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XXforhubby
December 15th, 2016, 10:35 AM
Welcome ladies! Here is to hoping that January is jam-packed full of BFPs! Baby dust to all [emoji92][emoji93][emoji94]!!



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tfahn
December 15th, 2016, 12:09 PM
Yes, it would be great if January was jam-packed full of sticky BFP's! I would love to be one of them :) Good luck to all!

MrsSparkles
December 15th, 2016, 01:30 PM
Wishing all you ladies the best of luck and will be popping into see how you're going.

<3

Inforthree
December 15th, 2016, 07:18 PM
I'll be here for the wait in Jan! I think my attempt might end up on Christmas Eve. 😊 I may do 2 attempts this month bc after that I'm not too keen on conceiving for a couple months bc of the due date! Hope Jan is good for us all!

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Wantanother2017
December 15th, 2016, 11:40 PM
I'll be here for the wait in Jan! I think might attempt might end up on Christmas Eve. [emoji4] I may do 2 attempts this month bc after that I'm not to keen on conceiving for a couple months bc of the due date! Hope Jan is good for us all!

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Me too girl! Let's hope these attempts are thwarted by the holidays and the food temptations!


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Georgia_Peach
December 19th, 2016, 12:50 PM
Excited to start this month! I will attempt this cycle with ED4 plus one extra attempt at +OPK.
Or just one attempt at OPK. Haven't decided yet?

If it doesn't pan out I have a fertility clinic that is following my next cycle. Sonogram and trigger release if nessisary. Treatment plan to follow if we don't get pregnant before that naturally.


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Kelbear
December 20th, 2016, 05:17 AM
Good luck everyone, hoping you all get to start off the new year with bfps in January

Nann3r
December 22nd, 2016, 11:49 AM
Gl friends.


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cosmosis
December 26th, 2016, 07:32 AM
Hello hello! I should be officially in the 2WW as of Tomorrow. Who else will be POAS obsessively with me? http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt61/govols87/popcornemot.gif

cosmosis
December 26th, 2016, 07:33 AM
I'll be here for the wait in Jan! I think my attempt might end up on Christmas Eve. �� I may do 2 attempts this month bc after that I'm not too keen on conceiving for a couple months bc of the due date! Hope Jan is good for us all!

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Did you end up making your attempt Christmas eve?

Georgia_Peach
December 26th, 2016, 09:36 AM
Hello hello! I should be officially in the 2WW as of Tomorrow. Who else will be POAS obsessively with me? http://i598.photobucket.com/albums/tt61/govols87/popcornemot.gif
I am going to have my first attempt tonight as well. It's CD 11 for me today. I am no longer doing one attempt bc we just want to get pregnant now and one attempt hasn't been successful for us this far. Hubby thinks we should do E3D but I might just go everyday in fertile window? Or E4D plus one extra attempt. But I should have started that already... Not sure yet. I find number of attempts is the only thing I struggle with monthly. But since I've been on LE since July.. I'm very ready to be done with this. If God has a boy planned then it's meant to be.

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Inforthree
December 26th, 2016, 04:53 PM
Did you end up making your attempt Christmas eve?
Well I decided to do the timing we had success with from Sept. The one attempt hasn't been good for us. So we DTD on Friday CD 11 and I got the +opk yesterday so we are going to DTD tonight again. It will be Ed3 timing. It worked for us before ( my DH was out of town last time). So I'll be starting the tww with you and Robin! I'm glad my cycle came back on schedule. It seems so busy with Xmas and visitors I haven't been thing about it much which is nice.

Hope you all are enjoying the holidays!

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Inforthree
December 26th, 2016, 05:00 PM
I am amazed at all I've been learning about my cycles now, since I've been ttc for a while. I can basically feel when I'll get the solid smiley ( I don't get the flashing ones unless I start testing really early in the cycle). And I'm also hypothesizing that I need an attempt earlier than +opk for a BFP. So I'm hoping the earlier attempt is good this month. Wish I didn't know all this about my cycles, but it is interesting.

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Georgia_Peach
December 26th, 2016, 05:18 PM
Well I decided to do the timing we had success with from Sept. The one attempt hasn't been good for us. So we DTD on Friday CD 11 and I got the +opk yesterday so we are going to DTD tonight again. It will be Ed3 timing. It worked for us before ( my DH was out of town last time). So I'll be starting the tww with you and Robin! I'm glad my cycle came back on schedule. It seems so busy with Xmas and visitors I haven't been thing about it much which is nice.

Hope you all are enjoying the holidays!

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Yay! I am so happy for you!! Cycle buddies!! Hopefully this is our months! 👌😉

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cosmosis
December 27th, 2016, 05:48 AM
I am going to have my first attempt tonight as well. It's CD 11 for me today. I am no longer doing one attempt bc we just want to get pregnant now and one attempt hasn't been successful for us this far. Hubby thinks we should do E3D but I might just go everyday in fertile window? Or E4D plus one extra attempt. But I should have started that already... Not sure yet. I find number of attempts is the only thing I struggle with monthly. But since I've been on LE since July.. I'm very ready to be done with this. If God has a boy planned then it's meant to be.

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I'm so glad you are at peace with whatever outcome you have. I'm trying to get there! Did you get your attempt in that night?


Well I decided to do the timing we had success with from Sept. The one attempt hasn't been good for us. So we DTD on Friday CD 11 and I got the +opk yesterday so we are going to DTD tonight again. It will be Ed3 timing. It worked for us before ( my DH was out of town last time). So I'll be starting the tww with you and Robin! I'm glad my cycle came back on schedule. It seems so busy with Xmas and visitors I haven't been thing about it much which is nice.

Hope you all are enjoying the holidays!

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SO glad to have 2WW buddies! They are the longest two weeks ever. I'm already taking mental note of "symptoms" without even wanting to. Ough! lol

I think I am 3DPO today with a fallback rise, so we'll know for sure tomorrow, God willing. I had a bit of drama with my OPK's so I feel a bit bummed and hope my attempts are still on the blue side. We ended up with much more than just 3 attempts due to me not being sure if my OPK's were indeed positive or not.

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Are either of you temping?

Georgia_Peach
December 27th, 2016, 09:49 AM
I'm so glad you are at peace with whatever outcome you have. I'm trying to get there! Did you get your attempt in that night?



SO glad to have 2WW buddies! They are the longest two weeks ever. I'm already taking mental note of "symptoms" without even wanting to. Ough! lol

I think I am 3DPO today with a fallback rise, so we'll know for sure tomorrow, God willing. I had a bit of drama with my OPK's so I feel a bit bummed and hope my attempts are still on the blue side. We ended up with much more than just 3 attempts due to me not being sure if my OPK's were indeed positive or not.

http://i64.tinypic.com/300bq88.jpg

Are either of you temping?
Yes I am!
It's CD 12 for me today. DH was too tired last night to DTD. Tonight will be our first attempt.

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tfahn
December 27th, 2016, 11:05 AM
Wow plenty of cycle buddies this month. I think I had my +OPK yesterday, so hopefully I am in the 2WW wait now. I have a feeling I might of ovulated last evening, I had a horrible headache and that seems to be one of my signs of ovulation. I will have to see what my temps do in the next few days to be sure, with the holiday I was off the last 4 days so I wasn't getting up as early so my temps have been higher due to that I believe. I am going to hopefully BD tonight and then continue to BD at least EOD just in case I am wrong; Fingers crossed for everyone in January.

Inforthree
December 27th, 2016, 12:14 PM
Yes, fingers crossed this is a big bfp month to kick off the new year! I'll test next Wednesday, I usually get results on the early side.

I'm temping too but I don't have a chart to post. Had a rise today so it should be CD 1 for me.

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MeanVeggieGal
December 28th, 2016, 09:51 AM
Hi ladies. 😊 AF showed up for me today so I've moved from the Dec to Jan thread.

tfahn
December 28th, 2016, 11:56 AM
Sorry MeanVeggieGal, hopefully January is better for you.


AFM I don't think I ovulated yet. I had a temp dip this morning so hopefully that means in the next day or two I will actually ovulate, will try to BD again tonight. Fingers crossed this is our month.

Inforthree
December 28th, 2016, 12:01 PM
Hi meanveggiegirl! Welcome! On the bright side, we can all celebrate NYE! Although we may be asleep before 12...

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ahorn586
December 28th, 2016, 12:39 PM
Hi ladies!! I've been MIA but I was super busy with the holidays and I didn't do my cardio so I didn't technically try this month but we did DTD using the pullout method in my fertile period. AF is due NYE so we'll see. I'm starting back with the cardio tonight. I wasn't so good with the diet during the holidays (I had a few meat cheats --chicken and turkey) but I'm ready to get back focused for my best chance for pink.

GL everyone!!!

XXforhubby
December 28th, 2016, 11:41 PM
I'm with you Ahorn, I too am getting back to being strict on the diet again. We had a death in the family 2 days before Christmas, so things have been crazy. Now that things have settled, I am hoping I'll get back into the swing of things.

I am looking forward to having a few drinks on NYE! Oddly enough, I've been drinking more lately. Now if only AF would leave...it's been 4 days already!

FX we see WAY more BFPs this month!



[emoji170][emoji1379]DS1, [emoji577]DS2, & [emoji602]DS3[emoji170]
[emoji166]One Last Pink Sway[emoji166]
My Ovulation Chart (https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

MeanVeggieGal
December 28th, 2016, 11:47 PM
Thanks for the welcome @tfahn and @inforthree.

GL to those waiting to O and test!

cosmosis
December 29th, 2016, 07:29 AM
I'm struggling with my temps and chart. This 2ww is soooo loooooong :( I'm gonna start peeing on sticks on the 1st. Supposedly, I'll be 8dpo then, but I don't even know if that's true u_u I do ovulate regularly and I should be trusting my body, however, due to attempts I feel pressure this month and everything seems to have gone wonky. meh.

Georgia_Peach
December 29th, 2016, 09:17 AM
Does anyone know how to even chart with an illness? I woke up sick as a dog with a cold and my temp is super high in FF. It's CD14 for me today and I have so far not had any peak readings on digital OPKS. I usually ovulate today/tomorrow so I am a bit confused. I was hoping my temping would help to pin Point ovulation.

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Georgia_Peach
December 29th, 2016, 09:17 AM
Also I just took day quill (cold/flu medicine). Not sure if anyone knows if this sways boy?

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cosmosis
December 29th, 2016, 09:39 AM
I was ill last month for a couple of days and overall my chart was higher/elevated. I got ill shortly before O. I just continues as I was and I did take dayquil and nyquil.

Most cold meds would be considered to sway girl because they dry fluids up, unless it contains an expectorant like Robitussin, which thins mucous out. You should be fine. Look up each medication that is in nyquil has to be sure.

Georgia_Peach
December 29th, 2016, 09:47 AM
I was ill last month for a couple of days and overall my chart was higher/elevated. I got ill shortly before O. I just continues as I was and I did take dayquil and nyquil.

Most cold meds would be considered to sway girl because they dry fluids up, unless it contains an expectorant like Robitussin, which thins mucous out. You should be fine. Look up each medication that is in nyquil has to be sure.
Thank you very much for the help!

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tfahn
December 30th, 2016, 02:03 PM
CD17 for me today and still waiting to O; Hopefully it happens soon.

Georgia_Peach
December 30th, 2016, 02:12 PM
CD17 for me today and still waiting to O; Hopefully it happens soon.
It's CD 15 for me today and I just got my first +OPK. FF thought my ovulation was on CD 12 bc my temps for the past few days have been crazy high due to low grade fever I have. Can't wait to be over being sick!
Sounds like we will be testing together.
Hope it happens for you soon too!

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Shannshaff
December 30th, 2016, 02:44 PM
I just got my first + OPK post partum! We had an attempt last night. I might be joining you ladies in a 2ww! Woo Hoo!!!
Now I need to crack down and really do the diet again. I have been slacking for a few months and exercise again. UGH

cosmosis
December 30th, 2016, 02:45 PM
Good luck to both of you! <3

I'm not sure what is up with me. I don't know if I'm waiting for O or have already O'd. Here is a crosspost of my latest update (I have a thread going on in the general swaying board). I'd love your thoughts!


Alright ladies, thank you so much for your input. It really helps to have a place to go to while experiencing all of this. DH just doesnt quite get it haha.

I ran out of tests :p This morning's OPK was negative. I took one at 1:30AM and at 5:30AM. The EWCM comes and goes, I'll get a glob and then creamy the next hour, but the most consistent is creamy. Cervix keeps moving also u_u, at least its always closed and firm. None of it is normal for me and has me rather confused lol.

I've been very consistent for many years, even when I had my IUD in last year. No anovulatory cycles, no extra long cycles. They have all been 29-32 days. They got longer when I started taking Bvits in late 2015. I did FAM for 8 years and started temping this year again to TTC.

I have a feeling I did O and caught the egg and am now slowly rising in temp after the initial rise and fallback. Every time I Ovulate, I get extremely grumpy, I get into it with DH and end up crying myself to sleep.every time. This past CD14 was the same thing (except I had to sort myself out to BD lol), so if I go based on my body awareness, it would be unmistakable, but, alas, nobody can really guess ovulation, so here's to waiting.

I feel so done taking tests lol, but I'll go stock up tonight again, gonna get HPT's while I'm at it. As if the 2WW wasn't long enough!

FWIW, in September I O'd CD 17, October I O'd CD 17 and November I O'd CD15

This is today's update both with FAM settings and Advanced settings:

http://i67.tinypic.com/eqvzw5.jpg

http://i63.tinypic.com/n6vy1j.jpg


We will know for sure tomorrow if I'm steadily rising.

XXforhubby
December 30th, 2016, 02:51 PM
Well I'm quite a bit behind you ladies! I'm only on CD6. AF left yesterday, and we begun BDing. We are now doing either E3D or E4D with additional attempts at positive opk and the day after. It's a modified SMEP pattern in case my DH won't go for SMEP. Now that he is fully on board, we may do SMEP in March if we haven't conceived by then.

FX for you ladies!!



