So disappointed

[kafink21]

I really thought this was our month, but saw some blood mixed with cm this morning. Very sad.
Should we just stay the course? I was thinking of either adding attempts, or maybe a vitamin? What would be better? This is all so emotionally taxing, I don't know if I can keep doing it more than one more month.
Here's my chart- http://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20160717/230d483f759690750fbadc2f10ca0c55.jpg


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[atomic sagebrush]

Well, you're not out yet, let's see what happens tomorrow.

Can you please give me a brief rundown of everything you're doing?? There are often many things to change up.

[Girlieplease]

Sorry I have no advice but hope atomic or some of the other ladies will post advice soon. Just wanted to say could it be implantation bleeding? Am in similar situation, our timing was so spot on this month, I was so hopeful but I am cd 2 with full blown af, so it clearly was not my month and what is worse I have a short lp. Am not sure how much longer I can put myself through the effort and then the emotional roller-coaster of am I aren't I of the 2 ww, then ddisappointment when af arrives. So your not alone, but if af not arrived your still in with a shout, keeping everything crossed for you! X

[Girlieplease]

Sorry cross posting atomic!

[atomic sagebrush]

I do want to mention for others reading this, for whatever reason people seem to assume that vitamins somehow magically cause conception to occur. They do not. Vitamins have only been in widespread use since the 1970's and people got (and still get, since they are not being used in most other countries worldwide) pregnant ALLLLL the time eating diets that are far worse than the LE Diet and without vitamins.

If you feel like you need to take a vitamin, that is totally at your discretion but it's not a magic pregnancy pill and it will sway blue. A compromise is to take it 3x a day, OR for those who have been on a relatively strict sway diet (with very few cheats) for longer than 3-6 months is to add in JUST zinc 8-15 mg and iron 18-30 mg 3x a week, plus 150 IU iodine daily. Strict vegans could add in the lowest dose B12 they can find 1-2 times per week, and anyone who is not doing any dairy or dairy replacers could add in the lowest dose Vit. D they can find 2x a week.

[atomic sagebrush]

Sorry I have no advice but hope atomic or some of the other ladies will post advice soon. Just wanted to say could it be implantation bleeding? Am in similar situation, our timing was so spot on this month, I was so hopeful but I am cd 2 with full blown af, so it clearly was not my month and what is worse I have a short lp. Am not sure how much longer I can put myself through the effort and then the emotional roller-coaster of am I aren't I of the 2 ww, then ddisappointment when af arrives. So your not alone, but if af not arrived your still in with a shout, keeping everything crossed for you! X

Do you have your own dedicated thread Girlie?? If not please start one give me a rundown of what you did and I'll tell you what to tweak.

Add in the 1 serv. full fat dairy, 4-6 eggs a week, and 1 serv. salmon or red meat (salmon is better so only do red meat if you can't stand salmon) per week

[kafink21]

Thanks Atomic! I will give you a rundown once I'm out of a very loud car! Just picked up kids from a night with grandma and they are very tired and crabby!


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[kafink21]

Well, you're not out yet, let's see what happens tomorrow.

Can you please give me a brief rundown of everything you're doing?? There are often many things to change up.

So hard to wait for tomorrow!! Ah!

So I've been following the diet, not super strictly, since April. I also have been trying to get an hour of exercise 5 days a week.

I take folate and the chitosan fiber when I remember to.

That's it really! I don't make a lot of CM, that's why I thought maybe some vitamin might help. We have four boys already (youngest is 2.5) so I don't want to sway blue, but I really do want to get pregnant soon!


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[kafink21]

Oh! And we were doing every four days, though we did do it two days in a row once...[emoji87] It was my birthday....


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[atomic sagebrush]

doing other things though?? Like hot bath for DH, tight underwear, immediate jump and dump, shallow release???

[carmella_marie]

So it's saying you ovulated on CD 14, but maybe it was CD 13? If you ovulated on the CD 13th, then the attempts on CD 14 might have been too late leaving you with just an attempt on CD 10. 3 days before O should be able to get you pregnant, just maybe not this time. Just wanted to encourage you to keep up the limited attempts! One attempt has been getting great results and I hate to see people drop it too soon. You can get pregnant on one attempt and you may already be preggo!

[kafink21]

I really thought I was, but my period just started and temp dropped to 97.
Thanks for the encouragement though!
So you think we should stick with every four days still?


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[kafink21]

doing other things though?? Like hot bath for DH, tight underwear, immediate jump and dump, shallow release???

Nope, we aren't doing anything else!


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[kafink21]

What about having attempts every three days? Or maybe one extra at pos ovulation test? Or should we just keep on every 4 days?

[atomic sagebrush]

It is up to you. If you're ready to add attempts, then go to e3d OR e4d plus one. DO NOT do e3d plus one!!

[carmella_marie]

I got my first boy on like a 5 day cutoff. it was crazy. While one attempt alone is a great girl sway tactic, it needs to be "supported" by diet and exercise too. My second child we DTD every day through O, and therefore no surprise we got a boy. I think one attempt is a really good sway tactic and I was personally not a fan of dropping it too soon. I got my girl on my second TTC cycle doing just PCOS LE, exercise, daily alcohol, one attempt and clomid. I told myself I was going to get a few BPN and I would be excited for them and I wasn't going to change anything for 2 attempt cycles. The reason I was excited about my BFN was that the goal of swaying pink is to lower fertility, and BFN's tell you that you have done that! I told myself after 2 BFN I'd do the e4d plus one. (because I was on clomid and didn't want to do more than 3 cycles on that)

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes never lose sight of the "fertility factor" meaning that couples who are really super duperly fertile are more set for blue and also able to get pregnant much more easily even doing things that would prohibit conception for like 80% of everyone else. You can't therefore look back and draw any conclusions (some people would then think "Oh I need to do the opposite") or whatever and decide to BD thru O if they got a boy with one attempt in the past, but that would only be more boy friendly, if that makes sense.

I also got 2 boys with a long cutoff (DK how many days but with my first son, we BD 2x right after I had had AF, and with my second, we decided to TTC but then my husband changed his mind so we stopped at least 4 days before I ovulated but it was already too late) and my 3rd with a 3 day cutoff as I was trying Shettles and my husband wasn't even home when I Oed. This doesn't mean "cutoffs sway blue for me", it means that I was just nice and fertile and had good EWCM, and my husband has a high count, and I was therefore able to get pregnant with those long cutoffs. If that hadn't been the case, the sperm could not have survived to make it to the egg!!