Trying to wait patiently for 2012!

[PeonyPrincess]

Hi. I'm brand new here. So good to see so many people sharing a common dream and being so supportive.
I TTC pink for a couple of months recently but got BFNs. I was doing diet, supplements, (DH too), abstinence and O+12, and frequent BD and O+12. Then I bought an Odan calendar, which tells me my best month to TTC a girl is in July 2012! Apparently my body has more boy factors. January and May are also possibilities it says, but they can't guarantee the health of those pregnancies. I wanted to incorporate all the natural sway techniques and decided to include the lunar theory as part of it.
Has anyone had any experience with Odan or been recommended 'girl or boy dates' using Jonas or biorhythms? I can't see myself holding out til July, knowing I may not actually get pregnant, but I could easily wait til January. We have holidays coming up soon, so the idea of not being on the girl diet for a while is very appealing!
Thanks ladies. Your advice is much appreciated.

[TTC5]

Welcome!!!

[zanacal]

Hi and welcome!

Here's the complete index to all the swaying essays on this site:

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?3305-The-COMPLETE-Index!!!

Personally, even if I did believe in the calendars/moon phases, I would concentrate on the things you have more of an influence over which have more evidence to support them rather than hoping to get pregnant in a particular month when it's unlikely that you would anyway if you're swaying hard for a girl and doing so many other things to reduce your fertility - and we just don't have that much control over these things do we?!

Good luck with your sway whenever it may be :D

[nuthinbutpink]

Welcome and Good luck!

[mommato5boys]

Hi there! I'm ttc a girl as well. I looked into the lunar aspect but found that 2 of my boys were born in "girl" months so I don't put too much stock in it. And I'm way too impatient to wait for that! Good luck to you!

[Prayn4Haven]

Hi, I have two boys and I am also trying very hard to wait until 2012 too. GL

[KnockYourBallsOff]

Welcome! I have 3 boys and I am waiting to 2012 just for sanity reasons :) My youngest is still a baby....Welcome! Good luck!

[Flava]

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[Foxy]

Welcome and good luck!

[PeonyPrincess]

Thanks everyone, I am excited to be here, and to see how everyone goes with their sways. I have to laugh when I see that some are already planning their next soon after having a baby (Prayn4Haven, KnockYourBallsOff)...it took me 3 1/2 years to decide I could cope with a third!!
I agree that it is pretty out there to be believing in the lunar theory. I guess I am hoping if I throw everything at my sway and include that as well then I will know I have done everything I possibly could. I know this will be my final baby so I won't get another chance to change anything. Once you have a lunar calendar telling you "The energy of the day is very stressful. The Moon and the Sun have only negative aspects. Conception isn't recommended", it is hard to go "Never mind, let's just give it a go anyway"! I bought the girl diet from a-gender a couple of months ago and they mentioned that when people use their 'dates' (which they are too busy to give out at the moment), they are having very high success rates. I think they use biorhythms and lunar theory from what I've heard.
Anyway, perhaps I can be the guinea pig and see if it works for me. Good luck!

[atomic sagebrush]

First of all hi and welcome!

I just want to reassure you that there is NOTHING backing up the Jonas/Odan method. It's medically impossible for a woman to ovulate more than once a month and that's what their entire idea is based around. Plus, the idea has been investigated scientifically and debunked.

However, there IS some legitimate scientific evidence pointing to the idea that there is a peak of girl conceptions in late winter/early spring (specifically Mar-May, but people are also having success in Jan and Feb for a girl as well) Please read http://genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?1693-the-seasons-and-swaying for a more thorough explanation of why this might be. So you are trading something that may actually sway for something that almost certainly doesn't. I hope you decide to go ahead and conceive in whatever month feels right TO YOU and is best for your family.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thanks everyone, I am excited to be here, and to see how everyone goes with their sways. I have to laugh when I see that some are already planning their next soon after having a baby (Prayn4Haven, KnockYourBallsOff)...it took me 3 1/2 years to decide I could cope with a third!!
I agree that it is pretty out there to be believing in the lunar theory. I guess I am hoping if I throw everything at my sway and include that as well then I will know I have done everything I possibly could. I know this will be my final baby so I won't get another chance to change anything. Once you have a lunar calendar telling you "The energy of the day is very stressful. The Moon and the Sun have only negative aspects. Conception isn't recommended", it is hard to go "Never mind, let's just give it a go anyway"! I bought the girl diet from a-gender a couple of months ago and they mentioned that when people use their 'dates' (which they are too busy to give out at the moment), they are having very high success rates. I think they use biorhythms and lunar theory from what I've heard.
Anyway, perhaps I can be the guinea pig and see if it works for me. Good luck!