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[emoji166]One Last Pink Sway[emoji166]
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Shannshaff
December 30th, 2016, 02:53 PM
To me it looks like you O'd on CD14, possibly CD16. If you look at the overall pattern (not just individual temps) of the chart, it does look like there is a shift.

Georgia_Peach
December 30th, 2016, 03:02 PM
It looks like the top (advanced) one is right. I agree it looks to me like Cd14 was your o day.

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cosmosis
December 30th, 2016, 03:08 PM
Thank you for having a look @shann :) All this waiting is quite the torture. I truly forgot about all this as it has been 11 years almost LOL. I'm unsure how I managed back then when I had PCOS and looooooong cycles.

When do you plan to do your attempt?

@XXforhubby, it sounds like a great plan! I wish you the best <3

cosmosis
December 30th, 2016, 03:09 PM
Thank you for having a look, Robin! :)

ahorn586
December 30th, 2016, 06:08 PM
FX tfahn that you will ovulate soon :fx:

CD1 for me...I hope January brings lots of BFPs!!!

Georgia_Peach
December 31st, 2016, 09:20 AM
Well I am definitely now in blue making territory! I've had 3 attempts back to back this month so far. Yesterday I thought I had a positive OPK but today's is even darker!
I'm now on the fence if I should keep BDING? Thinking that one attempt is best for girl sway but lots of BDING =girl too? (Or so I've read )
My husband is over this as well. He is CONVINCED my odds are 50/50 regardless of what we do to sway.
I'm honestly feeling so defeated right now. I wish one attempt worked for us months ago and I wasn't at this point of desperation.

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cosmosis
December 31st, 2016, 09:24 AM
BD daily would sway girl from what I have come to understand, but that is if you BD every day from AF to O. I don't think you should continue if you are swaying girl. The key is to get one attempt in and just go with the first +OPK :)

This is my updated chart for today:

http://i65.tinypic.com/70e03k.jpg

My temps for the last 3 days go like this:

12/29
97.36 - 5:00AM Oral
97.63 - 5:00AM Vag

12/30
97.62 - 5:00AM Oral
97.83 - 5:00AM Vag

12/31
97.93 -5:00AM Oral
98.16 -5:00AM Vag

I've started taking Vaginal temps in addition to my oral temps so I don't have doubt about the pattern. SO yeah, it looks like O took place on CD14 or 16. Either way, progesterone is clearly taking over. yay! The only issue I'm having at this point is EWCM. Its not even like my usual EWCM, its super slippery and stringy. Gross I know. Sometimes it's white, but mostly clear and it has been going on for the last 2 days.

I've totally been symptom spotting and my notes are filled. What else do you do in the 2ww right? haha

cosmosis
December 31st, 2016, 09:25 AM
You should ask in the general swaying forum so Atomic can help. :)

XXforhubby
December 31st, 2016, 10:40 AM
Robin- I would skip tonight and BD the following night. That would be SMEP- sperm meets egg plan. While this may be a tad blue friendly, SMEP is great for those that have been TTCing for a LONG time.

Just because your opks are getting darker now, doesn't mean the others were negative. You want to BD at the FIRST positive, not necessarily the darkest. Also, it's not uncommon to have 2-3 days of positive opks. You want to have BDing in at the first positive opk.

FX and GL to you!!!



[emoji170][emoji1379]DS1, [emoji577]DS2, & [emoji602]DS3[emoji170]
[emoji166]One Last Pink Sway[emoji166]
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Georgia_Peach
December 31st, 2016, 10:44 AM
Robin- I would skip tonight and BD the following night. That would be SMEP- sperm meets egg plan. While this may be a tad blue friendly, SMEP is great for those that have been TTCing for a LONG time.

Just because your opks are getting darker now, doesn't mean the others were negative. You want to BD at the FIRST positive, not necessarily the darkest. Also, it's not uncommon to have 2-3 days of positive opks. You want to have BDing in at the first positive opk.

FX and GL to you!!!



[emoji170][emoji1379]DS1, [emoji577]DS2, & [emoji602]DS3[emoji170]
[emoji166]One Last Pink Sway[emoji166]
My Ovulation Chart (https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)
Great thank you! I'll skip tonight. 😊

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foxtrotmama
January 1st, 2017, 01:08 PM
Oh my... December was chaos here. Someone was sick all month. Did I miss any BFPs?

I didn't even get an attempt in this cycle at all- DH got hurt and couldn't manage it. Waiting for AF later this week.

XXforhubby
January 1st, 2017, 04:48 PM
FX that this month things get back to normal for you Fox!! And your family stays healthy!

December, the end anyway, was crazy for us too. We hosted our first Christmas dinner for my DH's family (27 people came!), and my DH's grandma died. We had family gatherings every day for 9 days and counting!!



[emoji170][emoji1379]DS1, [emoji577]DS2, & [emoji602]DS3[emoji170]
[emoji166]One Last Pink Sway[emoji166]
My Ovulation Chart (https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

Georgia_Peach
January 2nd, 2017, 07:14 PM
I'm sorry to sound like a broken record but I'm wondering if you ladies think I've ovulated yet based on temps.
Positive opk was on Day 15 & 16
Those two high temps were from a fever so it's throwing everything off.
FF isn't putting cross hairs and I'm wondering if I should have another attempt tonight or not bother. Lolhttp://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170102/82ca6a7d020c7e38926a9bbbe475e408.jpg

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GirlieCat
January 2nd, 2017, 08:00 PM
Robin, since you are having a rough time pinpointing O and the fever throwing it off, have you considered just doing every 4 days instead? It is so much less stressful then trying to guess O day.

Georgia_Peach
January 2nd, 2017, 08:06 PM
Robin, since you are having a rough time pinpointing O and the fever throwing it off, have you considered just doing every 4 days instead? It is so much less stressful then trying to guess O day.
Ya. I am thinking of doing e3d now... so today would be the day. To be honest I am kind of over dtd. It's getting annoying lol
You can't even enjoy yourself at the end if you know what I mean! 😉

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cosmosis
January 2nd, 2017, 08:16 PM
I totally feel ya on the dtd stuff. I also suggest e4d, As for the chart, if the OPK's were correct, you probably already ovulated by now, but you won't be able to tell from the chart until a few more days. Sorry I'm not much help! :/

MeanVeggieGal
January 3rd, 2017, 12:16 AM
Hi ladies. CD 6 for me. Nothing much to report except I've fixed my low progesterone. Pre O temps are around 98 and post well above 98, so I'm happy. Now if I could fix my low libido I'd be good. I do not want to DTD at any other time than close to O. DH has caught wind of it and is not a happy camper. Any suggestions... [emoji20] I don't know what has happened to my sex drive??? Please. Come. Back.

cosmosis
January 3rd, 2017, 08:21 AM
Libido is a tough one because it is related to two major things. Your psychology and your hormone balance. Is it possible that you guys are stuck in a rut? How is your relationship with DH, any unsolved issues between you two? How is your self image? Those things matter alot in the sex department.

Then there's hormones. Do you chart? How long is your LP? Are you very dry most of your cycle?


As for me, meh. I got a BFN this morning and I have been feeling emotional and angry since last night because on the day of O, we waited until late evening to BD. I KNEW I should have insisted on AM, but the OPK wasn't so clear. I had a strong gut feeling that this was it, but I ignored it and THAT is what is getting to me. Now I'm afraid my BD pattern isn't boy friendly u_u even though we did EOD and 5 attempts in my fertile window (2 before, 1 on O day and 2 after). I am having difficulty getting past this anger and a stirred the pot with DH last night since he wasn't being cooperative that day.

Georgia_Peach
January 3rd, 2017, 09:55 AM
Hi ladies. CD 6 for me. Nothing much to report except I've fixed my low progesterone. Pre O temps are around 98 and post well above 98, so I'm happy. Now if I could fix my low libido I'd be good. I do not want to DTD at any other time than close to O. DH has caught wind of it and is not a happy camper. Any suggestions... [emoji20] I don't know what has happened to my sex drive??? Please. Come. Back.
I know what you mean! It's been rough for me these past few months.


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Georgia_Peach
January 3rd, 2017, 09:57 AM
So today's temp was up higher but FF still hadn't put cross hairs. I played around with it and if I have another day of high temp (which I expect to) FF thinks I "O" yesterday on CD18. The last time we DTD was CD15.

If we DTD again tonight is it to late to catch the egg?!!!!
This could be what happened last cycle bc we stopped DTD after I thought I Ovulated

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Georgia_Peach
January 3rd, 2017, 09:59 AM
Libido is a tough one because it is related to two major things. Your psychology and your hormone balance. Is it possible that you guys are stuck in a rut? How is your relationship with DH, any unsolved issues between you two? How is your self image? Those things matter alot in the sex department.

Then there's hormones. Do you chart? How long is your LP? Are you very dry most of your cycle?


As for me, meh. I got a BFN this morning and I have been feeling emotional and angry since last night because on the day of O, we waited until late evening to BD. I KNEW I should have insisted on AM, but the OPK wasn't so clear. I had a strong gut feeling that this was it, but I ignored it and THAT is what is getting to me. Now I'm afraid my BD pattern isn't boy friendly u_u even though we did EOD and 5 attempts in my fertile window (2 before, 1 on O day and 2 after). I am having difficulty getting past this anger and a stirred the pot with DH last night since he wasn't being cooperative that day.
What dpo are you? It's prob that it's just too early yet for a line. Don't get disappointed yet! I hope it's your month!!

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MeanVeggieGal
January 3rd, 2017, 10:22 AM
Thanks for your reply Robin & Cosmosis. You hit the nail on the head about my libido being attached to my self image & our issues. I could lose about 10 lbs and it's pissed me off that I haven't. I don't feel as attractive and of course getting older (41). I also don't know if I'm completely on board with TTC. Ugh...life as an adult [emoji31]sometimes sucks!

My LP is 14 days. I typically have a 28 day cycle. 5th month TTC. No dryness issues. Just my low progesterone initially, but I've gotten that under control.

Cosmosis - I agree with Robin, it's early still for the test to be conclusive. "Stirring the pot" is only going to make things more difficult. DH did DTD so I think he deserves credit. It's hard to perform on demand month after month (or so I'm told).

Robin - hopefully FF will give you cross hairs tomorrow. I'd DB if I were you to be safe, unless it'll mess up your sway.

Georgia_Peach
January 3rd, 2017, 10:37 AM
Thanks for your reply Robin & Cosmosis. You hit the nail on the head about my libido being attached to my self image & our issues. I could lose about 10 lbs and it's pissed me off that I haven't. I don't feel as attractive and of course getting older (41). I also don't know if I'm completely on board with TTC. Ugh...life as an adult [emoji31]sometimes sucks!

My LP is 14 days. I typically have a 28 day cycle. 5th month TTC. No dryness issues. Just my low progesterone initially, but I've gotten that under control.

Cosmosis - I agree with Robin, it's early still for the test to be conclusive. "Stirring the pot" is only going to make things more difficult. DH did DTD so I think he deserves credit. It's hard to perform on demand month after month (or so I'm told).

Robin - hopefully FF will give you cross hairs tomorrow. I'd DB if I were you to be safe, unless it'll mess up your sway.
Ya I'm deff going to. It's e4d today if we BD but I'm hoping it will be enough! Wishing I BD last night now. As the months go on.. it becomes more important to us to just have a baby. Not certain gender. Our DD needs a playmate. She's turning 2 in less than 2 months. I wanted to bring another child into the world before she's 3!

MeanVeggieGal-- I know what you mean about not feeling as attractive as you'd like. I too have extra weight holding on. The high carb diet did the opposite for me and I've gained a few. I switched to pcos diet now.. but I still find I'm craving carbs unlike before this diet!
Ugh!!


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cosmosis
January 3rd, 2017, 10:40 AM
Thanks for your reply Robin & Cosmosis. You hit the nail on the head about my libido being attached to my self image & our issues. I could lose about 10 lbs and it's pissed me off that I haven't. I don't feel as attractive and of course getting older (41). I also don't know if I'm completely on board with TTC. Ugh...life as an adult [emoji31]sometimes sucks!

My LP is 14 days. I typically have a 28 day cycle. 5th month TTC. No dryness issues. Just my low progesterone initially, but I've gotten that under control.

Cosmosis - I agree with Robin, it's early still for the test to be conclusive. "Stirring the pot" is only going to make things more difficult. DH did DTD so I think he deserves credit. It's hard to perform on demand month after month (or so I'm told).

Robin - hopefully FF will give you cross hairs tomorrow. I'd DB if I were you to be safe, unless it'll mess up your sway.

Oh I completely understand, and there isn't much I can say to convince you that those 10Lbs don't matter. I think you should focus on resolving issues, that is the bigger problem. Men are really not picky about our bodies the way we are, that's for sure. Maybe once you guys clear things up, you can have a heart to heart and he can give you some reassurance.

Your cycle sounds pretty healthy. Estrogen is what you are looking for when it comes to lubrication and arousal, but sometimes when other hormones are off, it affects libido anyway. How long has it been since you sorted the progesterone out?

About the bfn, yeah, I know lol. I tested 8dpo also :giggle: I have a pretty thorough symptom list and I really don't need a test to tell me what is, however, I still want a confirmation to make it official and congratulate DH. Whether it sticks or not, I'm fairly certain the egg was caught lol. I know he's been a good sport and did very well considering my demands. I'm so ungrateful sometimes u_u I have a terrible time accepting when people don't follow schedules and go through fully with commitments made. I think that's the bigger problem here.

Robin - have you tried removing the wonky temps? If you already O'd, then yes it would be too late to catch the egg, BUT, if you haven't (and you have to assume you haven't until you know for sure), you still need to go every 3-4 days.

Georgia_Peach
January 3rd, 2017, 10:42 AM
Oh I completely understand, and there isn't much I can say to convince you that those 10Lbs don't matter. I think you should focus on resolving issues, that is the bigger problem. Men are really not picky about our bodies the way we are, that's for sure. Maybe once you guys clear things up, you can have a heart to heart and he can give you some reassurance.

