Due June/July/August 2017 (2)

[MrsSparkles]

Hope everyone is doing well <3

[GirlieCat]

Hello All- so I did my 1hr glucose test this week and I didn't pass. Boo. I am so upset. They said my number needed to be 135 or less and I was at 140 so I am not really concerned that I actually have gestational diabetes, but now I have to go back and do the 3 hour test. I know it is best to know for sure and just be safe, but I am not looking forward to sitting in the lab for 3 1/2 hours. Ugh. I also failed my iron test so now they are putting me on a prescription supplement.

14 weeks...just 14 more weeks I keep telling myself. I scheduled a free private ultrasound at another ultrasound tech school near me for Sunday so hopefully seeing baby girl will help me feel good.

Overall I am doing great physically. I have lots of energy and I have discovered the hands down best thing about pregnancy.......maternity jeans. I LOVE THEM. Why do we even make regular jeans with buttons? I want to wear these forever. I spent $40 (37 euros) and bought a bag of used maternity clothes from someone online and I got 8 pants and 14 shirts so I think I am set for the rest of pregnancy and very happy I didn't spend much. I haven't worn any of the shirts yet because I still fit nicely in my regular tops.

My mom is bugging me to start making decisions on what I want for my baby shower, but I am just not ready yet although I think we set the date for when I am about 33-34 weeks. Have also scheduled all my hospital tour, breast feed, birthing and childhood classes so we are on our way to getting things in order. It definitely feels like second trimester is dragging on and on and on and this is taking forever, but I am sure once she is here I will look back and think it went fast (don't think that now though).

Hope everyone is doing good. Anyone else finding out gender soon?

[Mummyof4boys]

How many weeks are you GirlieCat? I failed one of mine years ago by a hair and had to sit the longer one which was a pain in the bum, but passed. Mines on Monday, yay :/ so boring! My 3D scan is booked for Tuesday. So excited! :D

[MrsSparkles]

Hey GirlieCat,

Sorry you didn't pass the test, I have mine next week and am hoping for a pass.
Hope you get the 3 hour one done and dusted, and don't have to fret about it anymore.

Awesome news on the maternity clothes - way to grab a bargain !

We're really excited for this lil man to arrive, newborn photos are booked, going to tell my family tomorrow by phone.
I don't want to but my Mum has given me until Monday to do it or she will. Not thrilled about people knowing my business, I am such a private person.
We've not decided when to tell friends....although our 3 friends in California now know, and we are planning a trip to see them with the mini man :)
We need to get a passport expedited, as my husband is working abroad when baby is 8 weeks old, and wants us to go with.
Not looking forward to spending a day with a newborn at the passport office (Think DMV lines hahahha).

Feeling pretty content.

[Throwaway_panther]

Has anyone heard from or touched base with bre lately? Was thinking about her.

[Mummyof4boys]

3D ultrasound in 40 mins! So excited!! :D Hopefully hubby can make this one as he's missed out on all the other kids US from having to work or mind the kids..

[Mummyof4boys]

Baby was being very modest and wouldn't open the legs lol. I was really hoping I could get a good shot to prove to hubby. Ahh well I guess he'll have to wait 12 weeks to see for himself lol. The tech said she didn't see any dangly bits haha! We got some good shots of bubs face and feet though, but despite me eating cookies and a cold drink beforehand, was sound asleep with face smooshed against my uterus the whole scan lol.

[MrsSparkles]

Baby was being very modest and wouldn't open the legs lol. I was really hoping I could get a good shot to prove to hubby. Ahh well I guess he'll have to wait 12 weeks to see for himself lol. The tech said she didn't see any dangly bits haha! We got some good shots of bubs face and feet though, but despite me eating cookies and a cold drink beforehand, was sound asleep with face smooshed against my uterus the whole scan lol.

Awww how lovely !
Have you got any piccies to share ?
Great that your hubbie was able to make it

[GirlieCat]

Agree with Sparkles- would love to see a pic Mummyof4boys. I have my 3D is about 3-4 week and I wonder how clear those pics show facial features.

Throwaway- I think of Bre all the time but I haven't seen her post anything in a long time. Last post was about the baby might have trisomy and we never hear anything since. We have had a lot of people drop off and not be heard from again in this due date group. :-(

[Mummyof4boys]

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[Mummyof4boys]

These are photos of the prints they gave me. The cd isn't working because it's not compatible with my Apple computer grrr. Have to wait til hubby home so I can try with Windows

*28 weeks*

[Mummyof4boys]

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[Cnburke]

So sorry to hear your sway didn't work, I hope you are doing ok. I didn't realise how hard it would be finding out my sway failed and just how upset I would feel until it happened to me so sending big hugs and hope you can get over any disappointment and enjoy the rest of your pregnancy. I hope one day you can have your little boy if you do decide to try for no. 4 but if not I hope you can find happiness with your three girls.

I'm actually doing a lot better this time than I did the second time ! It's strange but I'm glad I don't have the severe GD like I had then . I am ready to meet this little lady and maybe MAYBE one day we will have a son ! Lol
Prayers for you to overcome GD .. I know all too well how depressing it can be !


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[Cnburke]

Gabriel is beautiful name !

Ivan is hilarious, he is the tyrant - you know the naughty children that secretly make you laugh at how mischievous they are!

Atomic - I know you are very vocal about the fact that if you can do PGD do it.
We really thought (when I was in bits about my failed sway) that we would ONLY do PGD next time.
Now...I am actually not as invested in boy or girl, I think for me this failed sway has brought me peace, and turned me from a real control freak into a ....slightly less control freaky person.
If I had gotten my girl, I don't think I would be having such a relaxed and amazing pregnancy.
I would be planning the minutia of everything.
So I can honestly thank this site for that.

That is perfectly said and how I feel also! Although I'm still not counting PGD out completely hahaha


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[Cnburke]

Guys, I say it at least once a day that if you can do PGD and have a reasonable chance of success with it, you should do PGD.

I have never, ever, ever said anywhere even once that swaying is a guarantee of gender and I think I'm pretty vocal about it as a matter of fact.

As long as swaying comes in consistently better than 50-50 (which it has for both pink and blue, every year for 6 years, even though I include sways that were less than ideal)

My heartfelt goal is for everyone to get their desired gender. But if swaying could EVER be a guarantee the entire human race would have died out a long time ago, the first time there was an extended famine only girls would be born. It just isn't 100%, I've never promised that to anyone and never will.

My comment wasn't an attack on you at all and I'm very sorry if you took it that way . You were very helpful when I needed advice :) I think this site is very interesting and I learned a lot but I just personally believe that without controlled studies , doctors , and labs .. we can only consider this site as fun . I would highly recommend PGD to anyone who's serious about wanting to select gender .



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[Cnburke]

[QUOTE=Cnburke;890288]Hey ladies ! Updating to say that I am indeed having a girl . Sneek peak was right ! So you can mark me down as swayed boy - having girl .
Seems we have quite a few failed sways .
After all I did to sway , I'm starting to question swaying in general .. if we decide to have another baby after this we will do PGD . All depends on if we coan afford it or not at that time and if we want to have 4 children ! Lol


Cnburke it's like you are in my brain! I do question swaying now as well but I still don't have any true anger towards the process because it forced me into great shape. However I do get upset about the fact that I thought I had control over what's an uncontrollable situation. I almost wish I had read more failed sway posts with the hopes that people would've said--if you truly want a specific gender go PGD and do not risk swaying. I saw some like that but not enough. However I have only myself to blame.

If we ever decide a 4th...I'm only doing PGD. Apparently there's a doctor here who has success with spinning and I won't even risk that. But I would have to weigh if the expense of another child is worth it and more importantly if I want a 4th child. 3 sounds so good to me while 4 is undoubtedly overwhelming.

I deal with disappointment on a daily basis so right now I'm just hoping I'll get over it mostly but the time #3 is born. I doubt I'll get over it completely. And I hope you are doing ok. I know how crushing this can be.

I am actually doing ok ! This time is a lot easier than the last . And once I had my second daughter I fell instantly in love and we are very close . I think knowing how silly I was to be so disappointed the last time helped me through this time . But I totally understand how uncontrollable the feeling can be and hope it doesn't last too long for you! I have no anger towards the process either .. can't hurt to try ! Especially if you don't want to spend 20k ! Lol but that is all I am willing to do as well if we decide on a 4th. Honestly the money isn't even as much a factor for me as just having 4 children is ! Haha . I will have to see how I balance life with 3 first ! Message me anytime if you wanna talk :) seems we are in the same boats in a lot of areas ! Lol


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[Dreamsister]

Hello. How is everyone doing so far? Finally I have entered my third trimester (week 28) and counting the days until my due date. This pregnancy has been far more exhausting. Maybe it is because of my advanced maternal age (I am 42 years old) and has gotten 7 years older since I had my last son, or maybe it is because I am carrying a girl this time. I heard that with girls you feel more worn out, like rotten tomatoes, tired and queasy as opposed to when carrying boys you feel more sexy and energetic. I have gained 17 kilo (37 lb) which is also far more than with my previpous boys pregnancies. But I also let my self eat cake almost everyday. Baby is kicking and moving a lot both day and night, which makes me happy because then I know she is for sure a live. I hope everyone is doing great and having more energy than I have :-)

[GirlieCat]

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So cute!!!

[Kelbear]

Anatomy scan tomorrow. I know I should be over the moon about seeing my little one again but still struggling as I know tomorrow will be the day we find out for sure that it's a boy (I have been trying to convince myself that he is 100% boy but I am still holding on to a glimmer of hope). I have been feeling him move for weeks now and that helps a little but I can't get past the guilt of being sad that I won't get my chance to have a little girl. I feel like such a terrible person. Hopefully when I see him again tomorrow that will help. I still feel like a failure as it seems almost everyone else is getting their DG and I am surrounded by pigeon pairs at the moment at work and with family and friends without any of them even trying and it just seems so unfair. Sorry to have a whinge, just having a bad day but I am still so grateful to be pregnant and will be very relieved when I hear if my little man is healthy.

[Butterflies buttercups]

Hi just thread crashing here - Kel I have looked at your sway and it's fantastic wayyyy better than mine (I'm yet to find out but prob boy #3) it looks like u tried ur very best with diet exercise and attempting - I know u haven't found out officially yet what you're having but there's still a chance it could be a girl? I've seen so many nubs guessed wrong on here so don't give up hope just yet - I know I will feel exactly the same way u do I already feel like myself way failed and dreading the result of it and telling ppl and accepting it but I just wanted to say I thought what u did was great and I hope ur baby is happy & healthy tommorow &a good luck !


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[Kelbear]

Hi just thread crashing here - Kel I have looked at your sway and it's fantastic wayyyy better than mine (I'm yet to find out but prob boy #3) it looks like u tried ur very best with diet exercise and attempting - I know u haven't found out officially yet what you're having but there's still a chance it could be a girl? I've seen so many nubs guessed wrong on here so don't give up hope just yet - I know I will feel exactly the same way u do I already feel like myself way failed and dreading the result of it and telling ppl and accepting it but I just wanted to say I thought what u did was great and I hope ur baby is happy & healthy tommorow &a good luck !


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Thank you BB for your kind words, I know I did the best I could be I still think about what I should have done better with my sway every day. Unfortunately I am pretty much 100% sure bub is another boy as there is no mistaking his boy nub. I know I will love him so much when I finally get to meet him and he and his brother will likely be best mates, it is just a struggle until then especially as most family and friends are saying they think this bub will be a girl or they hope we have a girl this time and I just can't face telling anyone.

[Butterflies buttercups]

Yes u will love him as much when he's here - I did my son honestly it did take a while it wasn't as instant as my first ds ( but then I always think your first is just so precious !!) but u will and your boys will be the best of friends I love it now I have two boys it's so lovely that they will always have eachother u will love watching their bond grow and them playing together it's wonderful ... I also hope u can find happiness with out your girl over time
Good luck :)
Xxx


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[Kelbear]

Anatomy scan showed he's all boy (knew within few mins of start of scan, didn't need confirmation) but I love him to bits. Helped to see him again. It still hurts to face the reality that there is now no chance of having my DD but I have to tell myself that it was meant to be this way 3558435585

[GirlieCat]

Kelbear, I know it won't change your disappointment and that only time will help, but he is a cute little thing. Great pictures. I hope you find comfort.

[Dreamsister]

Congrats with your little man, Kelbear. He is beautyful.


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[XXforhubby]

What a precious boy, Kelbear [emoji4]!

Sorry you didn't hear girl [emoji20]. Give yourself some time. Once you meet him, I'm hoping he will melt your heart and help you heal [emoji8]!

(((Huge Hugs)))



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[Mummyof4boys]

Sorry you didn't get your little girl Kelbear , but what an adorable little man you have there! <3

[Mummyof4boys]

Has anyone experienced itchy nipples? I have never with the other pregnancies until now! Driving me crazy!!! I did notice the left one is producing colostrum now so maybe related?

[GirlieCat]

No itchy nipples here. Should I be expecting to "leak" before birth? I haven't bought any breast pads yet.

I am officially in the third trimester now!!! This pregnancy thing feels like it takes forever and I am impatient. I am no where near ready for her in terms of having things or plans ready, but I also can't image 12 more weeks of this. Bump is getting big and I can't wrap my head around how it can get bigger. I also have shifted my diet because my 2nd glucose test still came back borderline for diabetes and new diet takes more thought and planning. My brain also has trouble with the number that greets me on the scale each morning- I am so afraid to gain too much. Also my husband is being a jerk, I think he is stressed and scared.

Just venting sorry. I am hoping she comes a week or two early (but healthy) because I can't even image her going past her due date (like woman have told me to expect with my first).

[Dreamsister]

No itchy nipples here neither, but my breasts have been tender since beginning of this pregnancy. And they have grown to doble size!
Like you GirlieC I also think this takes forever. I am week 29 now so also in my third trimester [emoji120][emoji4]. Nausea has returned and I feel like a whale. I gained 17 kilo! My DH is also not so nice at the moment. He feels guilt because he dosen't feel the same exitement as I do and is stressing and worrying about how we can handle a fourth child workwise, moneywise and as a family. He think life right now is more than enough work. I hope his worries disapear the moment he hold his daughter.


