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soontobesix
September 14th, 2011, 05:56 PM
I am on CD 12 and just started EWCM late last night. Figured tonight would be the perfect time to DTD as I usually have 1.5 days until my temp drops (my temp was still low this morning). Well I went a long stretch this afternoon without peeing so I could take my OPK and when I went to the bathroom my EWCM was drying up (not completely, but somewhat), still negative OPK (I never get a positive), and my pH had dropped to about 6.4 (from a 7.0 yesterday). What do I do? Everything changed in a matter of 4 hours and I think I lost my chance!! Do I use a little pre-Seed and hope that ovulation is happening as I type? Called DH and he is leaving work pronto. When I inserted my finger (TMI!) there is still a little EWCM left up by my cervix. Do I do it or wait until next month? Don't want to risk o+12 but there's no way it's o+12 yet since I just had EWCM at noon today. HELP!

Flava
September 14th, 2011, 07:03 PM
Im sure you did not O'd yet! We always have more ewcm on the days before O and less on O day. Some girls are dry or don't have any on O! But that does not mean you don't have any ewcm left usually we still have it up in the tubes.
Also my pH is jumping around too this cycle I got 7.4 and 6.4 too it just don't stay on the same number all day till O.
I think you are good to dtd tonight!
You can use pre-seed or ew it will help.

begonia
September 14th, 2011, 07:20 PM
Im sure you did not O'd yet! We always have more ewcm on the days before O and less on O day. Some girls are dry or don't have any on O! But that does not mean you don't have any ewcm left usually we still have it up in the tubes.
Also my pH is jumping around too this cycle I got 7.4 and 6.4 too it just don't stay on the same number all day till O.
I think you are good to dtd tonight!
You can use pre-seed or ew it will help.

ITA with what Flava said re: EWCM before O, and that there is likely still some left in there. Did you take an OPK yesterday at all or is today the 1st day? Just wondering if you can see any fade in pattern? Do you normally O CD12/13?

TTC5
September 14th, 2011, 07:31 PM
I'd def go tonight!!!!

soontobesix
September 14th, 2011, 08:17 PM
Ladies, thank you all so much! Seriously, what would I do without this little community?! :) So I came to the same conclusion that all of you did and as soon as DH got home from work we DTD! I laid in bed with my hips propped for an hour and then came down and joined DH and the kids for dinner. I did use a little pre-seed with a dab of baking soda in it and my pH was up to 8 right before. I was having some ovulation pains as I laid in bed with my hips up so I'm hoping despite all my worries that I ended up timing it just right. We'll see.

To answer some of your questions... the past few months I have O'd on CD 12 or 13 and today is CD 12 for me. I did get some faint lines (last night and today at noon) on my OPK's and then at 3:30 today it was completely negative (not even a faint line). Everything seemed to change very fast. I guess we'll see. Best of luck to everyone else.

TTC5
September 14th, 2011, 09:08 PM
Fingers crossed!!!!

soontobesix
September 15th, 2011, 02:40 PM
So then I wake up this morning and my temp does not shoot up! It's still low! WTH? Seriously? Then I have some EWCM this morning (although it could be the remnants of Pre-Seed and DTD last night). More ovulation pains this morning. Either way I was most likely a few hours before to the day before ovulation. I think. I hope! Ahhh! Watch I won't ovulate for 3 more days and then my sway will be in the girl range! I don't know how you ladies do this for long... I'm going batty and it's only my first month! Good luck to everyone else out there swaying right now!

Hobbermittens
September 15th, 2011, 05:55 PM
My temps don't shoot up after O. I have gradual rise, and it makes it really hard to tell when O is. If you think you might be fertile still, DTD tonight! Good luck!

TTC5
September 15th, 2011, 10:36 PM
It sure does your head in!

Flava
September 16th, 2011, 08:34 AM
I think there is no suck thing as "girl range" right? You can always get pregnant with both gender any time! I say dtd again today!

atomic sagebrush
September 16th, 2011, 01:10 PM
So then I wake up this morning and my temp does not shoot up! It's still low! WTH? Seriously? Then I have some EWCM this morning (although it could be the remnants of Pre-Seed and DTD last night). More ovulation pains this morning. Either way I was most likely a few hours before to the day before ovulation. I think. I hope! Ahhh! Watch I won't ovulate for 3 more days and then my sway will be in the girl range! I don't know how you ladies do this for long... I'm going batty and it's only my first month! Good luck to everyone else out there swaying right now!

Hey, I think you guys did exactly the right thing. I don't think there's any such thing as girl range. Most of the babies of either gender ever conceived were from sperm in the repro tract prior to ovulation because that's how the system is designed.