Your cycle sounds pretty healthy. Estrogen is what you are looking for when it comes to lubrication and arousal, but sometimes when other hormones are off, it affects libido anyway. How long has it been since you sorted the progesterone out?

About the bfn, yeah, I know lol. I tested 8dpo also :giggle: I have a pretty thorough symptom list and I really don't need a test to tell me what is, however, I still want a confirmation to make it official and congratulate DH. I know he's been a good sport. I'm so ungrateful sometimes u_u I have a terrible time accepting when people don't follow schedules and go through fully with commitments made. I think that's the bigger problem here.

Robin - have you tried removing the wonky temps? If you already O'd, then yes it would be too late to catch the egg, BUT, if you haven't (and you have to assume you haven't until you know for sure), you still need to go every 3-4 days.
Yes it's ONLY then FF applies the ovulation date at all. I put my symptoms those days to "fever" and it calculates.
Frustrating


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cosmosis
January 3rd, 2017, 10:59 AM
Well, eventually a pattern will form on your chart anyway, but its a very long process. This has been the case for me of all months lol! Now, if I remove or keep the wonky temps, O day remains the same. Keep BD on schedule.

tfahn
January 3rd, 2017, 11:37 AM
CD21 and still haven't ovulated; it has never been this late before. I guess the one month of birth control pills really messed me up. So tired of checking OPK's at this point :) Just going to continue to BD EOD until I see a temp shift.

Shannshaff
January 3rd, 2017, 02:30 PM
Well it looks like I am at CD1 (I think) of my first ppaf! Finally. Crazy that is came 4 days after a +OPK. Who knows if my cycle will regulate now or now, but I am hoping. I started my exercising again today (even though I am super sick) and will be cracking down on the diet again. Happy New Year to everyone!

MeanVeggieGal
January 3rd, 2017, 04:11 PM
Cosmosis - I've been tweaking herbs for about 3 months and finally figured it out. This is my first month with consistent high pre O temps. Last month I had good post O temps. So I'm guessing this should be the first cycle it's all working together.

My cycles are regular with very minimal concern, but recently I started experiencing fatigue, thyroid issues (lots of hair fall) and low temps both pre and post O.

Good luck on your soon to be BFP!

Robin - have you noticed any positives since the PCOS diet? Carb cravings suck! Hopefully the cravings will settle down soon.

Tfhan- I hope you O soon.

Good luck SS

XXforhubby
January 3rd, 2017, 04:29 PM
Cosmosis - I've been tweaking herbs for about 3 months and finally figured it out. This is my first month with consistent high pre O temps. Last month I had good post O temps. So I'm guessing this should be the first cycle it's all working together.

My cycles are regular with very minimal concern, but recently I started experiencing fatigue, thyroid issues (lots of hair fall) and low temps both pre and post O.

Good luck on your soon to be BFP!

Robin - have you noticed any positives since the PCOS diet? Carb cravings suck! Hopefully the cravings will settle down soon.

Tfhan- I hope you O soon.

Good luck SS

What herbs are you taking? Just curious!

I had the same things happen to me, low pre-O and low post-O temps, short LP, extreme fatigue, and hair loss by the handfuls! As it turned out, I had extremely low Vitamin D levels. Since I've started supplementing, my symptoms have improved. Hopefully, that means a BFP soon! It has been reported that deficient Vitamin D levels artificially decrease egg quality and cause reversible infertility in women.



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MeanVeggieGal
January 3rd, 2017, 10:43 PM
What herbs are you taking? Just curious!

I had the same things happen to me, low pre-O and low post-O temps, short LP, extreme fatigue, and hair loss by the handfuls! As it turned out, I had extremely low Vitamin D levels. Since I've started supplementing, my symptoms have improved. Hopefully, that means a BFP soon! It has been reported that deficient Vitamin D levels artificially decrease egg quality and cause reversible infertility in women.



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I encapsulate my own herbal/food formula. I use a combination of beef liver (clean, grind, dehydrate at 98 degrees, then finally powder) beef thyroid, organic vitex berries, Siberian gingseng, and bladderwrack. I use 00 capsules. I take 2 first thing in the AM and 2 before bedtime. I was having the exact same symptoms prior to my formula. Now my pre O temps are usually between 97.8 and 98, post O above 98.

My LP has never changed (14 days) and I still had 28 day cycles, but was spotting before and after AF, losing loads of hair, adrenal fatigue, low libido (still working on this) and weight gain.

Now, just working on the low libido and getting in the gym to get rid of the pesky 10 lbs 😤.

I may look into the Vitamin D. Thanks.

Inforthree
January 4th, 2017, 06:31 PM
Well I tested today and I think I'm seeing a faint, faint line. I could be seeing things....I'll have to see what happens tomorrow. If this is it I really think having an attempt before +opk has been important for me. Here's the pic if anyone wants to go cross-eyed with me.

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Inforthree
January 4th, 2017, 06:39 PM
Hmm can't get it to upload.

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Inforthree
January 4th, 2017, 06:42 PM
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XXforhubby
January 4th, 2017, 10:26 PM
Inforthree- I *think* I see a faint line too!!! I can't wait to see your other tests!!

I'm Xing everything for you!!



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Kelbear
January 4th, 2017, 11:10 PM
I am not sure but I may see a faint line, hoping you get a darker line in the next few days. Fingers crossed for you inforthree

Inforthree
January 4th, 2017, 11:28 PM
Thanks, ladies...I'll see what tomorrow brings. I'm hopeful.

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Wantanother2017
January 5th, 2017, 02:08 AM
When are you guys testing? I'm using the cheaper tests that come 50 per kit off amazon...period due in 5 days. So far negative...


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Georgia_Peach
January 5th, 2017, 10:08 AM
Hope your test gets darker!! Very exciting!

Well FF pinpointed ovulation on cycle day 18 for me. We DTD on Friday and I ovulated on Monday.
Hoping I didn't miss the egg. Seems too far off ... I think I'm out this cycle. Not sure what I'm going to do next cycle bc I already have an October baby and with his birthday and Halloween I already find it very busy. I don't know if I want to add to that! However our Oct child has the BEST personality! He is just the sweetest, snuggliest boy around. So easy going and we love that. I'd be over joyed to have another one like him.


Wantanother---The earliest I've ever gotten a positive on an amazon cheapie has been like dpo 13. That's when I had my chemical. With the first responses I got positives at 10 dpo

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cosmosis
January 5th, 2017, 11:36 AM
I tested today aaaaaand BFN.

*sigh* I was extra bummed today because I got some false hope. I just started using IC's and didn't realize there will be a light dye line after the "max" line and it looked like a faint line to me, so I got excited and then super let down when I realized what was going on lol. u_u

I'm SO irritable today. At least temps are staying up. 4 days before AF is supposed to be here.

Inforthree
January 5th, 2017, 11:47 AM
It's still early cosmosis, it's not over til AF arrives!

My line was still super faint this morning but I think something is there. I'm probably 10 dpo today.

Robin - I have a Nov 1 baby! Missed Halloween by 22 minutes. But actually preferred Nov 1 so I kept asking if it was midnight yet. 😜
For me I really think DTD earlier than +opk was important. I DTD Friday, ovulated probably Monday and DTD Monday night. I suppose it could be the second BD, but I just feel like it's the first... So hopefully that timing works for you too!

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Wantanother2017
January 5th, 2017, 01:45 PM
AF due in 5 days, all negative tests so far for me. With my cheapos that is. Not terribly disappointed because I really want to get pregnant on the next cycle for due date reasons.


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cosmosis
January 6th, 2017, 05:39 PM
Sooooo, I found something to play with! :oops:

I was cleaning up all my BFN's and old OPK's to take a break this weekend looool. As I was picking up this morning's dollar store cheapie, I saw a squinter!

I understand it was past its limit, but this brand of tests doesn't give evaps and my OPK didn't get dark enough to be considered a positive until hours later (If you haven't seen my thread, you should lol)

To be fair, I noticed the ink line forming this morning, but after 20 minutes it looked like a blob and not a line so I just left it. I thought maybe I added too much urine and it was messing up.

The dollar store cheapies are 25miu and I took it for comparison purposes, but didn't expect anything to show up.

I got some IC's in the mail a couple of days ago and I've been testing with those since Wednesday, all stark white. I've had this hunch that they are duds OR not as sensitive as claimed to be (10miu).

Anyway I'm providing and old (negative) OPK, a BFN from 8dpo and today's test with FMU. I also inverted them. They are darker in person. I tried scanning and taking photos with different cameras, but is the best that can be done. Humor me, and tell me what you think :D

http://i64.tinypic.com/11kyuj8.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/10zz1n7.jpg

I asked my DD to have a look since she has no earthly idea what all this stuff is, and she told me which ones she saw 2 lines on :D

The problem with my testing (including OPK's) might be that I drink alot of liquid all day long. Not excessive, but in total I drink about 3-4L of liquid per day and most of it is water, some is tea. I can't drink less than that without feeling very dehydrated and uncomfortable.

Anyway, I stocked up on some more dollar tree tests and got a CBD to check progression after a BFP is confirmed. For now, I'll keep entertained with this one lol.

Inforthree
January 6th, 2017, 05:49 PM
I see it on the 13 dpo! Looks like my line does! Yay! Hope ours both keep getting darker!

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Kelbear
January 6th, 2017, 05:55 PM
I can see a faint line on the 13dpo one too

Georgia_Peach
January 6th, 2017, 05:55 PM
Sooooo, I found something to play with! :oops:

I was cleaning up all my BFN's and old OPK's to take a break this weekend looool. As I was picking up this morning's dollar store cheapie, I saw a squinter!

I understand it was past its limit, but this brand of tests doesn't give evaps and my OPK didn't get dark enough to be considered a positive until hours later (If you haven't seen my thread, you should lol)

To be fair, I noticed the ink line forming this morning, but after 20 minutes it looked like a blob and not a line so I just left it. I thought maybe I added too much urine and it was messing up.

The dollar store cheapies are 25miu and I took it for comparison purposes, but didn't expect anything to show up.

I got some IC's in the mail a couple of days ago and I've been testing with those since Wednesday, all stark white. I've had this hunch that they are duds OR not as sensitive as claimed to be (10miu).

Anyway I'm providing and old (negative) OPK, a BFN from 8dpo and today's test with FMU. I also inverted them. They are darker in person. I tried scanning and taking photos with different cameras, but is the best that can be done. Humor me, and tell me what you think :D

http://i64.tinypic.com/11kyuj8.jpg

http://i64.tinypic.com/10zz1n7.jpg

I asked my DD to have a look since she has no earthly idea what all this stuff is, and she told me which ones she saw 2 lines on :D

The problem with my testing (including OPK's) might be that I drink alot of liquid all day long. Not excessive, but in total I drink about 3-4L of liquid per day and most of it is water, some is tea. I can't drink less than that without feeling very dehydrated and uncomfortable.

Anyway, I stocked up on some more dollar tree tests and got a CBD to check progression after a BFP is confirmed. For now, I'll keep entertained with this one lol.
Yay!! I see it too!
I'm wanting to test now to! AF is due for me in a week.
What symptoms have you had?!

Symptoms I've been having this cycle include: excessive bloating, gas, stuffy nose, fatigue, sore breasts and I get these flush faces.. like where my face feels like it's on fire. So odd.. but I can only remember this during early pregnancy..
However I do not feel crampy yet so I'm not getting my hopes up at all. I have a lower right pelvic dull pain that I think is a cyst though. Very frustrating bc for months I thought it was pregnancy pains only to find out I have a cyst on my right ovary!

I might start testing Monday bc I am impatient!

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MeanVeggieGal
January 6th, 2017, 08:15 PM
I see two lines @Cosmosis. Good luck. KMFX for you ladies waiting to test!

Burakoam
January 6th, 2017, 09:23 PM
Cos take another test first thing in the morning...if ithat is a line i think it will be darker then :) good luck!! stalking.

business.woman
January 6th, 2017, 10:54 PM
I see a second line ! YAAAY Cosmo that's great !!

Sorry to jump in , but I was happy for Cosmo.
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babypinkno3
January 7th, 2017, 04:19 AM
@cosmo I (well my husband) found out about DS1 like this. I POS in the morning before work while DH was still asleep, got a BFN and left it out and rushed to work. DH calls me hours later saying "why didn't you wake me up to tell me you're pregnant?" So he got to surprise ME with the news. I've always checked my tests hours later just to be sure for this exact reason.


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cosmosis
January 7th, 2017, 07:04 AM
Yay!! I see it too!
I'm wanting to test now to! AF is due for me in a week.
What symptoms have you had?!

Symptoms I've been having this cycle include: excessive bloating, gas, stuffy nose, fatigue, sore breasts and I get these flush faces.. like where my face feels like it's on fire. So odd.. but I can only remember this during early pregnancy..
However I do not feel crampy yet so I'm not getting my hopes up at all. I have a lower right pelvic dull pain that I think is a cyst though. Very frustrating bc for months I thought it was pregnancy pains only to find out I have a cyst on my right ovary!

I might start testing Monday bc I am impatient!

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I have a very detailed log of my symptoms. The one thing that tops them ALL is frequent bowel movements. Ever since CD14 (O day), I get up between 1-2AM like clockwork with a VERY full bladder and BM. I visit the toilet more times than I can count during the day. It is nuts.My hunger increased drastically and I crave red meat. There's other details, I'll share by DPO once I confirm this.


@cosmo I (well my husband) found out about DS1 like this. I POS in the morning before work while DH was still asleep, got a BFN and left it out and rushed to work. DH calls me hours later saying "why didn't you wake me up to tell me you're pregnant?" So he got to surprise ME with the news. I've always checked my tests hours later just to be sure for this exact reason.


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That's too funny! love it! <3


So, I took another test yesterday evening and it was stark white. I never get evaps, so what I posted yesterday must be legit.

I had alot of fluids last night and I think I implanted later than 7dpo, so have very little hormone circulating. I'm not gonna do like I did with my DD and stalk the clinic for a beta every 2 days looool.