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[Mummyof4boys]

GirlieCat, you shouldn't leak enough colostrum to where it would go through your bra, so nothing to worry about lol. I haven't heard that about going over with your first...I had the opposite! Lol Had DS1 at 36+2 weeks, DS2 at 38w, DS3 at 39+6w and DS4 at 40+6 weeks ugh! Really really hoping I don't go over with this one..this pregnancy has seriously sucked the whole time!

29+2 now. Had midwives appt yesterday. Bub growing nicely, heart rate good. Glucose test and bloodwork normal. Thank goodness. Will be so glad when she's finally here and I don't feel like sh*t anymore

[Dreamsister]

What is it with these girl pregancies? Maybe there is some truth about feeling like shit when carrying girls. I heard this from many. Could it be the massive amount of girl hormones in your body?


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[MrsSparkles]

Mummyof4boys & Kelbear - Such awesome pictures !
Thank you for sharing them with us.

Girliecat - Not leaking yet, although sometimes I wake up with a little bit of 'crust' on my nipples (That sounds so gross!) which I googled and they said it is colosturm.

All my family know now, my Grandpa cried and told me my Nana had sent the baby down from heaven (which made me cry too).

We went to see the consultant to have a growth scan - 28 weeks and buba is 2.1lbs which I think is good.
Consultant thinks I need constant monitoring as she suspects baby will get into distress at home birth ....she thinks I may develop placental insufficiency because of medication.
Hearing that my idea of the perfect birth, could result in a tragedy is really overwhelming.

[Kelbear]

Try not to worry too much about the birth MrsSparkles, hopefully all will go as you hope.
I had borderline results with my gestational diabetes test with my first pregnancy and had to change my diet so I understand how challenging that can be girliecat, I found it got easier as I got used to it so I hope you find the same. I also found that if I did have a treat or more in one meal than I should have that a 20 min walk helped keep my blood sugar levels within range. With a change in diet and a small amount of walking (20-30 mins once or twice a day) I was able to keep everything in range and Bub was not adversely affected and was a good weight and had no blood sugar issues at birth. I hope it gets easier for you and you don't stress about it too much. You might also find that you put on less weight/gain slower with your changed diet as I put on 8 kg in first 2 trimesters then only 3 1/2 kg in the last trimester once I had to change my diet. Try not to stress about it too much.

[MrsSparkles]

Thanks Kelbear, I'll try not to worry.

How is everyone doing on shopping ?
We have the pram, crib, and I think enough clothes for newborn age, still adding to the 0-3 month pile.
My Dad is in the USA next week, so he's going to Carters, and Target for me.....I know most Americans will probably think ewwwww. But seriously I LOVE Target, it's a novelty for me :blue cheer:
Anyone have any recommendations for cute baby clothes (in the USA), so I can get him to stop by there.

[GirlieCat]

Kelbear, I totally agree that the new diet will help with weight control because I literally feel like I am on a weight loss diet with the way I am eating more protein and less sugars. Also switched to brown rice, wheat pasta and whole grain breads. I am getting used to it, but I do miss my morning kids cereal...which doc said to cut down to just once or twice a week instead of daily. I am very weight conscious but I am actually under the normal weight gain because of it. I am 28 weeks and have only gained 11 pounds (5 kg) so the new food recommendations are really only about controlling sugars and not weight.

[GirlieCat]

Thanks Kelbear, I'll try not to worry.

How is everyone doing on shopping ?
We have the pram, crib, and I think enough clothes for newborn age, still adding to the 0-3 month pile.
My Dad is in the USA next week, so he's going to Carters, and Target for me.....I know most Americans will probably think ewwwww. But seriously I LOVE Target, it's a novelty for me :blue cheer:
Anyone have any recommendations for cute baby clothes (in the USA), so I can get him to stop by there.

Sparkles, you made me laugh because I live about 4 minutes from Target and almost never shop there, but I did do my baby registry there since others shop there and they have a good baby section. If you like Carter's brand, I would skip going to a carters store and instead go to a store called Kohl's who carries carter brand but cheaper. Avoid Babies R us- they are way over priced compared to Target and Kohl's. I personally like Walmart for baby clothes but that is largely a cost thing.

We bought a crib yesterday from someone selling a new one they never used. I got it 50% off the retail price. That is all I have bought. My mom and sis have bought her lots of clothes, but I haven't personally bought anything. Hoping to find a dresser for her room soon, then we will paint and slowly start putting the nursery together. We are a long way from being ready but that has to do with waiting for baby shower in May to see if I get the important items.

[MrsSparkles]

Sparkles, you made me laugh because I live about 4 minutes from Target and almost never shop there, but I did do my baby registry there since others shop there and they have a good baby section. If you like Carter's brand, I would skip going to a carters store and instead go to a store called Kohl's who carries carter brand but cheaper. Avoid Babies R us- they are way over priced compared to Target and Kohl's. I personally like Walmart for baby clothes but that is largely a cost thing.

We bought a crib yesterday from someone selling a new one they never used. I got it 50% off the retail price. That is all I have bought. My mom and sis have bought her lots of clothes, but I haven't personally bought anything. Hoping to find a dresser for her room soon, then we will paint and slowly start putting the nursery together. We are a long way from being ready but that has to do with waiting for baby shower in May to see if I get the important items.

Thanks for the tips, I am going to check out Kohls and Walmart websites after I post.

I bought a crib used too...well it was pretty immaculate. Their baby had grown out of it really quick, so I got a brand new mattress to fit it.
All up for bargains :D There's no point spending a ton of money on things that are going to be used for only a year or less.

[Mummyof4boys]

I've bought almost nothing for the baby because my mum has spent so much on clothes and baby gear - all pink and mostly with cats all over them LOL! she's a crazy cat lady and determined to brainwash my kids haha. I think the only thing left to get is a new car capsule and maybe a Moses basket. Although, if she's anything like her brothers, she will be a crappy sleeper and I'll just end up mostly babywearing. Got a nice stash of baby carriers ready lol

[MrsSparkles]

I've bought almost nothing for the baby because my mum has spent so much on clothes and baby gear - all pink and mostly with cats all over them LOL! she's a crazy cat lady and determined to brainwash my kids haha. I think the only thing left to get is a new car capsule and maybe a Moses basket. Although, if she's anything like her brothers, she will be a crappy sleeper and I'll just end up mostly babywearing. Got a nice stash of baby carriers ready lol

That's so kind of your Mum, make the most of her generosity I say ;)
Must be so exciting being able to get all the pink stuff after 4 boys :D

[Mummyof4boys]

That's so kind of your Mum, make the most of her generosity I say ;)
Must be so exciting being able to get all the pink stuff after 4 boys :D

Mum has gone overboard with everything which has saved us a lot of money! I haven't come to terms with having a girl after 4 boys..I'm not letting myself get excited because I know US techs do make mistakes. I think a lot of this doubt is because of hubby. Whenever I show him something girly that I've bought he'll say "Well lets hope it's a girl then" or some other insensitive comment...makes me want to cry every time :( He still isn't convinced because that stupid stupid Intelligender pee test said boy. I still refer to baby as "it". I was hoping so badly that they'd be able to show him on the 3d US that is was definitely a girl so he could see for himself, but no, baby's feet were crossed right in the spot we needed to see and wouldn't budge! Just wish the next 10 weeks would speed up and be done with! Sick of feeling miserable all the time :(

[GirlieCat]

Mummy, I am sorry you don't feel confident in baby being a girl. I have had 3 ultrasounds since the blood test showed girl and each time I hold my breath when they look for gender. All three have said girl so I am finally feeling confident.

We finished our birthing classes through the hospital, but they were very generic and not focus on a particular birth type (they covered natural, medicated and c-section). I am very set on doing a no pain med, all natural birth. Any other moms have suggestions on what to read or watch to help with techniques for achieving a natural birth?

[Dreamsister]

Girls, I can I please ask about your opinion? I might book a 3D scan just for fun but wonder if there could be any risk to the baby? I have a friend who claims that ultra scans are not good for baby and should be avoided if possible. Do you think it is better not to take the scan?


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[XXforhubby]

Mummy, I am sorry you don't feel confident in baby being a girl. I have had 3 ultrasounds since the blood test showed girl and each time I hold my breath when they look for gender. All three have said girl so I am finally feeling confident.

We finished our birthing classes through the hospital, but they were very generic and not focus on a particular birth type (they covered natural, medicated and c-section). I am very set on doing a no pain med, all natural birth. Any other moms have suggestions on what to read or watch to help with techniques for achieving a natural birth?

I have had unmedicated vaginal births for all of my children. The best advice I can give you is practice various breathing techniques. With DS1, I ended up using the Lamaze breathing technique (it's just what worked for me at the time). With DS2, repetitive breathing helped me stay ahead of the pain. That is the key. To get your mind right, you have to stay ahead of the pain. If you allow yourself to feel the pain in the moment instead of rising above it, you will be so overwhelmed. Ride the pain like a wave- it will come on gradually, it will peak, then it lets up so you can have a break. Use the time between contractions to calm your mind, regroup, and rest a bit. Keep breathing though. I always find breathing deeply in between contractions helps me. I also squeeze my DH's hand during the peak of the contraction. It helps me to release the pain and not hold onto it. Plus, it makes my DH feel like he's helping me (he is in a big way!). I always bring a stress ball to squeeze in case he needed a break, but he never does. I never found distractions like music helped me. I don't like to be distracted- I like to be in the moment- this helps me deal with the pain better.

You got this! FX and GL to you!!



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[XXforhubby]

Oh, and different positions helped. With DS2 I had horrendous back labor because he was facing the wrong way. My OB had me go onto all fours and that helped SO much! I knew when he twisted the right way because the pain was SO much more manageable!

With DS3, I needed to walk around. My OB let me pace in the room until I needed to push. I walked the entire time, breathing, and squeezing DH's hand!



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[GirlieCat]

Girls, I can I please ask about your opinion? I might book a 3D scan just for fun but wonder if there could be any risk to the baby? I have a friend who claims that ultra scans are not good for baby and should be avoided if possible. Do you think it is better not to take the scan?


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I have had 5 ultrasounds so far and have a 3D one in a few weeks. I don't see anything wrong with them, but that is me.

[GirlieCat]

Thanks XX. I think I am not a distraction type either, but more a focus and rise above so your advise was awesome!! I am going to research and work on breathing techniques. We went over some in my class but I need more practice and options.

[XXforhubby]

Thanks XX. I think I am not a distraction type either, but more a focus and rise above so your advise was awesome!! I am going to research and work on breathing techniques. We went over some in my class but I need more practice and options.

You're welcome! Definitely practice a few, because those that may seem silly now but may be just what works later. That's how I felt about the Lamaze breathing. I thought at the time there was no way I would choose that one, but that was the only one that helped me with the hard and fast labor with my DS1.



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[MrsSparkles]

I had 'Ina Mays : guide to childbirth" recommended to me on here.
It's incredible, and fills me with confidence that I can have an unmedicated birth.
Would highly recommend it !

[Shannshaff]

I have had all of mine unmedicated except the last one. I was given an IV drug (can't remember which one) and I will never do that again. On top of not doing much for the pain, I was hallucinating and had to really focus on the fact that I was having a baby. It was nuts. And I lost 2 hours with my baby. I can't remember his first 2 hours of life. Gone.

Deep breathing helps me through it the best. But that is what works for me. I have to have my DH there to remind me to breath because I have a bad habit of holding my breath. And I have realized when I get to the point of "I can't take this anymore" it is right at the transition to pushing. SO now I know when I feel that, it is almost over.

I will say that I have nice quick labors, I am not sure I could do it for many many hours, so just remember that if you need to, there are other options.

[GirlieCat]

Thank you all. I will look into that book Sparkles.

Anyone watch the Ellen show? I applied to her Mother's Day Special today. It is for pregnant mom's expecting their first baby and films in the LA area the 2nd week of May (in case anyone else is in this area). I am praying so hard that I get a ticket. She gives away so much free stuff and it would be a huge blessing to get to go.

[GirlieCat]

Weirdest thing happen today...it was like a flash back to first trimester. I ate breakfast and within minutes felt sick and minutes later threw it all up and then some. I felt fine after but it was just so strange. Hope it was a one time fluke.

On another note, how many Braxton hicks are other ladies getting daily? I get at least 12 a day, although I am not counting, doc isn't concerned, but I was just wondering what it is like for others.

[Belle.]

I'm almost 20 weeks and have been getting Braxton hicks for the longest time as well! Just found out I'm having a baby girl after two boys and I am shocked! I had bv when I conceived (sways boy) and wasn't swaying girl at all at the time. Sometimes I wonder if the gender of a child has a lot to do with the man!

[Mummyof4boys]

I get lots of Braxton Hicks as well. Kind of freaks me out sometimes because they are so uncomfortable! Midwives say it's perfectly normal as long as they aren't painful.

[Mummyof4boys]

I still have moments like that too GirlieCat. My sickness never entirely went away though. It's not the same nauseous feeling I had but I still feel sick and bloated in the stomach like I need to vomit. Plus I still have the awful after taste a lot of the time which makes it worse. I spewed while brushing my teeth yesterday lol. Oh the joys of pregnancy haha. 9 weeks 3 days to go! Eeeek!!

[GirlieCat]

Hi ladies. How is everyone doing? This is a very quiet group. I am 30 weeks today and full of emotions- still feels unreal, scared, nervous, uncomfortable and impatient. I wish I could say I was excited too but that is never an emotion I feel when I think of her being born. I am struggling with the concept of being a mom...

[MrsSparkles]

Weirdest thing happen today...it was like a flash back to first trimester. I ate breakfast and within minutes felt sick and minutes later threw it all up and then some. I felt fine after but it was just so strange. Hope it was a one time fluke.


I could have written this myself !
Happened this morning and yesterday, I didn't throw up, but the nausea was so strong it kept stopping me in my tracks.

How are you feeling today ?

