Wacky cycle...should I BD again tonight?

[Blckhrt]

Hi! I'm a very longtime lurker (literally, years - before I had my son, even) and have purchased the TTC A Girl ebook. I made an account today because we are finally officially TTC, and wouldn't you know it, my cycle this month is unlike it's ever been before.

Normally I get EWCM just a day or two before ov, then see a pretty huge temp rise a day or two after ov. Average O day is CD21-23.

This cycle, I first got EWCM on Friday, 8/27. We BD'd that night (after I took a Benadryl) because like I said I usually get EWCM 1-2 days before O.
I kept taking opk's anyway just in case and to my surprise, I got two positives on Monday 8/29 (never got a pos before, kinda thought they didn't work for me!). It was negative again by the next morning. So I assumed I'd ovulate Tuesday 8/30 and see my temp jump by Thursday 9/1. But now it's Friday 9/2 and my temp has NOT risen. My EWCM has been gone since Tuesday, so I'm very confused. DH is leaving town tomorrow morning for 3 days. Should we BD again tonight in case? It's never been this unclear if I've ov'd, so I'm concerned. Been on a vegan LE diet and the recommended supps for 6-7 weeks. I'm 31, DH is 39. I'll attach a photo of my chart.

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[GirlieCat]

When is the last time you DTD? If it has been three full days without BD then yes DTD again. That would put you on the e4d cycle which is good for girl sway.

[Blckhrt]

Last Saturday, so, 6 days. (i think I accidentally said Friday above, but it was Saturday - I included a pic of my chart)
But my cm has dried up and my pos OPK was days ago...it's just my temp has not risen at all. Wondering what could be going on. It'd be very very hard for me to believe I haven't ov'd yet.

[GirlieCat]

I didn't get EWCM this cycle at all which I normal get at least one day but I have had watery wetness for over a week. I also didn't get a clear positive OPK and I normally do. I think our bodies just can do weird things and there is no explaining. We are DTD every 4th day this cycle just to cover ourselves because I would hate to miss O. I hear of other ladies getting false positives on OPK and then many days later they get the real positive. So confusing why our bodies don't work the same each cycle or like other woman. A lot of factors going on that affect hormones and such.

Good luck. You should join us in the spectacular Sept 2WW forum for support while you wait to see if this cycle works for you.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi and welcome out of lurkdom!!

It is SO common for cycles to go wackadoo the month of TTC!!

Hm I wonder if the Benadryl dried you up enough so your urine got concentrated enough to register hormone on the OPK test?? That had not occured to me before but seems possible.

I agree that your chart does not look like O has occured and if I am not too late I would DEF advise BD again right away to cover you for the time DH will be away.

What supps are you on?? Drop vitex, pep tea, saw palmetto if taking as this can delay O

[atomic sagebrush]

Last Saturday, so, 6 days. (i think I accidentally said Friday above, but it was Saturday - I included a pic of my chart)
But my cm has dried up and my pos OPK was days ago...it's just my temp has not risen at all. Wondering what could be going on. It'd be very very hard for me to believe I haven't ov'd yet.

Your body can gear up to O and then "change its mind" and then surge again in a few days. This has happened to me a couple times and one time it was sooo realistic I actually went to the doctor for a blood test. Had EWCM, increased libido, O pains, everything. But I hadn't ovulated at all. :)

[Blckhrt]

Thanks so much for your reply!

I'm not sure the Benadryl would be related to the +OPK because they were separated by almost 48 hours. (Benadryl Saturday night, +OPK Monday night).

Alright, here's what happened - we did go ahead and BD last night (Friday) just in case. Even though my CM was long gone (at most I had like two sticky "crumbs" of it yesterday - lol). But...womp womp...my temp skyrocketed a full half-degree today. That kind of kills my hope that maybe I could be having a weird slow rise.

So here's my new chart. I know I need three high temps to confirm ov but my temp has NEVER gone back down after spiking this high.