I took another one this morning and it is drying. Not gonna hold my breath lol. Concentration of hormone varies way too much. I was tempted to use my digi and had to force myself to dump my sample before wasting the test! I will wait until AF is actually due to use it. That's in 2 days or so. My temps look good so far which is very promising. I usually have my highest temp on CD26 or CD27 and it slowly falls for the next 3 days. I'm on CD28 today and temp is still up! :) No PMS.

The next 2 days will be looooooong. XD

cosmosis
January 7th, 2017, 07:04 AM
I see a second line ! YAAAY Cosmo that's great !!

Sorry to jump in , but I was happy for Cosmo.
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Aww, thank you for dropping by! <3

cosmosis
January 7th, 2017, 07:57 AM
Also, there's a big chance I O'd on CD16, so that would make me 12dpo today. I'm definitely not an early tester, I was a couple of weeks in when I tested positive with DD and got a faint line on a dollar store test. Got betas afterwards for a week to see doubling.

http://i65.tinypic.com/wbpide.jpg

I haven'y updated my OPK thread on the boards until bfp or AF, but it was never determined when I O'd lol. Testing upon AF due date or late even, should be safest.

PS. A line is forming on the dollar store test, but it is way faint and I can't photograph it yet. Let's see if it gets darker lol.

Georgia_Peach
January 7th, 2017, 09:07 AM
Also, there's a big chance I O'd on CD16, so that would make me 12dpo today. I'm definitely not an early tester, I was a couple of weeks in when I tested positive with DD and got a faint line on a dollar store test. Got betas afterwards for a week to see doubling.

http://i65.tinypic.com/wbpide.jpg

I haven'y updated my OPK thread on the boards until bfp or AF, but it was never determined when I O'd lol. Testing upon AF due date or late even, should be safest.

PS. A line is forming on the dollar store test, but it is way faint and I can't photograph it yet. Let's see if it gets darker lol.
When's AF due?
Did you test today! Eeekk

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cosmosis
January 7th, 2017, 09:18 AM
@Robin , AF is due Monday. My LP is 14-16 days long, never longer. I did take a test this morning and I see a very faint line, nothing I can photograph. I just have to sit tight and wait to see what Monday brings lol.

Georgia_Peach
January 7th, 2017, 09:19 AM
@Robin , AF is due Monday. My LP is 14-16 days long, never longer. I did take a test this morning and I see a very faint line, nothing I can photograph. I just have to sit tight and wait to see what Monday brings lol.
So excited for you!!!

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Burakoam
January 7th, 2017, 10:22 AM
Cos let me see that test!!! I'm good with squints as this one was also a big squinter on a FReR with darker dye lol..

I think you o'd CD 16 or 18 as well. Will have to see what that first ultrasound claims ;) my money is more on 18. But we will see!

XXforhubby
January 7th, 2017, 10:56 AM
FX for you Cosmosis!



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XXforhubby
January 7th, 2017, 10:59 AM
I'll be moving onto the February 2WW thread. I had my first positive opk yesterday, which was also the day my DS2 had surgery to remove his adenoids, tonsils, and lip tie. Needless to say, I threw up last night when coming down from all of the stress, and my DH slept with my DS2 off and on. It just didn't feel right to BD, and I'm pretty sure I already ovulated based on my temp this morning. At least I have time now to regroup diet wise.

FX we see more BFPs!!



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XXforhubby
January 7th, 2017, 11:00 AM
I'm not sure why my chart isn't updating.



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Burakoam
January 7th, 2017, 01:59 PM
Hubby i think your chart has updated and want to reassure you that you still stand a chance even if its not the one big one you want. I had a positive OPK Wednsday but didnt ovulate until saturday per my first ultrasound and the last time we had dtd was thursday..the time before that tuesday..looking at your chart it looks like you ovulated yesterday or today and you have a nice temp rice indicating to me that its over and done with and you should have some nice amount of XX sperm up trying to get to that egg! The stress and worry should also sway pink since its emotional/maternal stress.

Inforthree
January 7th, 2017, 03:54 PM
34359

My second line is a lot darker, but I'm having a little spotting. I'm really hoping it's nothing. I know people have bleeding with their BFP sometimes, but I haven't before...

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cosmosis
January 7th, 2017, 04:01 PM
Cos let me see that test!!! I'm good with squints as this one was also a big squinter on a FReR with darker dye lol..

I think you o'd CD 16 or 18 as well. Will have to see what that first ultrasound claims ;) my money is more on 18. But we will see!

Well, if you insist ;) have at it!

http://i65.tinypic.com/2nh2ulv.jpg
http://i65.tinypic.com/6p3os6.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/1zmoupw.jpg

I brought out some contrast to make it visible to the camera, otherwise it is very tough to see it.

Ovulation on CD16 would make perfect sense for me and my history. I found very bloody discharge on CD17 and it wasn't fresh, so it was most definitely from O considering the pain I experienced. I don't think it takes 3 whole days for Ovulation bleeding to make its way down, 1 day makes more sense, but who knows.

Assuming I did O on CD16 and implanted on 9dpo (my temps did dip that day lol), then it explains why I'm not seeing darker lines yet. That was only 3 days ago! :holysheep: If I O'd on CD14, then I implanted on 11dpo, still 3 days ago. I felt very light headed and almost dizzy that day as well as restless legs for 2 days, which I only had when I was PG with DD. It didn't occur to me that there could be implanting going on that day, I'm glad I took note of every possible symptom. haha!

I love theories. :think:

cosmosis
January 7th, 2017, 04:04 PM
34359

My second line is a lot darker, but I'm having a little spotting. I'm really hoping it's nothing. I know people have bleeding with their BFP sometimes, but I haven't before...

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:running: yay!! What a clear BFP!! Congrats! Can't wait to see lines like that!

XXforhubby
January 7th, 2017, 04:11 PM
Huge congrats Cosmosis and Inforthree! I'm SO very happy for you! I'm praying that this is a nice, healthy, sticky bean you have growing in there!!

Yay [emoji4]!!



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Georgia_Peach
January 7th, 2017, 04:30 PM
34359

My second line is a lot darker, but I'm having a little spotting. I'm really hoping it's nothing. I know people have bleeding with their BFP sometimes, but I haven't before...

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Omg that's so awesome!! Congratulations!!
What dpo are you that you got such a clear line?
January is looking like a great month for everyone so far!😊

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cosmosis
January 7th, 2017, 05:23 PM
@inforthree, Yes, please do tell your dpo and when you took the test! lol.

Burakoam
January 7th, 2017, 06:03 PM
Cos- What kind of digital do you have? is it a clearblue with weeks estimator? If so tomorrow you should take it IMO...i was 7-8 DPO when i got my positive. I thought i was 10-11 DPO or i wouldnt have even tested but dates say i was 7-8 lol Any other kind of digi i do not have experience with and i would not say to do...I know from my HCG levels at the start of this pregnancy that the clearblue with weeks estimator gave me a positive 1-2 weeks result with a level of 10-15. I was extremely impressed.

Burakoam
January 7th, 2017, 06:08 PM
For reference! I can attest the numbers are accurate and also a few others that are due around the time i am or DDG after mine as i frequented these much more back then giving hope and spreading the good news about these digitals :) they should pay me to sponsor them at this point lol..id be way more than happy to do so with how awesome they are. I had beta hCG's and these tests that i took all at the same time and they always matched up to these numbers/ranges perfectly

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cosmosis
January 7th, 2017, 06:39 PM
I took one today and it was negative, but it was like my 3rd urine of the day and even my FMU is diluted due to me drinking fluids until bedtime. I'm not sure what the heck made me do such a silly thing but hey. LOL! I'll do the second one once AF is late. That's $30 for two. I can't afford such an addiction haha

If there was implantation on 11dpo then hcg doubling would go something like this:

Assuming I start with ultra low levels
11dpo 1.5
13dpo 3
15dpo 6
17dpo 12 [AF is 1 day late]
19dpo 24 [AF is 3 days late]
21dpo 48

If I start with 3
11dpo 3
13dpo 6
15dpo 12
17dpo 24 [AF is 1 day late]
19dpo 48 [AF is 3 days late]
21dpo 96

It is cheaper to wait until 16dpo or 17dpo I think. I want to see the dollar store test get a bit darker. If the line just disappears then I'll save it for next cycle :) If my 10miu sensitive IC's are not showing up positive yet, I know for sure I'm on the low end of things. I do have frozen HCG solution in the freezer, I should have tested all of the sticks to have a master control to compare for each brand. That is genius. Too late now LOL.

I have an entire lab at home. :giggle:

Inforthree
January 7th, 2017, 06:45 PM
I'm 12dpo and that was with FMU! I'm really hoping this one is sticky!

Hope your line is darker tomorrow Cosmosis!

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MrsGoodies
January 8th, 2017, 01:22 PM
Congrats inforthree! That was quick! How many cycles past your miscarriage is this?.....

Cosmosis, 11 dpo is a bit late for implantation to occur...it can happen but usually occurs day 6-8 dpo so i think your calculations are slightly off. Fingers crossed for you!

Inforthree
January 8th, 2017, 02:09 PM
Congrats inforthree! That was quick! How many cycles past your miscarriage is this?.....

Cosmosis, 11 dpo is a bit late for implantation to occur...it can happen but usually occurs day 6-8 dpo so i think your calculations are slightly off. Fingers crossed for you!
Yes, it was quick I really think I owe it to having my attempt two days before +opk. Actually, I learned at my D&C that my uterus is retroverted, which it hadn't been before. I wonder if that is why I need the earlier attempt. Just a theory. Anyway, I got my period three weeks after the D&C (mid-Dec) and conceived that cycle.

So far I'm not having anymore spotting today. Usually, I don't get a dating scan with my midwives but I might get one this time. I feel like I'd like some reassurance. But that's still a ways off.

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Burakoam
January 8th, 2017, 02:59 PM
because of the loss they will probably give you a dating scan. I hope it gives you some peace of mind :)

cosmosis
January 8th, 2017, 05:15 PM
Cosmosis, 11 dpo is a bit late for implantation to occur...it can happen but usually occurs day 6-8 dpo so i think your calculations are slightly off. Fingers crossed for you!

I agree, both Burakoam and I think I O'd later. I say CD16 and implanted 9dpo, if at all.

I'm starting to get all emotional the way I do when AF is coming and she's due tomorrow. I didn't test today, I was planning to test if AF is late, which she never ever is by more than 1 day. So, I'll give her until the end of the 10th and test the 11th in the AM. God Willing. Tomorrow's temp will let me know what the deal is.

We'll see!

MeanVeggieGal
January 8th, 2017, 05:29 PM
Congratulations @inforthree! Wishing you a happy & healthy 40 weeks

Burakoam
January 8th, 2017, 06:35 PM
Cos You arent out yet even if thats a normal period symptom for you it was a sign i was pregnant with baby #4 for me! 3-4 days before i even tested!

XXforhubby
January 9th, 2017, 12:03 PM
Well I'm either 2-3dpo. I could have ovulated on either CD13 or CD14 based on temps, CM, opks, and symptoms. I feel I have a decent shot this cycle with our attempts. I'll be testing sometime between the 17th-19th.



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tfahn
January 9th, 2017, 12:12 PM
Congrats Inforthree, I really hope you get your sticky bean.

tfahn
January 9th, 2017, 12:19 PM
Well CD27 for me today and I think I finally got a +OPK!! I have never ovulated this late into a cycle before but Fingers crossed my body was just taking the time to make Goldie :fx:

Inforthree
January 9th, 2017, 03:49 PM
Hope this is your month XX and tfahn!

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Burakoam
January 9th, 2017, 03:55 PM
hubby!!! your temps look like mine did after ovulation this BFP.. awesome!!! fingers so crossed for you.

cosmosis
January 9th, 2017, 07:47 PM
Well I'm either 2-3dpo. I could have ovulated on either CD13 or CD14 based on temps, CM, opks, and symptoms. I feel I have a decent shot this cycle with our attempts. I'll be testing sometime between the 17th-19th.



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Very clear O and thermal shift! The best of luck to you! <3


Well CD27 for me today and I think I finally got a +OPK!! I have never ovulated this late into a cycle before but Fingers crossed my body was just taking the time to make Goldie :fx:

So glad to hear you have an eggie coming! :D hope this is your month.


AFM, just totally bummed out for various reasons. All of the usual life "problems" appear so magnified and overwhelming and they make me cry. I've done NOTHING productive today and spent all my day either in bed or on the couch. Everything is getting to me, especially this ttc stuff. I really cannot be on the HE diet for much longer, I'm not a thin lady and I've worked really hard to overcome obesity...*sigh*

My temp did not drop this morning and AF is officially late tomorrow. I'm tired of peeing on sticks. In fact, I'm tired of peeing. I dont want to drink anything because I'll have to pee an hour later.

I'll give it a couple of more days and test again. My beloved salad greens taste awful now :( they taste like they are covered in lemon rinds. This started yesterday. I usually eat 6-8 cups of leafy greens per day so this took me by surprise. Not sure what's up with that, I don't recall having any food issues with DD.

Ough, I feel sad and depressed. It has been super cold and I haven't been outside in days. I need to snap out of this, it is very unlike me and I feel silly writing it out. I need to do some tapping!

lol, ok I'm done whining. It's part of the 2ww though LOL.These hormones are something else.

foxtrotmama
January 9th, 2017, 08:15 PM
Congrats, Inforthree!

Cosmosis, my food tastes changed right before my BFP with DS2. I suddenly HATED foods that I ate all the time.

XX your chart is looking really nice this month!

XXforhubby
January 9th, 2017, 08:31 PM
I'm hoping you will get your BFP in a few days, Cosmosis! I had HUGE food aversions with DS2. My DH couldn't make coffee at our house, I couldn't drink it either, cooking anything in our house was out of the question. My poor DH had to cook grilled chicken in our garage in sub zero temps, haha!





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Inforthree
January 9th, 2017, 10:07 PM
Sorry you are feeling so down, cosmosis. This swaying/ttcing is a long road. I hope your BFP is still on the way.