But look at it like this - what makes more SENSE to you...that the overall condition of your body from diet, genetic, lifestyle, and overall health factors indicate when you will have a healthy baby (and even potentially the gender) or that some mystical quality of the moon that was invented over 50 years ago before the female cycle was even understood, by someone who was not even a medical doctor, and is obviously untrue because it claims that women can ovulate more than once a cycle.

If it was all just in good fun and all, it would be ok, but you may be hurting your overall sway by trying to include this idea (see my previous post)

[PeonyPrincess]

Thanks for your advice Atomic, I have read a lot of your posts and think you are extremely knowlegeable. I had read one study saying that women can ovulate more than once a month. I have pasted it below. It was done in 2003, so that is why I thought it could potentially occur more than once. I don't plan on relying solely on my lunar calendar but want to include all of the sway factors.
I think I can do that at the same time as the lunar calendar as I want to wait til January to TTC as the 1st half of the year seems to be more pro-girl (southern hemishphere), I have just had a job offer (so don't want to start that and fall pg immediately) and it will mean I can enjoy my holiday and Christmas without the diet hanging over me.

Women may ovulate more than once a month, study says
July 10, 2003 in health

WASHINGTON (Reuters) – No wonder the rhythm method does not work so well for birth control — scientists in Canada said on Tuesday they had found women sometimes ovulate several times in a single month.

Their finding, if verified, would overturn the traditional wisdom that women produce an egg cell once a month. It would also help explain why “natural” methods of birth control, based on the idea that ovulation can be predicted, often fail.

“We are literally going to have to re-write medical textbooks,” said Dr. Roger Pierson, director of the Reproductive Biology Research Unit at the University of Saskatchewan, who led the study.

“It’s exactly why the rhythm method doesn’t work.”

Standard medical science says a woman has a cycle running roughly 28 days in which an egg ripens, is released by the follicle, drops into the fallopian tube, and then is either fertilized or shed during menstruation.

Writing in the journal Fertility and Sterility, Pierson and colleagues found this did not always happen.

“We weren’t expecting this. We really weren’t,” Pierson said in a telephone interview.

DAILY ULTRASOUND SCANS

In the study, Pierson, veterinarian Gregg Adams and graduate student Angela Baerwald did daily, high-resolution ultrasound scans on 63 women for a month, which allowed them to see the follicles very clearly.

“We had 63 women with normal menstrual cycles. Of those 63, only 50 had normal ovarian cycles,” Pierson said.

Thirteen of the women ovulated multiple times, in various different ways. And of the other 50, 40 percent had up to three waves of activity by the follicles, any one of which could result in the production of an egg.

The women’s hormone levels did not match this activity, Pierson said. “Hopefully this will help women explain how they got pregnant when they really didn’t want to be pregnant, and it certainly will help us design better fertility therapies.”

Apparently, measuring hormones in the blood is not enough to predict what a woman’s reproductive system is up to.

“The hormones do what they are going to do and the ovaries just follow their merry path,” Pierson said.

“We always thought that menstrual cycles and ovarian cycles were one and the same. It turns out they are just like two political parties — sometimes they go along hand in hand for the good of the country and sometimes they go along their separate ways.”

Pierson’s team plans longer-term studies to see if the women’s patterns are consistent from month to month.

“We don’t know what’s causing it — we don’t know if it is the weather or exposure to men or grapefruit juice or what,” Pierson said.

The findings, which were first seen in cattle and horses, help explain some things that have puzzled obstetricians, Pierson said.

“It really explains how we get fraternal twins with different conception days,” Pierson said. “Clinically, we see this all the time. We see women come in with twins and when we do an ultrasound we see one is at one 10 weeks development and another at seven.”

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, I've read that study as well and for now I'm sticking with the massive body of science that indicates otherwise.