Need advice/encouragement. Long!

[kafink21]

I'm about to turn 29. Been pregnant five times, with one loss. Only tried for one pregnancy which took two cycles. We have four sons. Youngest was two this past January. We're hoping and praying to be blessed with one more child, especially a daughter.

I was really set to get this swaying done right, but over time let things slide. I've done okay as far as diet and exercise go, not great but okay. I am taking folate, fiber (when I remember) and baby aspirin (when I remember).
The past two cycles we BD'd whenever we wanted to during my fertile time instead of having one attempt like I've read we should. Not sure when I ovulated exactly as my clear blue monitor never gave me a peak reading, but my temps showed a clear rise. I was certain that I would conceive since I have before so quickly, but now am back to CD 1.
So now I'm worried that I'm not as fertile as i once was, which is probably silly.
I don't think I have as much EWCM as I used to. I now take Flonase and an inhaled steroid (for asthma) every day. Could that have any effect? If so should I take something to increase CM?

Should we still just do one attempt this cycle? Should I start using those cheap lh test sticks in conjunction with the clear blue monitor in case I don't get a peak reading again?


Thanks to whomever got through this rambling post!!



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[Erin514]

So first off, 29 is still super young and it sounds like you are very fertile! I really wouldn't worry about not getting a BFP yet after only two cycles. It is very, very normal to take several months to conceive and in a way you kind of WANT to see that you're less fertile than you were before, since that could mean the diet is working. In your shoes I would definitely stick with the one attempt (or every 4 days if you are really stressed with only one), for a few more months. But it's your life and only you can say how much of a hurry you're in to get pregnant.

[kafink21]

So first off, 29 is still super young and it sounds like you are very fertile! I really wouldn't worry about not getting a BFP yet after only two cycles. It is very, very normal to take several months to conceive and in a way you kind of WANT to see that you're less fertile than you were before, since that could mean the diet is working. In your shoes I would definitely stick with the one attempt (or every 4 days if you are really stressed with only one), for a few more months. But it's your life and only you can say how much of a hurry you're in to get pregnant.

Thanks!! I think I just needed to be told to relax. I have a tendency to go straight to the worst possible reason for something. Yay anxiety! :/
I appreciate the reassurance.


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[Erin514]

I think lots of boy-moms do this, you're not alone! :)

[Beau82]

Agree with everything Erin said! Two cycles is really nothing. Don't start dropping sway tactics already. Like Erin said, it's a GOOD thing that your cycle has changed and that you're seeing less EWCM, that means your swaying is working. Don't quit now! The idea behind swaying pink is to reduce your fertility so try not to stress that it's taking a few months.
I'm the same as you (although a few years older at 34) with 4 boys, only having tried for 1 of them and my youngest will be 2 in August. I'm hoping to get pregnant quickly too so I'm sure I'll feel the same as you if it takes more than 2 months, but I'm trying to prepare myself.

[Beau82]

Oh and to answer your question, yes I do think you should stick with one attempt. If you want to drop something, maybe drop the Aspirin but definitely don't add attempts just yet. As mentioned, try the every 4 days method if you're worried about not getting a peak reading. That will hopefully give you one attempt in the fertile period as well.

[atomic sagebrush]

Since you are having trouble with your clearblue I would advise you to BD every 4 days starting after AF and going through till when you're sure you Oed. That way you're in with one attempt no matter what. Then if you WANT to, you could also add in an additional attempt at positive oPK (but you don't have to, you may also choose to try with just every 4 days for a couple months)

if you post a chart I can look at it and tell you when I think you Oed.

What I don't want you to do is now decide you're infertile and start doing everything to get pregnant. This is one of the main reasons people get opposites. It's fine for us to start changing things to up odds of conception, but they need to be the right things.

You should not be doing aspirin with asthma. Wean off that right away (don't just drop it) and do not resume.

[kafink21]

Since you are having trouble with your clearblue I would advise you to BD every 4 days starting after AF and going through till when you're sure you Oed. That way you're in with one attempt no matter what. Then if you WANT to, you could also add in an additional attempt at positive oPK (but you don't have to, you may also choose to try with just every 4 days for a couple months)

if you post a chart I can look at it and tell you when I think you Oed.