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cosmosis
January 10th, 2017, 08:18 AM
Thank you ladies! It is very nice to have a place to go to and be understood! <3

My temps are even higher today, I was sweating all night and the constant bathroom visits are messing up my sleep. I JUST recovered from insomnia a couple of months ago so this kind of sucks (but if its due to a bean, I'll take it haha).

I'm unsure if my hopes are high or low, they are just neutral LOL. I feel alot better emotionally this morning. Not sure if I'm going to test tomorrow morning or not. I feel I should give AF a few more days and just keep an eye on my temps. If this isn't my month, I won't be buying any tests until AF is missing. That's the more sane thing to do haha.

tfahn
January 10th, 2017, 08:40 AM
Your chart is looking great Cosmosis, Fingers crossed for you.

XXforhubby
January 10th, 2017, 08:59 AM
I'm Xing everything for you Cosmosis! I agree with Tfahn, your chart is looking fab!!

I'll be stalking for updates!!



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Inforthree
January 10th, 2017, 11:01 AM
Thank you ladies! It is very nice to have a place to go to and be understood! <3

My temps are even higher today, I was sweating all night and the constant bathroom visits are messing up my sleep. I JUST recovered from insomnia a couple of months ago so this kind of sucks (but if its due to a bean, I'll take it haha).

I'm unsure if my hopes are high or low, they are just neutral LOL. I feel alot better emotionally this morning. Not sure if I'm going to test tomorrow morning or not. I feel I should give AF a few more days and just keep an eye on my temps. If this isn't my month, I won't be buying any tests until AF is missing. That's the more sane thing to do haha.
Seems like you are good place for a BFP! I think you should test tomorrow! FX!

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srg09cag11
January 10th, 2017, 02:32 PM
Hey, all!
I haven't been on these boards much lately, but the hubs and I put in our first attempt this month! I don't know how I'll handle four kids... eek!

XXforhubby
January 10th, 2017, 02:54 PM
Hey, all!
I haven't been on these boards much lately, but the hubs and I put in our first attempt this month! I don't know how I'll handle four kids... eek!

Good to hear from you Srg!! I feel the same way sometimes! How many dpo are you?



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Burakoam
January 10th, 2017, 03:33 PM
Cosmosis...-little devil on your shoulder- tesssttt!!

cosmosis
January 10th, 2017, 04:15 PM
LOL! Well..... Atomic is suggesting I may have O'd on CD or 20/21st, very close to what you were suggesting. IF this is the case, it explains the BFN's. I just have to wait until after AF is way late. I'm either 15DPO or 11DPO. I'll try my best to hold off until the weekend, especially since I'm feeling crampy. My daytime temp is 99.1F ha.ha.ha. I really do not like the 2WW.

XXforhubby
January 10th, 2017, 04:22 PM
FX so hard for you Cosmosis! The 2WW is such a mind f$&k isn't it, haha!

Keep us updated! I'm living vicariously through you, since I'm so far away from testing. I'm either 3 or 4dpo!



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cosmosis
January 11th, 2017, 01:31 PM
Good day ladies :)

Well I caved and tested this morning. Still BFN. I may or may not see a shadow of a line, but it isn't acceptable this far in the game. I'm becoming more convinced that A) I O'd WAY later, like CD21 OR my body is getting rid of all traces of hcg in my urine since they wouldn't be very high right now anyway.

Why do I believe this? Because I've used hCG for things other than fertility and I did it for several months in the last few years, unlike trigger shots which are used once per month in high doses.

I think my body learned how to efficiently get hCG out of my system quickly and efficiently, at least the small amounts. I hope that makes sense. So what this means is that it won't be available in my urine for a while, until levels are consistently higher than the doses I've used for my shenanigans.

I'm going to test my cervical fluid tonight. I put a diva cup in there to collect it for the rest of the day. Apparently, the hCG found in cervical fluid is synthesized by syncytiotrophoblast cells, so it is processed differently than the hCG found in urine.

I'm quite obviously bored and growing impatient. I'll let you ladies know how this goes LOL. I'm down to my last 3 IC's and I'm not ordering more, although the dollar store is down the street *sigh*. I'm sure they think I'm a weirdo by now.

I'm quite annoyed because I made sure to be absolutely regular in the last 5 years lol. I quit smoking, I turned my health around, lost a ton of weight and I've charted. Everything was perfect to go for an egg and now this. :| :| :|

Oh yeah and by "a while" I mean like another week. That's too long for me to sit here "patiently" and not do anything. Blood draws are not an option for me any time soon. Womp.

Burakoam
January 11th, 2017, 01:48 PM
Cosmosis i get your frustration...i think atomic has very good reason to think you ovulated on cd 20-21...your chart looks pretty similar to my chart in july where i geared up to O and then didnt, and then did 3-5 days later. Your temps are still high so by all means you arent out yet..but i would think even at 11 DPO you would have a BFP by now..everyone is different though and there seem to be quite a few blue babies that take longer to pop up on a pee stick so we will see :)

cosmosis
January 11th, 2017, 01:59 PM
Well, something's gotta give. I feel out of it the last 3 days. I feel a bit lightheaded on and off and had heart palpitations this morning. I have to charge my fit bit to monitor my heart rate. I am officially late today, and if I O'd on the 21st then I have 4 more days to go until I'm late...again. ha!

XXforhubby
January 11th, 2017, 03:11 PM
I'm still very hopeful for you Cosmosis! I agree and think you are not out of the woods yet!



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XXforhubby
January 11th, 2017, 03:14 PM
I'm SO over the 2WW. I'm either 4-5dpo and hate pretty charts! Ugh, the next 6-8 days are going to go by so ssssloooow!



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cosmosis
January 11th, 2017, 03:40 PM
Thank you XX :)

I said the same exact thing 2 weeks ago. U_U I'm one of those people that nothing ever works for with all the exceptions loooooool.It makes room for innovation and creativity though, so I can't complain. I'm not surprised I'm being made to wait alot more than 2 weeks haha!

tfahn
January 11th, 2017, 03:41 PM
Fingers crossed for you XX and Cosmosis.

Another temp dip this morning, I just want to get crosshairs on my chart already! :) On my OPK this morning my test line was actually darker then the control so I am not giving up hope yet that I will ovulate soon. I think maybe skip BD tonight since we had 3 nights in a row and then BD tomorrow night?

tfahn
January 11th, 2017, 03:44 PM
Would you call the below OPK positive? This was from Monday, trying to figure out if Monday or Today was my first positive OPK

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cosmosis
January 11th, 2017, 04:47 PM
@tfan, I'm jaded when it comes to OPK's, mine never got darker or as dark as the control line at any point lol. Are you swaying?


Alright, so I tested my CM and I actually got something on the IC for once. These don't evap either, I've gone through 12 and all are stark white. Check it:

http://i67.tinypic.com/5nloab.jpg
http://i63.tinypic.com/2nk1c2v.jpg
http://i65.tinypic.com/72gh1g.jpg
http://i66.tinypic.com/qpjuk9.jpg

Dunno what to think. Just amusing myself at this point. XD

Burakoam
January 11th, 2017, 04:54 PM
Tfahn, i dont think i would personally call that positive...I dont know if i still have pictures of my OPK when i ovulated or not i'll check it out for those of you struggling to pinpoint O....But my first "o" the line didnt get as dark as the control line but i had all the other signs...my ACTUAL O (3-5 days later cant remember) the test line was so dark it was ridiculous and even i was like "holy moly am i popping the egg RIGHT this second!?" lol

Cos i dont see even a hint of a line :( i dont want to dash your hopes either but i cant tell if its just the cheapies you are using or what but i 'maybe' saw something a few days ago with those tests but on those they do look stark white.. the line that is playing tricks on you on the new ones seems to be a dye run, which happens even in the nicer tests..i remember a lot of first responses at one point got recalled i think due to bad dye runs where you couldnt get accurate results..just to put SOME hope back in the equation. If you did O on cd 20-21, when is the last time you DTD around that time?

XX-- That is one of the prettiest charts i have seen in a long while and i know why you are getting your hopes up with it..cant say i blame you either ;)

Georgia_Peach
January 11th, 2017, 04:56 PM
Would you call the below OPK positive? This was from Monday, trying to figure out if Monday or Today was my first positive OPK

34439
I think it's almost positive yes!.
If you're swaying boy this sounds like a great plan.

Cos
I do see a line but shouldn't it be pink too? All these tests confuse me.

As for me..
I am 9dpo today. Testing this morning but I think I getting line eyes. It looks like nothing and yet something. I feel like I'm loosing my mind now. Af is due tomorrow but FF changed that date 4 days later bc I ovulated late according to it. We will see. I've never been past Cd30.
Last night I had horrific cramps along with sweats. Couldn't sleep bc of it. Temps are still up though.

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Georgia_Peach
January 11th, 2017, 04:58 PM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170111/0adf01e19b9a41e7b4cea26bb0cc120b.jpg

My chart so far

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cosmosis
January 11th, 2017, 05:05 PM
Chart is looking promising!! :D :D

tfahn
January 11th, 2017, 05:09 PM
Fingers crossed for you Robin, Hopefully we all get our stickies this month!

tfahn
January 11th, 2017, 05:12 PM
This is my OPK from this morning, it's darker then control and turned almost positive almost right away so I know I am really surging at this point. I started out this journey wanting a DS but after 2 years and 3 CP's I would be over the moon for a sticky healthy baby, boy or girl. I'll see what DH says about BD tonight or tomorrow I guess, but I'm sure he could use a break at this point :) But we can't BD til after 10 pm in the evenings so I'm not sure if maybe tomorrow night will be to late to count for anything.

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cosmosis
January 11th, 2017, 05:16 PM
Tfahn, i dont think i would personally call that positive...I dont know if i still have pictures of my OPK when i ovulated or not i'll check it out for those of you struggling to pinpoint O....But my first "o" the line didnt get as dark as the control line but i had all the other signs...my ACTUAL O (3-5 days later cant remember) the test line was so dark it was ridiculous and even i was like "holy moly am i popping the egg RIGHT this second!?" lol

Cos i dont see even a hint of a line :( i dont want to dash your hopes either but i cant tell if its just the cheapies you are using or what but i 'maybe' saw something a few days ago with those tests but on those they do look stark white.. the line that is playing tricks on you on the new ones seems to be a dye run, which happens even in the nicer tests..i remember a lot of first responses at one point got recalled i think due to bad dye runs where you couldnt get accurate results..just to put SOME hope back in the equation. If you did O on cd 20-21, when is the last time you DTD around that time?

XX-- That is one of the prettiest charts i have seen in a long while and i know why you are getting your hopes up with it..cant say i blame you either ;)

It's tough to get a photo of a line that s barely there, but as it dried it got a bit darker all the way through. I should at least have a chemical on its way out with all the BD lol. We BD'd every other day, then back to back on positive OPK and once on CD20 and once on CD21.

Burakoam
January 11th, 2017, 09:47 PM
Cos (and anyone else about to test) This was my test this BFP when my hcg levels were 10-15

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This was from a late O too so i thought i was 10-11 DPO or i wouldnt have tested..in reality i was 8-9 DPO as i later found out. Nobody is out until the fat lady sings but with your high temps cos and the negative tests either the tests are bad OR you ovulated MUCH later than you think lol..what brand are those tests? someone just posted in these forums the other day a bad batch of wondfo cheapies with the lot number to know they were bad

Pbn3
January 12th, 2017, 04:45 AM
Hi! Thread crashing sorry to say I'm following tfahn!!! Where has your chart link gone lol??? Are you still charting? That's a super pos opk you posted last and so excited you're going to be in the 2ww!!!

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cosmosis
January 12th, 2017, 06:23 AM
Cos (and anyone else about to test) This was my test this BFP when my hcg levels were 10-15

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This was from a late O too so i thought i was 10-11 DPO or i wouldnt have tested..in reality i was 8-9 DPO as i later found out. Nobody is out until the fat lady sings but with your high temps cos and the negative tests either the tests are bad OR you ovulated MUCH later than you think lol..what brand are those tests? someone just posted in these forums the other day a bad batch of wondfo cheapies with the lot number to know they were bad

10-15 blood levels?

I'm tempted to go get a couple of frers, but I'm gonna hold off until this coming wednesday, which makes me 7/8 days late for AF. So far my temp is holding at 98.3 or above for 8 days straight, I've never seen that in my history of charting lol. If it drops below at any point, I'm positive she'll be on her way. I'd rather spend that money on a box of good quality OPK's for next round if I am indeed out.

I hate to say this but, only time will tell.
http://i67.tinypic.com/r2j9d2.jpg

maximbella
January 12th, 2017, 07:23 AM
Hi ladies!! I'm relatively new to this site, and just today found this thread! I'm 35, TTC #3 (DD1 is 6, DD2 is 5). Both of my girls were conceived first try (of course, I was a lot younger ;), but this little journey for #3 has been taxing, to say the least. I got off BCP 3 months ago...first month was anovulatory, second month we didn't try, so this is my first official month trying. Can you please take a look at my chart? Typically O around CD 21-25, but this month it looks like it could have been earlier. FF keeps moving my dates from CD 15-17, and honestly don't know if either is true. Is there any hope for me...stark white BFN's so far. :worry:

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Burakoam
January 12th, 2017, 10:06 AM
Yes because I had a history of infertility and just had a baby they got me in pretty fast 2 days later and my level was 20. Later found out I had a normal 24-48 HR doubling time and so it makes sense when I took that test and got my positive it was 10. The clearblue week indicator (1-2) was also positive which was my biggest shock to say the least. Their bare minimum for positive is 10.


Maxim- whenever I see spikes like that I have to wonder if you geared up to O on CD15 but then didn't as you did have a good jump seemingly on cd22 as well which is around the time you say you normally ovulate...the OPK you did on Cd 21 was that AM or PM test? did you have any other fertile signs those 2 days?

maximbella
January 12th, 2017, 10:21 AM
Maxim- whenever I see spikes like that I have to wonder if you geared up to O on CD15 but then didn't as you did have a good jump seemingly on cd22 as well which is around the time you say you normally ovulate...the OPK you did on Cd 21 was that AM or PM test? did you have any other fertile signs those 2 days?

