Trying again after losing my girl...looking for advice

[Marileigh]

Hi ladies! I'm new here and wanted to introduce myself and try to get a plan for my sway (which I've *sort of* already started).

I am a 33 year old momma to four precious boys. We were surprised last spring with the exciting news that we would finally be welcoming a sweet baby girl to complete our family! However, around 15 weeks we discovered that she had Turner's syndrome (only one x chromosome) and she was born sleeping a few weeks later. As we were not trying to get pregnant last time (we were using condoms, but didn't put one on until the end), I really am not sure what we did as far as swaying, but there were a few things around that time that were a little different. Looking at girl sway info now, it looks like several of these helped me get a girl, but, again, I was just trying to regain my health.

*I had been very sick for several months before we conceived and had lost several pounds (normal weight is 115, I was down around 107-110)
*I was taking vitex to balance hormones, but had stopped about a month before we conceived
*I was on compounded progesterone cream
*I can't really remember my diet exactly, although I did candida diet off and on. I was eating two eggs and a slice of ezekiel bread every morning for breakfast, with green naked juice. I do remember that much :-)
*Yoga most days and also teaching ballet one day a week

So, here's the story now...I just came off estrogen therapy, as mine plummeted after my loss and now my periods are crazy all over the place! I have just recently started taking vitex again in an attempt to get everything back in balance. I also take b-complex vitamins, magnesium, vitamin c, vitamin d3 (5,000iu), folate, and probiotics. Cutting the vitamins and minerals kind of scares me as I had to work so hard to regain my health and have really just recently started feeling back to "normal". But if it's just for a short time then I'm willing to try if it's extremely important.

Within the past week I've tried to start a semi-diet as best as I've been able to piece one together. I've been holding off on breakfast until around 11. I usually have a smoothie with spinach, avacado, goat milk kefir, carrots, banana, and frozen berries. I'm thinking these things sway blue though, correct? I've also been eating some kid cereal (totally unhealthy) with organic skim milk around that time or maybe a couple of hours later for lunch. Then I try not to eat again until dinner time and I've had baked chicken, white rice, and steamed broccoli. I drink lots of water and have also been drinking a couple of glasses of cranberry juice every day. I also sometimes have fat free, sugar free greek yogurt with strawberries for desert. I'd love some ideas of variation for meals since I'm just getting started and don't really want to eat these same things Every. Single. Day!

I'm trying to ride my bike and do yoga at least every other day (although it's extremely cold right now).

Hubby is drinking cranberry juice and taking magnesium. He runs and bikes a lot but I told him absolutely NO lifting weights!! He also wears boxer briefs.

So...how does my diet look so far? What about the supplements? I'm thinking my smoothie may have to go :( I have spoken with my OB and he knows our plans and is willing to put me back on progesterone if need be. Thoughts about this? Also, can someone give me some timing info for dummies? I know it's not as important as diet, but I'd like to do everything I can! Any other tips or insight would be soooooo much appreciated! Thanks a bunch!

[4blue2pink]

im so sorry for your loss Marileigh i also have 4 boys and lost my first girl (second child) midway through my pregnancy, we never found a reason.. after her i then had 3 more boys in a row!! since having my 4 boys i have gone on to have 2 healthy girls so dont ever give up hope :)

im not the best person to advise on your sway so i'll leave that to Atomic and others who know much more than i do!! the main things are LE diet, one attempt in fertile window, exercise, coffee and alcohol if you can..

there are a few of us on here who have lost a girl/s and are swaying pink so you arent alone!!

ive got a thread going at the moment that has a few mums who have lost girls on it, its just a general swaying thread but turns out lots of us are swaying pink after a girl loss, i will link it for you (if im allowed too?) so if you want to come and say hi on there you are very welcome :) if you feel it would help to talk to others in the same boat so to speak.. as i said there are a surprising number of us on here swaying pink in 2017 after losing a girl, best of luck with your sway my fingers are crossed for you!! xx

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/57517-ttc-thread-swaying-again-2017-a.html

thats the link to the thread (i hope im allowed to post the link? i apologise if im not!!)