What I don't want you to do is now decide you're infertile and start doing everything to get pregnant. This is one of the main reasons people get opposites. It's fine for us to start changing things to up odds of conception, but they need to be the right things.

You should not be doing aspirin with asthma. Wean off that right away (don't just drop it) and do not resume.

Thank you so much!!! I feel so much better.

I didn't know that about the aspirin.

We will do every 4 days then. This is the month we originally wanted to conceive, so I really hope it works! We're military and due to transfer just over a year from now, and I really want to have the baby before we have to move.
I'll try to figure out how to post this past chart!



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[kafink21]

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I didn't record every CM observation. I wasn't sure how to record what the clear blue readings were, but I did get highs, just no peak.


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[atomic sagebrush]

Exception with aspirin - if your doctor has prescribed it for you. I'm talking about self-dosing. Aspirin is one of the most common allergens and we found several people started taking it and began experiencing an increase in severity and frequency of their asthma attacks.

[atomic sagebrush]

Ok I think you ovulated on 12-14. Sorry I can't pin it down more than that but it's because you had possibly a bit of a slow rise (this is fine and totally normal, doesn't mean anything, just makes it hard to say 100% for sure) and then also the spotting.

I do want to point out that if you did O CD 14 that was a bit of a cutoff (last BD CD 12) and then the BD CD 15 was too late, so it honestly was not the greatest timed attempt for conception anyway. I mention that only to help alleviate your concerns about your fertility...with less EWCM in the mix, you may have to BD the day before O occurs to have best chances of conception. So please do not worry that this is a fertility thing, I think it's a "we just didn't get the timing quite right this time" thing. :)

[kafink21]

Thank you so much! I do feel much less anxious now.
And I'm glad to have a chance to sway better!


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[Girlieplease]

Really curious about timing aspect if she o' ed on day 12 - 14 on which day would have been optimum to bd on day 11? Trying to work out timings for July attempt as I don't think June worked. What is a slow rise temp wise? I had no definite peak to help me identify ovulation, so did the deed on positive OPK, even though the clear blue only gave high fertility! Many thanks and good luck with your journey

[kafink21]

One more question--

So if we do every four days, would the first day be the fourth day after my period ends?
Or BD the first day after it ends, and then the fourth day after that and so on?


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[atomic sagebrush]

Really curious about timing aspect if she o' ed on day 12 - 14 on which day would have been optimum to bd on day 11? Trying to work out timings for July attempt as I don't think June worked. What is a slow rise temp wise? I had no definite peak to help me identify ovulation, so did the deed on positive OPK, even though the clear blue only gave high fertility! Many thanks and good luck with your journey

There IS no optimum day to BD. Timing does not sway. Best odds of conception are from BD 1 or 2 days before O; however, with swaying, even 2 days before O may be too long a cutoff and so that is part of why we aim at 1 day before O or so (positive OPK)

Slow temp rise - the "classic" chart has a temp dip and then a huge rise where all the temps are above coverline. Hers has the temp dip and then a few "inbetweeny" temps before they rise. This is actually very common as well but O can not be confirmed till 3 temps above coverline, so it makes it hard to pin down what day exactly, all I can give her is a range of days.

If you post a chart Girlie I can have a look at it. You did the right thing having attempt, because when in doubt, I want you guys to attempt. You CAN get pregnant from attempt too soon (and of course also in that scenario have option of having another attempt if you so choose) but if you wait and wait for a peak reading that never comes, you'll miss the whole month. Better too soon than too late.

[atomic sagebrush]

One more question--

So if we do every four days, would the first day be the fourth day after my period ends?
Or BD the first day after it ends, and then the fourth day after that and so on?


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Day after period ends. :) This is not set in stone tho, it's just an obvious/handy start point.

[kafink21]

Day after period ends. :) This is not set in stone tho, it's just an obvious/handy start point.

Okay thanks! :)


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