We only did vitex/saw palmetto (for me) and licorice root (for DH) through CD14.

Looks like I blew it, huh? Unless I somehow ovulated as early as Wednesday, and some of DH's swimmers from last Saturday somehow survived that long...I'm not hopeful. :( I'm upset with myself for jumping the gun and DTD last Saturday when EWCM started. Had I known I'd get my first-ever +OPK this cycle, I would not have jumped the gun. Had we waited till Monday, we might actually have had a shot.

<a href="http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/4f79b5/">My Ovulation Chart</a>

[atomic sagebrush]

Oops chart is not showing up for me.

Thanks for updating me on the Benadryl. Very helpful.

next month, let's stop the V and SP at CD 12 instead. They may have delayed O a smidge.

You didn't blow it, not at all!! It just wasn't THE month and never forget that when things in a pink sway don't go according to plan, it may have been God/the universe's way of helping us out. :)

You can get EWCM for days or even a week in advance of O. Since you don't get pos OPK usually, I'd probably just go for every 4 day method instead.

[Blckhrt]

Here's the link by itself, not sure if this will work: 4f79b5 Ovulation charts on FertilityFriend.com (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/4f79b5/)

Anyway, thank you! Will do - stopping V&SP next month on CD12.
Funny thing is I don't think my O was actually delayed in the end; CD21-23 is normal for me. I was just fooled by EWCM showing up so many days early. Argh!

Trying to keep positive. We only have one more cycle to attempt, and then we'll be forced to take a break until after Xmas for a variety of reasons. So fingers and toes crossed for next month. We may try E4D or maybe E5D. I think I got a +OPK this time because I religiously took them every afternoon and evening - previously I hadn't been.

[atomic sagebrush]

I gotcha! Yes all that makes perfect sense to me, and I do agree it sure does look like you just Oed.

It is not unusual for some of us (inc. myself) to have EWCM really far in advance of O. Since swaying can change things, I suspect it was just a different pattern this month than you're used to. :)

[Blckhrt]

Okay, having more issues. I'm confused. Help?

Chart: 4f79b5 Ovulation charts on FertilityFriend.com (http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/4f79b5/)

I assumed I O'd on CD24. FF originally said O was on CD20 but, as soon as I removed that +OPK, it switched it to CD24. Okay, cool, no prob. I typically have a textbook 13-14 day LP so I was expecting AF no sooner than Friday. But...it started TODAY. Which, if I did indeed O on CD24, means my LP was 9 DAYS. CRAP.

Maybe I O'd before my temps showed I did...wishful thinking?
Or, more than likely, something about my sway shortened my LP dramatically. Is this cause for a lot of worry? What do I need to do to re-lengthen it? We've got one more shot this cycle, and then we'll have to put TTC plans aside for a few months. So I REALLY want to maximize my chances of conception this cycle. Would appreciate any perspective/advice.

[atomic sagebrush]

I honestly can't say, because while swaying can make shorter LP, swaying can also mess with temping and it looks very suspicious to me that you Oed on CD 24. I seriously doubt that this is the case. If you look at your temps on CD 23 and 24, see how they are still higher than nearly all your earlier temps?? There is just one that is higher and it is MUCH earlier on, all the subsequent temps are either much lower or equal to the temps from those days. I suspect you Oed CD 21 or 22 somewhere in there and the algorithm is being confused by those couple of higher temps.

What you ahve to keep in the back of your mind is that we are dealing with 1/10 of a degree. That is MINISCULE and could come from shifting position in bed or a warmer/colder room or sleeping with your mouth open. If your temps on CD 23 and 24 would have been one teensy smidge higher then you'd have a clearcut temp shift that would have meshed perfectly with when your pos OPK was.

Now, all that having been said we don't want to rest on our laurels either so please add in a serv. of full fat dairy a day, 4-6 eggs a week, and 1 serv. salmon or red meat (if you don't like salmon) per week. This will help with your LP. I also want you to give me a brief mention of everything you're doing for swaying.