[MrsSparkles]

I'm almost 20 weeks and have been getting Braxton hicks for the longest time as well! Just found out I'm having a baby girl after two boys and I am shocked! I had bv when I conceived (sways boy) and wasn't swaying girl at all at the time. Sometimes I wonder if the gender of a child has a lot to do with the man!


Congratulations !
And yes, I think it is all up to the man really, but swaying helps the boy or girl swimmers survive or not !

[MrsSparkles]

I still have moments like that too GirlieCat. My sickness never entirely went away though. It's not the same nauseous feeling I had but I still feel sick and bloated in the stomach like I need to vomit. Plus I still have the awful after taste a lot of the time which makes it worse. I spewed while brushing my teeth yesterday lol. Oh the joys of pregnancy haha. 9 weeks 3 days to go! Eeeek!!

Nooooo, whilst briushing your teeth. Hope you're feeling better x

[MrsSparkles]

Hi ladies. How is everyone doing? This is a very quiet group. I am 30 weeks today and full of emotions- still feels unreal, scared, nervous, uncomfortable and impatient. I wish I could say I was excited too but that is never an emotion I feel when I think of her being born. I am struggling with the concept of being a mom...


Hi GirlieCat,

is it the actual being a Mom that leaves you feeling this way ?

I am excited for labour, and birthing this little man.
Feeling confident that my body will know what to do, and the amazing bonds that will happen (Me and DH, and both of us and baby).

When I think too far ahead though, I do start to panic a bit.
Like "How am I going to keep this baby alive, and how am i going to raise a well rounded individual"
That's natural though isn't it ? I hope it is.

[Dreamsister]

Dear GirlieC and all other due-buddies. I am 30+ weeks like you G and counting the days until my due date. I am still very exhausted and have also nausea often. This pregnancy has been a hard one compared to my previous 3. Maybe it is because of my age. Maybe it is because I am carrying a girl this time. I don't have much energy and count the days until I can go on maternity leave.

GirlieC, I think it is normal to feel scared and struggling with the concept of being a mom. Just relax and don't blame yourself for feeling this way. Does your DH feel the same as you or is he exited?
Yes, this is a quiet group. Think everyone are busy and have little time to chat.



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[GirlieCat]

I am not sure why I feel this way. Everyone always says "Oh you must be so excited" and all I think is...uh no. Hubby isn't excited either. I think it still all seems unreal to both of us. We are going through the motions of doing what we need to do to prepare (nursery, registered, planning baby shower) but I still can't image us coming home with a baby and being a family of 3 now. It freaks me out and doesn't seem real.

I think we were so focused on the goal of just getting pregnant (when I didn't think I could) and then having a girl (when so many told us to expect a boy) that those were our goals...forgot that those goals lead to an actual human that we will be responsible for. I am sure hormones are not helping because I am definitely more emotional these past couple weeks.

I will be fine eventually, but lately it is just hard to not get stressed out by all that needs to be done still and the wonder of when she will come and how labor will go and how things will be once she is home. Hubby tries to be supportive, but he sucks at anything emotional. He can cook, clean and fix things, but he can't have a conversation about emotions if his life depended on it.

[foxtrotmama]

GirlieCat, I remember feeling exactly the same way in my third tri with my first baby. It's normal to be nervous and it's normal not to be able to picture what life will be like after the baby comes!

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[XXforhubby]

GirlieCat- It felt so surreal to me with my first child. I had just gotten my mind around to TTC, when Bam!, we got pregnant! I remember feeling like, "Oh crap! I've got to deliver this baby and take care of him! How the hell am I supposed to do that?!?" It all felt so foreign to me. I went through the motions with people, because I was still trying to process my feelings. It wasn't until the nurse laid him on my chest, and I whispered his name into his ear, that I felt unconditional love for him. I became his advocate when he was in the NICU, and we had the nurse from HELL! I still recall feeling primal love for him that shocked me in its strength. I never saw myself as the motherly type, but it changes you when you go through labor and meet this little person who is completely dependent upon you. Trust me, when you meet her, your bond will be forged, and it will forever change you!

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[Mummyof4boys]

XX said it perfectly!! I think a lot of us have these feelings before becoming parents. My husband and I never wanted kids but he is 12 years older than me, so when he was approaching 40 his attitude changed and he felt like he did want to be a dad after all! I didn't really care either way so just sort of agreed to it. We got married fairly quickly (eloped with 2 family members as witnesses) once we decided, as we'd already been engaged for 3 years and just never found the perfect time to do so (issues with my mum). Literally a couple weeks after we got married I fell pregnant first go! The pregnancy wasn't too bad looking back, easy compared to this one lol, but my waters broke at 36 weeks and I delivered 10 hours later. I was scared not knowing what to expect and it wasn't a good birthing experience and hospital stay at all! But despite that, it was instant love when they placed him on my chest. Having a child truly does change you for the better I believe.

[Mummyof4boys]

I should also add that every birth is different so don't be scared that you may have a bad experience too. My 3rd son's birth was the most amazing, empowering, wonderful, healing experience! I'm so hoping this one will be the same :)

[amelia]

Hi everyone,

I'm in my 31st week now. DH and I are very excited to become parents. I made multiple trips to the library to check out tons and tons of parenting books. In the end I returned most of them almost immediately and only read four: Bringing Up Bebe, Secrets of the Baby Whisperer, Dear Parent, and Montessori from the Start. I'm also keeping Baby 411, The Nursing Mother's Companion, and The Diaper-Free Baby on hand. Between these books, all the handouts and videos our doula recommended we watch, and upcoming classes we will take, I feel like I'll have as much baby knowledge as I care to have before the birth. :)

I've started to slowly buy baby items, a few new things every week although it looks like I'll have one big order of $250 to take advantage of the Amazon completion discount. My goal is to have everything ready by week 36. It doesn't seem like we'll be having a baby shower.

We officially started our landscaping project a month ago, but rain has really slowed us down. I'm just praying everything is done and we get our garage back (currently being used to store various garden stuff) by the time baby arrives. I think it will be.

There's been a lot of drama with my mom lately. The latest thing I really need to deal with is to tell my parents that we will *not* be staying with them after the birth. My mom kept mentioning the possibility and now my dad is explicitly saying he thinks it's best if we stay at their house for 4-6 weeks after the birth. They live 12 miles away from our house and I was really envisioning that they would come to us when they have time and then *go home*. My dad works part-time and my mom is also busy so them staying at our house is not in consideration.

I've also lined up a few possible people that could come up to 15 hours/week (I don't want to pay for more than that) to supplement any family help we get. I hope that's enough.

[Mummyof4boys]

What's your due date Amelia? Must be pretty close to mine :) I don't blame you for not wanting to stay with them. I couldn't think of anything worse! Lol. My MIL who i love dearly, came to stay for a couple weeks when DS1 was 4 weeks old and she drove me mental!!! I know she meant well, but I couldn't stand being told how to do things the "right way". It was quite funny sometimes as he had bad colic and she didn't know what to do with him either lol. Hubby suggested she come stay when this Bub is born and I replied with a "HELL NO!!" Haha

[MrsSparkles]

Dear GirlieC and all other due-buddies. I am 30+ weeks like you G and counting the days until my due date. I am still very exhausted and have also nausea often. This pregnancy has been a hard one compared to my previous 3. Maybe it is because of my age. Maybe it is because I am carrying a girl this time. I don't have much energy and count the days until I can go on maternity leave.

GirlieC, I think it is normal to feel scared and struggling with the concept of being a mom. Just relax and don't blame yourself for feeling this way. Does your DH feel the same as you or is he exited?
Yes, this is a quiet group. Think everyone are busy and have little time to chat.



Mother to 3 boys ❤️ and pregnant with a baby girl due in June 2017 [emoji120]. DW (41) [emoji1326] DH (38) [emoji144]

That's really good advice!

It must be so much harder to be pregnant when you have another child too.
Saw this on Mama Naturals Youtube, made me think of what 2nd time around would be like lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XkCXGTNmhcI

Definitely think this group is quiet, maybe because we have a lot of opposites, and people are sad ?

[Dreamsister]

How do you girls sleep at night? I often wake up because of discomfort. I roll from left to right hundred times and have a pillow under my belly. I feel like a whale and cannot sleep for more than 8 hours. I have started to think about my upcoming labor and if I should bring my boys. My mother wants to join too and my DS2. Are any of you going to bring others than your DH?


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[Mummyof4boys]

I lose count how many times I wake up at night! Constantly switching sides and if I roll over onto my back I'll wake up feeling sick and short of breath! I can't even recline on the lounge to watch tv. Have to lay on my side otherwise I feel like I'm going to black out and can't breathe :( seriously don't know how I'm going to cope the next 8 weeks! I'm so miserable all the time :( Gosh i couldn't imagine having anyone other than my husband at the brith. Luckily my mum will have to look after the boys for me, but even still I don't think she'd want to be there as she's very squeamish and would pass out at the sight of blood haha! I'd love for my older boys to be present but not sure at what age they'd let them in birthing suite...? My eldest will be 9 a few days after my due date.

[GirlieCat]

Dream, I might have my sister in the room during labor (not sure yet), but never in a million years would I have my mom. She annoys me with everything she says or does related to this pregnancy. She is going to be pissed, but I am going to have a talk with her that I don't even want her at the hospital in waiting room (which she has already talked about camping out in waiting room). I will have a rule of no visitors till 2 hrs after birth.

I toss and turn at night too but still feel I get pretty decent sleep. I always get up once to pee too, but I usually did that when not prego too.

I am nervous what the next 9 weeks will bring in terms of getting bigger and more uncomfortable. Just for fun, I did try on a belly band someone gave me and I was shocked how comfortable it made me. I don't even have back pain or am that uncomfortable, but with the band on I noticed a huge different and literally felt not prego. I will definitely wear it when I exercise or am going to be on my feet a long time.

[Dreamsister]

Thanks for your comments, girls. It is nice to know that I am not the only one feeling miserable and having bad nights. I also have this pain up under my ribs like baby is queezing herself up there. Good advice GirlieC about the belly band. I might get one.
I think time goes so slowly and I really look forward to get her out of my belly and into my hands. I really want to share the labour with the closest family. My 3 previous deliveries was nice, quick and easy, so I imagine this one will also be like this.
DH has been on my side the last 3 times, but is willing to give the space to my mother, who gave birth to my littlebrother at the age of 45. I like her to be part of this biggest moment in life. I also want to share it with DH and my 3 sons, but I am afraid that it will be to much for the boys and I don't really want them to look at me down there with blood and everything. So maybe it is better if their father wait with them outside the room near me. My labour might go really quick this time and I am afraid that it can happen in the car on our way to the hospital.


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[MrsSparkles]

Sleeping is annoying, trying to stay on the left side is so hard.
Only 9 weeks to go though, so it's manageable.

We've got a rule about visitors, which no one is going to like.
The rule is "Don't call us, we'll call you"
If that is after a week, or even two, then deal with it :)

Do I sound awful ?
Cos this is going to go down like a lead balloon with my family.
I've also had a whole big conversation with my Mum about sharing pictures on Facebook.
My DH isn't online at all, and I have one just for Mummy-to-be related things (have perhaps two pictures up on there, not a lot at all).
So I've asked my Mum if she could not post the photos of him on Facebook, and instead e-mail them to her friends etc.

Also...to add! I think this over protective thing is more common in first time Mums.
Because I see so many second, third time Mums being a lot more relaxed about who to have in the delivery room, picture sharing, visitors, holding the baby etc etc

[foxtrotmama]

MrsSparkles, you sound perfectly reasonable to me. The birth is exciting for everyone, but it's also happening to you. Afterwards, it's your body that needs to recover and you (and DH) that need to bond with the baby. You should have visitors as early or as late as you want.

Your baby's online presence should be up to you too. People who can't respect how I want pictures of my kids shared don't get to take any.

To be honest, I'm only getting more pushy with time about people respecting my boundaries. We had more visitors with DS1 than DS2, and I didn't even say anything when my ILs posted about my pregnancy on Facebook before I did. I honestly doubt we'll have any visitors until we're settled at home with baby #3.


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[GirlieCat]

Sparkles, I agree, you sound completely reasonable with both the no FB request and the "we'll call you." Having a baby, and our firsts, is a pretty big deal and we should be able to have a say in how things play out. I know what you mean though that family won't take it that way and I am sure I will piss some people off but whatever.

For me it has nothing to do with being protective of baby, in fact I rarely think of baby in the equation. For me it is about my privacy. We are very private people and I want to feel settled and ready for visitors both physically and mentally. When we bought our current house, we were in escrow for 2 months and only a week or so away from closing before I told my mom and family. We do that often with big life things. Just very private people.

My mom can annoy me like no other so I will be having advance conversations with her about things I don't want to discuss. She is the type to say out loud in front of everyone- "so did you tear a lot down there?". And she can't help but give her advice and opinion on everything even when not asked, like I am sure she will tell me I am breast feeding all wrong if she is in the room when I feed. Maybe she made me private because I dread her comments so much.

When I look back and think, I have made it 31 weeks it sounds like a long time, but then when I think I still have 9 weeks to go, that sounds like even longer some days. Glad I left the shower and babies room and some household projects till the end so they will hopefully keep me busy and make time go by faster (but also stressed I will run out of time). I can't wait for this group to start having their babies.

[MrsSparkles]

My mom can annoy me like no other so I will be having advance conversations with her about things I don't want to discuss. She is the type to say out loud in front of everyone- "so did you tear a lot down there?". And she can't help but give her advice and opinion on everything even when not asked, like I am sure she will tell me I am breast feeding all wrong if she is in the room when I feed. Maybe she made me private because I dread her comments so much.

When I look back and think, I have made it 31 weeks it sounds like a long time, but then when I think I still have 9 weeks to go, that sounds like even longer some days. Glad I left the shower and babies room and some household projects till the end so they will hopefully keep me busy and make time go by faster (but also stressed I will run out of time). I can't wait for this group to start having their babies.

Do we have the same Mother ?
I think we do lol :)
Mine announced to EVERYONE in the street about my sisters 3rd degree tear, piles, and that "Poor thing, she hasn't managed to go to the toilet for over a week now"
WHO DOES THAT ?!!!!

