April is going to be awesome 2ww thread!

[jenren]

Jenren, I agree with Maiden on night weaning (that's if you and DS3 are ready for it). I only seem to get pregnant when my babies have stopped nursing at night. With DS1, I night weaned him around 12/13 months and three days later I O'ed then got pregnant with DS2 that cycle. I think what it is with nursing at night, is your body probably figures it's taxed enough feeding a baby during the day AND night, so another baby thrown in the mix isn't the best idea. I know there are women who O regardless of how much/when they breastfeed but I also know that some of us need to reduce/stop nursing in order to get pregnant. Also, this might sound crazy but both times while I was nursing to help bring on O, I slept in total darkness for awhile (as in no street lights, moonlight etc just complete pitch black darkness is what you want) then did a couple of nights with a night light on in our bedroom. I think it's called lunaception...it's supposed to sync your cycles with the moon and trick your body into thinking it's a full moon (O time). I know it sounds out there but I think it's worth a try. It did seem to help but maybe it was just a coincidence.
Ksmom I am going to research that! How fascinating. Thank you for that information. I have never heard of it before. :)

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[tfahn]

Been feeling crampy all evening, I really hope this is implantation cramping and not a sign of AF.

[ksmom]

Your chart looks great Tfahn! FX the cramping is a good sign!!

[Princess Mom]

Doc just left me a message hcg at 12dpo was 84! So I did the beta calculator and just put in a 5 for 9dpo just to see what it will say about doubling it said doubled like less than 48hrs so that's good right? Ugh I'm so nervous! She said come back Monday to check to see how they are doubling. She said progesterone is perfect.

[Princess Mom]

I agree I am loving your chart tfahn!!

[Beautifulrainbow]

I had another temp rise this morning so far things looking good I think

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[maidentomother]

jenren, I bet it is a combo of nursing DS3 more/later and being a little thin/newly vegetarian. I bet you will O soon naturally, especially considering the recent nursing cutbacks and stopped weight loss/eating more. But Femara should speed up the process and help your pink sway quite a bit too! Win/win I say. Especially if you don't want to have to wean any more/he's not ready. I bet he's adorable when he asks for it!

Princess, great results!

Tfahn, still looking super promising.

BR, post your chart!

My temps are sooo steady. They were for a while last cycle but shifted 1 day earlier and not quite as steady:

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[Beautifulrainbow]

Nip onto my iPad to do it now. I only use the app maiden how do I post it like yours

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[Pbn3]

Oh my maiden! I know you've said you have similar post o temps but I've just gone back through your charts and they dont look similar to me at all! Being a vip ff member can you do an overlay of say your last 6 charts against this one?

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[Beautifulrainbow]

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I also have a period like pain on my right lower side and feeling sick, but the feeling sick maybe from the crappy cup of coffee I just had from Mac d's!

[maidentomother]

This site won't let me upload pics from my tablet, grr. My post O temps aren't that similar yo recent charts but I overlayed several others over the past 2 years with steady temps and it's really not that special. Compared to my average it's also not special. Keep in mind I temp at different times so my temps aren't super accurate individually.

[tfahn]

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[Pbn3]

Oh tfahn I'm so sorry 😢 but could it just be a random dip? How long is your lp normally and do you normally get a drop prior to af?

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[tfahn]

LP is anywhere from 10-12 days, and yes I almost always drop temps for a day or 2 before AF shows. I'll be over the disappointment in a few hours but right now it just sucks. I know most people say that the progesterone supplements don't help but now I keep second guessing myself about not taking them. And just recalled last month saying that I would try them this month so I could say I tried everything but didn't follow through with that clearly. just wondering if it would have made a difference. Guess I'll be keeping the RE appt for Monday for the cyst check and to see what he wants to try next.

[Pbn3]

It definitely wont hurt to do whatever they suggest next cycle imo whether it's got to do with progesterone supps or not. At least then you've tried it both their way and yours. Would you consider eod plus additional attempt at pos opk? I'm just soooo bummed for you right now :( that temp drop is devastating :(

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[tfahn]

We do EOD already, have been for a year, then usually an extra attempt or 2 at +OPK.

[Pbn3]

Geez I'm sorry tfahn I must be confusing you with someone else :( I thought you had days (as in 3+) of attempts in a row for the past couple cycles... my apologies

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[Pbn3]

I just looked at your chart as posted above and can see 4 days in a row?? Have you tried just eod with no opks? Just asking out of curiosity? Sorry I cant see any chart link on tapatalk so have no idea what you've done previously only my dodgy memory lol

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[tfahn]

It works out that ways sometimes, EOD then usually throw an attempt in at EWCM and then extra attempts at + OPK can sometimes give me 4+days of attempts

[Pbn3]

Wow 1moregirl!! So happy for you and your timing sounds perfect!!

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[tfahn]

Just read a really good article about progesterone supplements that I found this morning, sounds like it is only really helpful with IVF patients. I don't think if I would have started taking them 4 days ago like the RE wanted would have changed anything, which made me feel better.

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[Princess Mom]

Fingers crossed for you 1moregirl.

Its so weird my pregnancy with my youngest my DS and I had few mc after him but since my son when I am pregnant right before I find out my first symtpom is always that indigestion heartburn feeling. Even with my first DS, that's what kept me from not worrying because I had that constant indigestion lol.

This time I don't have it which is weird because since my DS who is now 2 each pregnancy I had it. I didn't have it with DD I didn't even know I was pregnant till 10 weeks, I just was scared to test, but I did feel little sick at time but mostly tired. I know I'm early but just weird because indigestion always starts 8dpo with my DS and past two pregnancies that I miscarried further along. Not my chemical last month.

I just get tender boobs at times.

[Princess Mom]

I had another temp rise this morning so far things looking good I think

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Yay!!

[Princess Mom]

Tfahn I heard about that also about progesterone,

[maidentomother]

Tfahn, so sorry about the temp drop. I honestly really thi k you need Femara as you are not responding to Clomid even at 100mg. I want to see you Oing earlier with a 14 day LP. If I could, I'd start you on 5mg Femara CD3-7.

Glad you got another attempt in, 1moregirl.

[tfahn]

I have an appt with the RE for Monday. I will ask about the Femara, not sure they will give me that or not, they have never mentioned that drug before. Have you ever taken it Maiden? I am also going to ask about getting scanned around the time I ovulate to check egg sizes and lining just to see what is going on.

[ksmom]

Princessmom your beta level sounds great and yay for good progesterone! FX the hcg doubles!

Best of luck BR!!

Maiden and PBN, your charts are looking good so far. :) I'm really, REALLY hoping both of you get BFPs this month!

Tfahn, I'm so sorry. :( I really thought this was your month. I hope the RE is able to prescribe Femara or try something else different so you can get your long awaited BFP. It's so not fair you've been trying so long!

Good luck 1moregirl! I hope you catch the egg!

I had my RE appointment today and good news is, pretty much everything looks great! DH's SA was good, especially his sperm count which was quite high. The RE said my progesterone was a little low along with my prolactin. I thought I O'ed a few days ago but my temps don't reflect it so I told the doctor I'm now on CD26 with no ovulation. So next cycle, she's prescribing Femara and I'm supposed to go in for a few blood tests then an ultrasound. If I get pregnant, I'll be put on progesterone then have an early ultrasound to make sure baby is in the right spot. I'm really excited to be taking Femara considering how frustrated I get with late O!

[maidentomother]

Ksmom, that is awesome about the Femara. Maybe you will get pregnant this cycle and not need it!

tfahn, my dr won't prescribe Femara, especially bc I already respond 'well enough' to Clomid. I don't fully agree bc I'm still Oing late. But I'm just now 35 and age makes a difference. Older women do a lot better on Femara over Clomid. Femara is truly a wonder drug, very effective, safe, with no side effects, I want to be on it sooooo badly.

[Beautifulrainbow]

I have an appt with the RE for Monday. I will ask about the Femara, not sure they will give me that or not, they have never mentioned that drug before. Have you ever taken it Maiden? I am also going to ask about getting scanned around the time I ovulate to check egg sizes and lining just to see what is going on.
Mine didn't talk about femara until I mentioned it either. Mine said we had other things to try before they got there. In the end they bypassed all the tabs and went straight for fsh injections!

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[tfahn]

Ugghhh not sure I could do the injections, but another couple months of BFN's could convince me :) Hate the thought of giving myself shots.

[Beautifulrainbow]

Ugghhh not sure I could do the injections, but another couple months of BFN's could convince me :) Hate the thought of giving myself shots.
I was the same even though I have to inject my son because he has diabetes. When it came to myself I just contact do it. I got the nurse to do the 1st one and it really didn't hurt. So I could do it myself. I did chicken out on a couple of attempts but slowly inserting the needle it doesn't hurt and does not bruise either

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[Beautifulrainbow]

If you do go for injections get the ready filled pen that is best!

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[ksmom]

MaidentoMother, why do you think Femara is great for a pink sway? I noticed it's not in the stats like Clomid is so it's hard to gauge how "pink" it is.

[maidentomother]

Femara works in exactly the same way as Clomid but is more potent and effective. In recent studies comparing its use to Clomid in women with PCOS, those on Femara had even more girls thsn those on Clomid. Everything indicates it is likely at least as pink as Clomid if not pinker. However, it is technically off label when used for fertility, and a much newer drug than Clomid, thus why drs often won't prescribe it or only if Clomid doesn't work. And bc it is harder to get/used less it hasn't been put in the stats. But it should be, or combined eith Clomid, especially as we've had more and more pink swayers using it over time, and most if not all getting girls.

Femara is also better for pink swayers bc unlike Clomid, which one should only take for 6 cycles max and ideally not all in a row, Femara can be safely used indefinitely, cycle after cycle. The lowest dose of Femara, 2.5mg, has better odds of conception than the equivalent 50mg Clomid, too.

It is significantly more expensive than Clomid, that is the only con.

[Beautifulrainbow]

Femara works in exactly the same way as Clomid but is more potent and effective. In recent studies comparing its use to Clomid in women with PCOS, those on Femara had even more girls thsn those on Clomid. Everything indicates it is likely at least as pink as Clomid if not pinker. However, it is technically off label when used for fertility, and a much newer drug than Clomid, thus why drs often won't prescribe it or only if Clomid doesn't work. And bc it is harder to get/used less it hasn't been put in the stats. But it should be, or combined eith Clomid, especially as we've had more and more pink swayers using it over time, and most if not all getting girls.

Femara is also better for pink swayers bc unlike Clomid, which one should only take for 6 cycles max and ideally not all in a row, Femara can be safely used indefinitely, cycle after cycle. The lowest dose of Femara, 2.5mg, has better odds of conception than the equivalent 50mg Clomid, too.

It is significantly more expensive than Clomid, that is the only con.
Can't be as much as fsh injections can it?

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[Girlieplease]

Congratulations on the BFP's ladies. It is all very exciting.

