm very new to gender dreaming of you have any links or tips I'd be ever so greatful, I need my very own daughter and long for her ever so bad 🙏🎀😍👧

[maidentomother]

Drop all the supps you're taking. You should only be taking 1000-1200mcg folate. DH is ok to take cranberry and calcium but if you take them they can sway blue.

Switch to LE diet and go completely vegetarian if at all possible. Are you sticking to fat, protein, and calorie totals? Your diet is the most important sway factor.

Coffee and alcohol are FINE for DH, can even sway pink. They sway pink for you too so both of you should be having coffee and alcohol.

I wouldn't put DH on LR, it's had bad results. I wouldn't do an abstain, also bad results. If possible I'd do FR, either DH on his own or with a condom BDing. Make sure to stick to one attempt at positive OPK!

Are you doing the hour of cardio daily? If not consider, it's getting great results for pink.

[Miss gabby]

Ok ��
We did frequent release with out boys so that's why I was aiming to abstain.
What's the reason behind less supps? I find the info conflicting

[squigglepink]

Hi miss gabby, how long did fr for with your boys? Was it 7-10 days prior to just ONE attempt at +OPK? Im asking because we are planning on doing fr to sway girl

thanks

[squigglepink]

hi maidentomother, im vegetarian - you mention sticking to fat, protein and calorie totals, please let me know how i can stick to this too? i know the totals but any food related tips would be great.

Also, i run 5k every Saturday. That is all. Should i stop that altogether? I cannot do an hour a day i just dont have the time..

[maidentomother]

squiggle, I'd consider buying the meal plan atomic sells or making your each week. If you plan all your meals in advance and make sure to keep the ingredients on hand that hells a lot. If you don't mind eating lots of the same things, you can just figure out say 3 different LE friendly meals for breakfast, lunch, dinner and rotate. That is basically what I do.

Unless you are quite overweight I would stop the weekend 5k, yes.

[squigglepink]

squiggle, I'd consider buying the meal plan atomic sells or making your each week. If you plan all your meals in advance and make sure to keep the ingredients on hand that hells a lot. If you don't mind eating lots of the same things, you can just figure out say 3 different LE friendly meals for breakfast, lunch, dinner and rotate. That is basically what I do.

Unless you are quite overweight I would stop the weekend 5k, yes.

Great - thank you!

[honeybee37]

Maiden - I have been having DH take licorice root based on the Ttc pink booklet I purchased when I joined. Is this no longer recommended then?

[maidentomother]

How old is your DH? I would no longer recommend it across the board as I used to, but in young men known/suspected to have high sperm count I might still advise it. Definitely drop if DH is having ANY issues on it. Maybe have him use up his current bottle but don't buy more?

The stats on LR have been declining over time and are now quite bad. I do think it still sways pink and our stats probably make it look worse bc there are so many DHs of pink swayers that are 35+.

[honeybee37]

Thanks, Maiden. He is 35 in August. He's been extremely fertile in recent years and I think he probably does have a high sperm count although this hasn't been tested in any official capacity. He's also taking cranberry and I've ordered him some OLE. Do you think the OLE would be a good idea?

[maidentomother]

I think cranberry and OLE are great for guys, individually, but atomic does not recommend taking both together. OLE is getting better results so I'd go with that.

LR is at your discretion. I probably wouldn't buy another bottle for your DH, and I'd have him drop it before then (if applicable), if you try for 3 cycles with no BFP. Maybe even sooner depending on what else you're doing to sway.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi and welcome Miss Gabby, thanks for patience, this one sneaked by me.

While I personally think cal-mag sway blue, and cranberry is unsafe and does not work, and hence I recommend none, I understand that some people aren't ready to give up those yet. Use at your own discretion.

Do not ever have hubby abstain more than 10 days. It isn't safe, and our stats show abstain does little to nothing to help anyway so is not worth the risk. 7-10 days max.

Timing doesn't sway and most of us on this site have 2,3,4 or more timing opposites. It is fine if you want to include it but please no loner than 2-3 day cutoff (longer than that and you reduce odds of conception too far.) Science against timing is here http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/7691-trouble-timing.html
WE use a different diet that is easier to stick to and you can read more about that here. http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/16780-low-everything-diet-nutshell-version.html

Alcohol and coffee have been shown definitively in our statistics both to be outstanding pink sway tactics, regardless of what they claim on other sites. If those things swayed blue in any way (even a little) we would not be getting 75-80% with them over the course o years. Both of them are fine for you and also for DH.

[atomic sagebrush]

RE LR and bad results...

recently, LR has had bad results. The first couple years of the site, however, it was among our best sway tactics (75% for a good two years if not longer) I don't know what is going on with the LR but I am not willing to give up on it just yet and do still recommend it.