Got a feeling these 9 weeks will fly, are you due before or after me ? (19th June)
Don't stress about running out of time, it will all get done !

[MrsSparkles]

MrsSparkles, you sound perfectly reasonable to me. The birth is exciting for everyone, but it's also happening to you. Afterwards, it's your body that needs to recover and you (and DH) that need to bond with the baby. You should have visitors as early or as late as you want.

Your baby's online presence should be up to you too. People who can't respect how I want pictures of my kids shared don't get to take any.

To be honest, I'm only getting more pushy with time about people respecting my boundaries. We had more visitors with DS1 than DS2, and I didn't even say anything when my ILs posted about my pregnancy on Facebook before I did. I honestly doubt we'll have any visitors until we're settled at home with baby #3.


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Thank you foxtrot, makes me feel better that you don't think I am being Momzilla.

Really not cool about your IL posting on FB, that is a special announcement for you to make !!!!

[GirlieCat]

Do we have the same Mother ?
I think we do lol :)
Mine announced to EVERYONE in the street about my sisters 3rd degree tear, piles, and that "Poor thing, she hasn't managed to go to the toilet for over a week now"
WHO DOES THAT ?!!!!

Got a feeling these 9 weeks will fly, are you due before or after me ? (19th June)
Don't stress about running out of time, it will all get done !

HAHA- I do think we have the same mom for sure!! It is amazing that at 36 years old my mom still embarrasses me with the things she says. It has been really rough these past 10 weeks since I told her I am pregnant. She upsets me often. I had to send her an article about the "worst things to say to new parents" to try and get her to understand. It is a little better, but not wonderful. She said one of those things on Sunday and then looked at me and said "oh you don't want me saying that do you."...oh mom.

I am technically due June 22 if you go off the last day of my last period, but I know I most likely ovulated day 16, not 14 so I have been telling people June 24. That gives me 2 extra days before my mom harasses me about "being late" because she told me the very first day I told her I was pregnant "oh you will be late for sure, all first time mom's are late". Now I have a goal to go early just to prove her wrong. (she also swore my belly button would pop out and I would get stretch marks because those happen to her- neither has happened to me yet so I am hoping I can prove her wrong on those things too) :-)

[GirlieCat]

I just realized, it is pretty clear I have "mommy issues"....haha. Maybe why I wanted a daughter so bad...to have a chance at establishing a more normal mother daughter relationship. I hear other people who want to be just like their mom and I can't relate...my motivation comes to do whatever I can to be the opposite of my mom. I cringe when I do anything that remind me of my mom.

[XXforhubby]

I just realized, it is pretty clear I have "mommy issues"....haha. Maybe why I wanted a daughter so bad...to have a chance at establishing a more normal mother daughter relationship. I hear other people who want to be just like their mom and I can't relate...my motivation comes to do whatever I can to be the opposite of my mom. I cringe when I do anything that remind me of my mom.

That was my motivation for agreeing with my DH to have children. My mom is like both of yours but with the added bonus of mental health issues as well!! I'm nothing like my mom as a parent! I was opposite though- I didn't want to have a DD for fear I would become my mom. Now that I've been a parent for 6 years, I see clearly that having a daughter will not be an issue!!

FX you can keep her in check!! Remember, YOU set the rules as a parent and this goes for your mom too!!


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[MrsSparkles]

HAHA- I do think we have the same mom for sure!! It is amazing that at 36 years old my mom still embarrasses me with the things she says. It has been really rough these past 10 weeks since I told her I am pregnant. She upsets me often. I had to send her an article about the "worst things to say to new parents" to try and get her to understand. It is a little better, but not wonderful. She said one of those things on Sunday and then looked at me and said "oh you don't want me saying that do you."...oh mom.

I am technically due June 22 if you go off the last day of my last period, but I know I most likely ovulated day 16, not 14 so I have been telling people June 24. That gives me 2 extra days before my mom harasses me about "being late" because she told me the very first day I told her I was pregnant "oh you will be late for sure, all first time mom's are late". Now I have a goal to go early just to prove her wrong. (she also swore my belly button would pop out and I would get stretch marks because those happen to her- neither has happened to me yet so I am hoping I can prove her wrong on those things too) :-)


Oh Wow, you are so lucky not to have stretch marks !
I have a ton, but also no popping of the belly button.

EVERYONE keeps saying "Expect baby to be a couple of weeks late, they always are".
Think I should have told them my due date was different too, that is such a smart idea.

Isn't it amazing how our Mums still know how to annoy us !

[MrsSparkles]

That was my motivation for agreeing with my DH to have children. My mom is like both of yours but with the added bonus of mental health issues as well!! I'm nothing like my mom as a parent! I was opposite though- I didn't want to have a DD for fear I would become my mom. Now that I've been a parent for 6 years, I see clearly that having a daughter will not be an issue!!

FX you can keep her in check!! Remember, YOU set the rules as a parent and this goes for your mom too!!


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So nice to have someone who understands !

I actually resisted having children for a long time, my biggest fear is that i will turn out like my Mum (my sister is a carbon copy of her now she is a Mom).

Do you think that by being very self aware, that helps you to not be like her ?
Or is it natural ?

[XXforhubby]

So nice to have someone who understands !

I actually resisted having children for a long time, my biggest fear is that i will turn out like my Mum (my sister is a carbon copy of her now she is a Mom).

Do you think that by being very self aware, that helps you to not be like her ?
Or is it natural ?

I would say both. While I am not abusive to my children (emotional or physical), I have found that I can have a short temper at times. In these moments, I make a conscious decision to take a few moments (15-30sec) before I respond. Sometimes I have to take a few deep breaths. My children know that I'm upset when this happens, and then I respond. I also am self reflective with them. I make mistakes too, but in the moment I reflect with them on what I could have done differently. I believe self reflection is taught and not inherent. Doing this means much more than an, "I'm sorry".


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[GirlieCat]

So nice to have someone who understands !

I actually resisted having children for a long time, my biggest fear is that i will turn out like my Mum (my sister is a carbon copy of her now she is a Mom).

Do you think that by being very self aware, that helps you to not be like her ?
Or is it natural ?

I think being self aware is a huge factor to changing any behavior. My mom is notorious for giving the silent treatment when mad. Could be days, weeks, months or even years. She didn't talk to my sister for 5 years over something. I hated it growing up and learned how unhealthy that was and I can honestly say I never do that. Hubby and I might go a few hours or even a day if we are mad, but then I insist on talking things out and moving forward. He knows I don't believe in the silent treatment because of my mom.

I am almost nothing like my mom now and I am very defined in my personality and values so I think I will be okay when I become a mom.

[Dreamsister]

Gosh. Your moms sounds like a challenge and share some similarities. Now I see why you won't have her near you while giving birth. My mother can also embarrash me with the things she says, but it is never her purpose to offend or make you angry. She does so because she dosen't have much sense of situation. She has actually managed to improve and now think more before she talks.

I wonder if you girls would find it funny to form a virtual mothers group with a private FB-group? I understand if you don't want to reveal your names and identity and just keep the conversation on this site, but I just think it could be funny to see who is behind your awesome alias names and share picture of our babies. What do you think?


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[Mummyof4boys]

Sounds like we all have the same mum lol!

We have the same rule too. I don't want any people hanging around until we are home and settled. Regardless of first or 5th baby, this is a very personal special time for hubby and the boys to bond with Bub. There's one friend in particular that drives me mental. She'll just walk right up to me and take the baby out of my arms without even asking. Pisses me off so much!! I'm very protective immediately after birth and anyone other than hubby I don't really like touching the baby. Some may think that's weird but that's just how I feel. Love those hormones haha!

The kids have gone back to school now after school holiday break and I'm getting tonnes of stupid comments. Two people in one day asked me if its still a girl ugh!!! And another mum had to tell me that they told her one of her sons was a girl and it popped out another boy. I really wish people would keep their mouths shut sometimes! Oh and one of the teachers asked how much longer to go and I said 7 weeks 4 days, she replied with " oh you've still got AGES!" Ffs thanks for reminding me lol

[GirlieCat]

Sounds like we all have the same mum lol!

The kids have gone back to school now after school holiday break and I'm getting tonnes of stupid comments. Two people in one day asked me if its still a girl ugh!!! And another mum had to tell me that they told her one of her sons was a girl and it popped out another boy. I really wish people would keep their mouths shut sometimes! Oh and one of the teachers asked how much longer to go and I said 7 weeks 4 days, she replied with " oh you've still got AGES!" Ffs thanks for reminding me lol

Haha, those stupid comments made me laugh because it really amazes me the things people have the nerve to say to pregnant woman. I am finding so many in my life are secretly doctors because they always want to tell me "oh you shouldn't do that when you are pregnant" or "it is okay to eat whatever you want- your pregnant." The worst part is most that say things are other mother's...I just don't get it.

I also hate the sympathetic question of "how are you feeling?" I know they are just trying to be nice but I hate being treated different plus I am not about to tell a random co-worker that "my vagina is swollen and feels like it is falling out of my body, thanks for asking." Instead I usually responded saying "fine, how are you feeling" and ignore that they are asking because I am pregnant.

[Dreamsister]

What do you think about forming a private, closed FB-group where we can chat and share pictures of our babies?


Mother to 3 boys ❤️ and pregnant with a baby girl due in June 2017 [emoji120]. DW (41) [emoji1326] DH (38) [emoji144]

[GirlieCat]

So I am confused...shortly after I announced, my mom said she wanted to throw me a baby shower. I said okay but that we wanted it at our house. She thought that was weird and we should have it somewhere else but we just bought a nice house a year and half ago and it is great for gatherings so why go rent a place when our house is good (no one else in the family has a house big enough to host it). She also thought it was weird that we wanted it co-ed for hubby's friends and a BBQ theme- like casual, not really baby shower.

Anyway she has been stressing about details and we have been talking about what I want in terms of colors and theme but then all of sudden she asked yesterday if I am going to be paying for everything, like food and supplies. Ummm....I guess I thought if she was hosting the party for me (even if it is at my house) that she would pay for stuff. If I am going to pay for all the supplies then what part of it is "her throwing me the shower". I hate conflict but I don't know what to say to her.

[XXforhubby]

I would just say it like it is but very gently- you don't want to make things worse but you need to be clear.

I would say you apologize for throwing her for loop by wanting the party at your house. Explain to her your reasonings for wanting it there. Also, let her know your DH is excited to be a first time parent and wanted to be involved too. His friends are equally excited for him and you didn't think it was a big deal to include them. Let her know that while this may not be a "traditional" baby shower, this is how everyone could be included. I would tell her that she most definitely can still plan the party, etc. If she doesn't want to pay for things, then you will take over the planning.

It's hard when people's expectations don't fit the reality of things. It seems your mom had an idea of what a baby shower should be, without taking you and your personality into consideration.

Hang in there!


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[nearlyalegume]

Hi, I'm a bit late to join this forum... we did a kinda sorta pink sway (Rephresh + 3 day cutoff) and the 21 week scan indicated that it's a girl. Waiting for confirmation from a 4D elective scan at the beginning of June before I get too excited, because after three boys, I'm really struggling to believe that the tech got it right! It seems altogether too surreal to have turned up the other side of the coin after four pregnancies and nearly seven years...

Edited to add: baby numero quattro is due August 28th.

[Mummyof4boys]

Hi, I'm a bit late to join this forum... we did a kinda sorta pink sway (Rephresh + 3 day cutoff) and the 21 week scan indicated that it's a girl. Waiting for confirmation from a 4D elective scan at the beginning of June before I get too excited, because after three boys, I'm really struggling to believe that the tech got it right! It seems altogether too surreal to have turned up the other side of the coin after four pregnancies and nearly seven years...

Edited to add: baby numero quattro is due August 28th.

Congrats on your little girl and welcome :)
I'm in the same boat. I was told girl at my morphology scan after 4 boys, but Bub didn't cooperate at my 28 week 3d scan so I've got to wait another 6 weeks 6 days to find out for sure lol

[nearlyalegume]

Congrats on your little girl and welcome :)
I'm in the same boat. I was told girl at my morphology scan after 4 boys, but Bub didn't cooperate at my 28 week 3d scan so I've got to wait another 6 weeks 6 days to find out for sure lol

Ah, sneaky baby! It's exciting but excruciating at the same time; I want to go mad buying pink (the day after my scan I was in the infant girl section at a local department store and I swear I was like Maria Von Trapp coming over the hill, lol), but there's this niggle in the back of my mind going... wait... wait until you KNOW because otherwise it could be a lot of expense for no reason :/ Hopefully we both got skilled techs who know their stuff!

[Mummyof4boys]

Ah, sneaky baby! It's exciting but excruciating at the same time; I want to go mad buying pink (the day after my scan I was in the infant girl section at a local department store and I swear I was like Maria Von Trapp coming over the hill, lol), but there's this niggle in the back of my mind going... wait... wait until you KNOW because otherwise it could be a lot of expense for no reason :/ Hopefully we both got skilled techs who know their stuff!

Haha! Ive barely bought anything 'just in case', but my mother has bought a ridiculous amount of girly stuff!

At the morphology scan the US tech pointed out the girly bits, but I didn't know what I was looking at LOL. It didn't look anything like boys bits and I've seen plenty of those over the years hahaha! But there's always that doubt in my mind and hard to imagine not being just a boy mum.

[GirlieCat]

Welcome Nearly!!

Mummy I think that is funny you haven't bought much but your mom has...that is the same for me. Even the things we did register for are not "girly". I am confident it is a girl, but I am just not into pink and pretty. Our swing, bouncer, play pen, car seat, stroller...all those bigger items are grey. We wanted gender neutral so we can use them again if need be.

Third trimester is proving to be pretty hard on me emotionally. First trimester theme was throwing up...second trimester was smooth sailing and forgot I was even pregnant most of the time...third trimester has been all emotions and getting fat. I cry just about every day which is so unlike me so I hate it. I was so stable and strong emotionally the first 30 weeks so this is coming as a real surprise to be so unstable. It is causing issues in my marriage and at work but I am doing my best. Talked to doc and she has no concerns of actual depression, just thinks it is normal hormones.

