Day 45 of cycle

[jensy]

Hi Ladies, has anyone got any suggestions in inducing period? I'm extremely late and have been having cramps for two weeks with no periods.I had an ultrasound with a thick lining.I have reduced my excercise to 5 days and increase fat intake.

[maidentomother]

Have you Oed? Could you be pregnant? Do you have PCOS? Irregular cycles? Taking Vitex, Saw Palmetto, or drinking peppermint tea?

[atomic sagebrush]

You can't bring on a period, it will come 14 days after you O. I have seen nothing but bad results trying to bring it on with unnatural means (liek herbs and stuff). The only things I ever recommend are hot bath, spicy meal esp. invoving garlic, and sex with female O.

:agree: with reducing exercise and increasing fat. When you say "increase" can you please spell that out for me?? AS in, if you were eating 10 grams of fat and are now eating 20, that is still not gonna be enough.

[atomic sagebrush]

Have you Oed? Could you be pregnant? Do you have PCOS? Irregular cycles? Taking Vitex, Saw Palmetto, or drinking peppermint tea?

Yes need to know all these things

[jensy]

Thank you for replying :) I'm not taking peppermint tea and I have been having blood tests done to determine when I'm ovulating and will continue until the clinic determines when I'm actually ovulating, they haven't picked up anything yet nor have I had positive ovulation strips or change in temperature.I did take taking vitex again in hope it would regulate my cycles.I stopped for a while and starting taking it two weeks ago.I have only had irregular cycles the last 3 cycles.This is by far the most irregular and I have been testing for pregnancy for the last two weeks with negative tests.Its weird I'm experiencing cramps, which almost feels like its coming but nothing happens.I will try a hot bath and some spicy food.I have increased at least 10g of fat from 50, now sitting at 60g (still from peanut butter,mayo,extra yoghurt).In regards to PCOS all my scans and hormone testing(bloodworks) come back fine, although they did find numerous cysts on my right ovary, which have reduced from 30 at one stage.

[maidentomother]

What is your BMI/height and weight?

You can't get a period until you O. You may get some spotting/light bleeding I.e. breakthrough bleeding, but you won't get a proper AF so absolutely no point trying to bring it on. Instead you want to bring on O! Csn you get meds to help with that? Has your dr suggested a plan of action? Are you currently TTC?

I would drop the Vitex completely, in this kind if situation it could be making things worse. Were you tracking your cycles/using OPKs prior to 3 months ago?

[jensy]

Ol that makes sense why it's not coming.I'm 5'3 and BMI is 19.I may need to push for metoformin.They did say that if I wasn't ovulating in another month then I would be referred to a specialist who may be able to give this to me.We have been TTC for the last 5 months or so and yes the last few months I have using ovulation tests,tracking CM and my temperature on and off.I will stop using vitex,I thought it may help but maybe it's delaying o?

[maidentomother]

It's possible your cycles have always/oftenbeen irregular and you just didn't know until you started charting thoroughly. That is very common! Most of us are not nearly as regular as we think.

Your BMI is low so PCOS is unlikely but it is possible to have slim PCOS. Have you lost a lot of weight recently? What CD did you O in your last 2 cycles?

I think you would benefit from Clomid/Femara to stimulate O/make it happen earlier. I wonder why Metformin was suggested instead if your bloodwork etc is all normal? Unlrss you hsve PCOS you shouldn't need Metformin.

Vitex can delay or even completely prevent O for some women.

[jensy]

That's very possible! I got pregnant first go with my son and didn't do much tracking before.I have lost weight from having him 18 months ago but have put back on a kg and half the last two weeks.I'm a few kg lighter from pre pregnancy with him.The last two cycles,I couldn't pinpoint a day.I'm not sure why they suggested that,maybe I will question them on this if it comes to me needing assistance for ovulation.

[maidentomother]

I'm not sure how much you've told them, but if possible, I would tell them you've always had irregular cycles and late O. That may prompt them to prescribe Clomid/Femara which you may actually need and which will help your pink sway significantly. If you're entirely truthful they may want you to TTC for a year before being willimg to prescribe anything. Just don't ask for anything outright, most drs don't respond well to that. Instead say you're worried about your long, unpredictable and irregular cycles and is there anything they can suggest to help you O earlier?

How long have you been on the LE diet/swaying? Are you doing any exercise? It's possible that this long cycle is a one off in reaction to the recent lifestyle changes, and won't be a problem again. And if you hadn't ever taken any Vitex, you may have Oed long before now. How long were your last 2 cycles?

