What is it about the girl sway makes conceiving more difficult?

[happyheart]

Hi ~

I was wondering what exactly it is about the girl sway that makes it more difficult to conceive?

I am on clomid and will be starting my second round soon. I am reconsidering my sway and thinking about what I need to cut out or reduce to conceive more quickly.

My sway is clomid, folic acid, LE diet, lots of diet coke and CL (from af to o, since I didn't drink it during the 2ww), DH drinking lots of diet coke and CL too, frequent BD and through ovulation, and a few ion things.

I will be adding preseed to my sway.

My dh wants me to start my prenatal again. He thinks that it may be hurting our chances of conceiving. Is this true??? Is there anything about taking the prenatal that will help us hold onto a conception? We are pretty certain that I had a chemical this cycle.

Thank you for any help!!!

Any suggestions as well!! :) :)

[rainbowflower]

you lower your fertility, make your uterus/CM more hostile, reduce total CM, and lowering sperm count reduces chances too. All of those things can make it hard to conceive. Those who do a cut-off have an extra obstacle too as you only have a 30% chance each cycle if DTD on OV day and if you have normal fertility... so it's already less than that for a pink sway.

I guess it's possible that not taking multivits will make it take longer... but then they also go against a lot that the LE diet is about. Then again, if you are taking months and months to conceive and doing any diet that isn't necessarily healthy either and if you don't get pregnant you have no chance of getting a girl.

[zanacal]

I'm so sorry you feel you had chemical hh. {hugs}

Are you taking baby aspirin? I was taking it less regularly leading up to our attempt but every day during the 2ww and I'm weaning myself off it now. I believe the way that helps is that it thins the lining so that there's more veins and stuff for the bean to hold in to (I think I Lola wrote this somewhere!). I believe it's sometimes recommended to take with Clomid too.

[happyheart]

you lower your fertility, make your uterus/CM more hostile, reduce total CM, and lowering sperm count reduces chances too. All of those things can make it hard to conceive. Those who do a cut-off have an extra obstacle too as you only have a 30% chance each cycle if DTD on OV day and if you have normal fertility... so it's already less than that for a pink sway.

I guess it's possible that not taking multivits will make it take longer... but then they also go against a lot that the LE diet is about. Then again, if you are taking months and months to conceive and doing any diet that isn't necessarily healthy either and if you don't get pregnant you have no chance of getting a girl.

Thank you! :) I agree... taking the multi would be going against the diet...

[happyheart]

I'm so sorry you feel you had chemical hh. {hugs}

Are you taking baby aspirin? I was taking it less regularly leading up to our attempt but every day during the 2ww and I'm weaning myself off it now. I believe the way that helps is that it thins the lining so that there's more veins and stuff for the bean to hold in to (I think I Lola wrote this somewhere!). I believe it's sometimes recommended to take with Clomid too.

Thank you zanacal!! I am not taking baby aspirin, but I will definitely will think about taking it!!

Is there anything else you would change in my sway?

[zanacal]

My explanation of why it's good to take aspirin was not good lol! Atomic posted this link and said it's sometimes prescribed to ladies taking Clomid to help with lining:

http://www.babyhopes.com/articles/what-is-baby-aspirin-and-how-is-it-related-to-fertility.html

[happyheart]

My explanation of why it's good to take aspirin was not good lol! Atomic posted this link and said it's sometimes prescribed to ladies taking Clomid to help with lining:

http://www.babyhopes.com/articles/what-is-baby-aspirin-and-how-is-it-related-to-fertility.html

Thank you!! :)

[pinkdreams]

I have researched the baby aspirin quite a bit after learning of it's benefits from Atomic, a few friends have recurrent miscarriages and I was telling them about the benefits. I feel very good about what I have read and have included it in my sway and plan to take it for the first few weeks after a BFP as well. I would be concerned that the prenatals would make you too "healthy" and goodness knows tons of people conceive without them. I am not under the impression that they do anything specific to aid in conception. I am not taking them during my sway but will take them as soon as I get a BFP as well as a good DHA. I actually am so excited about the prenatal and DHA I just ordered. They sound really great and it's driving me nuts that I can't take them yet but it's worth it. As long as you take the folic acid you are good to go!

[rainbowflower]

I'd talk to your GP before taking any aspirin when TTC - as said above it's a blood thinner so will only really help those women who have recurrent MCs due to "sticky blood". In healthy women it can actually be harmful.

[Sassy]

I agree with rainbowflower however, I do think a small dose of baby asprin *shouldn't* be too harmful. I am ordered to take it when ttc because of recurrent MC and I take it all through my pg. Talk to your GP or Ob (whoever is prescribing your clomid) and get their thoughts on it. They may test your blood first.

[zanacal]

I'd talk to your GP before taking any aspirin when TTC - as said above it's a blood thinner so will only really help those women who have recurrent MCs due to "sticky blood". In healthy women it can actually be harmful.

Do you think the same of Cranberry rainbow? I think it's scary the amounts I see some ladies taking when swaying!

[swish]

I was taking aspirin every other day, I'm in he 2ww, should I keep taking it? I thought it helps the baby implant, how can it be harmful? To me or potential bub?

[rainbowflower]

zana - I think extreme levels of most supps can be risky without medical supervision! Some of them can cause long term damage if you take too much (i.e. Vit B6). I think aspirin. I don't know about cranberry as I haven't done any research on that... but if you don't exceed the dosage on the bottle I think it'd be fine.