Just about 7 more weeks to go and now I really don't care if I am ready or prepared...I just want time to go by fast so I can get this over with. Looking forward to my baby showers in the coming weeks so I know what I still need to buy and can feel a bit more prepared. Hind sight, I should have done the shower by the 32/33 week mark instead of the 35/36 week mark, but it is what it is. Hope everyone else is doing good.

[Mummyof4boys]

GirlieCat, sorry you're feeling crap. I didn't get any relief in the second trimester, felt sick from 5 weeks just want it to be done with! :( 5 weeks 6 days to go...I feel bad wishing away this pregnancy but I'm having a hard time enjoying it when I feel so sick, tired and sore! And I feel guilty for having such a short fuse with the kids lately :(

[Dreamsister]

I seems like many of us are miserable and feeling like crap. For me this pregnancy has also been a challenge in terms of fatigue, nausea, weight gain, crappy nightsleep, indisposition & overall exhaust. In the end of the day I collapse like I have been doing a marathon. I feel like I am 70 years. Thank God there is only six weeks left and I can quit my job in two weeks and go on maternity leave. Wishing all of you ladies strenght & good spirit in the final spurt of your pregnancies.

Happy baby shower, GirlieCat. Wish you a jolly day.


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[Mummyof4boys]

38 days til due date...but who's counting lol. Hope like hell I don't go overdue like last time ugh! Feel like total shit :(

[nearlyalegume]

114 for me :( Feels like a lifetime. Still queasy at almost 24 weeks and so sick of feeling sick.

[Mummyof4boys]

34 days...getting crankier by the day! Hips getting worse and lots of Braxton hicks. Hopefully that's a good sign for a quick labour. Can only hope

[MrsSparkles]

I was just thinking, when the first photo of a newborn goes up in this thread it's gonna be REAL.

Feeling slightly freaked out now, that there are only 5 days my DH has off to do jobs, as he works 6 days a week.
Hoping he can get it all done, the house is still in disarray and in need of completion (painting and decorating that has been started but not finished)

[Pbn3]

Hi ladies! Hope you don't mind me crashing your thread! Just hoping for as many opinions as possible in a poll regarding the moon phase and what ia 'said' to sway what. So if you're familiar could you please pop on over and post an answer. Thank you :)
Moon phase gender definition poll (http://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/showthread.php?t=59172)

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[Mummyof4boys]

How is everyone going? Not long now for some of us :) I'm so ready to have this baby lol! 36+2 and counting...I delivered DS1 at exactly this gestation almost 9 years ago. My husband and mum think I'm going to deliver early because I'm so huge this time, but I think she's going to go overdue just to prove a point haha! Will be such a relief to not feel so sick and miserable 24/7

[GirlieCat]

Hi Mummy, you are getting so close! I am 35+1 and getting a bit anxious. I want so much to have her early but only a week or two. I need her to stay in till about 38w so I have more time to prepare (mostly at work). I think the not knowing is the worst. I really am not prepared with stuff either. Have baby shower on Saturday and then I can finally go through and see what I need, wash clothes and blankets, install the car seat and pack my hospital bag.

Question for you ladies, what items are really necessity- playpen, swing, bouncer, rock-n-play? Can't decide what is best for a bedside sleeper until she moves to crib. Plus we have two story house so I need something for downstairs too.

[MrsSparkles]

You're so close Mummy !
Can't wait to see pictures of your beautiful baby.

Girliecat, Hope your shower goes amazing.

[Mummyof4boys]

Hi Mummy, you are getting so close! I am 35+1 and getting a bit anxious. I want so much to have her early but only a week or two. I need her to stay in till about 38w so I have more time to prepare (mostly at work). I think the not knowing is the worst. I really am not prepared with stuff either. Have baby shower on Saturday and then I can finally go through and see what I need, wash clothes and blankets, install the car seat and pack my hospital bag.

Question for you ladies, what items are really necessity- playpen, swing, bouncer, rock-n-play? Can't decide what is best for a bedside sleeper until she moves to crib. Plus we have two story house so I need something for downstairs too.

I'm hoping I deliver early too! Can't imagine another 3 weeks of the baby growing inside me..feel like I'm going to explode!!

We wasted sooo much money with DS1 on things we were told we were going to need :/ We sold our change table early on as they start rolling fairly soon and you've either got to strap them in or change on the floor anyway. We got rid of the bassinet as my boys have all been shit sleepers early on and they grew out of it pretty quickly. With DS3 & DS4 I just co-slept from birth, was so much easier! I know it's not recommended these days but we did so in a very safe manner. I used a cradle swing or bouncer for when I had to go to toilet, have a shower, cook dinner etc. . I'd just make sure Bub was visible at all times. Play pens don't seem to be hugely popular here in Aus. I never liked the idea of one, but each to their own. I can see how they may come in handy in some situations. A playmat is handy to have too. Not sure what a rock n play is?? I didn't even bother with a baby bath for the other kids lol. I showered or bathed with them from birth, especially nice for skin to skin and encouraging breastfeeding. When they were old enough to sit, I'd just bathe them in the tub lol.

[Dreamsister]

GirlieC. How did your baby shower go? Hope you had a good day.

Yipeee, we are all so close now. My maternity leave started this week. Feel amazing to be able to relax and not think about work for the next year or more. Have been to see the midwife. Everything looks good. She estimates baby to be 2600 gram which is great. My 3 sons were around 3 kilo at birth - she will probably be the same.
Looking so much forward to giving birth and seeing her.
Take care everyone.


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[Mummyof4boys]

I had my midwives appt yesterday at 37 +1 and she said I'm measuring full-term 40 weeks...can anyone tell me what he heck that means?? I didn't think to ask at the time as I was feeling pretty sick. She said as I was leaving that hopefully I'll go early.

[MrsSparkles]

I had my midwives appt yesterday at 37 +1 and she said I'm measuring full-term 40 weeks...can anyone tell me what he heck that means?? I didn't think to ask at the time as I was feeling pretty sick. She said as I was leaving that hopefully I'll go early.

I am guessing that means you are measuring larger than 37+1?
Don't worry ! I am measuring way way ahead, the growth scan last time (at 32 weeks, showed me at 33). Another scan tomorrow and I am 36+4, so will let you know what they say.
Do you know if you are having a big baby ? Have they done any guesstimates yet

I have gone into full on swollen hippo mode, the weather took a turn for the hotness yesterday, and in the UK we dont believe in air conditioning :)
So everything has swollen.

[Mummyof4boys]

I am guessing that means you are measuring larger than 37+1?
Don't worry ! I am measuring way way ahead, the growth scan last time (at 32 weeks, showed me at 33). Another scan tomorrow and I am 36+4, so will let you know what they say.
Do you know if you are having a big baby ? Have they done any guesstimates yet

I have gone into full on swollen hippo mode, the weather took a turn for the hotness yesterday, and in the UK we dont believe in air conditioning :)
So everything has swollen.

No, she wouldn't give a guess on size but said bubs head didn't feel big. And I won't be having anymore scans so can't get an estimate on size :/ My fundal height always measured spot on with gestation for the boys so I don't know what this means lol. Hoping she's not a whopper!

Hope your swelling subsides soon. That does not sound very pleasant :/ oh the joys of pregnancy lol.

[GirlieCat]

Sparkles, I am with you on the swelling. I was fine until about a week ago and now at the end of the day my feet/ankles/low legs are all puffy and hurt. Heat here in California picked up too. I think it doesn't help that I have been working 12 hour days and I am on my feet a lot.

I am working so hard to get done what I need to at work so I am all set for baby. I am not taking time off before. I will work till I pop. Also running around doing a lot of store returns and exchanges from the baby shower and duplicates and things I don't need. I got way too many clothes and in small sizes (0-6 month) I got almost nothing over 9 months so I am exchanging some of the small stuff. Can't believe due date is only 4 weeks away...and hoping she comes early. Still doesn't feel real that I am having a baby.

[Mummyof4boys]

Spent a few hours up at hospital maternity ward being monitored last night. Had awful stabbing pains in my belly all day yesterday, had to call hubby out of work to pick the boys up from school for me. Turns out I was having contractions but my cervix is still high and posterior so no baby yet. She said it may be signs of early labor or it can come and go for the next couple weeks..have no idea. Pains have fizzled out this morning :/ At least Bub was happy and little heartbeat galloping along lol. It's the first time hubby got to hear it

[Dreamsister]

Mummyof4b: glad to hear baby is well. You must have been frightened about the pain. Are you far a way from the hospital?
I haven't packed my hospital bag yet nor typed the phone number to the birth departement. Because I gave birth exactly 3 days past due date with my 3 boys, I think this will be the case again. So I don't feel I am in a hurry. But it can theoretically happen any time from now, so I better be prepared. This pregnancy has been quiet different from my boy-pregnancies. Nausea had returned. I am very much out of energy and feeling lazy. I have a lot of water in my legs and body and I walk like a 70-year old!

GirlieC: Like you I still can't believe I am having a baby in a few weeks time. Why do you want her to come early?

I wish I would have the energy to work hard to get everything ready, but It's like I am too exhausted and too lazy. DH is doing a lot of effort to buy what we need. He bought baby seater for the car, pushchair, pram, alarm and other baby gear. I am thankfull for that. He finds it second hand because we can't afford to buy everything new.

Are you on maternity leave? I am and it is so nice. I try to gear down and allow my self to relax and try to sneak in a nap during the day.

Take care everyone.


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[GirlieCat]

Mummy sorry you are having such bad pains. Glad to hear baby is doing good and might be coming soon.

Dreamsister- I really just don't want her to come late, that is my fear, but a week early would be nice for a bunch of reasons.

I am a sorry you feel so tired. Wish my husband would be doing more to prepare. Everything falls on me, but I don't feel tired at all and needing to prep actually gives me energy and drive so maybe it is a good thing. I love buying used too...I take pride in saving money where we can.

I can't wait for our first birth in this group!!

[Mummyof4boys]

We live close, about a 7 minute drive from hospital.
Hospital bag packed and in the car. All we'd need to do is race over to pick up mum so she can mind the boys. Hopefully it happens when the kids are at home and not at school - that would be a pain. It took hubby he good part of an hour the other day to pick the kids up drop them them off then get mum over. Hopefully this one doesn't come too fast.

I'm so tired and sore. Not getting a whole lot of cleaning done around the house..that'll give mum something to bitch about when she comes over ugh!

[MrsSparkles]

Oooo Mummy, looks like you may be popping soon !
So excited for you.

I am also wanting this lil one to come early, just a week or two.

And Girlie...my husband is not helping much right now either, as he is working 6 days a week.

[amelia]

38 weeks + 2 days now and feeling physically great! Maternity leave started two weeks ago and I'm enjoying it and getting various things done. I'm hoping baby comes later (but not later than 41 weeks) because I'm still feeling good and our landscaping project still isn't done yet. Current projection is it will be complete by the end of June, so they will definitely still be finishing up the last few things after the baby is born. Sigh. The work is steady but slow.

First Time Moms (and others of course), what are your childcare plans?

[MrsSparkles]

First Time Moms (and others of course), what are your childcare plans?

Childcare wise, it's just going to me.
My DH is taking the first week off, but then he goes back to work.
We don't have family in the area, so I am just hoping that it is copyable.
What about you ?

[Dreamsister]

Childcare wise, I am going to take 1,5 year off at maternity leave. After that I'll have to go back to my full time job and my baby will have to go to a private nursery.

My DH is going to take the first two weeks off and in addition to that he has 3 more weeks on summer vacacion.

By the time I go back to work ultimo 2018 we are thinking about getting an au pair to help out with all the daily household tasks, so we are more time together with the kids.


Mother to 3 boys ❤️ and pregnant with a baby girl due in June 2017 [emoji120]. DW (42) [emoji1326] DH (40) [emoji144]

[amelia]

MrsSparkles, hope it goes well for you. One week with DH and no one else to help sounds like it could be rough. Wishing you an easy delivery and easy baby. :)

I will be on maternity leave for six months. DH will stay at home from 0 to 8 weeks depending on how we're feeling and how helpful my family turns out to be. Then he will use the rest of his paternity leave after my leave ends. All in all Baby will be able to stay home with us for at least 9 months. :)

Dreamsister, I am also very interested in au pairs and have been looking closely at the program. If we get one it would be sometime March-June 2018. I would combine the au pair with daycare. I found two center daycares I like and plan to check in with them monthly on our waitlist spot. And I also found two home daycares I like, but one only accepts children from 12 months on so that's a little tricky.

[Dreamsister]

Amelia, we had au pair for two years. Her contract ended a year ago and since then we have been 'on our own'. She was a great, great help in terms of cooking, cleaning, doing grocery shopping, cleaning, fixing the laundry and so on. She did not babysit at all, but she gave us time so DH and I could concentrate on the kids. We two full time jobs it is busy and I really hope we can afford to get an au pair again one day.


Mother to 3 boys ❤️ and pregnant with a baby girl due in June 2017 [emoji120]. DW (42) [emoji1326] DH (40) [emoji144]

[GirlieCat]

Hi All. Glad to see everyone more chatty these days. We all must be getting ready.

I am not taking much time off work at all and in fact plan to just work from home the whole time (light at first) until I am able to start going back into office part time and then eventually back full time with 6-8 weeks hopefully. Hubby will take a few weeks off with me right after birth but not sure how long.

My work threw me a surprise shower this week and it was so great. Going to spend the weekend going through more stuff and getting settled. Question- do you ladies hang most of baby clothes or fold and put in a drawer?

[MrsSparkles]

[Dreamsister : That sounds fantastic, will be so nice to spend all that time together with the new arrival.

Amelia : I am hoping that it will go okay, as I have nothing to compare it to lol
A friend of mine has aupairs instead of nannies, they work out cheaper and hers helps out with the housework.

[MrsSparkles]

Hi All. Glad to see everyone more chatty these days. We all must be getting ready.