I do want to stress to you, it is VERY important for you to have an attempt closer to ovulation if you want to get pregannt this upcoming month. Your attempts were nowhere near O occuring and that is much worse for conception than a 9 day LP.

[atomic sagebrush]

Ok sorry duh I realized this is a 2 page thread.

I think you should drop vitex and saw palmetto but looking at your chart I think your temp actually DID rise, it just didn't rise that high until 3 days after ovulation. Those temps on CD 23/24 were higher than the bulk of your temps earlier in your cycle, there were only 3 higher or equally high onfes, and one of those was an open circle and untrustworthy.

[Blckhrt]

Haha, no worries! Curse of being at the top of page 2 ::shakes fist::

I see what you're saying. So it's possible swaying shortened my LP, but it's just as possible that it just gave me a slow/staggered rise after ov - right? Hopefully the latter is true; seems like less to worry about!

You still think I should drop Vitex and SP completely? Or I could cut the dose in half...or I could just take them for 1 week...etc. If it was just a slow temp rise I'm not sure about ditching them completely, but I'll trust your opinion.

Yes, this cycle we will definitely try and put our attempt closer to ov - I plan to wait till +OPK now that I know they DO work for me as long as I use them in the afternoon and evening.

My diet is 95-99% vegan right now (I don't sweat the small bit of parmesan in my pesto, or chicken stock in my soup, etc.), although I did have two pretty significant cheats in the last 2 weeks (egg & chorizo for one, schnitzel for the other...mmm!). Do you still think I should add in the dairy/eggs?
I do not do LE to the letter as I have a past history of anorexia, so no counting for me - but it's fairly easy for me to be mostly vegan since I was for a few years in my 20s. (I think I actually miss my vitamins more than non-veg foods; I definitely felt my energy dip when I discontinued prenatals!) I delay breakfast most days but I do not skip it. I'm also a couch potato. Other than that, and the recommended supps, and the one attempt, I can't think of anything else major off the top of my head. Following the ebook pretty closely other than not counting cals/nutrients! And I am at my lowest weight of the last few years (my lowest post-anorexia-recovery weight, in fact), largely thanks to breastfeeding my son. Not too low, though; my BMI is still over 20, probably 21 (for reference, it was 25-26 before my first pregnancy...it was 17-18 when my ED was active). So I have not lost weight since starting my sway in July, but I don't really think I need to.

[atomic sagebrush]

It's possible that swaying gave you a short LP but it is equally possible that the algorithm for FF was confused. I do not think it's a slow temp rise per se just that it's different than what you were used to (and yes, swaying can cause this to happen, with changes in patterns that used to appear set), and the majority of your temps were much, much lower and then there were 2 higher temps that have befuddled the algorithm. :) The FF program is really not that bright LOL and additionally, we are dealing with 1/10 of a degree here.

Vitex and saw palmetto have both been disappointing with results and caused tons of trouble. They are getting lower than the overall success rates of the site (significantly) meaning that while they are better than 50-50 and I do still think they sway, people who swayed without using them at all, are actually getting better results than those who did. So whenever I see any hint of trouble I recommend dropping them, but that of course is your call to make.

You are doing exactly right, then, with your history, in not tracking the nutrients and just eating vegan mostly. Just exactly what I like to see. But, that having been said that is definitely a reason for a short LP - that lack of animal fat can mess with your body's ability to make progesterone and estrogen and shorten LP, so if you do want to do something preemptively that is still my recommendation.

No weight loss, you are ideal right where you are.

[Blckhrt]

Alright, atomic dearest...I'm on CD15 and watery CM has arrived, so I expect our attempt to happen in 5-7 days hopefully. We're still 99% vegan, and we've dropped Vitex, SP, and LR. I'm just on folate daily and aspirin 4x/week; husband is only on a small dose of cranberry.