[jensy]

Thank you so much for your help! I'm booking an appointment to see a specialist about this in the next week or so and mention exactly that.Ok, so here is my last few months of cycles.
March- haven't had a period
February- got my period on the 18th-22nd
January-got my period on the 13th until the 17th
December-got my period on the 8th-12th

[maidentomother]

So your cycles are a bit on the long side (longer than 35 days is considered 'too long') so I do truly think you need a little Clomid/Femara, though this current cycle may just be a one off due to you having started swaying. OR your cycles could be more irregular than you realised. I hope you can get an appt soon and that it is productive!

Sometimes with thin PCOS bloodwork can be normal but there are other symptoms like long/irregular cycles, short LP, cysts on ovaries etc. And many OBGYNs won't think to check for PCOS with thin gals. But an RE/FS should, so I'm really glad you'll be seeing a specialist.

[jensy]

Yeah,I will be glad to see them as I honestly think I do have it by the sounds.I started swaying 6 months ago.Started on veg diet and now swooped to PCOS diet plan.

[jensy]

I just got a called from the ovulation specialist and she said that it looks like I will be ovulating as it shows in my blood.We dtd last night so hopefully I do ovulate now and all works out.

[maidentomother]

Fx for you! BD again 4 days later just in case you O later. It's impossible to predict when you will O in advance; you can have an LH surge and fail to O. All bloodwork/OPKs can tell you is that you MIGHT O soon. Given your cycles as of late, I would cover your bases. You might even consider BDing E4D from now until whenever you get AF or a BFP. That way you for sure won't miss O.

[jensy]

Would that be Thursday of its Monday here in AU or Friday? Do you think it's likely that if I do ovulate my periods might show early rather than 14 days after? That won't leave very much time for implantation of that does happen??

[jensy]

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[atomic sagebrush]

What is your BMI/height and weight?

You can't get a period until you O. You may get some spotting/light bleeding I.e. breakthrough bleeding, but you won't get a proper AF so absolutely no point trying to bring it on. Instead you want to bring on O! Csn you get meds to help with that? Has your dr suggested a plan of action? Are you currently TTC?

I would drop the Vitex completely, in this kind if situation it could be making things worse. Were you tracking your cycles/using OPKs prior to 3 months ago?

:agree: yes exactly that's what I meant to say - if it isn't ready to come it won't come, but if it is and is just hanging on for a day or two then the hot bath, spicy food, sex with female O can't hurt anything.

:agree: yes please drop vitex

[atomic sagebrush]

I love these threads where I show up and I don't even have to do anything LOL. (thanks maiden)

Your cycles are fairly regular but yeah I'd still try to parlay that into Clomid. Don't mention the Vitex to them

[maidentomother]

Would that be Thursday of its Monday here in AU or Friday? Do you think it's likely that if I do ovulate my periods might show early rather than 14 days after? That won't leave very much time for implantation of that does happen??

If you last BdEd on Monday, you would BD again on Thursday. You CAN wait a day longer but I wouldn't at this point.

It doesn't matter how late you O, the time it takes for AF to come after will stay roughly the same. If your LP is usually 14 days it should be 14 days this cycle too.

Those particular strip OPKs are very inaccurate and unreliable; they give tons of false positives. Can you get some ClearBlue Digital OPKs (NOT the Advanced dual hormone ones) or some Ovuplan strips?

[jensy]

I will go get some digital ones and see what happens:-) thank you for all your advice! I will update you on the digital.

[jensy]

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[jensy]

First time in months of trying I was able to get a smiley face :-)

[Mulberry Smurf]

Woohoo! Are you going for an attempt? Xx

[jensy]

We DTD on Sunday(AU) time and won't be able to now until Thursday,it's Tuesday here because my husband is interstate at the moment.I hope it all works to plan :)-

[jensy]

I did eat quite bad the last two weeks but did keep up with exercise and skipping breakfast.Should I be taking my fibre caps throughout this week and limiting fat and protein or just keep doing what I would normally do? Today I have just had a salad s/w on multigrain with salad and almond milk chai latte.I will have a snack in the next 4 hours, some yoghurt with fruit and rice and veggies for dinner with an apple?

[maidentomother]

Yay! Be sure to stick to diet all cycle long. Meals looks good.

[jensy]

The digital has turned into a circle now,does that mean i possible ovulated yesterday?

[maidentomother]

Not necessarily, you can O before or after OPKs go negative.

[jensy]

thanks for all your help!! Hopefully I have positive news in the next few weeks :-):-):-)����

[atomic sagebrush]

Good luck!!!!