I am not taking much time off work at all and in fact plan to just work from home the whole time (light at first) until I am able to start going back into office part time and then eventually back full time with 6-8 weeks hopefully. Hubby will take a few weeks off with me right after birth but not sure how long.

My work threw me a surprise shower this week and it was so great. Going to spend the weekend going through more stuff and getting settled. Question- do you ladies hang most of baby clothes or fold and put in a drawer?


Awww that is lovely about a shower.
I am seriously wishing I had had one now, but still so many friends don't even know I am pregnant lol.

I have washed and hung everything in his wardrobe, and every time I go in his room, I can't resist opening the doors to have a sniff :P

[XXforhubby]

You're almost due Mrs. Sparkles!! Wow! Time flies! I hope everything goes smoothly for you! I'll be stalking for pics [emoji4]!


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[amelia]

My coworker whose wife had the same due date as me gave birth yesterday! But it could still be up to three more weeks for me if I go all the way to week 42. I really hope I don't. I might start acupuncture in week 40...Already started taking some Evening Primrose Oil capsules and drinking some Raspberry Leaf Tea.

My husband's grad school friends threw us a tiny shower last weekend (just 6 adults and 2 children) which was so lovely. Many of his grad school friends are out of town for another friend's wedding in Korea so that was why it was small. Now I've got all my stuff...39 weeks tomorrow. :)

[Dreamsister]

@GirlieCat, what is your profession since you are able to work from home? Do you hire a private nanny to take care of your baby when you go back to office?

@amelia, what good does Rasperry Leaf Tea and Primrose Oil birth wise?

@MrsSparkles, nice that you have arranged everything in your sons room. I love how you describe that you open the door to have a sniff. To me it is still surreal that I am soon having a baby. Looking at her clothes and stuff help me realise that it is real.
I am not ready for birth yet. Still need to buy a pram and some other baby gear. I also have to do some cooking and baking to store in the freezer so we are prepared when visitors come over to congratulate with the newborn. I also have to do some cleaning and tidying up. So it is fine for me to go until my due date.
Any of you struggling with liquid in your legs like I am?
I bought compression stockings, which helps.
Looking forward to get back in shape when baby is born.



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[Mummyof4boys]

39 weeks tomorrow. MS came back with a vengeance last night. Spewed up my dinner. It was so bad and forceful I had pee ********* down my legs :( It'll be such a relief to be free of this sickness. 8 months is a long time to feel this awful! Can't wait to finally meet her <3

[MrsSparkles]

You're almost due Mrs. Sparkles!! Wow! Time flies! I hope everything goes smoothly for you! I'll be stalking for pics [emoji4]!


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Thank you ! The Birthing pool arrived, and we inflated it to give it a trial run.
Suddenly felt very very real !

Amelia : Congratulations to your coworker ! I hope you have a really smooth delivery yourself, and that the EPO and RLT work.
So kind of your hubbies friend, it's amazing how we find out who is there for us during pregnancy isn't it ?

Dreamsister : I am not connected at all to this baby, I love the movements and I am always touching the bump.
However I cannot imagine there is a baby shaped someone in there, it just isn't connecting or making sense.
Anyone else get what I mean, or am I crazy lol. Will be the Mom who gives birth and stares in disbelief like "WHAT THE HELL IS THIS, ITS A BABY !!!!!"

Mummyof4 : Sorry to hear you are not feeling well, it;s not fair...this is meant to be the home stretch !

[XXforhubby]

MrsSparkles- you made me laugh so hard [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]!! This is my 4th pregnancy, and I still say, "I can't believe there is a brand new person in here we haven't met yet"!!! It does feel/seem surreal- that is the beauty of it!

Trust me, it will hit home as soon as you lay eyes on your baby for the first time! There is nothing in the world like holding your baby on your chest, and him/her snuggling deep into you [emoji4]!! I always whisper their full name in their ear at that moment. It seems like it is a more gentler way of announcing to them who they are!!

I can't wait to see pics [emoji4]!!


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[GirlieCat]

Thank you !
Dreamsister : I am not connected at all to this baby, I love the movements and I am always touching the bump.
However I cannot imagine there is a baby shaped someone in there, it just isn't connecting or making sense.
Anyone else get what I mean, or am I crazy lol. Will be the Mom who gives birth and stares in disbelief like "WHAT THE HELL IS THIS, ITS A BABY !!!!!"
!

I GET IT!!!!!! I don't think my brain or heart really have accepted the reality of this. I don't feel connected to baby at all. Unlike you I don't even love the movement. It is interesting sometimes but annoying at other times. I think I am going to have a real hard time post baby...the closer I get, the more I don't really want her to come.

[Mummyof4boys]

Had my membranes stripped this afternoon. Hopefully baby will make an appearance in the next 24/48 hours :)

[Faithinpink]

Very exicting Mummyof4boys xo all the best

[Dreamsister]

Wauh Mummy... How exiting. You are gonna meet your new fellow soon. Why did you have your membranes stripped?


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[MrsSparkles]

MrsSparkles- you made me laugh so hard [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]!! This is my 4th pregnancy, and I still say, "I can't believe there is a brand new person in here we haven't met yet"!!! It does feel/seem surreal- that is the beauty of it!

Trust me, it will hit home as soon as you lay eyes on your baby for the first time! There is nothing in the world like holding your baby on your chest, and him/her snuggling deep into you [emoji4]!! I always whisper their full name in their ear at that moment. It seems like it is a more gentler way of announcing to them who they are!!

I can't wait to see pics [emoji4]!!


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That just brought tears to my eyes :)
The thought of whispering a name like that....such a beautiful first thing to hear.

Is it odd though, that I dont even imagine a human is in there. Lol. Just something moving lol

[XXforhubby]

Nope not odd at all! It's hard to imagine someone is living inside you, haha! Isn't that what we call a parasite- albeit a cute one, haha! Trust me, it will all come together once they arrive!


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[Shannshaff]

I am the same way and this is baby #6 to come out of me! I can never fully understand that it is a person inside of me. And I still have no idea how they fit in there!!!

HUGS to you MrsSparkles and GirlieCat and everyone about to meet your little ones! I am so excited to see pictures. Looks like you are real close to meeting your little girl Mummy!!!!

You all will do great and be so in love so soon!

[Dreamsister]

@Mummyof4boys, how are you doing?
I thought labour was on It's way this night. Woke up at 3 am with massive nausea and lower back pain that came with interval. The past week I have also had thin feces (sorry for the detail).
I hope she stays in there a little longer, so I have more time to fix things in the house and buy a little more baby gear.
I am so exited for all of us..[emoji120]


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[Mummyof4boys]

Maybe tonight. Usually I don't see any action til 48 hours after membrane strip which is basically now lol. I've been passing my mucus plug all day and having pains off and on but nothing regular yet. Usually things don't progress quickly til my waters break so just waiting for that to happen... :)

[Mummyof4boys]

Oh and to answer your question earlier, the midwife offered to strip my membranes at the last appt to help speed things along for me. I was dehydrated from being sick all the time and in heaps of pain so I jumped at the chance. Can't deal with being pregnant anymore. 8 months is a long time to feel so miserable 24/7 :(

[MrsSparkles]

It's a full moon tonight too !
So maybe tonight @Mummy ?
They say (I am not sure who they are, one presumes wise witchy ones) if you stand in the direction of the moon, and rub your belly clockwise you'll go into labor lol.

[Mummyof4boys]

Isobel Eva, born 2:50am June 10, 7 lb 10.6oz, 52cm long perfection <3

The most painful, intense and quick labour I've ever experienced lol. So madly in love with my little girl. Still can't believe it!

[Dreamsister]

Huge congrats. So happy to hear labour went well and baby is safe in your arms. Must be amazing. How has the boys reacted? Will you share a pix? What a beautifull name.


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[MrsSparkles]

Congratulations !
Welcome to the world Isobel 💕

Hope Mummy gets some well deserved rest and lovely baby snuggles.
Such a blessing ✨

[GirlieCat]

Yeah Mummy!! So happy for you. Happy Birthday Isobel!

Good luck to everyone else. We should all start popping real soon.

[MrsSparkles]

Yeah Mummy!! So happy for you. Happy Birthday Isobel!

Good luck to everyone else. We should all start popping real soon.

Wonder who will be next ?

[foxtrotmama]

Isobel Eva, born 2:50am June 10, 7 lb 10.6oz, 52cm long perfection <3

The most painful, intense and quick labour I've ever experienced lol. So madly in love with my little girl. Still can't believe it!
Congrats on your new baby girl! I hope you are both doing well and that you are resting!

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[nearlyalegume]

Isobel Eva, born 2:50am June 10, 7 lb 10.6oz, 52cm long perfection <3

The most painful, intense and quick labour I've ever experienced lol. So madly in love with my little girl. Still can't believe it!
Congratulations!!

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[MrsSparkles]

Has anyone heard of the 'Purple Line' theory to check if your cervix is dilating ?
It basically is this :

This is a purple/dark line that shows up and extends well, to put it delicately, along your natal cleft. Or rather – your butt crack. The line starts at the anus and moves up the cleft. When it is all the way to the top, you are 10cm. Normally – you do have a bit of a line there. But this Purple Line or Bottom Line is not he line that is normally there (which is usually pink). This is a dark purple line. My suggestion is to check out your bum in early pregnancy so that you know the difference.

A study was done in 2010, and published by BMC Pregnancy & Childbirth, that proves the existence and accuracy of the purple line for many women. In this study, the line itself was present at some point in labor for 76% of women. The line was more apt to show in women with spontaneous labor than in those with induced labor (80% vs. 59%). The further dilated a woman was, the more likely she was to have the line show up. The line showed up most when women were around 7-8cm dilated, and seemed to fade in some women at almost complete dilation. And according to this study sample, the line seems to first show for most women around 3-4cm.


And yes, I checked and I have one lol.
So wondering if I am dilating, have had menstrual like cramps on and off for a few days now, and permanent Braxtons, but no other signs.

[GirlieCat]

Haha sparkles. I haven't heard of that nor have I checked.

Swelling in my ankles is in full effect. Yesterday I looked like an elephant. Probably not helping that I am working 10-12 hour days lately. Feet and legs are very uncomfortable.

I also had doc appointment and zero dilation which is depressing. Had ultrasound last week too and doc said baby is measuring a week and a half too small. He wants another ultrasound tomorrow with the specialist. I don't see the big deal if baby is small, 1.5 weeks small is still within range. We will see what he says after tomorrow's scan.

I am ready to not be pregnant. It isn't even about meeting baby (still no attachment really), just ready to have the pregnancy part over. Hoping she comes out before the 21st.

[Dreamsister]

Sparkles, I haven't heard of this theory either. When is your due-date? Exiting that you are having some cramps. Maybe it is your body getting ready for labour. I have my probably last midwife appointment tomorrow. My due date is in six days. I would not mind go 3 days past due date like I did with my 3 boys. I am feeling great with lots of energy and less fluid in my legs. Have been cleaning and tidying up like crazy. I love this (nesting) period where the motivation & energy is sky high. Are you very active too?

Soooo exiting who will give birth next in this group.


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[MrsSparkles]

Had not great news today.
cervix is totally closed, so no sign of labour.
They did a scan, and there is virtually no Amniotic fluid left, which means the placenta is most likely failing.
They sent us home and told us to talk about what we want to do :(

[Shannshaff]

Mrs Sparkles - (((HUGS))) Sorry you got bad news. Praying for you and a healthy delivery of your little guy!

[XXforhubby]

(((Huge Hugs))) MrsSparkles! I'm hoping and praying that all will be ok with your sweet baby boy and you. I'm hoping for a safe delivery!

Hang in there!


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[GirlieCat]

Had not great news today.
cervix is totally closed, so no sign of labour.
They did a scan, and there is virtually no Amniotic fluid left, which means the placenta is most likely failing.
They sent us home and told us to talk about what we want to do :(

Sorry Sparkles. What options are you being given? C-section or induction or wait?

[Burakoam]

MrsSparkles...you are much calmer than me. just reading your post made me say mentally "nope i dont wanna go home, induce me or cut me open" the idea of the placenta failing or there not being much fluid makes me nervous. i would call ASAP and schedule at the very least an induction if you really dont want to go the route of a c section yet..but i feel with how inductions can fail or take forever especially since your cervix doesnt sound favorable, i would schedule the c section. I have had 2 vaginal births and 2 c sections..1 of the vaginals was an induction and it wasnt any worse than my 'natural' labor for me..but my cervix was also favorable, and it still took 17 hours to get her into the world..i just dont know that id advise to risk that with so little fluid left..i feel like you and baby would be better off going straight for the section. But yes it has to be your choice.

[MrsSparkles]

MrsSparkles...you are much calmer than me. just reading your post made me say mentally "nope i dont wanna go home, induce me or cut me open" the idea of the placenta failing or there not being much fluid makes me nervous. i would call ASAP and schedule at the very least an induction if you really dont want to go the route of a c section yet..but i feel with how inductions can fail or take forever especially since your cervix doesnt sound favorable, i would schedule the c section. I have had 2 vaginal births and 2 c sections..1 of the vaginals was an induction and it wasnt any worse than my 'natural' labor for me..but my cervix was also favorable, and it still took 17 hours to get her into the world..i just dont know that id advise to risk that with so little fluid left..i feel like you and baby would be better off going straight for the section. But yes it has to be your choice.

They didn't give those options on the spot.
Because the heartbeat and movements were okay, they just said to come back on Saturday and they would do another trace.
Then the consultant says she is back to work on Monday (it was her last day of work today) and would do another scan.
She said we are to think about what we'd like to do over the weekend, I said C-section. But she just said We will see.
I've driven myself insane now, thinking over the last 3 weeks since my normal scan, that the baby has been without fluid, and that his cord has compressed and he's probably brain damaged.
Panic has started to set in.