The cranberry I have says to take 1-4 per day (200mg cranberry powder, equivalent to 5000mg per capsule), but it also says to talk to a doctor if you're pregnant or TTC... they could just be covering their backs, though, if no research has proved its safe rather than research proving it's risky.

[rainbowflower]

swish, have a look here: http://www.babycenter.com/404_is-it-safe-to-take-aspirin-during-pregnancy_1357403.bc


Studies have linked aspirin to various pregnancy complications. A few studies show that taking aspirin around the time of conception and in early pregnancy is associated with an increased risk of miscarriage. And some researchers believe that taking aspirin at adult doses during pregnancy might affect the baby's growth and may slightly increase the risk of a placental abruption.

[zanacal]

Here's a previous post on a similar subject:

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?4185-OB-is-advising-me-against-baby-Aspirin

I was happy to take it. I took it every 3 days leading up to our sway, the night of our attempt and every day in the 2ww and now I'm gradually weaning myself off it.

[pinkdreams]

swish, have a look here: http://www.babycenter.com/404_is-it-safe-to-take-aspirin-during-pregnancy_1357403.bc

While I do believe everyone should be careful and ideally consult their Dr. this article is referring to full strength aspirin, not the 81 mg. baby aspirin.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi ~

I was wondering what exactly it is about the girl sway that makes it more difficult to conceive?

I am on clomid and will be starting my second round soon. I am reconsidering my sway and thinking about what I need to cut out or reduce to conceive more quickly.

My sway is clomid, folic acid, LE diet, lots of diet coke and CL (from af to o, since I didn't drink it during the 2ww), DH drinking lots of diet coke and CL too, frequent BD and through ovulation, and a few ion things.

I will be adding preseed to my sway.

My dh wants me to start my prenatal again. He thinks that it may be hurting our chances of conceiving. Is this true??? Is there anything about taking the prenatal that will help us hold onto a conception? We are pretty certain that I had a chemical this cycle.

Thank you for any help!!!

Any suggestions as well!! :) :)

The thing with prenatals is, Vitamins A, D, E, K, iron, and B12 are stored in ample supply in the body. The other B vitamins, Vitamin C, and the minerals are all supplied amply by the LE Diet. Most prenatals don't even HAVE calcium (and calcium is stored by your body anyway). That leaves folic acid, which everyone should be taking anyway and iodine (everyone should use iodized salt and that is not in most prenatals anyway).

In order for vitamin deficiency to negatively affect fertility to the point where you are unable to conceive, you have to be seriously deprived of food for a long time. Like, years even. But I do believe your body can "detect" lower levels of nutrients right away and that is what does the swaying. You have a nice long cushion of time in which you can be on a very restrictive diet and remain fertile, and the LE diet is NOT very restrictive and in fact I designed it to be a diet that a person can spend a lifetime on and remain in perfect health.

Remember, most babies ever born on the face of the planet (including many of us) were conceived by women who were not taking prenatals and certainly not prior to pregnancy. When I was pg with DS 1, they didn't sell prenatals over the counter, they were prescription only and you started them after the first trimester!!!

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm so sorry you feel you had chemical hh. {hugs}

Are you taking baby aspirin? I was taking it less regularly leading up to our attempt but every day during the 2ww and I'm weaning myself off it now. I believe the way that helps is that it thins the lining so that there's more veins and stuff for the bean to hold in to (I think I Lola wrote this somewhere!). I believe it's sometimes recommended to take with Clomid too.

Yes, that is exactly how it is said to work and it is commonly given to everyone doing HT and also many people who are on Clomid.

[atomic sagebrush]

I'd talk to your GP before taking any aspirin when TTC - as said above it's a blood thinner so will only really help those women who have recurrent MCs due to "sticky blood". In healthy women it can actually be harmful.

Aspirin is believed to be safe in early pregnancy, it's only later on and particularly in the last trimester that it is dangerous. Most doctors believe that it can't hurt and may help prevent miscarriage, regardless of whether or not you have a clotting disorder. People with a clotting disorder have to take it throughout their pregnancy.

It could def. be dangerous/risky is placenta previa or placental abruption but in most cases, those things do not begin to pose problems until later into the pregnancy. That's why it's best to wean off it slowly once you get a BFP, just in case.

[atomic sagebrush]

I was taking aspirin every other day, I'm in he 2ww, should I keep taking it? I thought it helps the baby implant, how can it be harmful? To me or potential bub?

It is fine to do so Swish. All the HT ladies take it under advisement by their doctors.

[atomic sagebrush]

Do you think the same of Cranberry rainbow? I think it's scary the amounts I see some ladies taking when swaying!

I totally agree about the cranberry. Then some of them mix and match it with the baby aspirin too. not good.

Cranberry 100% for sure does cause miscarriage, proven. But for other reasons.

[atomic sagebrush]

While I do believe everyone should be careful and ideally consult their Dr. this article is referring to full strength aspirin, not the 81 mg. baby aspirin.

:agree: thank you.

I also think we need to keep in mind that most people take aspirin for things like illness or headaches, so rather than taking one tiny little baby aspirin, they go to their medicine chest and take 2 or 3 adult aspirin, maybe even more than once a day if they are ill or have a bad headache, and I believe it's this type of usage that the article is warning against.

To the best of my knowledge, one baby aspirin taken once a day or a couple times a week before pg and then weaned off gradually, will not hurt and may help baby to implant safely.