Maiden your chart is looking excellent, I am excited. Really hope this is your month.

tfnn, hope it is just a dip and AF does not show up, your not out until you are.

Fingers crossed for everyone attempting or in t e horrible 2 ww!

[maidentomother]

Much cheaper thsn injections still! Femara is a relatively cheap fertility treatment overall, just not DIRT cheap like Clomid.

[ksmom]

Thank you so much Maiden! I searched for Femara in the girl sways and 5 out of the 6 ladies that used it got girls (including one that had boy/girl twins). Too bad more pink swayers aren't using it so we can get a better idea of how it compares to Clomid. Do you know if it has the same side effects that Clomid does (like mood swings, hot flashes, no CM etc)?

[maidentomother]

It has no or very mild side effects. That's a big part of why it's so much better than Clomid. It also doesn't cause cysts or thin the uterine lining or dry up CM. The ONLY reason to ever use Clomid over Femara is if you want multiple eggs/twins. Femara has a low incidence of multiples, much lower than Clomid. Or if you are trying to save $35. I think it's ridiculous that Femara isn't used instead of Clomid.

[purple]

Congrats Princess Mom and afrevert23!!


I had my GP appointment today and had to explain everything that happened as they had the discharge summary from the hospital in a big pile waiting to be filed (they found it after I explained the miscarriage to my dr). It set me off emotionally though as I went in expecting her to know!

She didn't have any details about the pathology report from when they sent the sac/fetus away for testing, I don't know what they were testing for as they wouldn't do genetic testing after only 2 consecutive miscarriages but I sill want to know if it picks up anything else.

My Dr wants me to go back to the fertility specialist before trying again in case he thinks I need progesterone support or something else. I guess he might then put me on clomid but I would probably have to wait a few months before that happens.

Now I'm not sure if I should avoid getting pregnant, I was told to wait 2 cycles but that seems to just be what everyone gets told for no real reason. I not planning on trying too hard (no charting or opks) but I'm just going to keep up BDing every 3-4 days. I haven't ovulated yet but I'm not expecting to for another week based on my other two miscarriages.

[twointow83]

Congrats Princess Mom and afrevert23!!


I had my GP appointment today and had to explain everything that happened as they had the discharge summary from the hospital in a big pile waiting to be filed (they found it after I explained the miscarriage to my dr). It set me off emotionally though as I went in expecting her to know!

She didn't have any details about the pathology report from when they sent the sac/fetus away for testing, I don't know what they were testing for as they wouldn't do genetic testing after only 2 consecutive miscarriages but I sill want to know if it picks up anything else.

My Dr wants me to go back to the fertility specialist before trying again in case he thinks I need progesterone support or something else. I guess he might then put me on clomid but I would probably have to wait a few months before that happens.

Now I'm not sure if I should avoid getting pregnant, I was told to wait 2 cycles but that seems to just be what everyone gets told for no real reason. I not planning on trying too hard (no charting or opks) but I'm just going to keep up BDing every 3-4 days. I haven't ovulated yet but I'm not expecting to for another week based on my other two miscarriages.
Prayers that your rainbow find his/her way to you soon. My OB only recommended waiting 1 cycle, but after my D&Cs it took about 3 months for my body to heal (can't recall if you had one or not) & I think that played a big role in my CP as it was during those 3 months. Everyone heals differently though. FX and prayers for you.

🙏 for a healthy 🌈 🚼
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[purple]

Thanks Two. I didn't have a d&c this time, my previous ones I have so I waited until after the first AF. I feel pretty good physically and have recovered a lot quicker than last time since I didn't loose crazy amounts of blood.

[Beautifulrainbow]

Thanks Two. I didn't have a d&c this time, my previous ones I have so I waited until after the first AF. I feel pretty good physically and have recovered a lot quicker than last time since I didn't loose crazy amounts of blood.
I'm glad your feeling better quickly.x

I have had a very slight lower temp reading this morning. At 8dpo hoping it's the implantation dip [emoji102]

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[Beautifulrainbow]

Can you have pmt/pms during ttw and still get a bfp. Because I just snapped like I always do coming upto my AF. I don't think I'm pregnant.
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[Pbn3]

Purple hi and thanks for updating. I really cant say what I would do in your situation but I think I'd do exactly what your planning on as in ntnp. When do expect to get results back from pathology? From memory, I thought your 7 week scan went well, please forgive me if I'm wrong. Did your gp eloborate any on why she 'thought' possible progesterone issue? I agree as to what you said about waiting to ttc there is so much conflicting info out there and not really anything to support waiting or trying straight away. I had planned on waiting but had an oops cycle following mc but have been trying every cycle since. Someone (I think it was momamia) said her ob or FS said if your body is not ready to get pregnant it wont so I choose to believe that to.

Beautifulrainbow I give up reading anything into any symtoms or signs lol! It could be pms but could also be hormonal changes. Don't feel defeated by your mood! When are you testing? Was it 9dpo? Which is tomorrow your time?

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[purple]

I thought my 7 week scan went well but apparently the 117 bpm heartbeat was a little low for 7 weeks? It was also measuring a day or 2 behind but that isn't always an issue either (I was just hoping it was because it was a girl). I really think my dr has no idea what is wrong and it is a bit out of her depth being a GP so the specialist can help more.

The thing with low progesterone in pregnancy is sometimes it is low because the body knows the pregnancy isn't viable. I don't think mine was low as doesn't it cause sore boobs? Mine were really sore, that was my biggest symptom both times!

[Pbn3]

So when can you see your FS? And any chance of closer monitoring during then during 1st trimester as in regular bw maybe? I guess this will be things you'll find out when you see FS. Please keep us updated though. And yes measuring a day or so behind would not have been a red flag at all as well as the hb. Hope you get some answers from pathology testing, will you get results from FS?

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[purple]

Agghh.. now I googled low progesterone in pregnancy and it came up saying breast tenderness is a sign. I also read other info that says high progesterone causes breast tenderness... confusing much?

[purple]

So when can you see your FS? And any chance of closer monitoring during then during 1st trimester as in regular bw maybe? I guess this will be things you'll find out when you see FS. Please keep us updated though. And yes measuring a day or so behind would not have been a red flag at all as well as the hb. Hope you get some answers from pathology testing, will you get results from FS?


I'm not sure, I will ring Monday to see when I can get in. It is slightly annoying as my office is right next door but we are moving next month but it will take about 10 mins to get there from work so I can't complain.

The hospital were the ones who sent it away but I have no idea where it went and if any results will get sent to my Dr. She has asked the reception staff to chase it up.

When I got my BFP I rang up the FS and because I got pregnant naturally they didn't follow me up with any monitoring and I was told to go to my GP to organise scans, etc.

[Beautifulrainbow]

Hormonal yes defently. I lost my temper then I was upset and crying. Got sore boobs. And I just started welling up in Costa coffee ordering a coffee because the barista smiled at me. But to me losing my temper and sore boobs a week before I get af is usually a sign of af coming.
Did a hcg test this am negative at 8dpo was expecting it to be that so I'm not upset about that, but I'd thought id just give it a go!

[purple]

Hormonal yes defently. I lost my temper then I was upset and crying. Got sore boobs. And I just started welling up in Costa coffee ordering a coffee because the barista smiled at me. But to me losing my temper and sore boobs a week before I get af is usually a sign of af coming.
Did a hcg test this am negative at 9dpo was expecting it to be that so I'm not upset about that, but I'd thought id just give it a go!

I get cranky right before AF but some of my BFPs I was actually stupidly emotional for a day around 7-8dpo. I ruined mothers day last year as I got really upset over my gift and didn't want to do anything all day, I found out a few days later I was pregnant.

Sore boobs is something I get for BFN cycles and also BFP cycles and sometimes not at all. It is hard to guess this early based on symptoms!

Fx you get a BFP!

[Beautifulrainbow]

The last 3cycles before this cycle I have had no symptoms af is arriving, all these cycles I have been recieveing fertility treatment. Including this one!
All cycles for the past 2years I got sore boobs and snappy and stressed a week before af was due. Before that I never used to get any symptoms that af was arriving apart from a sore back the day before af. It's so funny how that happened. I know that these symptoms could mean your pregnant too but I'm just worried that after a couple of failed Clomid cycles and then bypassing other options and going straight to the one before the most expensive option (ivf) that it hasn't worked!

[maidentomother]

Purple, so glad to see you back here after your loss. Both too little and high P can cause sore breasts depending on how your body reacts. I have high P but don't get sore breasts unless I'm on Clomid...but I hsve high P then, too! It is confusing.

BR, yes you can absolutely have PMS in early pregnancy. I never get PMS and I never got it when pregnant, either.

I had a nice little temp rise today, but what are the odds I won't see any drop in temp by Monday? Not high IMO.

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[Princess Mom]

Today my test line is darker then the control line at 15dpo, but then I had light pink cm once and not again. Hopefully doesn't come back. I did spot this way for a week with my DS. I just check my cm again it is normal. I go for anoTher beta Monday. I want to cry! I was in charge of my kids school dance yesterday so I did a lot. I'm gonna rest today, I been testing daily and it darker today than yesterday so that a good sign

[XXforhubby]

Still. No. AF. I've been having a bunch of CM. Normally I'm dry before AF. I'll test tomorrow morning if I don't start today. It could be the exercise, but I've worked out much harder while nursing and still had AF. This is so strange for me.


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[Beautifulrainbow]

Xx-fx for BFP
how are you all feeling?

[maidentomother]

XX, I kinda hope you're pregnant. If you are, I think it might be your girl.

Time is passing soooooooo slowly.

[Pbn3]

Xxforhubby I think the same as maiden :) cant wait till you test!

Good luck everyone coming up to testing! Exciting week ahead! Hope to see many more bfps!

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[ksmom]

XX, can't wait to see what the test says! Good luck to the rest of the ladies testing soon! :)

I've decided to skip trying this cycle so I can use the Femara next cycle (if AF ever comes). Atomic agreed since she feels it's a good pink sway. I told DH and all he said was "so can we still have sex?" lol Men....

[Pbn3]

Good luck 1moregirl and yay for awesome bd timing when it counted!! I know things went abit iffy with dh so very happy to see you got a great timed attempt in!!

I'm 5dpo and didn't get to temp yesterday morning and temped a full 2 hours early this morning due to ds2 suddenly deciding to have sleep issues again lol. I haven't adjusted my temp as it would be about 0.2 higher from past experience and about as high as I could remember my temp ever getting but I don't trust adjusting and dont want to get my hopes up falsely. I'm more inclined to leave it as is and even 2 hours earlier its still a rise so I'll hope and pray ds2 sleeps through tonight so I can get an accurate temp in morning!!

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[Beautifulrainbow]

Thought I posted my chart?