Really, really want this attempt to work! But I also really, really want my girl. So with those two competing things in mind, I have 3 questions in the lead-up.

1. What's the current thinking on Rephresh? I used one about 3 days ago. Should I use another this week?
2. Should I go ahead and take a Benadryl before my attempt? I don't want to dry up TOO much, of course, but if you still believe it helps sway girl...
3. My husband is just a few months shy of 40. Last month he did daily FR leading up to our attempt, but this month I haven't pushed it as much. How important do you think it is, especially in light of his age?

Thank you!

[atomic sagebrush]

Question - why in 5-7 days?? Please keep in mind that your patterns of EWCM and O Day can change at any time evne without swaying and swaying also does seem to trigger it so be on the lookout for Oing earlier than you think.

1)Our stats have seemed to indicate it is neutral - does not help or hurt a pink sway but does cut odds of conception. It is up to you, I personally think it's among the first things to drop since it does nothing to help and does prevent conception with the one attempt (which does seem to work)

2) Same as above. Has not seemed to help, does cut odds of conception, thus among the things that I do like people to drop at some point (before adding attempts, to be sure) You could also compromise and pick one or the other, RepH. or Benadryl, to drop now and then in another month if you needed to you could drop the other.

3)Again, sounding a bit like a broken record, but results seem to indicate FR is not doing much if anything, it is a huge pain in the butt, and also cuts odds of conception (probably more than either RepHresh or Benadryl). So I would probably just have him "do what he does" if he hasn't been into it and neither have you. Or you could have him release every 2-4 days if you prefer for possibly better odds of conception. Totally up to you.

[Blckhrt]

That's true, 5-7 days was just my guess since I tend to O between CD 20 and 23. But I understand that can easily change. As of yesterday I'm taking OPK's at 2/3pm + at/before bedtime to keep an eye out.

That's all VERY good to know, thank you so much! Sounds like there's no point even bothering with Rephresh or Benadryl, then. And I will tell hubby that if he's been doing FR, he can ease up.

We'll focus on staying mostly vegan (and sans vitamins) + one attempt at +OPK. I guess that's it... I hope that's enough!

[Blckhrt]

In thinking a bit more about this...do you think 2 OPKs a day is enough? I could do 11am, 4pm, and 9pm instead of 2pm/9pm if you think that's wiser.

And two more quick Qs:
1. J&D - I'm guessing I should refrain to maximize chances of conception. I don't want to lay there forever, though, so I'm thinking of giving it 10 minutes and then carrying on and cleaning up?
2. Deep release? Does position really matter?

Also I forgot to mention two things:
1. Both hubby and I had a cold last week and are still a bit sniffly.
2. I've been on Wellbutrin for about 6 months. (I weaned off it several months before conceiving my son, and didn't resume it till this year.) Does Wellbutrin/bupropion by chance sway girl?

Thanks again for all your help!

[atomic sagebrush]

I know it feels so counterintuitive but focusing on just doing what really works and letting go of the rest, is what is getting us best results. The people with the kitchen sink sways are getting opposites. Diet, one attempt, exercise if you're doing it, those things are getting it done. All the rest of it does, is prevent conception and drive ya loopy.

TBH regarding the OPK I'd prob. just do ONE the 2 pm one and then if it seems to be getting darker, start with 2. I don't want you to stop doing the 2 pm in favor of 11/4 as 11 can be too early for some and 4 too late for some. 2 is right in the wheelhouse.

I like j and d after 5 minutes. not right away, I think it cuts odds of conception too much. 10 is ok too. Our results did seem to show slight improvement with j and d (and although I don't know this for a fact, since I recommend after 5 minutes, I suspect most of those people are doing 5 minutes and not immediately) so 5-10 to start, maybe don't go right to 30.