Thank you, Burakoam! I was starting to think the same thing, but there's so many variables here. I was really trying to take a laid back approach to this (which is SO opposite of my type A personality), and now I'm kicking myself for not being regimented enough with opk's, testing, temping at same times, etc. Could my opk really be positive on the 14th and then not O until CD22? I did the OPK's two times a day (around 11am and then again around 5pm). No other fertility signs...can you see this chart with more details better? https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/24dd4d

By the way, Burakoam - congrats on DD4! I know it was a sway opposite, but I'm the 3rd of 4 girls in my family and I can honestly tell you that is AMAZING! Your girls will have best friends built in forever. It's part of the reason that I'm swaying so heavily pink...I want the same for my DD's. I'm so jealous!! :heart:

Burakoam
January 12th, 2017, 10:42 AM
It is possible maxim. My first positive OPK with this baby (DD4) was July 9th... I had EWCM and O pain and a solid smiley... by Sunday the OPK was negative my EWCM was gone and I was just really moody (which I now relate to my body being angry I didn't pop the egg when it tried lol) I started getting huge copious amounts of EWCM on the 12th though.. more than I ever had. (Keep in mind though I was swaying blue, and with a good pink sway you may not have that!) I ignored it throughout the day but I woke up in the middle of the night with bad O pain and so I took an OPK.. this was about 12 am wednsday the 13th..and it was positive. Not only was I floored but the line on the OPK was SO dark I then panicked thinking I was already ovulated that day and missed a window but tried to make the best of it.. good thing I did because even though I had a positive the Friday before and a positive wednsday I actually didn't ovulate until late Friday/Saturday after my SECOND positive OPK! (Confirmed with dating scan)I still think this is a crazy story to tell but important for others to know..not only can your O be delayed but then you can also O at the last possible second in the ovulation window.. so if an OPK had been positive for you on CD 21-22.. it's possible Egg didn't pop until cd 23-25. Which would mean your negatives are because you simply aren't enough DPO!

Burakoam
January 12th, 2017, 10:48 AM
I feel like delayed O happens a lot to 'girl' moms maxim.. just from what I have seen on this site so far and my history of also ovulating late or delayed and late..so this is actually good for someone who swayed pink such as yourself and may also be why you have two other daughters.. and maybe DD3 on the way ;)

All you can do now is watch your temps and reset your DPO for curiosity sake and estimate when you should test for each possible day.. if You get a positive pregnancy test you can then in some form do the math to know when you really did ovulate :)

ETA I am specifically looking at your bloat on CD23... I was extremely bloated after my delayed O..come to find out (and I didn't know until I looked it up back then!!) some women who ovulate have the bloating right after especially those with a delayed or 'strong' egg pop

maximbella
January 12th, 2017, 10:48 AM
WOW!!! That's incredible!! So what was your BD timing when you finally O'd?

Okay you're giving me hope!!! Really wish I would have kept up with my OPK's to see if something similar happened to me!

Burakoam
January 12th, 2017, 10:57 AM
Tuesday the 12th and Thursday the 14th.. I really thought I'd ovulate Thursday or early Friday.. I couldn't believe I didn't pop until Saturday but baby growth matched up as well as when she could finally be measured she was a Saturday baby. My hcg was excellent but they couldn't see her on an ultrasound wen I went in with "my" dates.. that's because I told them Thursday and then she was 2 days behind. I was floored to say the least and sort of knew at that point she was probably another girl. Some women can get boys with 2 day+ cut offs... I'm not one of them :( it's alright though.. DD3 seems happier about a sister anyhow.

maximbella
January 12th, 2017, 11:07 AM
That's so cool, and I can't tell you enough how amazing that will be (and how jealous I am!). Huge congrats to you!

My DD's are 6.5 and 5 and I was starting to worry about an age gap with a 3rd (since I'm not sure I can convince my DH to have a fourth!). Do all 3 DD's get along nicely?

Burakoam
January 12th, 2017, 11:40 AM
Mine is a little different but i promise there is SOME light at the end of it, lol..my 11 year old and my 6 year old do not get along at all. They fight like cats and dogs. However i dont think this is the 'norm' for sisters..i know there is meant to be some disagreement but i believe mine have it extreme..but its a conflict in personalities. My oldest is more like me, and my middle daughter is more like my mother..and you should see how well WE get along LOL (which is NOT AT ALL)..so i believe thats why they are the way they are...

my 6 year old doesnt think much of my 15 month old..BUT its because my 15 month old is alot like my husband who DD2 does not like but DD1 adores. So likewise with that, my 10 year old is very very close to my 15 month old..she likes to help take care of her, play with her, and is just an awesome big sister. also DD3 ADORES DD2 even if the feelings are not mutual so there is also that.

I would have baby #4 sooner rather than later if i were you..but only because then if you get 4 DD's they each have their own playmate and close friend :) my gaps wouldnt be that big but after DD1 i really wasnt going to have anymore..then after DD2 i made SURE i wasnt going to have anymore and had clips put on...then i married my DH and he wanted Bio kids (of course) so i took them off...and now im doing it the way i would have done it had i wanted 20 kids lol...even though this is for sure my last as i just dont think i can mentally or physically do pregnancy anymore after this

tfahn
January 12th, 2017, 12:27 PM
Hi PBN3, good to see you around. Yes, still charting away, lol. How is everything going with you?

My chart link should still be in my signature but I'll add a screen shot of my chart incase you can't get to it.

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tfahn
January 12th, 2017, 12:34 PM
CD30, no ovulation temp jump and still a positive OPK this morning. This is getting ridiculous :) We ended up BD'ing last night, with my OPK so positive yesterday I just couldn't pass so we will skip tonight most likely. Maybe it's an anovulatory cycle? I never had one of those before

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cosmosis
January 12th, 2017, 12:41 PM
If gender doesn't matter for you, just keep going EOD until you confirm O and after lol. I believe I was very stressed to get my 3 attempts in and wound up delaying my O by 5 days. I'm so glad we just kept the pattern going.

Burakoam
January 12th, 2017, 03:12 PM
Tfahn..any chance you are getting a positive OPK because you are picking up HCG?? What day do you normally ovulate? How many DPO do YOU think you are and most importantly if you could be 10 DPO+.. have you tested with a pregnancy test? :X

I can't read you chart as easily as I can others.. it's probably my fault my brain is total garbage ATM... it just looks different to other FF charts but maybe you have it in a different mode or something.. I am thinking you may want to pee on a pregnancy stick...

tfahn
January 12th, 2017, 03:25 PM
Way ahead of you Burakoam, tried an IC and a FRER this morning and both were negative :) I normally ovulate anywhere from CD 14-18. 2 months ago I was on the pill for about 12 days when I thought I was going to do IVF, we changed our minds. I stopped the pill mid pack and 4 days later had my withdrawal bleed from the pills. The next cycle was short, 24 days, but FF gave me CH and said I ovulated but only had a 8 day LP. And now I'm onto this LOOONNGGG cycle and really I don't think I ovulated yet since my temps have not stayed in the post O range at all. Prior to the pill month I was on fertility treatments for about 10 cycles, so maybe my body is just taking time to get back to normal.

Burakoam
January 12th, 2017, 05:55 PM
Tfahn for what it's worth to perk you up a bit.. June 2016 I didn't ovulate either or bleed.. i just kept going up there in cycle days until I was pregnant the following ovulation in July.. its long and tedious but keep looking for your signs and do your BD pattern with hubby.. something will give eventually wether you bleed or get a positive test :)

Shannshaff
January 12th, 2017, 07:49 PM
Hi all, just got caught up on everyone. Good Luck to all that are testing soon. Cos - looks promising from what I can see. XX - FX for you too. Tfahn - I have been rooting for you for a long time!
AFM - just waiting to O. But at least I can now say I am in that stage. :)

cosmosis
January 13th, 2017, 08:04 AM
Thank you @shannshaff! :)


Alright, so my temps went up today (not sure how as I was freezing and shivering), but I may discard it because I didn't get 3 full hours of sleep after I woke up for the toilet. I tested and still BFN. Gonna give it 2 more days. I'll be 16DPO in 2 days and that is also AF's new due date. :think:

tfahn
January 13th, 2017, 08:26 AM
Tfahn for what it's worth to perk you up a bit.. June 2016 I didn't ovulate either or bleed.. i just kept going up there in cycle days until I was pregnant the following ovulation in July.. its long and tedious but keep looking for your signs and do your BD pattern with hubby.. something will give eventually wether you bleed or get a positive test :)

Thanks Burakoam. I was looking at charts yesterday with late ovulation in Fertility Friend and there did seem to be a lot of them that ended up with a BFP so I guess I will just go back to EOD BD until I see a temp shift, get a BFP or AF.

XXforhubby
January 13th, 2017, 08:55 AM
Thank you @shannshaff! :)


Alright, so my temps went up today (not sure how as I was freezing and shivering), but I may discard it because I didn't get 3 full hours of sleep after I woke up for the toilet. I tested and still BFN. Gonna give it 2 more days. I'll be 16DPO in 2 days and that is also AF's new due date. :think:

Don't despair yet! With my DS2, I felt pregnant but couldn't get a positive on a hpt until I was 21dpo!! I had delayed ovulation that cycle, so I was sure of my O date. He was also a late implanter as well.

I'm holding onto hope for you!!!



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maximbella
January 13th, 2017, 09:08 AM
Hi ladies! I know I'm new here, but don't really know where else to wait and share... Temp stayed at 98.2 today, but I woke up with cramps and tested to get another BFN. Really disheartening... I had pretty close to zero CM this cycle (maybe from changing up my diet and adding more acidic things like wine, diet cokes, etc.)...could that have been the problem?

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/24dd4d

You other ladies have good looking charts! FX for you!!

Georgia_Peach
January 13th, 2017, 09:15 AM
Had a lower temp this morning.. I think I am out. But I have been getting extreme headaches the past 2 days and I've been using peppermint oil at night on my head to combat. I'm wondering if that along with me getting up multiple times (bc of it) a night might be causing lower temp?
AF is due today.. I didn't test this morning bc yesterday was bfn on cheapie.

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cosmosis
January 13th, 2017, 09:29 AM
Hi ladies! I know I'm new here, but don't really know where else to wait and share... Temp stayed at 98.2 today, but I woke up with cramps and tested to get another BFN. Really disheartening... I had pretty close to zero CM this cycle (maybe from changing up my diet and adding more acidic things like wine, diet cokes, etc.)...could that have been the problem?

https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/24dd4d

You other ladies have good looking charts! FX for you!!

The temp itself isn't going to tell anything unless it is higher than your normal temp at this stage, but even then, you'd need to get towards the very end of you LP to make anything of it. If you are aiming for girl, then you want a more hostile environment so less CM is a good thing in this case.

I can relate to the disheartening BFN. I've been getting those for a good while now. Hang in there, it is only a matter of time and you'll know. :)

cosmosis
January 13th, 2017, 09:30 AM
Had a lower temp this morning.. I think I am out. But I have been getting extreme headaches the past 2 days and I've been using peppermint oil at night on my head to combat. I'm wondering if that along with me getting up multiple times (bc of it) a night might be causing lower temp?
AF is due today.. I didn't test this morning bc yesterday was bfn on cheapie.

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Awww <3 I know the feeling. Did the temp drop below your coverline? If not, then don't worry about it. Getting up multiple times will affect temps for sure.

maximbella
January 13th, 2017, 09:49 AM
Thank you cosmo...really appreciate it! And you're right, but this wait is just the worst, as you know. Your chart looks promising, fingers crossed for you!

maximbella
January 13th, 2017, 09:54 AM
Cosmo - off topic but how did you add your FF chart to your signature below?

cosmosis
January 13th, 2017, 10:05 AM
Cosmo - off topic but how did you add your FF chart to your signature below?

When you are in FF, find the "sharing" button and in sharing find "code", then choose thumbnail. :)

Burakoam
January 13th, 2017, 11:44 AM
Maxim if I recall by adjusted ovulation you were 6DPo so today you are 7-8 DPO.. I think it's just too early to test yet him :) few more days should give you an accurate answer!

maximbella
January 13th, 2017, 12:15 PM
Maxim if I recall by adjusted ovulation you were 6DPo so today you are 7-8 DPO.. I think it's just too early to test yet him :) few more days should give you an accurate answer!

True, but woke up today with big AF like cramps and emotional, which typically means she's on her way... really praying your guess is right! 😔

Burakoam
January 13th, 2017, 01:54 PM
I had awful cramps because of the bloating the week before my BFP. Hang in there.

Georgia_Peach
January 13th, 2017, 02:17 PM
AF showed... I'm out.
Sonohystogram in a few days now followed by this cycle being tracked by a fertility clinic. Hoping to get a trigger shot and clomid next cycle.
This will be cycle#5 for us.
So odd we are having such troubles npw. We conceived all other 3 children no more than 2 cycles.

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maximbella
January 13th, 2017, 02:32 PM
I had awful cramps because of the bloating the week before my BFP. Hang in there.

Thank you, burakoam!! Trying to hang in there...HATE this wait! ;)

maximbella
January 13th, 2017, 02:32 PM
When you are in FF, find the "sharing" button and in sharing find "code", then choose thumbnail. :)


Cosmo - how do you add it in GD? I can't find how to edit my profile?

Shannshaff
January 13th, 2017, 02:41 PM
Sorry AF found you Robin :(

tfahn
January 13th, 2017, 02:44 PM
To add the link to your signature: Go to the settings link at the top of the page and then edit signature

cosmosis
January 13th, 2017, 02:48 PM
AF showed... I'm out.
Sonohystogram in a few days now followed by this cycle being tracked by a fertility clinic. Hoping to get a trigger shot and clomid next cycle.
This will be cycle#5 for us.
So odd we are having such troubles npw. We conceived all other 3 children no more than 2 cycles.