Anyway 9dpo today did a test this morning it was a bfn. I'm not too concerned as i know it's still early. But while I was online last night te seller I got the tests off had some new feed back. It was other people saying the tests don't work now I concerned about that so I may pick some up at my supermarket later to test tomorrow!

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[maidentomother]

Ksmom, maybe you should try with one attempt this cycle, purely on the basis of Murphy's Law. I would, but I'm superstitious like that.

Pbn3, I wouldn't use the adjuster either but definitely make a note of the details. I had the exact same thoughts looking at today's temp BUT remember you're on Clomid so any changes could be due to that. It's common to have higher than usual temps on Clomid post O.

BR, can you describe the cheap test strips you have or take a pic?

1moregirl, unfortunately my chart often looks exciting right up until AF begins. I've had many similar charts, and even more promising ones, all BFN.

I didn't sleep much/well (2-3hrs broken on and off) and that does usually lead to significantly lower temps for me, but not this low! I'm not sure I've ever had this big a drop in my LP. I wonder if AF is imminent? I'd be surprised since Clomid definitely extended my LP before, but so does Vitex, and I still had some LPs as short as 8 days on it. I do have a few 8 day LPs a year and since my past 3 cycles have all been medicated/affected by recent Clomid use and had 13-14 day LPs, maybe I'm just due for a shorter LP?

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[Pbn3]

Maiden that's a crazy big dip!!! I went back thru your charts but I cannot find any type of trend??? I really hope (and its prime timing if it exists) its an implantation dip. I've seen big ones like this in the past that have ended in bfps so I'm feeling very hopeful for you!!!

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[Beautifulrainbow]

Hi maiden I had restless sleep last night too, one of those night?
Here is the test I got along with the one I did this morning, they seem to pause where the 1st line is if positive before continuing...
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[Beautifulrainbow]

Maiden could the battery on you thermometer be on the blink, I find mine gives me funny reading when mine is!

[Pbn3]

Beautifulrainbow can u get a closer pic of test? In all honesty I cant see anything in the one you've posted above but could just be hard to see :)

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[maidentomother]

Beautifulrainbow-

Hmmm I don't think I've seen those before. Sorry, most I'm familiar with.


Pbn3-

My April 2015 post O temps are eerily similar, except I didn't have nearly as big a dip. My February 2015 chart had a huge temp drop very like today's, but that cycle I had a severe case of strep throat and was feverish from 2dpo until 6dpo/AF. My March 2015 and February 2014 charts have big drops around 9dpo & similar post O temps overall but temp went up again after the drop. Shame I can't upload the chart overlays. Maybe I could in Tapatalk? Or anyone know a good free image hosting site?

[Beautifulrainbow]

closer shot of my test for pbn3.
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[Pbn3]

Beautifulrainbow I'm sorry I'm still not seeing a line :( but it could just be its not photographing well which is very common! Hope to see it darken nicely over next few days!

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[maidentomother]

1moregirl, I don't believe in implantation dips personally and I've never had one in any of my 5 pregnancy charts. I was maybe going to test tomorrow/10dpo but ONLY IF my temps hadn't dropped from their highest point and no spotting or cramping. I definitely won't be testing early now. I'm sure I won't have to wait very long, but due to the Clomid, I won't be late until 15dpo.

I also often have terrible insomnia 1-2 nights before AF and just now I've been feeling these weird gassy sensations I felt for a few days before AF came last time on Clomid. But it could be just gas...

I FEEL very warm, actually hot, so I was very surprised by my temp. I don't think it's my thermometer as I temped earlier around 6am (after no sleep at all) and my temp was still low, 98.34, but not THIS low. And both times I temped I checked my temp 3x in a row and got basically the same temps, respectively.

[Beautifulrainbow]

Beautifulrainbow I'm sorry I'm still not seeing a line :( but it could just be its not photographing well which is very common! Hope to see it darken nicely over next few days!

519b48 Ovulation charts on FertilityFriend.com (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/519b48) no it is negative I don't see a line either, it just after reading a new feedback last night I don't have and confidence in the test anymore. So I'm going to buy some new ones later.
Sorry I confused everyone with my spelling mistake!
i was meant to write bfn not BFP sorry all

[Beautifulrainbow]

Maiden fingers crossed for an implantation dip!

[maidentomother]

BR was just posting the pic for me to see if I recognised the test brand. :) She knew it was BFN, plus she's just 9dpo and didn't temp until after her positive OPK so O date could be off too.

Those tests do look a bit like SurePredicts but they aren't quite the same and packaging is totally different.

[purple]

BR, I haven't used that particular test but in general internet cheapie tests from ebay have super faint lines when you test early and that isn't until at least 11dpo. I have never got a line earlier that that on those tests. FRERs are the best for early testing but much more expensive.

[Beautifulrainbow]

My chart what do you all think?
My lp is usally 15 days?

[maidentomother]

Looking quite good IMO. Though I do wonder just a tiny bit if you maybe Oed later on CD18/19, since you don't have any pre positive OPK temps. Just to keep in mind if AF is late and you're pulling BFNs at 17dpo.

[purple]

It is hard to analyse it much with the first half of your cycle missing. Those temps are in the post-O range for me but I don't know what you are normally. It also reminds me of DS1's chart the way it climbs up, then falls and then climbs up again but I have had other charts do that too.


I think I might be gearing up for ovulation soon... I'm cd25 and ovulated cd28 and cd31 after my first two miscarriages.

[Pbn3]

Hey everyone I'm sorry to be a real downer and I know this very sadly happens all around the world... there's been an abduction turn murder of a 15 month old in my country, she was snatched out of her pram by a man mid morning yesterday in a city park, a couple states away, and certainly not anyone I know and I may just be oversensitive but I'm so upset with this outcome. I've cried and cried and cant believe this is how its ended - was so hoping for a happy outcome. Just devasted for this family. So please lets all hug our own a little tighter tonight and if you are religious then by all means share a prayer for this family. I have never posted anything like this before but this tradgedy has really hit home :(

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[Beautifulrainbow]

How sad pbn3. I heard one in my area the other day that made my heart ache...a mother stamped her 21 month old daughter to death!

Um.... I did a supermarket test I had stored in my drawer for when the time came around, and since I'm off to get some more today I thought why not.....I watched the red ink run across the test only saw one line pop up so I just threw it on the side walked off shrugging my shoulders when my hubby picked if up and said... there is a faint 2nd line there.
Only problem is I cannot for the life of me get it to show up in the photo. I'm shaking like a leaf. Well we will know more over the next few days. Fx

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[purple]

I saw that in the news Pbn, it is very sad and scary :( There are so many sad things that happen in the world so I really try not to let myself think about it too much but yes sometimes the news stories can really get to you and make you quite emotional.


BR... that sounds very promising! It will be faint for 9dpo. Fx that line gets darker!!

[maidentomother]

That's awful Pbn3. :(

BR, not to be discouraging, but it is most likely still the trigger, especially as it showed up late snd is faint. The trigger can show a faint line as late as 16dpt on sensitive tests. You need a stronger line to confirm pregnancy after a trigger. I hope you get one soon, maybe tomorrow?

[Beautifulrainbow]

I'm still taking it with a pinch of salt maiden I still marked it as negative on ff

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[Beautifulrainbow]

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Only Trialed this one (boots brand of test strips) because the test I originally wanted to buy were out of stock
Fx crossed it maybe getting darker I could not get this mornings one to show up in the photo

[jennypenny]

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Only Trialed this one (boots brand of test strips) I wanted to buy were out of stock
Fx crossed it maybe getting darker I could not get this mornings one to show up in the photo

Oooh I can see a second line!!!!

Fx you get a darker one tomorrow! Keep us updated [emoji51]

[XXforhubby]

Whew! BFN for me this morning [emoji3]! AF should start sometime today. I have pink CM so it's a matter of time.

I'm relieved! The thought of two kiddos 13mo apart was a bit scary! I'm glad that I get to sway for a bit longer. I'm proud of the sway I've put together over the past two weeks and feel like I have a decent shot at pink starting in April/May.

Plus, I had a long LP of 14-15 days, which is great since I'm still nursing! I could have Oed either CD16 or CD17. Our only attempt was CD18. We missed it by a narrow margin.

I can't wait to see more BFPs!


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[ksmom]

Ahhh! I totally see that pink line BR!!! FXFX it keeps getting darker!!

XX, best of luck to you with your sway! :) I hope you get your girl!

Pbn, is it time for you to test yet?! lol I can't wait, I'm impatient!

Maiden that dip totally looks like an implantation dip to me so FX it is. :) I know what you mean about Murphy's law. I know that I'm not guaranteed a girl using the Femara but my take on it is, if I do try this cycle and get pregnant with a boy, I might always wonder what if. On the flip side though this could be the cycle that gets me a girl solely because I've done the diet and exercise for so long. I'm so over this cycle anyway with being on cd28 with no sign of O in sight.

[maidentomother]

Ksmom, I understand about the dreaded 'what if'. Gotta do what you feel comfortable with. I don't believe in implantation dips...I do think my temp will go back up tomorrow, but I'm not optimistic that it will be anywhere near as high as it was. Ever since I've decided to consider testing at 10dpo if my temps etc look good and no spotting or cramping, I've had a temp drop on 9 or 10dpo, or spotting, and don't test, and get AF.

XX, I'm happy you're happy!

[essnce629]

I see that line easily BR! I hope it continues to darken nicely.

[Pinklady35]

Had a whole raft of blood tests done at the doctors having hcg , fsh, lh, estraiadol, the whole shebang!!! I'm really nervous about what the results will be should know by tomorrow or Tuesday at latest. Am now ten/eleven days late feels like the longest cycle in the world!!! My last negative pregnancy test was last Friday:sat haven't been able to face the disappointment since to test again. No symptoms at all for either pregnancy or af.... Taking loads of supplements to try and improve my egg quality . Cq10 macca root, dhea, folic acid pregnant care surprised I don't rattle when I walk :) anyway will let you all know what they say not filled with confidence tho as I had to explain to the doctor what Amh was and why it was relevant :/ I actually feel quite nauseous tonight but have managed to control myself better from an emotion point of view . I know eleven days late isn't huge but it feels like a life time to me. Just wanted to say congrats to all the bfp s I've read about tonight ... Congratulations �� Xxx

[maidentomother]

Glad you're getting checked out, pink lady. Could all those supplements you're taking be making you nauseated?

[Pbn3]

Ksmom thank you! I'll be trying to hold off testing until friday :)

BR I cant wait for your next update! Hope the line darkens nicely over the next few days!

Xxforhubby I'm happy for you but disappointed at the same time lol!

Maiden looking forward to seeing what your temp does next!

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[XXforhubby]

Awe, thanks Pbn3! I just wanted to give my sway a proper go and was thrown off when my AF didn't come and second guessed when I Oed. I'm glad to know that my instincts were right and I Oed when I thought I did based on CP and CM.