[MrsSparkles]

I tried to telephone an hour after we got home, to see if I could schedule a c-section for Monday by the way.
But the Consultant had already left :(

[Dreamsister]

Oh no MrsSparkles. But please don't panic. Your little guy is fine. They must be able to scedule you for a C-section om Monday or earlier. I don't understand why the hospital dosen't take more responsibility for your situation in stead of let you make decisions. They are the professionals, not you.
Did you notice that your fluid dissapeared? And where to?
Do you think the menstruational cramps was because of that?
Hope you can get him out very soon. I will pray for you [emoji120]


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[MrsSparkles]

Oh no MrsSparkles. But please don't panic. Your little guy is fine. They must be able to scedule you for a C-section om Monday or earlier. I don't understand why the hospital dosen't take more responsibility for your situation in stead of let you make decisions. They are the professionals, not you.
Did you notice that your fluid dissapeared? And where to?
Do you think the menstruational cramps was because of that?
Hope you can get him out very soon. I will pray for you [emoji120]


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I don't know really, but I assume that because the movements are okay that the consultant is happy to wait.
My midwife called me, and was very honest and lovely as always.
She said some fluid loss is normal, and that she would say go ahead and deliver at home.
But because I have almost none, she said that they can't predict how little man will cope with delivery.
Yes, he is happy in there now...but with an induction there would be little rest for him in between contractions, and no fluid to protect him.
She said even though I am a home birth (planned), that she will come and be there for the C-section, that really made me feel good.

I really wish I knew where the fluid went, they tested me, and there was no water leaking....where could it have gone? Such a mystery
The cramping could be because he is not cushioned in there now, so he is bouncing off my pelvis harder.

[Shannshaff]

Oh MrsSparkles. I will pray extra hard for you. That sounds so very scary to me. Please keep us updated and rest as much as you can and drink as much water as you can in hopes that it will help.

[Burakoam]

There are women who say drinking extra water does help produce more fluid, it can't hurt sparkles!

[GirlieCat]

So sorry for all this worry and stress Sparkles. I would hope that if they sent you home and they didn't think it was urgent to get baby out, maybe that means it isn't as bad as the consultant made it sound. I can't image them sending someone home if baby was in danger.

As far as the delivery with low fluid, wouldn't all deliveries have low fluid if the water has broken? I mean isn't "water breaking" you losing most of that fluid? (Not that yours broke but I am just asking).

[Burakoam]

Yes but it's to my knowledge considered advisable to get baby out within 48 hours of your water breaking. I imagine it's the same for any leaking

Sparkles for what it's worth though my mother in laws water broke with my sister in law, actually broke, and she didn't know she was supposed to go to the hospital..so she walked around for 2 weeks still pregnant leaking fluid and my SIL is still fine.. pretty and perfect and a dentist so it didn't hurt her none.. so while it is scary that your fluid is low I think everyone else is right that if it was dangerously low they would have booked you to have a c section immediately. I would for sure talk to them Monday and schedule something, but that's me

[MrsSparkles]

I think the only risk from water breaking is infection.
What they think has happened is that my placenta is failing, so no more fluid is being made, and no blood flow, nutrients or oxygen are getting to the baby.

My midwife sounded quite concerned that I wasn't being seen until Monday.

I tossed and turned all night, and felt little movement and none at all this morning.
So I've called DH back from work, and am making my way to the hospital for 8:30 when they open.
I hope that everything is fine, and that the on call consultant puts my mind at ease.

[GirlieCat]

I think the only risk from water breaking is infection.
What they think has happened is that my placenta is failing, so no more fluid is being made, and no blood flow, nutrients or oxygen are getting to the baby.

My midwife sounded quite concerned that I wasn't being seen until Monday.

I tossed and turned all night, and felt little movement and none at all this morning.
So I've called DH back from work, and am making my way to the hospital for 8:30 when they open.
I hope that everything is fine, and that the on call consultant puts my mind at ease.

Good luck. Hope they have good news.

[MrsSparkles]

Good luck. Hope they have good news.

Hi GC,

Just got back from the hospital, baby seems to be okay heartbeat wise they said the decrease in movement is due to there being almost zero fluid now.
Saw a Junior Dr, who insisted on me being admitted and having a C-section TODAY.
When they called my consultant, this decision was overruled as heartbeat is fine....I tried to argue but the midwife said it is so full of emergencies today.
They have asked me to come back daily for monitoring, and booked me in to have a C-section post Due date....I feel uneasy about this.
What if I go into labour before ?
I am so proud that the UK as a free healthcare system, but sometimes I question if we get the best care as the NHS is so overstretched.

[Burakoam]

I don't understand.. consultant over ruled a doctor? I live in America Not familiar with your healthcare system but something doesn't seem right.. is there another hospital you are comfortable delivering at? If your gut is telling you this can't wait you need to really push to have your voice heard.. with my DD2 I knew something wasn't right when they were telling me she was small as I was complaining she was big and I felt like at one point almost shattered one of my ribs with a good kick the way it felt at the time.. they said she measured small and despite gestational diabetes they said they didn't wanna do a c section.. I should have pushed much harder and still regret it to this day as she ended up 9 pounds at 37 weeks and had shoulder dystocia from vaginal birth.. born purple and not breathing and in shock from them dislocating her shoulder to get her out of me.

I don't say this experience lightly and the last thing I want is to freak you out and I know some in here are probably like "omg stop don't freak her out" but it's the best way to get the point across that sometimes mothers intuition is spot on.. I didn't listen to mine and it almost cost me my daughters life. I would call or go back in and if you have to express your anxiety and concern that something isn't right to you and you want him out now.

[MrsSparkles]

I don't understand.. consultant over ruled a doctor? I live in America Not familiar with your healthcare system but something doesn't seem right.. is there another hospital you are comfortable delivering at? If your gut is telling you this can't wait you need to really push to have your voice heard.. with my DD2 I knew something wasn't right when they were telling me she was small as I was complaining she was big and I felt like at one point almost shattered one of my ribs with a good kick the way it felt at the time.. they said she measured small and despite gestational diabetes they said they didn't wanna do a c section.. I should have pushed much harder and still regret it to this day as she ended up 9 pounds at 37 weeks and had shoulder dystocia from vaginal birth.. born purple and not breathing and in shock from them dislocating her shoulder to get her out of me.

I don't say this experience lightly and the last thing I want is to freak you out and I know some in here are probably like "omg stop don't freak her out" but it's the best way to get the point across that sometimes mothers intuition is spot on.. I didn't listen to mine and it almost cost me my daughters life. I would call or go back in and if you have to express your anxiety and concern that something isn't right to you and you want him out now.


The consultants are the top of the tree here.
I have to go back in tomorrow, and every morning to be monitored, they wouldn't do a scan today as too busy...but I will INSIST tomorrow, as if there is even less fluid, then surely that is going to cause him damage.

I'm so sorry to hear about your experience, shoulder dystocia was the thing I worried most about...and needing to be cut down there (ironic now).
Thank God, that everything was okay with your baby.
These 'growth' scans are so lousy, they never seem to get it right !

[Burakoam]

I have my fingers crossed they listen to you please let us know when you know!

She measured big in ultrasound actually.. she measured small with the belly tape. This was 2010.. thankfully they didn't rely on that with my last two.

[GirlieCat]

Sparkles, I am really anxious for you and I can't image how you feel. I am in USA like Burakoam and so I can't fully understand how your health system works.

My doctor seems very cautious and I would image if my fluids were low like yours, he would have already ordered baby out, but who knows. I do know he was very firm that if my water breaks on its own but labor doesn't start, he has a 24 hour rule that baby must come out (now that I am full term of course).

For reasons I won't tell a full term pregnant lady, I have my own fears about losing the baby in the final days/weeks so I can't even image the stress you feel. I am praying for you and baby boy. Hopefully either naturally or intervention he is out, safe and sound in your arms in the next day or two.

[Dreamsister]

How are you doing Sparkles? Any news? Thinking of you & praying you and baby are ok.


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[GirlieCat]

Thinking of you Sparkles. [emoji170]

[MrsSparkles]

Hi Ladies,

Today was quite difficult.
I tried as hard as I could to get a scan, but they said there is no point as there won't have been more fluid made.
They did a monitor and the heart and movements were good, seems like lil man just liked to sleep in until late mornings these days - he's been active since we got home too.
I bawled my eyes out, as DH had to go to work straight after.
They again said there is nothing I can do to replace the fluid, I've since found out that isn't actually true and they can transfuse fluid into the sac (it lasts for a week, and can thin any merconium and help stop cord compression).
They took MRSA swabs, and told me that I should be prepared to have a c-section on Monday or Wednesday.
The Dr today was so nice, but he also said some alarming things about how the baby could already be getting less oxygen to the brain and becoming 'damaged' - in which case why is he not out yet !
He also stated that c-section was safest for the baby, but natural delivery was safest for me.
DH just about freaked out over that, and said what the heck would he do without me and a new baby to care for.

He wants me to just wait to go into labour, but I don't think I can, and there is no saying that I won't end up having a c-section anyway !

[Mummyof4boys]

Omg Sparkles what the hell are they waiting for?! I don't know what the standard of care is like in the UK, but they don't muck around here in Australia. I'd be opting for a csection asap! How absolutely terrifying for you :( Praying your little man makes an appearance very soon and is happy n healthy xx

[Burakoam]

I gotta say it as i think alot of us are thinking it...your doctors suck, Sparkles..i am so sorry you have all this stress and worry. In this day and age of modern medicine c sections arent too bad...i dont know, i think of myself as being a real weenie and not having a good pain tolerance but my 2 c sections were a breeze...worst part is the spinal.. and my babies are safe and healthy and there wasnt any real complications having c sections instead of natural labor but yes i suppose there is always the potential of risks..but not unlike the risks of normal labor too! please dont let them scare you because i think a c section will be whats best for baby AND you at this point..please if they even mention the c section monday make sure you take them up on the offer..lets get your baby boy out and safe...and remember when they start telling you about brain damage and stuff like that...thats not always the case and i doubt it at this point if his heart and everything looks good. try NOT to worry and stress until monday..i know thats so hard. I want to give you the biggest hug! :(

[MrsSparkles]

There are definite drawbacks of a free healthcare system.
I know that it sucks in the USA, having to pay those high insurance costs - but you do get what you pay for, and so much more is available.

The NHS is fantastic, and if you have cancer, or break a bone - that is the place to be !
For maternity care, it has some way to go, although the Home birth team are phenomenal in my area.

Today I didn't get to see anyone except two midwives, one of them being my own (she made a special trip just to come see me and give me a hug, that felt so nice).
She was shocked at the size of me, as she hasn't seen me for 2 weeks.
I asked her if she thought maybe I didn't have low fluid, and that the baby was just SO BIG that it was taking up all the room and they can't see the fluid.
She said "We will see!" but agreed that he is massive now.
So I see my actual consultant tomorrow now, and I am all packed in case she keeps me in for the section.
Midwives did both say there is a lot of activity going on in my uterus, and that if I go into labour tonight, stay at home as long as possible if I want to try for a vaginal delivery.
I do feel him moving a lot more again today, if he was really in trouble :
A) Wouldn't they just have delivered him ?
B) Wouldn't I feel sick in some way?
C) Why are his vitals so good on the monitoring?

Feeling a lot more positive and less worried today.

[GirlieCat]

I think you are right with your questions sparkles. If baby was in danger, they would have delivered him. Hoping for a safe delivery for you real soon.

I thought today would be babies birthday but no such luck. I woke at 3:45am just feeling weird. Lots of pressure and had to go to the bathroom real bad even though I had just went at 1am (I usually only get up once a night). Shortly after that contractions started. They were very consistently 8-9 min apart for 3-4 hours. They were much more painful than my normal Braxton hicks and I was really thinking this was the real deal. I was tired from being up since 3:45am so about 8:30am I tried to take a nap. Well I fell asleep and during my nap- the contractions vanished. I have a whole heck of a lot of pressure down there so I hope she is getting ready. In just 24 hours I went from being able to be up and active and walking normal, to a slow waddle because it hurts so much and I contract with too much movement.

Hope this means baby comes soon. I would be happy with Tuesday or Wednesday (gives me Monday to finish last projects at work). [emoji6]

[BabsNMK]

Sparkles I'm so sorry to hear what's going on with you. I rarely come on the board anymore as I found my GD just to be too strong, but I can't help but comment on this. You must be filled with anxiety and terrified. This isn't fair! It's almost morning in the UK so I pray you have something done today. If my fluid was gone I would've been forced into the hospital here (I actually get weekly scans because I have gestational diabetes and they monitor fluid and movement each week) but I would be charged exponentionally. It seems like you can't win no matter where you are. I'm so sorry you have had to go through this especially for your first birth. Hugs

[amelia]

MrsSparkles: Sorry to hear you’ve been having so much stress and happy that you’re feeling better today. I’ll be thinking of you!

Baby Hunter was born on June 11, 2017 at 3:25 PM. 6 pounds, 10 ounces, 20.5 inches! Labor lasted 13.5 hours but felt shorter since early labor was the longest part. By the time I got to the hospital, it was already time to push! It’s been a whirlwind week but I’m much more well rested than the average new mom as our baby sleeps like a log. We often have to wake him up to eat! He’s gaining weight well and can often go 6 hours between feeds at night.

I’m recovering well - labor and delivery were smooth and intervention/medication-free except for a small episiotomy that tore a little bit more while he came out. Baby’s heart rate was slowing down and the midwife wanted to get him out faster. Breastfeeding is going pretty well too; I have an oversupply of milk but am not experiencing pain (engorgement was rough but only lasted a few days). Hubby and I are reaching a good rhythm together. Hubby will take at least three more days off work if not more; we’re taking it one day at a time. Motherhood seems to suit me. We’re generally enjoying these early days.

I hope to be back on these boards in a year or so to sway or go HT for pink. Or maybe we’ll decide one kid is enough! Who knows. :)

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[amelia]

i MrsSparkles: Sorry to hear you’ve been having so much stress and happy that you’re feeling better today. I’ll be thinking of you!

Baby Hunter was born on June 11, 2017 at 3:25 PM. 6 pounds, 10 ounces, 20.5 inches! Labor lasted 13.5 hours but felt shorter since early labor was the longest part. By the time I got to the hospital, it was already time to push! It’s been a whirlwind week but I’m much more well rested than the average new mom as our baby sleeps like a log. We often have to wake him up to eat! He’s gaining weight well and can often go 6 hours between feeds at night.