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I'm so sorry to hear this :( *big hugs*

How long is you LP?

Georgia_Peach
January 13th, 2017, 02:50 PM
I'm so sorry to hear this :( *big hugs*

How long is you LP?
IF this cycle of FF was right... today was dpo 11 so I think 11 days this one. But every other cycle so far it's been 14-15 at most. I'm not sure what's going on. Is 11 LP too short?

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cosmosis
January 13th, 2017, 02:53 PM
Yes, 11 is waaay short. Some women conceive like this but it really limits implantation. Was O confirmed? Do you have a chart I can look at?

Georgia_Peach
January 13th, 2017, 02:55 PM
Yes, 11 is waaay short. Some women conceive like this but it really limits implantation. Was O confirmed? Do you have a chart I can look at?
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170113/48fca524c7650d93bfa981c33c3bc1ca.jpg

I'm not sure FF had it right this month. Bc my high fever ran during the days I usually ovulate. I'm wondering if it just missed it bc i had to delete those temps bc they were high from fever.

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cosmosis
January 13th, 2017, 03:27 PM
Perhaps FF did get it wrong and if this isn't normal for you it does back up your suspicion. :(

XXforhubby
January 13th, 2017, 05:42 PM
I'm so sorry AF came, Robin [emoji20].

11 day LP is NOT short at all and perfectly fine for an egg to implant. Anything less than 10 is considered short and most docs will not treat for a short LP unless it's less than 9.

FX that your appointment with your RE will give some answers.

(((HUGE HUGS)))



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cosmosis
January 13th, 2017, 05:50 PM
I guess it depends on how you look at it. Compared to a 14-16 day LP, 11 is short. Implantation can take place as late as 12dpo so 1 day makes a difference. I'm not speaking from a main****** medicine perspective though and I didn't consider that kind of treatment when I made the suggestion :) The more time an egg has to burrow, the better chances of a successful pregnancy.


AFM, I feel very lightheaded today as well as crampy and kinda wishing I did things differently during my attempt. I was pretty certain I had O'd earlier so I got a bit more relaxed by CD20 lol. I really wish I could take my mind off this completely.

Inforthree
January 13th, 2017, 07:23 PM
Sorry robin! My LP has always about 10/11 days since I started swaying. It's so annoying that TTC a girl makes it harder for us to conceive but at least we know the sway is doing something. Hugs!

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Burakoam
January 13th, 2017, 09:22 PM
cosmo when you planning on testing again?

Erin514
January 13th, 2017, 11:40 PM
Robin, I don't think an 11 day LP is short, either. I understand what Cosmosis is saying--who knows if that extra day might be the one that makes a difference--but 11 days should be enough for an average pregnancy to implant. I had a 9-day LP prior to getting a BFP and I still managed to conceive on the first cycle. Granted, everyone is different, but I wouldn't worry too much about 11 days.

cosmosis
January 14th, 2017, 07:43 AM
cosmo when you planning on testing again?

I lost my urge to test LOL. All the BFN's turned me off, plus I'm down to 1 IC and 1 CBD. My temps are still up and I'm having some wild dreams with people I haven't seen in so many years. It's so weird! Kind of enjoying it haha.

I suppose I can test after the magical 17 temps above coverline. So on 18dpo, in 3 days.

How long does a chemical pregnancy take to do its thing? What symptoms should I be looking out for? I'm bracing myself for a BFN at 18dpo.

XXforhubby
January 14th, 2017, 10:18 AM
We will be testing at the same time, Cosmosis! I'll be 10dpo and having the desire/fear to test. I might chicken out and wait until 13dpo when AF is late.

FX you get your BFP!



[emoji170][emoji1379]DS1, [emoji577]DS2, & [emoji602]DS3[emoji170]
[emoji166]One Last Pink Sway[emoji166]
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My Ovulation Chart (https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

Burakoam
January 14th, 2017, 10:20 AM
A chemical should still give a positive pregnancy test to my knowledge so I don't think that's what's going on here. I think eggie popped for you later than you think and DPO is just really off. Have you ever had an ultrasound on the days you swear you ovulate? If not how do you know you ovulate quickly in your window vs the tail end of it? I swore a positive smiley meant I was going to ovulate any time yet it seems my egg pops 3 days after a solid the last two pregnancies. I doubt I'm a freak of nature so I am sure others have the same thing happen to them. So even with the temp rise I think entirely possible your egg popped 22-25. If baby is blue and not pink they do tend to take much longer to get a positive test with for some women.. who knows why

XXforhubby
January 14th, 2017, 10:21 AM
To answer your question about chemical pregnancies, they typically occur around the time AF is due (4-6weeks gestation).

FX you just have a late implanter!!



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[emoji166]One Last Pink Sway[emoji166]
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My Ovulation Chart (https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

Georgia_Peach
January 14th, 2017, 10:23 AM
I had AF arrive after my chemical right on schedule. (29 days.)

I think you should just test already! Lol

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cosmosis
January 14th, 2017, 11:18 AM
We will be testing at the same time, Cosmosis! I'll be 10dpo and having the desire/fear to test. I might chicken out and wait until 13dpo when AF is late.

FX you get your BFP!



Yay!! I'm excited for you! <3


A chemical should still give a positive pregnancy test to my knowledge so I don't think that's what's going on here. I think eggie popped for you later than you think and DPO is just really off. Have you ever had an ultrasound on the days you swear you ovulate? If not how do you know you ovulate quickly in your window vs the tail end of it? I swore a positive smiley meant I was going to ovulate any time yet it seems my egg pops 3 days after a solid the last two pregnancies. I doubt I'm a freak of nature so I am sure others have the same thing happen to them. So even with the temp rise I think entirely possible your egg popped 22-25. If baby is blue and not pink they do tend to take much longer to get a positive test with for some women.. who knows why

OMG don't even say that. I think I stopped using preseed by CD25. I doubt I O'd that late in the game though . I can't believe this kind of stuff happened during the cycle of our first attempt. How annoying.

No, I've never gotten an ultrasound to check for ovulation, I wouldn't doubt I O later and I don't personally believe that the dip we see on charts means O. It just doesn't add up with all the stories I've seen. I tend to get a big dip on the most painful day, so I was connecting them, but it could very well be the swelling up before popping out. I have never seen bloody discharge after O pain like I did this cycle, I got the bloody discharge on CD17, so 3 days after the dip :think:

I plan to start a thread to try and pinpoint my O day after I confirm BFP for dating purposes lol. I played around with my chart this morning and its just all over the place. I've never had a chart that slowly climbs like this.



I think you should just test already! Lol



LOL! I feel more peaceful without testing TBH, if I get a negative, THEN WHAT? :p loooool

maximbella
January 14th, 2017, 11:31 AM
I'm testing with you ladies in 3 days. FX for us!

My chart today....these ups and downs are too much! :nails:

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Burakoam
January 14th, 2017, 12:05 PM
Maxim something for you and cosmo to keep in mind is some women, not all, get implantation dips. I only see the one dip so far max... isn't that around adjust ovulation 8-9 DPO too? ;)

cosmosis
January 14th, 2017, 12:18 PM
I have so many ups and downs on my chart that its a bit difficult to tell, but my temps stabilized starting CD25, so if anything, that's when I'd think implantation happened.

Burakoam
January 14th, 2017, 02:22 PM
see if you end up pregnant this cycle cosmo i actually have changed your ovulation date in my head to CD 25 and you are 10 DPO IMO...my reasoning is there is a good spike again, your best yet, on CD 26..and only since then have you stayed consistently above 98.0 degrees. I know thats not what you want to hear but from a mom who got 2 girls with pre seed, pre seed is definitely not make or break for a boy sway.. if you are going to ovulate the truth is it can happen at ANY point within reason after CD 12 and i think some women have even ovulated earlier not that its ideal obviously..and some ovulate very late especially someone who normally has long cycles...but you are already looking at a longish cycle at this point even if thats not your norm.

Your temps look great now and have been steadily climbing.. i DO think you have ovulated this cycle so its just a matter of pinpointing it and if it resulted in conception!

maximbella
January 14th, 2017, 02:37 PM
Hi ladies...I'm unfortunately out. AF just came. :sad:

cosmosis
January 14th, 2017, 03:02 PM
Hi ladies...I'm unfortunately out. AF just came. :sad:

are you SURE it is AF? Your temps went up today, that isn't common.

maximbella
January 14th, 2017, 03:15 PM
I know, I thought that was very strange also. My temp is still high, and looked back to all of my other charts and they shot down the morning before AF. Pretty confident, though...light flow but super bad cramps, so it has to be AF right??? I swear, this cycle has been the most emotionally exhausting one I have ever had.

cosmosis
January 14th, 2017, 03:35 PM
see if you end up pregnant this cycle cosmo i actually have changed your ovulation date in my head to CD 25 and you are 10 DPO IMO...my reasoning is there is a good spike again, your best yet, on CD 26..and only since then have you stayed consistently above 98.0 degrees. I know thats not what you want to hear but from a mom who got 2 girls with pre seed, pre seed is definitely not make or break for a boy sway.. if you are going to ovulate the truth is it can happen at ANY point within reason after CD 12 and i think some women have even ovulated earlier not that its ideal obviously..and some ovulate very late especially someone who normally has long cycles...but you are already looking at a longish cycle at this point even if thats not your norm.

Your temps look great now and have been steadily climbing.. i DO think you have ovulated this cycle so its just a matter of pinpointing it and if it resulted in conception!

Well, when I leave all the temps in and set FF to FAM, it moves my O day to CD25. It is only when I remove the temp spike on CD15 that it moves it back to CD20. I have to exclude that temp all together because I didn't sleep through the night at all and I went to bed very late on top of that. It was a bad night all around. I find it difficult to accept CD25 for the following reasons:

1) I'm hypothyroid (treated) and my temps are always very low. My Highest temp is like 98.1 and that was always on the day before temps began to drop, so 3-4 days before AF. For my temps to go above that and stay there, it had to be an implantation, otherwise they would be unstable and eventually take a nose dive and AF arrives. I added last month's chart to my page for comparison.

2)My temps have gradually gone up, which means progesterone has been slowly increasing for a while, then there was a quick dip and stabilization afterwards. If we remove the dip, it just continues to go up and stabilizes above 98. From what I have seen in most BFP charts, there is stabilization in temps after implantation, some even get flat line temps.

3)On CD20&21 I had copious amounts of EWCM, I've never seen that amount before. I had high libido to go with it, which I found totally odd since I assumed I had O'd already.Interesting to note, on CD14&15 I had no interest in sex and I always do when I O.

4)I started to get very intense orgasms after CD25, which has only ever happened when I've purposely used hCG OR have had high progesterone levels during progesterone therapy. I can't remember much from my previous pregnancy besides being super thirsty and tired.

I only have these 4 reasons (which I believe are strong), plus a couple of other "symptoms" as well as my intuition. I know people don't like to pay much attention to intuition, but I'm well in tune with myself on many levels. I'm not gonna totally dismiss the possibility of CD25 being O, but I had no signs of it whatsoever at that stage and my temps stabilized like the day after, which doesn't add up to me.

The good part is that I love a good mystery and I'm enjoying all of the theories. The bad news is that I used my last IC a couple of hours ago and BFN :D loooooool. I'll get a set of frers for Wednesday morning if I don't get AF by Tuesday.

maximbella
January 14th, 2017, 03:52 PM
Good luck, cosmo!! Keeping fingers crossed for you!!! What does setting FF to FAM do?

cosmosis
January 14th, 2017, 04:00 PM
I know, I thought that was very strange also. My temp is still high, and looked back to all of my other charts and they shot down the morning before AF. Pretty confident, though...light flow but super bad cramps, so it has to be AF right??? I swear, this cycle has been the most emotionally exhausting one I have ever had.
Some women do have what they think is AF around the same time AF shows. Keep a very detailed journal of your flow and of course, temps will confirm in the next day or so.


Good luck, cosmo!! Keeping fingers crossed for you!!! What does setting FF to FAM do?

FAM is the fertility awareness method. So it will use your temps, CM and CP to determine when you O'd Vs using your historical data and other details like the advanced setting does.

Thank you! I'm just ready for this to be over so I can either try again or make plans. I'm so mentally exhausted u_u.

maximbella
January 14th, 2017, 08:50 PM
Totally hear you cosmo! I feel the same way! And I was going to stop temping tomorrow, but I guess I'll keep going.

Sorry, going back to FAM....why would you want that over advanced??

cosmosis
January 14th, 2017, 09:15 PM
Totally hear you cosmo! I feel the same way! And I was going to stop temping tomorrow, but I guess I'll keep going.

Sorry, going back to FAM....why would you want that over advanced??

That's a good question. I prefer the advanced settings but my chart this month is whack and the ovulation pattern is not very clear and looking triphasic. Considering the fact that I'm so late in my cycle with no AF and no BFP, I'm falling back on FAM because it is a well established method. I do go back and forth though as time goes by to see how the two methods differ.

Advanced insists my O day was CD14, even if I remove the crazy thermal shift, I personally feel it was CD16, and FAM says CD20. CD14 is looking unlikely because of BFN's, although I can't completely cross it out until BFP or AF. *sigh*

Anyway, FAM is more simple while advanced settings takes into consideration not only your own data history, but others as well.

I have some pain in my cervix area or my lower uterus, I can't comfortably lay on my tummy either. I'm feeling alot of discomfort which I can't describe. It feels like when I had my IUD in there and it would poke me, or it was too cramped. It's difficult to describe.

This whole thing is bogging me down to be honest. Just want to get on with it.

Burakoam
January 14th, 2017, 10:45 PM
Cosmo did you double check to make sure the cheapies you have been using arent botched?

ETA: the alternative to all this cos is we are all wrong and your cycle is still going because you haven't ovulated yet.