BR and Pbn3- I can't wait to see your tests! I'm Xing everything for you two!

Maiden- I saw in another post you thought AF was coming soon. It's strange how it seems we are cycling together again! I hope AF stays away for you though. I'm also excited about your new donor and wouldn't at all be surprised if that does the trick, if you don't get a BFP this time.


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[Pbn3]

Oh William Tyrell is a name I'll never forget :( much like Daniel Morcombe :(

I'm taking my boys to the park later today, I just couldn't fathom this ever happening to me. It's really awful, just gut wrenching to think about.

Where are you at cycle wise 1moregirl? Are you 2-3dpo?

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[maidentomother]

I was thinking about our being in sync again too, XX. :) And I've always thought I'd conceive immediately with a better/the right donor. Provided I didn't just jinx myself.

I think child assaulters/molesters should be killed personally, if there is incontrovertible proof. I don't believe they can be rehabilitated. Obviously this would not include teens sleeping with college partners type cases.

Based on my crazy front uterine and ovarian cramping that just started up (exact same thing happened last time on Clomid at same DPO & time of day), I think AF is coming soon. Though it did take 3 days last time...but that was without a huge temp dip the day prior. These pinches/cramps are much more intense, too.

[Beautifulrainbow]

Opps....
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Was laying half asleep for a long time before finally waking fully to do my temp hoping this is the cause for the dip!

[Pbn3]

I hope so BR! But temps can fluctuate up and down even on a bfp chart :) When are you testing again?

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[Beautifulrainbow]

I already did and got another faint line
Not sure if it's darker that yesterday either

[Pbn3]

Have or can you get a pic if yesterdays and today's side by side?

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[Beautifulrainbow]

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[Beautifulrainbow]

It's so hard to get the cameras to focus in on these lines, the closer I get the more blurry it wants to stay

[Pbn3]

That looks darker to me BR!!! I bet you're going to be our next bfp!!!! Cant wait for next couple days tests but I'd be feeling pretty confident!

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[Beautifulrainbow]

Thanks pbn, I hope so... I got a tingling feeling in my breasts and a constant feeling of trapped wind really really low in my belly. I don't normally feel like that coming upto af, I have been getting really sore breast the week before but nothing in the belly area until day of AF. Then again I have had different drugs this time so they may just make my body react differently. Still taking it with a pinch of salt and marking it as negative on ff.
I got some of the boots plastic stick one. Says can detect 5 days before missed period, That would be today, but feeling I should wait a little longer.
Do you think it would show up on that test better than these test strips?

[Pbn3]

How many have you got? I would've done it already lol but I'm hopeless when it comes to holding out testing! If you've got a few then go for it I say but that's coming from a poas! I'm definately not a good influence in this area!

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[Beautifulrainbow]

How many have you got? I would've done it already lol but I'm hopeless when it comes to holding out testing! If you've got a few then go for it I say but that's coming from a poas! I'm definately not a good influence in this area!

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I got 1 box of 2 and I can pick some more up anytime but I'm still on the fence. Holding back just incase it's false positive

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[Pbn3]

That's a really good idea! Hold out if you can!

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[Beautifulrainbow]

That's a really good idea! Hold out if you can!

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Yup good idea if I can, but looks like I don't have the will power ha ha.
I did the early test pbn and I think your right it has got darker, because the line I had on the plastic supermarket one yesterday wouldn't show up in the photo Today's one is showing up in the photo!
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[jennypenny]

Yup good idea if I can, but looks like I don't have the will power ha ha.
I did the early test pbn and I think your right it has got darker, because the line I had on the plastic supermarket one yesterday wouldn't show up in the photo Today's one is showing up in the photo!
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Woohoo!! I cam totally see a second line in that one!!

[Pbn3]

Eeekk!!!! So exciting BR!! I want to say congrats so much but will wait until you feel its a bfp for real!!!!

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[Beautifulrainbow]

Will test over the next few days and you ladies can help me tell if it's darker! Exciting if it is. Because it's still so early for me to spot a bfp. 24 weeks on my 1st. Had a slow grower on my 2nd so they stayed faint for the longest time had to be confirmed by blood test. And 3rd I was 6 weeks. So this would be the earliest. And it would be all thanks to you ladies and this site. I have learnt soooo much since coming here!
Will check in with you all again tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing other ladies bfp

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[Beautifulrainbow]

Waiting to hear from maiden.x

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[Pinklady35]

Will test over the next few days and you ladies can help me tell if it's darker! Exciting if it is. Because it's still so early for me to spot a bfp. 24 weeks on my 1st. Had a slow grower on my 2nd so they stayed faint for the longest time had to be confirmed by blood test. And 3rd I was 6 weeks. So this would be the earliest. And it would be all thanks to you ladies and this site. I have learnt soooo much since coming here!

Will check in with you all again tomorrow. Looking forward to seeing other ladies


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Hi just wanted to say congrats on the bfp and I hope all works out for you xx secondly wanted to ask about your previous pregnancies not showing up on hpt ?? Is that right, how long did it take for them to show?? Last one I did was five days ago and it still was negative. I am now eleven days late and I've been to doctors last week for blood tests when I was seven days late. Not sure what's going on its never happened before and it's freaking me out as I'm on day 40/41 of my cycle. So is it possible I guess is my question there could be a baby in there even tho I don't feel at all pregnant. The alternative is there's something c
Gone badly wrong in there as I have never ever been this late before ever

[maidentomother]

BR, the line definitely looks like it is darkening! Yay! Btw, waiting to temp while not fully asleep will artificially raise, not lower your temp.

I woke up to light pink spotting and I had cramping in the middle of the night/early am. My temp is up from yesterday but not enough/as much as I'd like. Not that it matters as I'm sure I'm out. Either cramps or spotting alone is a death toll, both and that temp drop is a guarantee. I just wonder how long I'll have to wait to start bleeding. I did spot lightly the day before AF last time on Clomid too.

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[Beautifulrainbow]

The 1st pregnancy, I was told before I couldn't have children, because I wasn't getting periods, how wrong was that doctor.
Anyway I didn't get a positive test went to the doctor and they tested and tested still couldn't find the pregnancy. Sent me for bloods nothing showed up apart from I was making milk hormone. I was called a strange girl. Went and saw a specialist. He wanted to squeeze me breast to see if the milk came out. I refused and went home. A few weeks later I felt this strange feeling in my belly. Thought I had been abducted by aliens or something lol. Ran another hcg test this time it was positive. Went back to see doc at that point they told me I felt about 16 weeks. Sent for a scan 2 weeks later they told me no you 24+weeks and you having a boy ha ha!
There was an investigation into why the docs were telling me I wasn't pregnant and it turns out that they had a batch of faulty rests and after about a month of negatives they stopped looking.

2nd I got an implantation bleed (only time I have spotted the implantation bleed) negative tests for about a week or so after then faint positive tests. When I was about 5 weeks I got awful cramps so was sent for early scan and there they could not find the pregnancy so they made me do a test in front of them. The also got a very faint positive so decided to do the blood test to 100%confirm and to check the numbers were doubling they called me back 2 weeks later for another scan and only then they said oh we can see the pregnancy now but your not 7 weeks your only 5. Did argue that I had to be 7 weeks cuz of the implant bleed the just said all baby's grow the same at this stage I'm 5 weeks. I later gave birth to a nearly 10lber at nearly 3 weeks. I later learnt about slow growers. So I'd say that's what I had because he was so big being born sightly early. I think in fact he was over due. 3rd I was on the pill and didn't test until I was 6 weeks (well the doctor tested) I went in with a water infection passing blood too thinking I was dying come out with a pregnancy ha ha.
In my cases either we was not looking for them or (I'm thinking ) a slow grower.
When 1st started swaying my AF went missing too it went doe about 3 months. Fingers crossed that there maybe a bfp in there somewhere.
How long have you been swaying what is you calories like and what supps are you taking.
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[Beautifulrainbow]

BR, the line definitely looks like it is darkening! Yay! Btw, waiting to temp while not fully asleep will artificially raise, not lower your temp.

I woke up to light pink spotting and I had cramping in the middle of the night/early am. My temp is up from yesterday but not enough/as much as I'd like. Not that it matters as I'm sure I'm out. Either cramps or spotting alone is a death toll, both and that temp drop is a guarantee. I just wonder how long I'll have to wait to start bleeding. I did spot lightly the day before AF last time on Clomid too.

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Aw hun I hope not I was so hoping that this was your month too.x

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[maidentomother]

Great stories BR. Crazy stuff. You'll have to be pregnant for both of us as this is definitely not my month.

[twointow83]

BR the line definitely looks darker... and that's on my phone! I can hardly ever see faint lines on my phone so I would say your line isn't all that faint :) Congratulations! FX it keeps getting darker and we see you over in the EDD group soon!!

🙏 for a healthy 🌈 🚼
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[purple]

The line looks like it is getting darker BR, hopefully it continues that way!!

Sorry you think AF is on it's way Maiden.

I was able to get into the fertility specialist this Friday so I was surprised they had a spot that soon. I guess I will just see what he says. I'm not sure if the will let me go on clomid next cycle or make me wait 3 months or something stupid like that. Now that it is an option I'm feeling impatient like I want to do it now!

[Beautifulrainbow]

Great stories BR. Crazy stuff. You'll have to be pregnant for both of us as this is definitely not my month.
Noo. I'm welling up.x would have been absolutely fab to have had you as my very close dd buddy as well as o date buddy. I'm going to continue to stalk you know matter what you don't get rid of me that easliy

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[Pinklady35]

The 1st pregnancy, I was told before I couldn't have children, because I wasn't getting periods, how wrong was that doctor.
Anyway I didn't get a positive test went to the doctor and they tested and tested still couldn't find the pregnancy. Sent me for bloods nothing showed up apart from I was making milk hormone. I was called a strange girl. Went and saw a specialist. He wanted to squeeze me breast to see if the milk came out. I refused and went home. A few weeks later I felt this strange feeling in my belly. Thought I had been abducted by aliens or something lol. Ran another hcg test this time it was positive. Went back to see doc at that point they told me I felt about 16 weeks. Sent for a scan 2 weeks later they told me no you 24+weeks and you having a boy ha ha!
There was an investigation into why the docs were telling me I wasn't pregnant and it turns out that they had a batch of faulty rests and after about a month of negatives they stopped looking.