[atomic sagebrush]

Ok ��
We did frequent release with out boys so that's why I was aiming to abstain.
What's the reason behind less supps? I find the info conflicting

That is because IG bases their recommendations on "science" (some of it is extremely sketchy, like done in frogs and sponges that do not even reproduce in the same way humans do) done 50 years or longer ago before they had the same level of technology we do now, and we use the newest research and our own experiences. Many of us got BOYS taking cal, mag, cranberry, so it's easy for us to give up on it (and additionally cranberry has some health risks as well). IF you want to keep doing them, it is up to you, and I would follow your gut instincts there. Just be sure NOT to do the Vit. D, probiotics, or the B6, those have seemed to REALLY sway blue and we don't use them at all.

[atomic sagebrush]

I think cranberry and OLE are great for guys, individually, but atomic does not recommend taking both together. OLE is getting better results so I'd go with that.

LR is at your discretion. I probably wouldn't buy another bottle for your DH, and I'd have him drop it before then (if applicable), if you try for 3 cycles with no BFP. Maybe even sooner depending on what else you're doing to sway.

Cranberry vs. OLE - I do not use these in the same groups of people. I use cranberry for men who are young and in good health with high sperm count and not on other medications. I use OLE for older, less healthy men, some on medications, some with bad sperm health. You CANNOT compare cranberry and OLE in our results because young men in good health with high sperm count may be coming into swaying with a higher chance of blue to start with and I do not think the statistics are reliable. Over time, more and more people will use OLE even at younger ages and if hte numbers stay high, then I will start to believe OLE is better. As it sits now I am not sold on this and thus consider OLE to be a bit experimental.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi miss gabby, how long did fr for with your boys? Was it 7-10 days prior to just ONE attempt at +OPK? Im asking because we are planning on doing fr to sway girl

thanks

This is a good question because a lot of people say they did FR but they didn't really.

FR is 7-10 days of husband release NOT INSIDE before having one unprotected attempt. It is NOT DTD every other day, it's not 3 attempts around O, it is not hubby skipping a day every couple of days, it's not anything other than having 7-10 days of release before 1 unprotected attempt

[atomic sagebrush]

Maiden - I have been having DH take licorice root based on the Ttc pink booklet I purchased when I joined. Is this no longer recommended then?

I still recommend LR please read above comments.

The stats go up and down and all around and we're looking at overall trends.

[squigglepink]

Cranberry vs. OLE - I do not use these in the same groups of people. I use cranberry for men who are young and in good health with high sperm count and not on other medications. I use OLE for older, less healthy men, some on medications, some with bad sperm health. You CANNOT compare cranberry and OLE in our results because young men in good health with high sperm count may be coming into swaying with a higher chance of blue to start with and I do not think the statistics are reliable. Over time, more and more people will use OLE even at younger ages and if hte numbers stay high, then I will start to believe OLE is better. As it sits now I am not sold on this and thus consider OLE to be a bit experimental.

Hi Attomic
Wanted to ask you something on above - what would you consider as old? My DH is 38. Would he fall into the OLE category? He is healthy, healthy sperm count and not on meds. OR should we consider cranberry for him. Or nothing - which is his current intake.

Many thanks

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi Attomic
Wanted to ask you something on above - what would you consider as old? My DH is 38. Would he fall into the OLE category? He is healthy, healthy sperm count and not on meds. OR should we consider cranberry for him. Or nothing - which is his current intake.

Many thanks

Yes I would use OLE for him.

[squigglepink]

Hi Attomic

Quick one - im back to thinking about supps for DH again... As per above post im thinking yes..

Although below (as per your feedback) im thinking no.. Im confused but not sure if its worth being confused over because possibly a redundant supp for DH.. Would he benefit regardless of swaying? Its not a cheapie product over here!

"I am not totally sold on OLE. I know the stats look good for swaying but please understand that our stats are not a scientific study, and two different groups of people are using the OLE vs. not using it. I give OLE to older men or those on certian medications or with poor sperm health and NOT the general population. I have reason to believe those men may be coming into swaying more "set" for pink than the general population to begin with and thus I am not fully sold that the OLE is really as good as it appears.

The only reason why we ever started to investigate OLE is because a doctor was on here for a while in the early days of the site and claimed to get good results with gender splits with IVF pregnancies (more XX than XY). I have seen many people take it for that purpose and to me it seems about 50-50 and while some people did seem to see improvements on it, others didn't, and it all seems well within the range of luck to my eye. But it doesn't seem to sway blue, so I started using it for swaying among those who can't do cranberry. That's all. No stronger info or scientific support than that"

I dont want to gamble and im happy to leave supps out for DH especially if doesnt seem to sway blue, but possibility still exists.

[atomic sagebrush]

I don't know. I just can't say. I do not think it's doing anything for IVF (they seem to get about 50-50) and like I said I do not yet trust our stats on it. I pretty much spelled it out in that post you quoted. I didn't give it to my husband and we got a girl without it. When I said "I'd use OLE for him" I meant that simply if you bought a custom plan, I would have given him OLE instead of cranberry. But we don't even know that either one of them really truly does anything. In a year or two, with more and more people NOT in the category I mention start using it, we'll see what the numbers do. But in the here and now, I use it because people want it, and I am still reserving judgement.

It may be beneficial for health, so there's that.

[squigglepink]

Ok great - thanks for that. Feel better about it now. Happy to leave it out x