Also cosmo.. about CD25.. EWCM can be there days before you O..I had it Monday and Tuesday and wednsday and didn't ovulate until Saturday. So even though you really hate the idea of it keep in mind it is a distinct possibility and would explain all the BFN's

Not dismissing your intuitions!

cosmosis
January 15th, 2017, 07:44 AM
I just want AF to show... whaaaaaaa! :tissue: Im perfectly happy inducing it myself, but I have to be sure I'm not PG, otherwise I would have already. I didn't even bother with my temps this morning. lol.

I finished the cheapies, I didn't double check if they were no bueno, how would I check them anyway? I did consider the possibility of me not Oing yet, but I find it very unlikely. I get it, for many women, their cycles change upon TTC because of all the supplements and whatnot, but I honestly didn't change much in my diet except eating every 2-3 hours. I eat the same food, take the same supps. My cycle shouldn't have been affected in this manner.

The good part is that DH and I have BD's EOD up until the CD25, then we went every 3 days for one week due to his schedule and now back to EOD. SO even if I had an egg on the CD25, I still got 2 tries in. In fact, it would be more ideal because I really upped my milk intake the last 3 weeks. I'm fine with everything *IF* I let the "3 attempts" go lol.

Even if I O'd on the 25th, shouldn't I be getting shadows by now?

Another thought, it isn't until very modern times that women are testing really early. Women used to wait for 2 missed periods, that's a loooooong time. I'm not even a week late yet. Perhaps hcg won't be present in my urine for a while longer.

ETA: Burakoam, check mt OPK thread, I have an update there :) I'd like your input <3

maximbella
January 15th, 2017, 12:25 PM
Cosmo - your chart looks triphasic to me...that's so strange! Fingers crossed for you!!!!

cosmosis
January 15th, 2017, 12:28 PM
yeah, it definitely looks triphasic to me as well at this point. Who knows!

Georgia_Peach
January 15th, 2017, 12:32 PM
Just went to fertility clinic for my first round of blood work and ultrasound. I have 8 follies on right ovary and 10 on the left. I go back in a few days to see which one(s) develop. I am feeling very positive about this cycle! Especially with the help of trigger shot if need be.
Also I'm so greatful to not have to GUESS ovulation again this cycle. I'll know exactly what day I ovulate on and when to BD!

For the other ladies swaying girl.. should DH be still taking LR and OLE if this is cycle #5 for us or should he take break?

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XXforhubby
January 16th, 2017, 11:27 AM
Ugh. I hate pretty charts! I'm really trying not to get my hopes up...it's so hard though...

Cosmosis, how are things with you?



[emoji170][emoji1379]DS1, [emoji577]DS2, & [emoji602]DS3[emoji170]
[emoji166]One Last Pink Sway[emoji166]
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My Ovulation Chart (https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

tfahn
January 16th, 2017, 11:45 AM
I finally got Crosshairs this morning!! So according to FF O day was Friday which gave me 3 solid attempts I think. I would like to see my temp go up a bit more in the next few days to really make sure I ovulated but hopeful that my body just took so long to O so it could make me a Goldie Egg.

cosmosis
January 16th, 2017, 11:50 AM
Alright my lovelies, I think I'm gonna go ahead and bow out of the January 2ww thread. Looks like I had a chemical and I'm happy with it. I feel more confident in what I'm doing now so I hope February is my month. Here's for a birthday BFP! :) God willing. <3 I will hopefully catch the BFP's from here in the due date group soon hehe.

There's something about acceptance that just really sets you free. I felt so much more at ease yesterday when I accepted that this wasn't going to work out without feeling defeated and went ahead and made plans for my next try and got my supplies. That just really set everything into motion. I find it fascinating how that works.

I did have a little cry this morning, but it was due to the frustration of not having the kind of professional help I desire and need and a bit frightened that I may have to do this a few more times. I don't wanna put on anymore weight and that terrifies me.

At least I know we can easily conceive and I do O regularly as I have known. The uncertainty of this cycle really did my head in.

tfahn
January 16th, 2017, 11:58 AM
Sorry Cosmosis but good luck in February!

maximbella
January 16th, 2017, 01:40 PM
Cosmo....I'm sorry to hear, but I'll be right there with you in Feb! Fingers crossed, and hoping that this is our coming month! Glad to hear that you're at ease with it, I feel the same way and makes me happy/confident going into this month (which I think makes all the difference!). :highfive:

MrsGoodies
January 16th, 2017, 08:36 PM
XXforhubby - your chart looks fantastic with a really nice O day (not too early, not too late)....sure seems like a Goldie Egg cycle to me! Fingers crossed!!!!


Cosmosis- very sorry about the chemical. I know what you mean about letting go...quite liberating. I may be joining you in Feb or March if AF ever shows up after this mc!

foxtrotmama
January 17th, 2017, 12:47 AM
Robin, my husband took cycle #4 (Dec) off from supplements.

Still waiting to O. :/ with no attempt last month because of DH's injury I really feel impatient.

Burakoam
January 17th, 2017, 01:03 AM
That is a Pretty chart with a really nice pink attempt that you didn't even realize you were doing at the time XX!!! Ugh I am just as impatient as you for you to test.. hopefully this week goes fast!

cosmosis
January 17th, 2017, 06:14 AM
XX, I'm excited for you!! <3

tfahn
January 17th, 2017, 11:19 AM
Charts looking great XX, fingers crossed for you.

XXforhubby
January 17th, 2017, 08:14 PM
OMG! I have no idea what possessed me to do this, but I tested anyway. I used a Wondfo IC and there is a faint line!!! It's like 6:00pm and I've peed I don't know how many times! I'll test again in the morning with FMU to confirm.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170118/86afeb124ec114be5633e66df7f319ac.jpg



[emoji170][emoji1379]DS1, [emoji577]DS2, & [emoji602]DS3[emoji170]
[emoji166]One Last Pink Sway[emoji166]
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My Ovulation Chart (https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

XXforhubby
January 17th, 2017, 08:15 PM
I've used these before, and they have been STARK white.

I'm in shock. I don't know if I believe it.



[emoji170][emoji1379]DS1, [emoji577]DS2, & [emoji602]DS3[emoji170]
[emoji166]One Last Pink Sway[emoji166]
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My Ovulation Chart (https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

cosmosis
January 17th, 2017, 08:19 PM
aaaaaaaaaaaaah!!! this is so awesome! I really hope this gets darker for you, XX! <3

Georgia_Peach
January 17th, 2017, 08:20 PM
OMG! I have no idea what possessed me to do this, but I tested anyway. I used a Wondfo IC and there is a faint line!!! It's like 6:00pm and I've peed I don't know how many times! I'll test again in the morning with FMU to confirm.

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170118/86afeb124ec114be5633e66df7f319ac.jpg



[emoji170][emoji1379]DS1, [emoji577]DS2, & [emoji602]DS3[emoji170]
[emoji166]One Last Pink Sway[emoji166]
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920/thumb.png
My Ovulation Chart (https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)
Awee so happy for you XX! Congratulations!!!!

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XXforhubby
January 17th, 2017, 08:22 PM
OMG! There is a faint line on a curved FRER! I can't believe this!! You can totally see it in person!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170118/32f4a9499739ea33b2057fbdf92fe306.jpg

What the F$&@k!!!!




[emoji170][emoji1379]DS1, [emoji577]DS2, & [emoji602]DS3[emoji170]
[emoji166]One Last Pink Sway[emoji166]
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920/thumb.png
My Ovulation Chart (https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

Georgia_Peach
January 17th, 2017, 08:25 PM
OMG! There is a faint line on a curved FRER! I can't believe this!! You can totally see it in person!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170118/32f4a9499739ea33b2057fbdf92fe306.jpg

What the F$&@k!!!!




[emoji170][emoji1379]DS1, [emoji577]DS2, & [emoji602]DS3[emoji170]
[emoji166]One Last Pink Sway[emoji166]
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920/thumb.png
My Ovulation Chart (https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)
I can see it for sure!!!! Omg!!

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maximbella
January 17th, 2017, 08:49 PM
XX - HUGE congrats! I can see it on both, so happy for you!!

I just looked at your chart and noticed that you have 2 opk testing (if I'm reading it correctly?) methods. Did you only use the CB Advanced Digi on CD 14? Did it give you a peak reading automatically?

XXforhubby
January 17th, 2017, 09:04 PM
Thank you! I had a flashing smiley for two days prior, a positive on a Wondfo the day before and the the day of a solid smiley. It was the first time I used them.



[emoji170][emoji1379]DS1, [emoji577]DS2, & [emoji602]DS3[emoji170]
[emoji166]One Last Pink Sway[emoji166]
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920/thumb.png
My Ovulation Chart (https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

XXforhubby
January 17th, 2017, 09:05 PM
I'm still in shock and will probably be in denial until I test with FMU.

FX we see some more BFPs and this little bean sticks!!! And hopefully pink!!



[emoji170][emoji1379]DS1, [emoji577]DS2, & [emoji602]DS3[emoji170]
[emoji166]One Last Pink Sway[emoji166]
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920/thumb.png
My Ovulation Chart (https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

Georgia_Peach
January 17th, 2017, 09:11 PM
What dpo are you?! I can't read your chart bc it's blurry.

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Burakoam
January 17th, 2017, 09:12 PM
THAT IS REAL XX! ITS REAL! AHHHHHHH!!! this HAS to be your girl that you and hubby have seen in your dreams, it just has to :)

im literally jumping up and down and tearing up for you. Im so happy. congratulations xx!!!!

Robin- her chart says she is 10 DPO :)

XXforhubby
January 17th, 2017, 09:14 PM
What dpo are you?! I can't read your chart bc it's blurry.

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I'm either 10 or 11dpo, depending on when I could have ovulated.



[emoji170][emoji1379]DS1, [emoji577]DS2, & [emoji602]DS3[emoji170]
[emoji166]One Last Pink Sway[emoji166]
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920/thumb.png
My Ovulation Chart (https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

MiaMelb
January 17th, 2017, 09:44 PM
OMG! There is a faint line on a curved FRER! I can't believe this!! You can totally see it in person!

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170118/32f4a9499739ea33b2057fbdf92fe306.jpg

What the F$&@k!!!!




[emoji170][emoji1379]DS1, [emoji577]DS2, & [emoji602]DS3[emoji170]
[emoji166]One Last Pink Sway[emoji166]
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920/thumb.png
My Ovulation Chart (https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

Congratulations XX that's wonderful news to start the new year with. Fx it's sticky and sending you pink dust :cheer:

maximbella
January 17th, 2017, 09:47 PM
So, so excited for you!!! :heart:

Inforthree
January 17th, 2017, 11:05 PM
OMG congrats XX!! I'm so happy for you! I have been following you on here since you were pregnant with DS3 so it is awesome we'll be in a DD group together! 😊 Congrats!!! Hope this a sticky pink bean!

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XXforhubby
January 17th, 2017, 11:14 PM
Thanks! I am still skeptical. I'll feel better tomorrow when I can test with FMU. I still can't believe I got a positive! It was only like a 1hour hold tops after dinner! I saw a faint line after 3-5min and could definitely see it by 7-8min. Crazy!

Ugh. Now the hoping and praying everything turns out ok starts. I hate the 2WW and early pregnancy!

I have no real symptoms, which is weird for me. This has never happened before. If I am hard pressed to come up with something, I've had a stuffy nose for the past 3 days (but the weather is warming up and this is typical for me), I am a more thirsty, and I am sort of a space cadet (forgetting things but not near as bad as with DS3). The only thing that really stands out to me, is I am more emotional. I'm a tough cookie and can be on the aggressive side. My DH and I got into a disagreement last night, and I totally started crying! No one ever hurts my feelings, EVER! I don't allow it. I let it roll off and go right back to them. People can be jerks and it's not my problem- it's theirs. So looking back, letting him hurt my feelings is definitely the only real symptom I've had that can't be explained away.



[emoji170][emoji1379]DS1, [emoji577]DS2, & [emoji602]DS3[emoji170]
[emoji166]One Last Pink Sway[emoji166]
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920/thumb.png
My Ovulation Chart (https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

GirlieCat
January 18th, 2017, 01:18 AM
OMG XX!!!!!! This is awesome! I am so happy for you. I am going to be thread sticking for your test in the morning, but I see the line on both tests you already took. Ahhhhh this is so exciting.

Pbn3
January 18th, 2017, 03:17 AM
Omg!!!! Xxforhubby the biggest congratulations to you!!! 💕🎉🎉 makes my heart so happy to see this!! Stick baby!! Stick!! Sending you sticky pink dust and again, huge congrats!!!! *dancing a jig (woohoo!!!)

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Kelbear
January 18th, 2017, 05:29 AM
Congratulations xx, that is an amazing way to start the year. So very happy for you. Praying this is your sticky pink bean :cheer::cheer::cheer:

TaytumJ
January 18th, 2017, 07:42 AM
I'm so happy I'm crying XX!!!! I've been stalking and wanted so badly to comment on what a beautiful chart you have but didn't want to jinx it. Oh pink sticky bean, this must be you!!![emoji178][emoji178]

cosmosis
January 18th, 2017, 07:53 AM
Waiting for FMU update :D

Magical22
January 18th, 2017, 08:28 AM
Omg xx total thread crashing to congratulate you, yay!!! Will be stalking you for your next test [emoji179][emoji846]


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XXforhubby
January 18th, 2017, 09:55 AM
This morning's test with FMU:

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170118/9d3893beff1030b977096488168254f8.jpg.

I guess I can believe it now!



[emoji170][emoji1379]DS1, [emoji577]DS2, & [emoji602]DS3[emoji170]
[emoji166]One Last Pink Sway[emoji166]
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920/thumb.png
My Ovulation Chart (https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)

maximbella
January 18th, 2017, 10:01 AM
XX - SO excited for you, congrats! And pink dust!!! How old are your DS's?

XXforhubby
January 18th, 2017, 10:02 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170118/360517344d1274c2e1ce82fe8e2d2040.jpg

It is for real!



[emoji170][emoji1379]DS1, [emoji577]DS2, & [emoji602]DS3[emoji170]
[emoji166]One Last Pink Sway[emoji166]
https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920/thumb.png
My Ovulation Chart (https://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/579920)