2nd I got an implantation bleed (only time I have spotted the implantation bleed) negative tests for about a week or so after then faint positive tests. When I was about 5 weeks I got awful cramps so was sent for early scan and there they could not find the pregnancy so they made me do a test in front of them. The also got a very faint positive so decided to do the blood test to 100%confirm and to check the numbers were doubling they called me back 2 weeks later for another scan and only then they said oh we can see the pregnancy now but your not 7 weeks your only 5. Did argue that I had to be 7 weeks cuz of the implant bleed the just said all baby's grow the same at this stage I'm 5 weeks. I later gave birth to a nearly 10lber at nearly 3 weeks. I later learnt about slow growers. So I'd say that's what I had because he was so big being born sightly early. I think in fact he was over due. 3rd I was on the pill and didn't test until I was 6 weeks (well the doctor tested) I went in with a water infection passing blood too thinking I was dying come out with a pregnancy ha ha.
In my cases either we was not looking for them or (I'm thinking ) a slow grower.
When 1st started swaying my AF went missing too it went doe about 3 months. Fingers crossed that there maybe a bfp in there somewhere.
How long have you been swaying what is you calories like and what supps are you taking.
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I'm not eating red meat at all, I'm not really dieting as such I find it really hard with my job but I'm skipping breakfast most of the time, doing running three times a week between three and six miles. I finished a round of Ivf in Feb which didn't stick. It was a fresh transfer so followed my natural cycle. Was due on the 1st/2nd March and af arrived on the 3rd! That was last period had not a sniff since then!!! I am taking folic acid, magnesium, 200 cq10, 50mg of dhea and mac a root to improve my egg quality as I've got ovarian decline. My test results come back today well lh, hcg, fsh, and estriadol anyway as well as iron and some other stuff. Don't know if they will tell me over the phone. I don't feel pregnant at all but on the other hand I've never been this late before either. Doing my head in

[Beautifulrainbow]

I didn't feel pregnant with any of my 2nd amd 3rd boys until a maybe around 8 weeks in. With my 1st obviously a lot longer he he.
I'm not sure what some of those supps are. Have you run them past atomic. When I first came here I was taking do many different supps (half of them swayed boy) atomic advised me to drop them!
Do you know if and when you o'd this cycle? Are your cycles us ally regular?

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[Beautifulrainbow]

No I have not noticed cramps 2dpo. I have notice i still have alot of creamy cm and sometimes a little bit of ewcm.
I would guess at that maybe because we are all ttc we are more alert to what is happening with our bodies. Or maybe you over did it yesterday? Or its a good sign? Fx for you though.xxxx

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[XXforhubby]

Huge congrats BR!! I can't wait to see what the next few tests show. I just know you have a sticky bean growing in there [emoji8]!


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[XXforhubby]

Maiden- I too am wondering when AF will show. I've had pink CM off and on and also cramping but nothing else so far. This is so strange for me. It must be the exercise. Weird though since I've exercised far harder before while nursing and it didn't effect my periods.

Looks like we are more cosmically aligned than we think [emoji6]!


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[Beautifulrainbow]

Thankyou all I hope so too!

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[Beautifulrainbow]

Will update with another test tomorrow

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[Princess Mom]

Going for second beta today, I opened my last box of frer today and yesterday control line was more faint than today. I'm driving myself mad.

[ksmom]

On cd29 now and my temp is now in post-O range along with a high reading on the advanced OPK. :confused: My cm has been most definitely infertile since cd24 and still is so surely I'm not gearing up for O? I'm just ready for AF to get here already. :sigh:

BR can't wait for your next test!! FX for a sticky bean! :)

Princessmom, I totally understand! It's anxiety inducing to go through a loss or losses then get pregnant again and then POAS like a mad woman. I hope your little one is super sticky and your beta results are good. Keep us posted.

[Princess Mom]

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[Beautifulrainbow]

Fx crossed princess mom.
Ksmom do you have pcos?

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[Beautifulrainbow]

Woo hoo princess mom that looks really good to me!

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[ksmom]

BR, no I don't have PCOS surprisingly. The RE said I may have a *slight* tendency toward it simply because my AMH is on the higher side and my O is somewhat irregular. She said I have no other symptoms of it so she doesn't think I actually have it.

[Beautifulrainbow]

Your cycle sounded like mine. Lol I have pcos. I hope you o soon if you have not yet ksmom

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[ksmom]

Thanks BR. I don't think I've O'ed yet according to my temps (or at least not when I thought I did) but my body sure is acting like I did O several days ago. It's ironic that I'm waiting to O so I can get AF so I can start meds to help me O! lol

[maidentomother]

Ksmom, I think you Oed 2 days ago on CD27 and no sooner. As for the advanced OPK, you can't just stop using it for a while. It looks like you probably missed your Peak. After O, it will always give you High readings.

Purple, glad you got an appt so soon.

1moregirl, bromelain, the enzyme in pineapple core, makes me cramp like crazy. But I've had mild cramping around 2dpo in several TTC cycles. I think maybe it's the fallopian tubes contracting, or corpus luteum pain.

Princess, those new FRERs don't show progression well. Also you may be encountering the hook effect at this point. I urge you to stop testing.

XX, I hope AF shows soon for us both. I'm eager to take some ibuprofen for my worsening cramps.

pinklady, if you exercise any less than 60 minutes minimum 6 days a week, that actually sways blue. So if you can't do the full amount do none at all. Eager to see your test results!

[Pinklady35]

So I rang the doctors again and my blood tests have come back, apparently the doctor has only looked at one my estriadol level and asked that I make an appointment to see them. The cold receptionist won't fit me in tonight as they're full they have no appointments left at all so I have to ring on the day in the morning. Clearly it's not going to be good news , does anyone know that with a bad result is a baby impossible at my age ( I'm 36) I'm so close to a melt down you wouldn't even believe

[Beautifulrainbow]

Thanks BR. I don't think I've O'ed yet according to my temps (or at least not when I thought I did) but my body sure is acting like I did O several days ago. It's ironic that I'm waiting to O so I can get AF so I can start meds to help me O! lol
Know the feeling I just been through all that!

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[Beautifulrainbow]

pinklady, if you exercise any less than 60 minutes minimum 6 days a week, that actually sways blue. So if you can't do the full amount do none at all. Eager to see your test results!
Oops I think I swayed blue then as I exercised when I could! But I did absolutely no exercise at all with my 3 boys

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[essnce629]

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WooHoo, you beat the control line! That's about as good as it gets and I think you can stop testing now!

[Pinklady35]

Ksmom, I think you Oed 2 days ago on CD27 and no sooner. As for the advanced OPK, you can't just stop using it for a while. It looks like you probably missed your Peak. After O, it will always give you High readings.

Purple, glad you got an appt so soon.


1moregirl, bromelain, the enzyme in pineapple core, makes me cramp like crazy. But I've had mild cramping around 2dpo in several TTC cycles. I think maybe it's the fallopian tubes contracting, or corpus luteum pain.

Princess, those new FRERs don't show progression well. Also you may be encountering the hook effect at this point. I urge you to stop testing.

XX, I hope AF shows soon for us both. I'm eager to take some ibuprofen for my worsening cramps.

pinklady, if you exercise any less than 60 minutes minimum 6 days a week, that actually sways blue. So if you can't do the full amount do none at all. Eager to see your test results!

Really ... That's a bit rubbish, I actually managed to get in the doctors they had a cancellation and apparently I have a slightly elevated hcg result . The last thing I was expecting, I have to another one but I have to wait wait two weeks until they can get me in, I don't think I can wait that long I might have to go private at some point this week. He did say it might be a chemical pregnancy , everything else is apparently within normal range. Estriadol maybe slightly on the low side but not massively and everything else was fine I'm so relieved. I'm so happy all my baby making machinery is ok it's been an emotional roller coaster. By all accounts if it is a baby in there it's no doubt a boy because I haven't been swaying pink really, especially with us saying that about the exercise and other half had only just started cranberry supplements then. So I guess I can do nothing but wait... It's so weird I feel nothing even remotely like pregnant. My boobs were so sore and massive with both boys almost straight away. This whole thing is just a head mash xxx

[Pinklady35]

Hah hah me neither for either of my two boys but I suppose I have to wait and see now what these other hcg tests come back as. If there is a baby there it's due around 5th December . Be lovely if we had managed to cook up a pink princess but time will tell I suppose. Got find out first what's going on and then does anyone know if it's is a chemical and the levels drop will af arrive naturally on its own or does it need some help???

[Beautifulrainbow]

Really ... That's a bit rubbish, I actually managed to get in the doctors they had a cancellation and apparently I have a slightly elevated hcg result . The last thing I was expecting, I have to another one but I have to wait wait two weeks until they can get me in, I don't think I can wait that long I might have to go private at some point this week. He did say it might be a chemical pregnancy , everything else is apparently within normal range. Estriadol maybe slightly on the low side but not massively and everything else was fine I'm so relieved. I'm so happy all my baby making machinery is ok it's been an emotional roller coaster. By all accounts if it is a baby in there it's no doubt a boy because I haven't been swaying pink really, especially with us saying that about the exercise and other half had only just started cranberry supplements then. So I guess I can do nothing but wait... It's so weird I feel nothing even remotely like pregnant. My boobs were so sore and massive with both boys almost straight away. This whole thing is just a head mash xxx
I just read maidens reply too and I was fitting in an hour when I could probably was averaging every other day. The last month was just so busy!
Never mind what done is done. There is always a chance at pink

Fx crossed you have a pink sticky bean in there. Maybe a slow grower! Also I don't think 36 is old to get a baby my mum was 36 with my youngest brother!

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[ksmom]

Pinklady, if it is a chemical then AF should arrive on her own. With all three of mine, AF arrived a day or so after the tests had become very faint. I know some ladies though that have to wait maybe a week or so after AF normally arrives.

[maidentomother]

AF full on here now. I hate how it keeps coming in the evening!

[Beautifulrainbow]

I'm so sorry maiden was so hoping it would be your month, that was a short lp.

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[maidentomother]

It's my normal LP length actually.

[Beautifulrainbow]

Really I thought everyone's had to be the very minimum of 10days

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[maidentomother]

Mine averages 10 days but 8 or 9 days isn't uncommon for me. Sometimes I have even shorter ones, as few as 4 days, but not often. I've always had a shorter LP. It's not that unusual.

[ksmom]

Oh Maiden I'm so sorry AF arrived!! :( Every month I'm rooting you on, hoping you get your BFP.

[tfahn]

Sorry AF showed Maiden. One of these months we will get our BFP!

[tfahn]

Just got back from my RE appt, I think it went really well. Met with a different doctor in the practice today and really liked her. She was really impressed with my knowledge I think, lol. That's what happens when you are on a fertility board for a year. :) She was going to up my dosage of Clomid this month since they still weren't happy with my estradiol numbers and the later ovulation but I bought up Femara and she said she really likes that drug and uses it but only for certain groups of infertility patients. Well she looked at my AMH level and was happy with it and said I would be a great candidate. So starting tomorrow I will be 7.5mg days 3-7.

Also she asked if I would be willing to come in for an ultrasound before I ovulate, and I was like YES, I was wondering why that hasn't been brought up in the past and she wasn't sure either. So on CD13 I will be going in to see how my follicles and lining are doing.