Don't worry about the way the CM seemed to dry up...that seems to be quite common - we get a big rush of CM a few days before O just to get everything ready to go (remember, through most of human history, we didn't shower every day so our body thinks that CM is going to stay where it belongs.). There's still CM up inside where it needs to be.

Hobbermittens
September 16th, 2011, 03:46 PM
Don't worry about the way the CM seemed to dry up...that seems to be quite common - we get a big rush of CM a few days before O just to get everything ready to go (remember, through most of human history, we didn't shower every day so our body thinks that CM is going to stay where it belongs.). There's still CM up inside where it needs to be.

That makes me not want to shower during O week! I wonder what DH would think of that?

TTC5
September 16th, 2011, 04:54 PM
That makes me not want to shower during O week! I wonder what DH would think of that?

LOL!

atomic sagebrush
September 17th, 2011, 03:45 PM
That makes me not want to shower during O week! I wonder what DH would think of that?

Somewhere on here is a thread where I suggested that and not a lot of people took me up on the idea ;), but I actually think it's a sound one. Even if it was just the day of your attempt!

Makes me wonder about the REAL reason why hot showers may sway pink - perhaps because it washes away CM???

TTC5
September 17th, 2011, 03:54 PM
I LOVE my hot showers.... another thing to add to my why I have girls list :P

soontobesix
September 18th, 2011, 09:28 PM
So just to keep me on my toes and make me realize that I am totally not in charge of this process.... I thought I ovulated on CD 13 (after a false alarm on CD 12). Just been hanging out having some sticky CM, a slight rise in temps and thinking my sway was done with for the month. Then today my temp drops dramatically. I start thinking it's a sign of implantation so I'm pumped, right!? Then I start getting HUGE strings of EWCM!!! WTH!? I thought I o'd 5-6 days ago! So just to be on the safe side I take an OPK (which never turn positive for me ) and it's POSITIVE!! Guess who's DTD again tonight!? But the bummer is I had this perfect sway going and then totally had sex in the girl time frame :( I know timing is the least important sway factor (thank goodness!) but I'm still bummed. I need to go re-read all the threads about how timing isn't important to cheer me up :)

Hobbermittens
September 18th, 2011, 10:13 PM
Even if you DTD in girl timing, you van counter act it tonight by adding some fresh swimmers! Good luck!!

Hobbermittens
September 18th, 2011, 10:15 PM
Somewhere on here is a thread where I suggested that and not a lot of people took me up on the idea ;), but I actually think it's a sound one. Even if it was just the day of your attempt!

Makes me wonder about the REAL reason why hot showers may sway pink - perhaps because it washes away CM???

Well, I am totally doing it! I hope I am not too smelly...:oops:

BTW, I thought only DH had to worry about hot showers?? I have always taken hot ones????

TTC5
September 24th, 2011, 10:10 PM
soontobesix - so you are now in the TWW, how is it going?

Nothing ever goes to plan huh!

atomic sagebrush
September 25th, 2011, 01:28 PM
Well, I am totally doing it! I hope I am not too smelly...:oops:

BTW, I thought only DH had to worry about hot showers?? I have always taken hot ones????

It's "below the equator" that I think would matter, so if you were able to do the spongebath thing (I've used baby wipes when camping and they work quite well) and then wash your hair in the sink, I think that can only help without making you repulsive LOL. ;)

Re: hot showers - if you believe that heat sways by reducing sperm count, then it's only for DH (and a hot bath is MUCH more effective). But if you believe in ions, then they sway for both DH and DW because the steam makes ions that then travel up your VJ and make you conceive a baby girl by magnetic attraction. I strongly suspect that IF hot showers for DW actually do sway, it's got a lot more to do with the whole washing away CM thing and nothing to do with ions at all whatsoever.

atomic sagebrush
September 25th, 2011, 01:32 PM
So just to keep me on my toes and make me realize that I am totally not in charge of this process.... I thought I ovulated on CD 13 (after a false alarm on CD 12). Just been hanging out having some sticky CM, a slight rise in temps and thinking my sway was done with for the month. Then today my temp drops dramatically. I start thinking it's a sign of implantation so I'm pumped, right!? Then I start getting HUGE strings of EWCM!!! WTH!? I thought I o'd 5-6 days ago! So just to be on the safe side I take an OPK (which never turn positive for me ) and it's POSITIVE!! Guess who's DTD again tonight!? But the bummer is I had this perfect sway going and then totally had sex in the girl time frame :( I know timing is the least important sway factor (thank goodness!) but I'm still bummed. I need to go re-read all the threads about how timing isn't important to cheer me up :)

That sounds like a fake O followed by the real deal, and when I conceived DS 4 I had exactly that. :agree: Good luck, I think you're still going to have a great sway!!