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1moregirl
May 26th, 2016, 10:24 PM
These are my levels. I had the test done 7 days after I Oed, so on CD 25. The numbers that are in brackets are the normal range).

FSH - 4. (1-12)
LH - 1. (1-20)
E2 - 228. (205-790)
PROG - 17.2 (5-95)

All these numbers seem to be on the low side to me, especially LH and FSH, but neither my GP now the Ob/gyn/FS that I saw recently said anything about it. They seem to believe my results are within the normal range. What do you ladies think? Atomic?

nuthinbutpink
May 26th, 2016, 10:51 PM
Why are you having testing on day 25? To confirm ovulation? This can't tell you anything about ovarian reserve. Those tests are done on day 2,3 or 4.

BunnyGirl19
May 26th, 2016, 11:26 PM
I agree. That's a weird, and wrong, day to test those. The only one done on the correct day was progesterone, which they test at 7DPO. The others should be tested on CD3.

1moregirl
May 27th, 2016, 02:41 AM
Really? The doctor just told me to get them done on any day, altogether, and only gave me one slip of paper for the blood work. The FS I saw last week didn't even mention what days in my cycle I should have what test done on. This is so god-damn frustrating! I have seen like 3 different doctors now and they can't tell me what cycle day I should get these diff hormones tested on. Seems ridiculous! So, obviously the only one I've gotten right this time is progesterone. Can you guys tell me which others I should have done on which day? Or do I get alll of these other three done on CD 2, 3 or 4? I have one slip of paper left from another doctor (for all the same tests, would you believe, and she told me to get them ALL done together on CD 3 I think), so will just get them done on CD 3 next cycle and see what they say. I wonder if any other ladies have had trouble with this in Australia? Feels like when it comes to fertility issues our doctors and Ob/etc, just aren't as up to date as those in the US and the U.K. Anyway, does my progesterone seem OK?

MrsGoodies
May 27th, 2016, 03:21 AM
Seriously STOP testing girl!

those are old results from last month...it doesnt mean squat for this cycle.

you could have good,bad,indifferent results it won't change whether you get pg or not....there is nothing those dr can do to fix it and make a perfect golden egg out of a pill....all it does is it just stresses you out....

"oh, this is tooo low...this is tooo high....must be getting up there....blah blah blah"

i know. I've been there. 5 years of fertiliry dr and NO baby. If they could make a baby out of their magic drug voodoo cocktails & protocols i'd have 20 kids by now....but they cant because they cant create life. All they can do is put the ingredients in a dish and PRAY something happens bc they are just men. Thats it. They dont create anything. They dont make a living soul. They cant force it to implant and grow inside you.

Sooooooooo....its hard but you

just have to

LET.IT.GO.

ENJOY BD.

whatever will B will B

you will see it will happen when you least expect it. :)

purple
May 27th, 2016, 04:45 AM
Based on what I was just told by my fertility specialist they like progesterone to be 30 or over and e2 to be over 300 on 7dpo.

I don't know if those numbers they gave me were just for medicated cycles like mine though as the values are in the normal range.

Pbn3
May 27th, 2016, 05:13 AM
1moregirl I had my amh and fsh testing done cd3 or 4? Cant remember exactly. I'm in Aus and my regular gp organised the bw and knew/or looked up what cd it needed to be done on. Sounds like you've been unlucky doctor wise.

I agree with everything mrsgoodies said. I gave up ttc after a 12/13 cycles ttc then one failed cycle on clomid (my fertility results were not good) and threw my remaining clomid, repeat scripts in the bin. I put away my thermometer and uninstalled ff from my phone. I felt so ready to move on and I was genuinely happier than I have been for over a year, it was such a freeing feeling! Me and dh had unprotected bd once and he hadn't released since our previous cycles attempts (I found out after bd). It was never considered an attempt anyway as after doing cycle after cycle of eod sometimes with extra attempt there was no way I was going to fall pregnant. I started making inquiries about going back to work 1-2 days/week. Then just because they were there leftover I tested using a frer over two days and got a bfp the 2nd day. I still cannot believe it and I'm now 5w 4d? I should never have gotten a bfp and still cant understand how I did, to me its a miracle!! I can only think it was because I completely let go and found happiness in how things were and the universe decided it was going to happen for me after all. Sorry for the big speil, I wanted to explain properly and I hope the same happens for you and you get your longed for bfp! Don't give up but on the same hand maybe don't try so hard? Does that make sense?

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Blueplease
May 27th, 2016, 07:21 AM
I'm also in Australia and had no issues with what I needed to get done. Was told cd2-3 and then cd10 for a certain scan (I can't remember the name)

Are you going HT with HRC??


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1moregirl
May 27th, 2016, 07:39 AM
BluePlease - I know HT is high tech but I don't know what HRC is sorry. No I'm not doing HT - just trying to conceive naturally.

atomic sagebrush
May 27th, 2016, 03:04 PM
This is about the 6th post today with doctors testing hormones at all the wrong times. Some things have to be testing on CD 3, others 3 or 7 DPO, and nee'r the twain shall meet. Soo, I am forced to draw a conclusion which is that a fair few of them are happy to order pointless tests possibly to get rid of us or placate us or something.

I agree with Mrs. Goodies. The numbers aren't going to help and yes just as she says there are sooo many women testing month after month after month and the doctors do not have any help to give them. And at the same time I have seen at least 3-4 dozen women on this very site told that they had no chance of conceiving at all by the doctors and given no hope at all who ended up pregnant with the Goldie the Golden Egg approach.

atomic sagebrush
May 27th, 2016, 03:05 PM
BluePlease - I know HT is high tech but I don't know what HRC is sorry. No I'm not doing HT - just trying to conceive naturally.