Another great thing I learned today was what awesome insurance coverage I have, I switched 2 months ago and hadn't really looked into it much. My new plan covers IUI and up to 4 retrievals of IVF, all completely covered. I couldn't believe it, its nice knowing that's there if need be. I am excited to be trying something different, it gives me hope.

[maidentomother]

I hope so! I might take a break though, after this cycle. I really don't want a Spring or Summer baby and I'm sick of TTC.

[Princess Mom]

Sorry maiden :(

[twointow83]

Really I thought everyone's had to be the very minimum of 10days

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It's not impossible to get pregnant with a short LP. The problem is that anything less than 10 days risks the endometrium sloughing off before the egg can implant, or before it can produce enough hormones to rescue the corpus luteum (the remnants left when the egg pops which produces prog precenting menstruation).

🙏 for a healthy 🌈 🚼
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[Beautifulrainbow]

Thankyou twinintow I must have read something similar to that! Thanks for clearing it up!

[Beautifulrainbow]

Think I have pulled my stomach muscles not sure how though. Have not done anything for 2days, but everytime I stand up, sneeze or cough today I get sharp ripping pains down the side of my stomach so pad I'm doubling over! Ouch

[sharon]

Well i have had my lh surge today, very strong +ve opk and im only on cd13! Anyone know why i would ovulate a week earlier than usual ? So ill be testing in 12/13 days

[Pbn3]

Tfahn what a fantastic outcome to your appointment!! How exciting to try femara instead and u/s cd13!! The insurance cover would have been a lovely surprise! Cant wait to follow you this cycle!

Maiden I'm sorry af arrived but I'm also so excited about new donor!!! Will be a whole new level of excitement this cycle!

Princessmom tests are looking as good as they can get!

Ksmom hope you did o and af is on her way so you can get this next ttc going!

Pinklady glad to hear all your results came back normal! Strange about the elevated hcg I will be very interested to see what happens with your bw.

Beautifulrainbow sorry to hear you've possibly pulled something :( hope it heals quickly

1moregirl I have noticed cramps from 2-4dpo on quite a few of my cycles but I hope it means good things for you :)

Afm - my chart is looking quite nice with temps holding steady but its a bit early to get excited lol. I don't know how I'm going to hold out till Friday to test!!! Might test thursday (9dpo) with frer and digi on Saturday/Sunday...



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[Pbn3]

How great getting your lh surge a week early Sharon!! Are you temping to confirm o? I would maybe keep using opks over the next week in case its a false surge?

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[sharon]

beautifulrainbow- congrats on your bfp :) Are you swaying pink ?

[sharon]

pbn3 i hadnt thought of that oh i hope its not a false surge! I dont temp no as im not a great sleeper and can still be up n down to my youngest so iprob wouldnt get accurate readings :/ Thats what ill do actually, ill just keep taking opks incase

[Pinklady35]

Tfahn what a fantastic outcome to your appointment!! How exciting to try femara instead and u/s cd13!! The insurance cover would have been a lovely surprise! Cant wait to follow you this cycle!

Maiden I'm sorry af arrived but I'm also so excited about new donor!!! Will be a whole new level of excitement this cycle!

Princessmom tests are looking as good as they can get!

Ksmom hope you did o and af is on her way so you can get this next ttc going!

Pinklady glad to hear all your results came back normal! Strange about the elevated hcg I will be very interested to see what happens with your bw.

Beautifulrainbow sorry to hear you've possibly pulled something :( hope it heals quickly

1moregirl I have noticed cramps from 2-4dpo on quite a few of my cycles but I hope it means good things for you :)

Afm - my chart is looking quite nice with temps holding steady but its a bit early to get excited lol. I don't know how I'm going to hold out till Friday to test!!! Might test thursday (9dpo) with frer and digi on Saturday/Sunday...



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I know I nearly keeled over in shock, not getting my hopes up yet tho all I'm glad about is that at least it's not because I'm not menopausal

[Quinn31]

Just got back from my RE appt, I think it went really well. Met with a different doctor in the practice today and really liked her. She was really impressed with my knowledge I think, lol. That's what happens when you are on a fertility board for a year. :) She was going to up my dosage of Clomid this month since they still weren't happy with my estradiol numbers and the later ovulation but I bought up Femara and she said she really likes that drug and uses it but only for certain groups of infertility patients. Well she looked at my AMH level and was happy with it and said I would be a great candidate. So starting tomorrow I will be 7.5mg days 3-7.

Also she asked if I would be willing to come in for an ultrasound before I ovulate, and I was like YES, I was wondering why that hasn't been brought up in the past and she wasn't sure either. So on CD13 I will be going in to see how my follicles and lining are doing.

Another great thing I learned today was what awesome insurance coverage I have, I switched 2 months ago and hadn't really looked into it much. My new plan covers IUI and up to 4 retrievals of IVF, all completely covered. I couldn't believe it, its nice knowing that's there if need be. I am excited to be trying something different, it gives me hope.

Wow. Do you live in the US?! That's awesome coverage.

[tfahn]

Yes in the US, Pennsylvania. My husband switched jobs a few months ago so we went on my employers coverage. It's pricer but no deductible, I'm just hopeful when the policy renews in June the price doesn't change too much. I was very surprised that the IVF was covered, that's almost unheard of.

[Beautifulrainbow]

My temp is back up this morning 11dpo

[Beautifulrainbow]

beautifulrainbow- congrats on your bfp :) Are you swaying pink ?
Yes I tried to sway pink but my exercise wasn't upto scratch now that might have swayed blue hoping it was just enough of an oposite, did zero with my boys

[Beautifulrainbow]

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I guess I need to start admitting to myself that this is real. That's my BFP! I'm pregnant, I'm in shock!

[Pbn3]

Wow that is fantastic progression BR!!! Huge congratulations on your definate bfp!!! When is your due date?

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[Pinklady35]

Yes I tried to sway pink but my exercise wasn't upto scratch now that might have swayed blue.oping it was just enough of an oposite, did zero with my boys

Might be joining you there , did a hpt this morning and for the first time ever since I started testing about two weeks ago I see a really faint line. I'm hoping this is a sign that there is something in there and b it's a girl something as this never happened before with my previous two boy pregnancies and my boy miscarriage last year. They all showed up straight away and I knew I was pregnant before my period was due with all of them. I now have mild boob tingling normally at this point I'm a size bigger.. Like I'm an e or an f cup when they were born and I'm normally a 32/c/d . Anyway take a look at this pic for me and see if you can see it too it's faint so I thought I might have imagined it.30769

[Pinklady35]

Congratulations to you :) when is your due date.???

[Beautifulrainbow]

Just worked it out from lmp. 25.12.16
My Xmas present of a baby girl hopefully

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[Pinklady35]

Yes in the US, Pennsylvania. My husband switched jobs a few months ago so we went on my employers coverage. It's pricer but no deductible, I'm just hopeful when the policy renews in June the price doesn't change too much. I was very surprised that the IVF was covered, that's almost unheard of.
That is awesome make good use of it, wish we had something similar in the uk x x x fingers and toes crossed for you x

[Beautifulrainbow]

Might be joining you there , did a hpt this morning and for the first time ever since I started testing about two weeks ago I see a really faint line. I'm hoping this is a sign that there is something in there and b it's a girl something as this never happened before with my previous two boy pregnancies and my boy miscarriage last year. They all showed up straight away and I knew I was pregnant before my period was due with all of them. I now have mild boob tingling normally at this point I'm a size bigger.. Like I'm an e or an f cup when they were born and I'm normally a 32/c/d . Anyway take a look at this pic for me and see if you can see it too it's faint so I thought I might have imagined it.30769
Woo hoo I can see that line! Congratulations let's hope it just keeps getting better!

[Pbn3]

Pinklady I can easy see a faint line!!! Eeeeekk think we are going to have two bfps in one day!! Congratulations! And I hope it darkens nicely for you over the next few days!! Are you already doing 48 hour bw due to elevated hcg from your last test?

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[Pbn3]

Wow BR a Christmas baby :) one of you ladies will have to start the due in dec/jan/feb thread!

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[Pinklady35]

Woo hoo I can see that line!

Omg can you???? It's so freaky I'm trying not to get too excited as it may all come to nothing but surely if six days ago it didn't show up on a test at all and it was the same brand tescos then surely that must be a good sign.? Do you think u have done enough to have a pink bean in there or are you not bothered either way. If this sticks I don't think I have , I just have to to hope that the one shot was enough tbh I didn't expect to have a go this month and it be successful ! I was panicking because I thought there was something dire going on in there and I wasn't going to be able to have a baby again. I'm relieved now even if it turns out to be chemical, or something that I have another chance and it's not all over xx when is ur due date by the way?

[Pinklady35]

Just worked it out from lmp. 25.12.16
My Xmas present of a baby girl hopefully

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That would be amazing, mine would be the 5th December I think

[Beautifulrainbow]

Maybe you o'd later? I had too look on my iPad but yes I saw the faint 2nd line
If you did o later they may correct te date at the dating scan and may end up closer to me [emoji12]
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[Pinklady35]

Pinklady I can easy see a faint line!!! Eeeeekk think we are going to have two bfps in one day!! Congratulations! And I hope it darkens nicely for you over the next few days!! Are you already doing 48 hour bw due to elevated hcg from your last test?

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Can you believe I have to wait two weeks to get a blood test at my doctors then a few days for the results to come back. Far too long so I think I will arrange a private blood test for Friday and see what the results are then. Irritatingly the doctor didn't tell me what the result actually was other than it was elevated and I forgot to ask I was that relieved I wasn't menopausal 😵

[Beautifulrainbow]

Can you believe I have to wait two weeks to get a blood test at my doctors then a few days for the results to come back. Far too long so I think I will arrange a private blood test for Friday and see what the results are then. Irritatingly the doctor didn't tell me what the result actually was other than it was elevated and I forgot to ask I was that relieved I wasn't menopausal 😵
Did you say your in the UK?

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[Pinklady35]

Maybe you o'd later? I had too look on my iPad but yes I saw the faint 2nd line

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Maybe never thought about that to be honest in which case I have no idea when we may have done it... After all the build up of bd ing a lot more than we ever normally do I think we left it a week after I thought I ovulated before we even did it again. Knackered with work life kids etc the will was there the energy wasn't hah hah x

[Pinklady35]

Did you say your in the UK?