Shallow release is not working. I have had several people this last year who were not getting pregnant and I was trying everything in my bag of tricks (up to and including sperm analysis!) only to find out that for some reason they had dropped everything else and kept doing shallow release and forgot to mention that. THen they dropped it and got pregnant right away. It has never been proven to sway and I would just have normal intercourse. Positions are one of those "old wives tale" things that I keep around just cause I can but probably not worth anything really.

Being sick may sway pink and so may Wellbutrin.

[Blckhrt]

Thank you!

Tonight may be our night. I'm on day 2 of heavy EWCM, and more importantly, my OPK today is pretty damn dark. However, it's not darker than the control line - but then again, I've never gotten one darker than control. Eek. I understand you might not see this in time, but if you do...would love to know if you agree that tonight's the night.

After 5 minutes:
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After 10 minutes:
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Compared to last few days:
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[GirlieCat]

That is pretty dark for sure. I think I am leaning towards calling that a positive if you have never got anything darker. I would test again in several hours to see how it changed. What time of day was this test done?


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[Blckhrt]

Thanks for your reply! That test was at 2pm. I just took another, at 7pm, and I feel like it's lighter than earlier...what do you think?

After 5 min:
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After 10 min:
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[GirlieCat]

Looks lighter to me. If it was me I think I would BD, but you have to make the call.

[Blckhrt]

I just took another - it's 9pm - and it's even lighter.
So...we're going for it.
I guess I just have to hope today was my real surge - and not a "warm-up" semi-surge.
Wish us baby dust...especially pink dust!

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[GirlieCat]

Good luck and lots of pink dust. Just keep testing for the next few days in case or for piece of mind.

[Blckhrt]

Will do! The deed is done :X so fingers and toes crossed.
Thanks again for your replies! Hope we did the right thing!

[atomic sagebrush]

Agh sorry only just now saw this.

When in doubt, attempt. You can get preggo from an attempt before positive OPK, but waiting till too late for a pos that may never come, means you're out for the month.

Good luck and pink dust coming your way!

[Blckhrt]

Good to hear we did the right thing!
We DTD Sunday night after those dark OPKs. The ones I took on Monday were somewhat, but not AS, dark. Today's is definitely negative. I feel good about our timing. Now just hoping hard during the 2WW! Thanks, atomic!

[Blckhrt]

Guys...I'm 9dpo...is this what I think it is? (No filter - taken within the 5 min testing window)

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IF it is...when do I resume prenatals (and meat-eating)? Should I wait for stronger lines, or pos blood test, or something else?

[GirlieCat]

Blckhart- I see a line...I definitely see a line! This is very exciting. We are going to be due date buddies because I just got my BFP yesterday. Personally, I started my prenatal last night. I don't want to fool around with not having the healthiest bean I can so I just went for it. I might start off with prental every other day for a week or two (not sure). I am still following the diet for another couple weeks I think, maybe with more cheats here and there. I don't want something to happen like MC or chemical and fall too far off the wagon. Nor do I want to gain all the weight back and start looking heavier and people think I am pregnant before it is actual pregnancy weight they are seeing.

I am so happy for you. Keep testing every few days to see your line get darker (I know I will be). And share your pics if you do, I would love to compare. Then when you are ready come join the due date forum for June/July/August 2017 babies. I am so happy for you.

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/due-date-buddies/56620-due-june-july-august-2017-a.html?highlight=2017

[GirlieCat]

I thought I should note though that I was taking 1600 mg of folic acid as part of my sway (two 800 mg pills). My prenatal has 800 mg of folic so last night when I took the prenatal I only took one 800 folic acid so my total folic is still 1600. Atomic, is that okay? I didn't want to reduce or increase folic.

Can we start prenatals daily now or ease into them?

[Blckhrt]

Girliecat- omg, you got a bfp too?! CONGRATS! Did you post about it in another thread? If so, please link me to it, I'd love to read it! How many dpo are you? It's so early for me that I'm quite worried about a chemical/blighted ovum. Time will tell. Trying REALLY hard not to get excited yet...after all, this is just one test, with one very very faint line.