HRC is Dr Potter's clinic than many go to.

nicoler
May 27th, 2016, 04:45 PM
Having all normal test results doesn't mean you won't have any problems conceiving and having a result that is high/low doesn't mean that you can't conceive naturally (and even relatively easily!). In a clinical setting and taken together, a lot of these tests are used to assess possible ovarian reserve and how an individual might respond to fertility medications. Testing month to month doesn't provide any sort of valuable information as to how quickly or easily you might get pregnant. Obviously it is great to have values that fall within the normal range, but having all normal results really doesn't tell you a lot. And one slightly abnormal result doesn't tell you a lot either. It really does just come down to waiting for the right egg.

nicoler
May 27th, 2016, 04:59 PM
Also, you WANT FSH on the lower end. It means you should have good ovarian reserve yet. Your FSH is lower than mine when I had it tested at 32. FSH doesn't fluctuate as crazily as some of the other hormone values over the course of the cycle so I think you can rest assured that you aren't entering menopause.

Also keep in mind that the ranges provided usually reflect the variability over the entire menstrual cycle and values can vary wildly between days.

1moregirl
May 27th, 2016, 11:44 PM
Thanks NicoleR. I know you're all probably right. It is just down to getting the right egg. Things got even more put into perspective for me the other day when I found out a friend who is around 35 is pregnant with her third child and it took her and her DH 6 cycles before they got their BFP. Maybe last year when I got pregnant first try I just striked it lucky. Anyway, will keep at it and just see what happens. I've done a bit of research on the net about fertility self massage so I might give that a shot as well. I also think I have been somewhat sedentary and a bit lazy recently as we have come into our cooler months here in Victoria Australia and almost into Winter. It's my least fav season of the year and it tends to make me a bit unmotivated and I tend to hibernate indoors quite a lot as our little 3 yr old boy always gets cough that get cause a bit of asthma.

1moregirl
May 28th, 2016, 09:57 PM
I woke up this morning with that anxiety again. I always seem to get it before I O and yesterday I had a few different trips to the bathroom and had lots of EWCM. Yet I'm only on CD 11 today. Haven't BD since CD 6 as our 3 yr old has had a bronchiolitis type cough that he always seems to get as soon our Winter months strike and he gets very wheezy at night so I don't sleep well. I lie beside him in our bed and spend most of the night worrying for him. I'm not sure if I could deal with that and being pregnant again as well, as I always tend to suffer from the Winter blues. I never used to mind Winter so much until we had our last little boy arrive in August and gets sickly with these coughs and childhood asthma every time. Anyway, I had a real bout of cold feet this morning. And this is why I so wanted a summer baby if I was to have another. Anyway, that's just where I'm at today. I always used to get anxiety just prior to AF arriving, but now it's changed and it hits me before I O instead now. Anyway, on a brighter note, DH and out for dinner last night with a couple who are good friends - first time we have been out together at night in almost 8 years would you believe? Because we are older parents we'd always figured we'd had enough time on our own earlier on and just wanted to give all our time to our kids. But we have realised it is important to do things as a couple as well occasionally. Sorry my rambling. Plus it is almost this time last year that I fell pregnant again - June 13th was first day of my last period last year when I got pregnant, but of course I then miscarried some time in August at 10 weeks, so I think that has all made me anxious as well.

atomic sagebrush
May 29th, 2016, 11:39 AM
I have no advice, just wishing you peace of mind with whatever comes your way.

I hope your little boy is feeling better. One of mine was like that and it was the most terrifying time of my whole life.

1moregirl
May 29th, 2016, 09:05 PM
Thanks Atomic. I'm happy to say we had a better night last night. He slept soundly and no coughing or wheezing so I didn't have to give him any ventolin. We had a heater in our room last night (a column heater) so I think that made the difference. The cold air always seems to make them cough more. Plus I have been treating them with a saline nasal spray which helps dry everything up. I always dream of moving up north to Queensland this time of year as our Winters here in Victoria are very harsh and cold. Maybe one day....strange I didn't have the anxiety when I woke up this morning and I have been having lots of EWCM every day since CD 7 which is unusual for me. I don't usually have this much straight after AF. I wonder if it's possible I am Oing earlier in my cycles than I thought yet getting pos OPKs later on? Anyway, I'm going to go and buy some O tests this morning and start testing earlier to see what's happening. I have also been drinking lots more water than usual since I've had sore throat and cough. We BD yesterday morning (a quick one whilst kids were watching TV) and are meant to hold off now til Wed morn to collect sample for SA but if I get pos OPKs today or tomorrow that plan will be postponed (that will be fun explaining to DH. Lol). Feeling better today. Just have to stay relaxed. Thanks sooo much Atomic and other lovely ladies for listening to my whines and rambles and continued advice and support. Xxoo

atomic sagebrush
May 30th, 2016, 09:41 AM
I think the saline sprays are godsends!! A good night sleep makes all the difference in the world.

I think you're just getting EWCM for a long time. I have been getting it starting CD 7 or even as early as 3 many months and then Oing right on time so it is possible for that to happen!!!

1moregirl
May 30th, 2016, 11:09 PM
Thanks Atomic but please check my latest post/thread as I got my first pos OPK test this morning on CD 13.

atomic sagebrush
May 31st, 2016, 10:47 AM
I already replied.

It's easiest for me if you guys just post in one thread, even a thread that refers me to another thread is just that much time to open it. :) I mean it's fine to start as many threads as you want but don't post the same question in multiple threads. Goal is to have all questions answered and still enable me to have a life LOL