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Yep in the lovely north west place of eternal rain

[Beautifulrainbow]

Can you believe I have to wait two weeks to get a blood test at my doctors then a few days for the results to come back. Far too long so I think I will arrange a private blood test for Friday and see what the results are then. Irritatingly the doctor didn't tell me what the result actually was other than it was elevated and I forgot to ask I was that relieved I wasn't menopausal 😵
How old was you in think you did say but can't remember (ha ha baby brain already ha ha joke) lm 31 and thought I was going through the early change then they told me I had pcos

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[Beautifulrainbow]

Yep in the lovely north west place of eternal rain
Just like Wales Then where I am! 1 day of sunshine followed by 3 weeks of rain ha ha

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[Beautifulrainbow]

Maybe never thought about that to be honest in which case I have no idea when we may have done it... After all the build up of bd ing a lot more than we ever normally do I think we left it a week after I thought I ovulated before we even did it again. Knackered with work life kids etc the will was there the energy wasn't hah hah x
I only know I o'd when I did because I had scans and trigger shot. It has been so tiring over the last few months busy with children and getting the hubby to and from work and fitting all the extra fertility appointments. We didn't bd for 8 days after o

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[Pinklady35]

Just like Wales Then where I am! 1 day of sunshine followed by 3 weeks of rain ha ha

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Im36 now getting on a bit �� , I have low ovarian reserve so not many eggs but everything else at least is firing on all cylinders. Love the Wales am going to Anglesey on Friday for my friends sons birthday . Much more scenic than lovely Manchester where we are . Still can't believe ur due on xmas day, Noel or a holly maybe ��

[Beautifulrainbow]

Maybe middle name lol we already have a 1st name if it's a girl. I probably won't make it as far as my due date I probably think it's going to be a week or 2 before

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[Beautifulrainbow]

I'm going to have close birthdays my middle son is already on Nov 29th

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[Pinklady35]

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Just re looked at this now and the line is so much clearer

[Pinklady35]

I'm going to have close birthdays my middle son is already on Nov 29th

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All my boys are summer babies July and April, I'm October 25th and my husband is a week later on November 1st. I would love love love a little girl I really hope that this time on our fourth (hopefully) pregnancy that we get pink. It must be our time surely .... On Ivf we got two girl embryos so hopefully my pink dream will be complete. Ive got a first and middle name as well chosen for a girl and a whole nursery that I would like....she would be drowned in pink. I can see her in my head but so far she's not made into a reality.

[Beautifulrainbow]

Me too!

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[Beautifulrainbow]

Wish it was as easy as telling you ovaries what you want. 5 weeks til my 1st scan it's going to draaaagggggg!

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[jennypenny]

Just worked it out from lmp. 25.12.16
My Xmas present of a baby girl hopefully

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Awe that would be fantastic!!

U will be like Mary and Joseph xxx

[jennypenny]

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Just re looked at this now and the line is so much clearer

Ooooh looks positive to me!!! Xxx

[Pinklady35]

Wish it was as easy as telling you ovaries what you want. 5 weeks til my 1st scan it's going to draaaagggggg!

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Have heard about a blood test you can have at about 9 weeks costs about £200-300 and it will tell you if it's a boy or a girl. Friend of mine had one and it was right so it deffo works

[jennypenny]

Wish it was as easy as telling you ovaries what you want. 5 weeks til my 1st scan it's going to draaaagggggg!

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Just trying to remember back, did u have one attempt after your trigger shot? How many days before ovulation so you think it was?

I'm getting soooo fed up of this 2ww! It's going unbelievably slowly!!! 5dpo today xxx

[Beautifulrainbow]

Just trying to remember back, did u have one attempt after your trigger shot? How many days before ovulation so you think it was?

I'm getting soooo fed up of this 2ww! It's going unbelievably slowly!!! 5dpo today xxx
I had a shot Thursday 31st in the morning.it was meant to have been Wednesday night and atomic advised us to get an extra shot in because of my pcos and if has taken so long so that was early Friday morning and I o'd then around 11am on the friday
4 more days and you may start seeing your bfp fingers are crossed for you
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[jennypenny]

I had a shot Thursday 31st in the morning.it was meant to have been Wednesday night and atomic advised us to get an extra shot in because of my pcos and if has taken so long so that was early Friday morning and I o'd then around 11am on the friday
4 more days and you may start seeing your bfp fingers are crossed for you
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Cool that sounds great! So happy for you!!!

I'm not getting overly optimistic, have no symptoms whatsoever! Although the only symptom I had with my boys early on was sore hip joints (think that was the day's close to when I tested which was after AF was due).

I used to be so patient, what's happened to me hahaha!!

[Beautifulrainbow]

Cool that sounds great! So happy for you!!!

I'm not getting overly optimistic, have no symptoms whatsoever! Although the only symptom I had with my boys early on was sore hip joints (think that was the day's close to when I tested which was after AF was due).

I used to be so patient, what's happened to me hahaha!!
Only symptoms I had at 8dpo was that I snapped at the hubby stressd angry with the children (poor them lot lol) which I us ally get at least once before my AF arrives but then when I ordered a coffee that day the batista smiled at me and I started welling up she must have thought I was crazy lol. I have had a backache and sore stomach musles but I don't think it is symptoms. I think that's from sitting on the floor playing with lego with my boys for too long. Never notice any symptoms at all with my 3 boys until about 8 weeks

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[purple]

Oops I think I swayed blue then as I exercised when I could! But I did absolutely no exercise at all with my 3 boys


It isn't ideal for a pink sway but when you have PCOS any excersise is better than none! I do moderate excersise as I can't fit much else in when working full time (I ride to work so even then I'm getting two things done at once :) )

Congrats on you BFP!!


AF full on here now. I hate how it keeps coming in the evening!

Sorry AF arrived. I'm sure I read somewhere that more girl mums get AF in the evening.


Congrats Pinklady35!!


I think I'm maybe ovulating today, I have my usual O pain but sometimes it goes over a few days. I normally know I have o'd once I have sore nipples.. that is my non-technical way of knowing since I'm avoiding temping and opks!

[Beautifulrainbow]

Glad you know your body purple. Are you ttc this month?

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[Beautifulrainbow]

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[Mulberry Smurf]

Aw so sweet!! :) xx

[purple]

Glad you know your body purple. Are you ttc this month?


I'm not preventing :) We had an attempt last night so it would be good timing if I did ovulate today.

[maidentomother]

tfahn, what a great appt! I am soooo excited for you to be on Femara, and highest dose! I think that will get you your BFP. :)

BR, you're definitely pregnant, congrats to you and pink lady, I hope you both have girls in there.

[Beautifulrainbow]

Thankyou maiden.x

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[tfahn]

Thanks Maiden, I really hope the Femara makes the difference this month. I too am getting tired of trying and the disappointment every month after a year but if we want another baby I can't take a break due to my age. Are you going forward with trying with the new donor this month? I really hope that does the trick for you.

[maidentomother]

Yes I'm working hard to arrange things with new donor. The plan is to get daily attempts in the 3 days before O. I will use up the last of my Gonal F and do 4 days of low dose FSH injections starting today.

If everything goes as planned I will be very optimistic. The new donor is far superior in many eays, except he's busy, an hour away at best, and travels a lot (within Germany, thank god) for work.

[Beautifulrainbow]

Fx for you maiden so wishing it be your turn next.xxx

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[Princess Mom]

Beautiful flowers!

[Princess Mom]

I am anxiously waiting for doc to call me with my results! Receptionist said their in but doc hasn't viewed them yet she will soon! I can't even eat in so nervous!
I did take my last frer and test is way better today! I don't have any symptoms! Boobs feel little tender at times and at night I get little nauseated not a lot might be from being tired. This pregnancy is very different

[Beautifulrainbow]

I am anxiously waiting for doc to call me with my results! Receptionist said their in but doc hasn't viewed them yet she will soon! I can't even eat in so nervous!
I did take my last frer and test is way better today! I don't have any symptoms! Boobs feel little tender at times and at night I get little nauseated not a lot might be from being tired. This pregnancy is very different
Mine is different do far too. I got tingle tender breast. Which i never had with my boys but the my 3rd pregnancy was different from the 1st 2

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[XXforhubby]

Gorgeous flowers BR!

FX for nice and high betas Princess!!

Still.No.AF. This is crazy! I'm going to buy some FRERs this weekend and retest Sunday. This is beginning to remind me of when I was pregnant with my DS2 :/ I should have known not to bother with a blue dye test- they don't work for me ever! Even when I got positives on others, they are either faint or negative.

I do have symptoms but it could be due to progesterone. The only ones that give me pause is my milk supply is lower and my breasts are soft, like the first day or two when AF arrives. DS3 doesn't like the taste and has been fussy at the breast, which didn't happen when I got my first postpartum period in March. These started on Friday so I thought AF would arrive that night or Saturday. AF should have been here last Wednesday. So weird


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[essnce629]

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Top yesterday
Bottom today
I guess I need to start admitting to myself that this is real. That's my BFP! I'm pregnant, I'm in shock!
WooHoo BR! Beautiful lines today! Definitely a BFP now! Congrats!

[essnce629]

And congrats to you too Pinklady! Your second line is definitely there! I hope you can get a private blood test and don't have to wait two weeks! I'd go crazy!

So sorry AF found you Maiden, but I'm feeling positive about your new donor! FX he's what you need!

XX-- I'm still thinking your AF is missing due to breastfeeding and not sleeping. Like I said my 2nd and 4th postpartum AF never showed up and it wasn't till the 5th cycle that things normalized. My milk supply would also plummet with every AF early on (I'd go through my entire freezer stash of BM)!

[XXforhubby]

That's never happened to me before, but I guess anything is possible! We will see what happens. It's weird that my milk supply is low and my breasts feel softer and no AF though. It always happens to me when I get AF and no other time. Plus, DS3 acts like my milk tastes bad, which didn't happen when I had AF last time.

One thing is certain, things get crazy when TTCing!


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[Inforthree]

Got my IUD out today! Ready to TTC! 😁

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[Pinklady35]

Yes I'm working hard to arrange things with new donor. The plan is to get daily attempts in the 3 days before O. I will use up the last of my Gonal F and do 4 days of low dose FSH injections starting today.

If everything goes as planned I will be very optimistic. The new donor is far superior in many eays, except he's busy, an hour away at best, and travels a lot (within Germany, thank god) for work.

He sounds like a much better option than the last guy. I hope you get your sticky bean , I have a good feeling about this guy. It will definitely be worth the travel if it turns out to a bfp xxx

[Pinklady35]

Gorgeous flowers BR!

FX for nice and high betas Princess!!

Still.No.AF. This is crazy! I'm going to buy some FRERs this weekend and retest Sunday. This is beginning to remind me of when I was pregnant with my DS2 :/ I should have known not to bother with a blue dye test- they don't work for me ever! Even when I got positives on others, they are either faint or negative.