Your plan sounds similar to what I was thinking of doing. Starting prenatals slowly (first seeing what atomic thinks). Backing off the diet bit by bit. And even backing off drinking in stages – I've been having two drinks at night on average, so I'm going to have one a night for a couple days, then every other night, for just a bit before ceasing - maybe till 14-16 dpo or something. Blood flow isn't shared with the placenta till closer to six weeks anyway, I just don't want to shock my body with sudden cessation of anything. My psychiatrist did say to discontinue Wellbutrin when I get a positive, but I think I'll wait a few days for that too just to make sure.

[Blckhrt]

10 dpo today. Got another line this morning, but it seemed to take longer to show up than yesterday, and I feel like it's fainter. I'm trying to stay hopeful, but not TOO hopeful.

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[GirlieCat]

Hi Blck, 10dpo is still very early so don't get dishearted. Maybe buy a more sensitive test for tomorrow's FMU. First response early results is the one most ladies recommend so I did one yesterday and the line was much clearer that the cheapie ones.

My cycle was totally wacky his time. I was testing OPKs but missed a day and no other days were positive so I was confused. Lines got darker then got super super light and then days later started getting darker again (all this over 2 weeks). With the ladies help in the October 2WW it was suggested maybe I geared up to O but didn't and then the later darker lines could be my body trying to O for real. I thought I was just ovulating later than normal and hadn't Oed yet.

Then one lady said OPKs can get dark again near AF or if you are pregnant so Tuesday cd27 I got a very dark OPK and frustrated at how late that was I decided to use the same 6pm urine sample to do a prego test just for fun and to my amazement and surprised it was positive. I thought I had not ovulated yet but really I ovulated earlier than normal. I relied too heavy on the OPKs and the day I missed was probably my positive. Looking back on all my tests and log of symptoms I think I can see about when I probably ovulated so I am about 13dpo today and was 11dpo at my first BFP.

THANK GOD and Atomic that we were DTD every 3-4 days since cd4 to cover us from wacky things like this. Had I just waited to DTD at +OPK we wouldn't be pregnant. I am still in shock and disbelief.

What dpo would you typically be expecting AF?

[atomic sagebrush]

I see a line for sure!! :) Please don't worry about darker/lighter tests at this stage of gestation, the darkness of the tests is dependent on concentration of your urine and really does not tell you anything about your actual HCG levels.

The only time to ever be concerned about lightening pregnancy tests is if you have very dark positives that suddenly diminish to squinters. Other than that it's really not anything to worry about because the majority of the time it's just a "watery pee" issue ;)

[atomic sagebrush]

I thought I should note though that I was taking 1600 mg of folic acid as part of my sway (two 800 mg pills). My prenatal has 800 mg of folic so last night when I took the prenatal I only took one 800 folic acid so my total folic is still 1600. Atomic, is that okay? I didn't want to reduce or increase folic.

Can we start prenatals daily now or ease into them?

:agree: yes that's exactly right. Compensate with the additional folic/folate to account for the amount in the prenatal.

Fine to start prenatal immediately upon BFP! :) Congrats!

[atomic sagebrush]

Starting things is not something you need to ease into, it's only coming off them IMO. So I'm fine with you guys going ahead with prenatals at this point in time, no need to ease in.

[Blckhrt]

Thank you! I'm so glad these lines aren't just in my head!

Re: prenatals - good to know! Starting them back up TODAY.
I'm hypothyroid and on my most recent thyroid panel (just last week) my Free Ts were way low (even though I'm on quite a high dose of hormone). I suspect the vegan diet + no vitamins have influenced those levels. I'm hoping that resuming vitamins, and adding back some meat/eggs/dairy, will help boost them back up (although of course I have to keep an eye on them during pregnancy anyway).