[Marileigh]

Thank you so much 4blue2pink!!! I will definitely check this thread out!

[Chessika]

I am sorry for your loss. Good luck for your sway!

[Marileigh]

Thank you so much!

[atomic sagebrush]

Oh gosh I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. This is a tiny bit long and I would prefer to go over it when I have the time to give you your due answer so could you please bump this for me?? I'd do anything to help but just right in the midst of making dinner tonight. :heart:

[Marileigh]

Oh gosh I'm so sorry to hear of your loss. This is a tiny bit long and I would prefer to go over it when I have the time to give you your due answer so could you please bump this for me?? I'd do anything to help but just right in the midst of making dinner tonight. :heart:

Bump

[Marileigh]

Should also add DH will be 37 in February.

[Marileigh]

Bumping again. I think I've pretty much figured out the diet, but would still like some feedback regarding supplements, timing, and frequency. Can anyone help please?

[The Anchor]

I'm so sorry for your loss Marileigh. Heartbreaking.

You should be following the LE diet to sway pink. I'm attaching a link to the Complete Index, scroll down to LE Diet. There's a bunch of other info here too.

http://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/3305-complete-index.html

Losing weight prior to conception is good for a pink sway :wink:. However the supplements will more likely sway blue. And vitex can really mess your cycles up, but if you really want to include it, only take it from AF to O. For exercise, 60 minutes of cardio, every day if possible.

GL!

[atomic sagebrush]

I am so sorry for your loss, Marileigh, and also thank you very much for your patience.

I think you need to come off the vitex. Vitex messes with the way your body uses estrogen (we're not really sure how, exactly, but it does) and I think it's really, really risky for you to come off estrogen therapy and go onto vitex. It will only make it take LONGER for your cycles to go back to normal again.

If you need the supps for your health, then you should of course continue. You might want to compromise and cut back to 3x a week, or not. Totally up to you. People have still gotten girls while taking them.

It is probably fine to continue your smoothie. While we originally thought that nutrients in all forms could possibly sway blue, we have subsequently learned that as long as you stay in dietary limits, those type of things really don't matter that much. It is hard for me to sign off on your diet without knowing how many calories, grams of protein and fat you are consuming per day. You should be at 1500-1800 cals minimum (and possibly up to 1800-2000 if weight flies off you) 40-50 g protein even up to 50-60 for some, and 50-60 g fat (I want you at the max level of fat so you have enough raw material to make estrogen with). I want you on full fat dairy and NOT skim because it will help with the estrogen. I also want you back to eating the eggs and Ezekiel bread at least 2-3 days a week as the cholesterol in the eggs can help you make estrogen too and the fiber in the EZ bread may help. I do NOT want you taking the fiber that some others take.

I seriously doubt you are getting anythign approaching that level of fat intake with what you were eating. We need to address that and then your body will fix the imbalance with your hormones itself without any herbs.

Low carb veg are free and unlimited, higher carb veg and fruit you count only calories and not protein or fat. This means you may have to eat even more to hit your limits.

I would ditch the cranberry juice as it's not concentrated enough to sway, our results have found even the cran supps are useless for swaying, and also you're just adding more nutrients that may sway blue. Keep the smoothie if you like, though.

Do what you can in terms of exercise. at least 4 days a week, 60 min a day if you can.

Cran juice also useless for hubby. The jogging and biking will only help for him.

If you want timing, it's going to be tough with your cycle that way. Your best bet is to do one of two things - firstly you could get a fertility monitor and try BD when you get your second "high" reading (but be aware it may go right to peak, and also you may get many days of high before you ovulate) OR you BD once when you get a "peak" reading (or do OPK and BD at positive), or you could just BD unprotected every 4 days starting after AF and going through till when you're certain you have ovulated. If you are thinking "well those last two aren't really timing", you're quite correct, but they are methods that we have used on here for a while pretty successfully. Most of us have 2-3-4 or more timing opposites and over the course of time we have learned that it's probably number of attempts that sways and NOT the day you have sex on. (we don't know why). those other two methods are just easy ways to be in with one attempt without having to stress that much about timing, and with better chances of conception than the cutoff methods. :)

why were you on the progesterone??