I do have symptoms but it could be due to progesterone. The only ones that give me pause is my milk supply is lower and my breasts are soft, like the first day or two when AF arrives. DS3 doesn't like the taste and has been fussy at the breast, which didn't happen when I got my first postpartum period in March. These started on Friday so I thought AF would arrive that night or Saturday. AF should have been here last Wednesday. So weird


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This happened to me so yeah if af doesn't arrive keep testing as I'm nearly two weeks late and have only just shown up on a hpt and blood test! That's never happened to me before and I'm still not sure why. I'm not 100 percent sure what's going on in there I guess I will have to wait for another blood test. Going to see if I can sort one for Friday as a two week wait for doctor will drive me mad

[Pinklady35]

Mine is different do far too. I got tingle tender breast. Which i never had with my boys but the my 3rd pregnancy was different from the 1st 2

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Yep me too very different no symptoms at all very strange. Sometimes feel a little sick at night like you princess mom but that's about it. I'm hoping its cos there's a girl in there

[ksmom]

XX, my milk supply dipped once after having DS2 when AF was near. I'd never had that happen before either as I normally am an overproducer. Babies sometimes get fussy at the breast when AF is coming soon, I think due to the hormonal changes.

Purple I hope you O soon so you can catch the egg! Tons of sticky baby dust headed your way.

Congrats Pinklady!!! I hope this is your little girl on board. :)

Tests are looking good BR! Lots of sticky pink dust to you!

Inforthree, best of luck TTC. So exciting!

Maiden, I have a good feeling about this new donor. I hope this cycle is the one you get a BFP! It's not fair how long you've been at this! I think you were right that I O'ed a couple of days ago. My temp was up again today giving me crosshairs on FF. It must have been a really weak O though as I had NO fertile cm whatsoever, it was very thick and creamy plus I had no pos. OPK except for the ones 5-6 days prior and I had no O pains like I usually do (although last cycle I had no O pains but ultrasound confirmed O). This cycle has been the strangest!

[Princess Mom]

Beta yesterday was 1248 at 16-17 dpo! I am doubling every 30 hours! Way faster than with my DS who now 2!

[XXforhubby]

This happened to me so yeah if af doesn't arrive keep testing as I'm nearly two weeks late and have only just shown up on a hpt and blood test! That's never happened to me before and I'm still not sure why. I'm not 100 percent sure what's going on in there I guess I will have to wait for another blood test. Going to see if I can sort one for Friday as a two week wait for doctor will drive me mad

Were you breastfeeding too? I have always had my supply dip before AF, but I never had it dip and AF didn't show up for 6+ days. So strange. My DS2 was a slow cooker and didn't get a positive until 21dpo.

Huge congrats pink!!

[afrevert23]

Hi ladies! I haven't read any of the updates, but wanted to share with y'all that I am miscarrying. It is very heartbreaking, especially since I miscarried in Jan. I'm not sure why my first two pregnancies were viable and healthy, and now I am experiencing miscarriages. I hope my doctor will be able to provide more insight.

[Pbn3]

I'm so sorry afrevert :( I hope you get some answers.

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[ksmom]

Oh afrevert I'm so very, very sorry! I also have had two healthy kids but since swaying have had three losses in a row. I sought out an RE to get help. I agree with you about seeing if the doctor can do some testing to see what the problem may be. How far along were you when miscarried? Again, I'm so sorry.

[essnce629]

I'm so so sorry afrevert. How old are you? I also had two healthy pregnancies (both oops so I never even TTC) but then a miscarriage after swaying. My best friend also had 2 healthy boys and then swayed for a girl and had 3 miscarriages in a row. She ended up seeing an RE and is now 37 weeks pregnant with a girl! I hope you get some answers and that your sticky bean is right around the corner. I'd ask for the MTHFR blood test as having the mutation increases your chance of repeat losses. I have it and I'm now on baby aspirin. Also ask for your ferritin (iron stores) to be tested. Low ferritin can cause poor egg quality. After my miscarriage, mine was 8. Ideal is 70-90! I've been working on getting my ferritin in the normal range for 16 months now (prescription iron 3 times a day) and it's still not in the normal range (was 46 at my last test). FX for you.

[afrevert23]

Thank you, ladies. It was an early miscarriage, I will be 5 weeks tomorrow. My one in Jan. was at 6 weeks.

Essence - Thank you for the advice! I will be sure to ask my doctor for those blood tests. There does seem to be a lot of miscarriages associated with swaying girl. I'm not sure my heart can handle another one. It is nice to hear that your friend has gone on to have a successful girl pregnancy. I'm worried that my body is only able to carry boys. My husband thinks that is ridiculous, but it worries me. I turned 31 this past Jan.

[Beautifulrainbow]

Omg I'm so sorry afervert I hope they can provide you with some more in sight. Something I wouldn't wish on anyone!
Afervert I also turn 31 this past Jan too, freaky lol!

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[jennypenny]

Thank you, ladies. It was an early miscarriage, I will be 5 weeks tomorrow. My one in Jan. was at 6 weeks.

Essence - Thank you for the advice! I will be sure to ask my doctor for those blood tests. There does seem to be a lot of miscarriages associated with swaying girl. I'm not sure my heart can handle another one. It is nice to hear that your friend has gone on to have a successful girl pregnancy. I'm worried that my body is only able to carry boys. My husband thinks that is ridiculous, but it worries me. I turned 31 this past Jan.

Oh no, I am so sorry to hear that!! It's just so upsetting when a miscarriage happens- even early on like this.
When I miscarried at 8 weeks a lot of people would say, at least it's so early. This never made me feel better!!

Take care of yourself and buy yourself a nice treat!! Xxx

[jennypenny]

I am 6dpo today, trying to distract myself!!!


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[Beautifulrainbow]

I'm sitting in Starbucks having a cup of tea that I have not had in months. Sure I had a bit of morning sickness. Can you get morning sickness 12dpo

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[Beautifulrainbow]

Omg and I can't wait to stop taking metformin. It makes my gas smell so bad it's embarrassing at times. Sorry tmi.

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[essnce629]

I'm sitting in Starbucks having a cup of tea that I have not had in months. Sure I had a bit of morning sickness. Can you get morning sickness 12dpo

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According to my FF chart with DS2, I was nauseous from 11dpo and started vomiting on 15dpo!

[Beautifulrainbow]

According to my FF chart with DS2, I was nauseous from 11dpo and started vomiting on 15dpo!
Wow thankyou for looking back through your charts for me essnce!

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[sharon]

beautifulrainbow congratulations! A christmas baby is lovely:cheerteam:

[sharon]

Im pretty sure i ov yesterday on cd 14, so 1dpo today, not feeling hopeful to be honest tho, we dtd once and it was day before +ve opk so prob around 48 hours b4 ov ! Which was the same as last month and obv didnt catch. Swaying girl so didnt attempt again xx:nails:

[sharon]

Can i ask a question, would it be okay to now take a b complex vitamin and B6 now since ive passed ovulation ? Im worried about helping baby stick if im preg as ive had early mc before and poss couple cp's. ? I didnt take anything except folate up to now . Tia

[purple]

Hi ladies! I haven't read any of the updates, but wanted to share with y'all that I am miscarrying. It is very heartbreaking, especially since I miscarried in Jan. I'm not sure why my first two pregnancies were viable and healthy, and now I am experiencing miscarriages. I hope my doctor will be able to provide more insight.

I'm so sorry afrevert23 :( It is really hard having two in a row. Apparently it is quite common to have 2 consecutive miscarriages but a lot less common to have 3 in a row. I'm not sure if that helps much but I have found it helpful to remember as I have had 2 in a row now so I'm pretty scared about having another one if I get pregnant again.

[sharon]

Gr8 numbers Princessmom, hopefully thatl be a lovely baby girl in there then x

[Pinklady35]

Thank you, ladies. It was an early miscarriage, I will be 5 weeks tomorrow. My one in Jan. was at 6 weeks.

Essence - Thank you for the advice! I will be sure to ask my doctor for those blood tests. There does seem to be a lot of miscarriages associated with swaying girl. I'm not sure my heart can handle another one. It is nice to hear that your friend has gone on to have a successful girl pregnancy. I'm worried that my body is only able to carry boys. My husband thinks that is ridiculous, but it worries me. I turned 31 this past Jan.

I am so sorry to hear that news it's awful you must be devastated. You need some time to heal and get over what might have been. It's not going to make you feel better but sometimes miscarriages happen because there's something wrong with the embryo. It's easy to go down that dark road of thinking it's going to keep on happening but it could just be a horrible coincidence. Have the tests and see what they say. Don't loose hope xxx

[ksmom]

Ummmm....
:suprise:
30798

Can you see it?? It's definitely there IRL, it's just really faint. I took a cheapie HPT last night and got the faintest line ever. FF says I O'ed on cd27 but that's impossible if I'm on cd31 today. My temps are all messed up from travel so I can't really go by them but I *think* I O'ed on cd23 based on when my cm dried up and O pains so that would make me 8dpo. Not super reliable but obviously I O'ed at some point. lol Oh my gosh I about fainted this morning. The RE's office is supposed to call me back to set up an appt. for blood work. I'm super anxious to have that done after having three losses in a row now, I'm so paranoid!

[Beautifulrainbow]

Ummmm....
:suprise:
30798

Can you see it?? It's definitely there IRL, it's just really faint. I took a cheapie HPT last night and got the faintest line ever. FF says I O'ed on cd27 but that's impossible if I'm on cd31 today. My temps are all messed up from travel so I can't really go by them but I *think* I O'ed on cd23 based on when my cm dried up and O pains so that would make me 8dpo. Not super reliable but obviously I O'ed at some point. lol Oh my gosh I about fainted this morning. The RE's office is supposed to call me back to set up an appt. for blood work. I'm super anxious to have that done after having three losses in a row now, I'm so paranoid!
I think I can see it but I'm on my phone. I'm sure it's there though! Will look on my iPad now!
congratulations.x

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[essnce629]

I see it on the FRER ksmom! If you're only 8dpo then that seems about right with how faint it is. I hope it continues to darken and that this is finally your sticky bean!

[XXforhubby]

Congrats Ksmom! I totally see the lines on both tests!

So happy for you! Sticky, baby, stick!!


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[mommymachine]

Ksmom I am so happy for you!!! I hope and pray this is sticky for you!!!


Mommy to 5 with number 6 due in June!!

[Mulberry Smurf]

Yay that's exciting hope that all goes well ksmom xx

[Throwaway_panther]

I think I can see it but I'm on my phone. I'm sure it's there though! Will look on my iPad now!
congratulations.x

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This was how faint mine both were at 8DPO, and I ran out to get a ClearBlue that said "Pregnant" or "Not pregnant," and it said pregnant! Might want to try one for the big wowwee picture! ;)

Congratulations!

[ksmom]

Thank you everyone! :HH: I've got the order from my doctor to get the blood work done at an outside lab. I probably won't be able to go until tomorrow.

Throwawaypanther, I've got a few CB digitals but I'm afraid to take them! My levels never got high enough last time to register "pregnant" on the digital so of course I'm worried about the same thing happening again.

[Pbn3]

Omg ksmom!!!!!! Congratulations and I'm so happy for you!!! I'm glad your getting bw started as it will be such a relief to see those numbers double. Congratulations again and wishing you a h&h sticky pregnancy :)

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[Beautifulrainbow]

Woo hoo April is being awesome for bfps

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