Re: coming off things slowly...that's kind of what I was thinking. I know the ultra-puritans would blast me for having a beer every 1-2 nights for the next few days. But a) I'm not even "supposed" to know I'm pregnant yet (haven't technically missed my period yet - that'd be next Monday or Tuesday), b) the whole shared-bloodflow-doesn't-start-till-later thing, and c) I think the teeny, tiny, miniscule "risk" of fitting in a few more drinks pales in comparison to the possibility of shocking my system/liver by going from 2 drinks a day (sometimes 3) to zero flat-out. I'm open to hearing what you think, though, Atomic.

Similarly, I'll add foods back to my diet slowly. I had an egg at breakfast today, first one in months! And I'm going to go back to regular milk in my coffee. Next stop, MEAT!

Speaking of coffee - I had been having 2 "cups" (really 12-16 oz apiece) per day. Yesterday and today I just had 1. Not gonna lie, I wanted another! But I thought I'd ask first - what's the plan with caffeine upon getting a BFP?

[atomic sagebrush]

I personally think it's fine to drink 1-2 a day up to BFP for sure, missed period probably. I did drink up until my BFP which was on the late side 13-14 DPO (I seriously thought I had no chance of being preggo that month) and there are studies that have ID'ed the "risky" times and it's more like 6-12 weeks (really 8-10) and it was a LOT of alcohol anyway. But that is just one of those things that people have to decide for themselves.

I do think there is a consideration with blood thinning effects of alcohol that weaning off may be sensible although most are just dropping it at O anyway.

Coffee - personally, again, this is something that I personally did and think is ok. Always had it, my mom always had it (usually with a cigarette or two). I know there's a study that links caff intake to losses, but I remain unconvinced and still think 1 or even 2 cups of caff a day is fine.

[Blckhrt]

Thank you again, as always!!

If it's not too much trouble, would you be able to point me to where I can find those studies about the riskiest weeks for alcohol? Everything you read on the subject is so all-or-nothing, and there's a lot of fear-mongering. So I'm curious. With my son, I had a couple drinks on a vacation just before I got my positive test (around 18dpo), and then had a handful of half-beers during the second/third trimesters, and of course he's fine.

[atomic sagebrush]

I completely agree. It's just over the top sometimes, while I understand the philosophy of wanting to avoid anything potentially problematic, I think at some point they drum everything up to such an extent it's hard to know what to even believe any more.

I am awaiting the article that says "Pregnant? Eat only gluten free gruel or your baby will have 17 heads" and then the followup that says "Gluten gruel causes babies to grow 18 heads, says new study".

Study: This is the Most Dangerous Time to Drink During Pregnancy | iVillage.ca (http://www.ivillage.ca/pregnancy/signs-of-pregnancy/study-the-most-dangerous-time-drink-during-pregnancy)

[Blckhrt]

Hahaha, exactly!

It's not that I'm super attached to alcohol, but I know there will be times I just want a taste of a non-NA beer.

And selfishly...we've got a weekend getaway planned at the end of this month - our first trip in 2.5 years, since the aforementioned vacation that happened right before we discovered I was pregnant with our son - and this one is even to the very same city! And there's a microbrewery there, that ONLY sells their beer in that city (they don't even ship it), and I really, really, really would like to have one there because it's the #1 best beer I've ever had in my life. If this pregnancy sticks, I'll be about 5.5 weeks in. I've been waiting 2.5 years for that beer...would ONE, at that stage of pregnancy, be that big of a risk? That's what I've got to decide.

[atomic sagebrush]

Do they not sell bottles???

[atomic sagebrush]

Am I the only person who is dying for a taste of that mystery beer right about now??

[Blckhrt]

Well, since it's just a short weekend trip I'm not checking any luggage, so even if they do I couldn't bring any back.

But...hmm, I just tried to look it up and can't even find a website for the brewery anymore! So I went to the site of the pub I drank it at last time, and it's not on their beer list anymore! Nooooo! Well, maybe I won't have to worry about it after all :sad: ::cries:: #firstworldproblems

[atomic sagebrush]

AGH!! How weird!