I’m recovering well - labor and delivery were smooth and intervention/medication-free except for a small episiotomy that tore a little bit more while he came out. Baby’s heart rate was slowing down and the midwife wanted to get him out faster. Breastfeeding is going pretty well too; I have an oversupply of milk but am not experiencing pain (engorgement was rough but only lasted a few days). Hubby and I are reaching a good rhythm together. Hubby will take at least three more days off work if not more; we’re taking it one day at a time. Motherhood seems to suit me. We’re generally enjoying these early days.

I hope to be back on these boards in a year or so to sway or go HT for pink. Or maybe we’ll decide one kid is enough! Who knows. :)

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[Dreamsister]

GirlieCat, how exiting that labour might be around the corner for you. My due-date is tomorrow & no signs of labour for me yet. I feel so good and am very active and energetic all day long with no contractions or pain at all.

Sparkles, I admire your attitude. You seem
to take everything with great calmness and good spirit. I pray that they will give you the C-section today Monday so you can be united with your strong little man.

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[Mummyof4boys]

I think you are right with your questions sparkles. If baby was in danger, they would have delivered him. Hoping for a safe delivery for you real soon.

I thought today would be babies birthday but no such luck. I woke at 3:45am just feeling weird. Lots of pressure and had to go to the bathroom real bad even though I had just went at 1am (I usually only get up once a night). Shortly after that contractions started. They were very consistently 8-9 min apart for 3-4 hours. They were much more painful than my normal Braxton hicks and I was really thinking this was the real deal. I was tired from being up since 3:45am so about 8:30am I tried to take a nap. Well I fell asleep and during my nap- the contractions vanished. I have a whole heck of a lot of pressure down there so I hope she is getting ready. In just 24 hours I went from being able to be up and active and walking normal, to a slow waddle because it hurts so much and I contract with too much movement.

Hope this means baby comes soon. I would be happy with Tuesday or Wednesday (gives me Monday to finish last projects at work). [emoji6]

Ohhh GirlieCat sounds like Bub will be here very soon!! So exciting! :D

[MrsSparkles]

Girlie I am so excited to hear this.
Am going to keep checking back in case there are any updates

How are you feeling now ?

I have some awesome news.
Got my scan today. And I have magically produced an extra 4cm of fluid. Well more ! As I now have a total of 5.9cm.
They told me there was no point in drinking more water.
But all I've done since I've got the news is drink and drink and eat cucumber and strawberries like they are going out of fashion.
Something has made the difference anyway, and I saw him waving and moving his little fingers so clearly.
Booked in for csection now, ironically as things are looking better.
So he will be here Wednesday !

[MrsSparkles]

Sparkles I'm so sorry to hear what's going on with you. I rarely come on the board anymore as I found my GD just to be too strong, but I can't help but comment on this. You must be filled with anxiety and terrified. This isn't fair! It's almost morning in the UK so I pray you have something done today. If my fluid was gone I would've been forced into the hospital here (I actually get weekly scans because I have gestational diabetes and they monitor fluid and movement each week) but I would be charged exponentionally. It seems like you can't win no matter where you are. I'm so sorry you have had to go through this especially for your first birth. Hugs

Hugs back to you.
Glad I can report some good news my end.
I don't know what I would have done without these boards to help me through all this.
I'm so sorry your GD is still so strong, I know how hard and real it is.
Xx

[BabsNMK]

Thankfully my GD is pretty much gone at this point. I'm excited to meet my guy. I think I might be holding out unrealistic hope for doing HT with a 4th (really never wanted four children), but for now I just want to get through to this guy's birth and have him be healthy.

I have no nesting drive or desire to prepare things for baby (I didn't with my first either) so for now I'm just winging everything and hoping it'll work out by the time he arrives. Poor 3rd child.

So happy to hear you have a date. And I can't tell you how many times doctors have said something won't work (in your case drinking extra water) and yet it does. They are humans just like us and even if there's no scientific evidence, sometimes things happen anyway.

[GirlieCat]

Awesome news sparkles!!! Both about the fluid and the scheduled delivery. It is amazing we are all at the end of this journey and welcoming babies soon.

Babs you had me laughing with the poor baby 3 comment. I have definitely had nesting but to be fair I love to clean and do that not pregnant. My problem was I wanted to do everything except baby related cleaning. I did just finish cleaning babies room Saturday and only put together some of her baby gear (like bedside sleeper) yesterday.

AFM- 3am must be important to my uterus because contractions started again this morning. Further apart this time at about every 15 minutes for the last 2 hours (it is 5:30am right now). We shall see if this continues or stops like yesterday. I am packing my hospital bag now just in case- nothing like waiting till the last second to do it. [emoji51]


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[Burakoam]

So happy for you sparkles, that is awesome news. Hoping everyone on this board who is due soon has fast and easy recoverys and strong healthy babies. Have followed a lot of you from your 2WW journeys through the pregnancy, so I am so excited for all of you. Almost there! Hang in there girliecat, you are undoubtedly close!

[BabsNMK]

Girlie I keep thinking what do I have to do around the house like install doors or power wash (and by me I mean my husband). But not one of the items is "bring possible expired car seat out of storage" or "buy diapers". I told my therapist today and she said yup the nesting is probably not happening for you. Oh well the good news is a baby can survive coming home from the hospital in a blanket and borrowed diapers if needed. I still have way too much time though so I'm sure sometime in July I'll get moving.

[MrsSparkles]

Thankfully my GD is pretty much gone at this point. I'm excited to meet my guy. I think I might be holding out unrealistic hope for doing HT with a 4th (really never wanted four children), but for now I just want to get through to this guy's birth and have him be healthy.

I have no nesting drive or desire to prepare things for baby (I didn't with my first either) so for now I'm just winging everything and hoping it'll work out by the time he arrives. Poor 3rd child.

So happy to hear you have a date. And I can't tell you how many times doctors have said something won't work (in your case drinking extra water) and yet it does. They are humans just like us and even if there's no scientific evidence, sometimes things happen anyway.

Hahahah that poor 3rd child will be doted on.
4th HT sounds amazing though, so nice that your OH is supportive in that.
I kind of like the idea of 4, even numbers and all that jazz ;)

Do you think the nesting drive is an old wives tale? I am not feeling anything like that...although we are having a heat wave here so that could be it

[MrsSparkles]

Awesome news sparkles!!! Both about the fluid and the scheduled delivery. It is amazing we are all at the end of this journey and welcoming babies soon.

Babs you had me laughing with the poor baby 3 comment. I have definitely had nesting but to be fair I love to clean and do that not pregnant. My problem was I wanted to do everything except baby related cleaning. I did just finish cleaning babies room Saturday and only put together some of her baby gear (like bedside sleeper) yesterday.

AFM- 3am must be important to my uterus because contractions started again this morning. Further apart this time at about every 15 minutes for the last 2 hours (it is 5:30am right now). We shall see if this continues or stops like yesterday. I am packing my hospital bag now just in case- nothing like waiting till the last second to do it. [emoji51]


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How are the contractions, I am so excited for you !
This is amazing, I feel like I've followed all these stories for son long, and it felt like forever to get to everyones first scans.
Now you're having contractions, Baby Isobel has already been born, and all the rest of us are ready to pop too.

[MrsSparkles]

So happy for you sparkles, that is awesome news. Hoping everyone on this board who is due soon has fast and easy recoverys and strong healthy babies. Have followed a lot of you from your 2WW journeys through the pregnancy, so I am so excited for all of you. Almost there! Hang in there girliecat, you are undoubtedly close!


Thank you Burakoam, I feel like we all have been on this incredible roller coaster together.
And I never take for granted how lucky we are to be on a Due Date thread.

[MrsSparkles]

Girlie I keep thinking what do I have to do around the house like install doors or power wash (and by me I mean my husband). But not one of the items is "bring possible expired car seat out of storage" or "buy diapers". I told my therapist today and she said yup the nesting is probably not happening for you. Oh well the good news is a baby can survive coming home from the hospital in a blanket and borrowed diapers if needed. I still have way too much time though so I'm sure sometime in July I'll get moving.

I am the same though, I've packed a couple of bags.
The babies room is just in disarray, but I finally got my husband to varnish the floors....I doubt I can get him to do anything else though lol

[BabsNMK]

Hahahah that poor 3rd child will be doted on.
4th HT sounds amazing though, so nice that your OH is supportive in that.
I kind of like the idea of 4, even numbers and all that jazz ;)

Do you think the nesting drive is an old wives tale? I am not feeling anything like that...although we are having a heat wave here so that could be it

Ha ha my OH is NOT supportive but I think I could convince him in time. I would have to convince myself though. 4 kids is a game changer.

I did not nest with my first, at all. I did have depression that entire pregnancy but I never had the extra energy and prepping for baby was mildly interesting but there was no frenzy.

#2 I 100% did. I don't remember at what point but I vividly remember painting baseboards at 11pm during the week. I had everything organized and ready to go weeks before he arrived.

This one I just can't be bothered. Too much on my plate with work and home stuff and poor #2 has a birthday in 10 days. All these other things just seem more important. And energy is nonexistent. I hope that changes though.

[amelia]

Okay, I made a post yesterday but it still hasn't been approved yet for some reason, and it was pretty long ugh. Hope it didn't get eaten :( I'll just get to the point - my beautiful baby was born on his due date, June 11! He's a great sleeper and we are doing great! Of course I'm a future planner so now I'm already thinking about swaying/HT for pink haha. But I'm also enjoying my baby. I didn't expect there to be so much joy in these early days!

[Dreamsister]

Mommy, thanks for sharing a photo with us. Wow, she is gorgeous. Hope is does not get sick like her brothers. She is probably well protected by your milk and a higher immune defence system.

[amelia]

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Can't wait to see who's next!

[Shannshaff]

Aww. He is perfect amelia!!!

I am excited to see all these new little ones soon!!!

Mrs Sparkles - so so so happy to hear your update! I was so worried about you and your little man! Looking forward to seeing him Wednesday (or whenever you get a chance to post) :)

[GirlieCat]

Congrats Amelia!! He is a cutie.

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Well our little girl was born today. Meet Hazel Raine. 7pounds3oz 20inch long.

I had an all natural no pain med delivery. It was brutal but I did it. She is healthy and so far a good breast feeder. Still can't believe this is real.


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[Mummyof4boys]

Congrats GirlieCat ! She's so precious!

[Dreamsister]

GirlieC, huge congrats. Thanks for sharing.
What a cutie. So calm and beautifull. Very glad to hear you had a good labour. You must be so releaved and over the moon. [emoji120]

Sparkles, GL today. Will be thinking of you. At what time is your C-section?

WHO's next? I hope I will join soon.


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[BabsNMK]

Amelia and Girlie those are some beautiful babies congrats to you both! Enjoy the early days of a little sleep. I always like that part just not a month in ��

Sparkles I hope all goes well today. Please update when you can.

[Shannshaff]

Congrats Girlie! She is so cute!!!

[Dreamsister]

Sparkles, I woke up this morning thinking about you. How are you doing? Hope your C-sec. went well and you are now united with your baby. Please Update us.


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[GirlieCat]

Thank you all. So far 48 hours old and we are surviving.

Sparkles, thinking about you and can't wait to hear an update and a pic of your little guy.

[amelia]

Awesome GirlieCat; so happy for you! I also had an all natural delivery but my doula says I seem to have super high pain tolerance so I wouldn't describe it as brutal at all. For me it was a good experience. Hope all goes well for you; enjoy her!

[fiveboys]

Omg anyone else crying looking at these gorgeous new babys.. congrats girls xx

[Burakoam]

Sparkles, thinking of you..

[XXforhubby]

Checking in on you MrsSparkles...


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[XXforhubby]

Gorgeous baby girl Girliecat! I love her name! I'm so glad everything is going so well!


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[Shannshaff]

Omg anyone else crying looking at these gorgeous new babys.. congrats girls xx

Yes, they are just so adorable!!

Mrs Sparkles - thinking of you and hope you and your little boy are doing well!!!

[GirlieCat]

Thank you all.

Question- how long did it take for your milk supply to come in? Anyone with PCOS find theirs took longer? I have almost nothing coming out now and doc ordered baby get supplemented with formula because she has lost more weight than normal. I am devastated because I didn't want to give formula but I am doing it for babies good but hoping to stop asap if my milk will just come in. Frustrating.


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[Burakoam]

Girlie I think the average is 3-5 days. I am sending you a message

[foxtrotmama]

My milk came in on day 3 with both babies. My DS1 was heavily supplemented in the NICU and nursed without problems for 3 years. I would recommend pumping when you supplement.

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[Mummyof4boys]

3-5 days normally. Mine came in on day 3 with all 5 babies. Don't stress too much Girlie, just try to pump as much as you can as often as you can when supplementing until your milk supply is enough for Bub. You should be fine :)

[Kittybear]

Congrats to the ladies who have delivered; what beautiful babies! :heart:

@ Mrs Sparkles: I'm hoping all is well with you and buba honey. I was catching up on what you have been experiencing with the NHS and I agree that on some aspects of healthcare it is 2nd to none but maternity really is one of those departments when so much comes down to the postcode lottery of where you live, or even the whim of the consultant you are assigned....

Thinking of you and hope all is well xx

[BabsNMK]

3 days for first baby but I had plenty of colostrum. So you have any? I know PCOS can make this more challenging. Is there a Lactation consultant available for you to see?

[GirlieCat]

3 days for first baby but I had plenty of colostrum. So you have any? I know PCOS can make this more challenging. Is there a Lactation consultant available for you to see?

I have seen the lactation special more times than I can count. She came in my room multiple times while I was in the hospital. I had colostrum but pretty much dried up now. It has been exactly 4 days since birth.
I started pumping yesterday and haven't gotten more than a couple drops out. I am going to keep going at it today and see.
Anyone been put on Metformin to help milk supply? (I was on it to conceive too). Doc refilled my prescription yesterday. Not sure yet how I feel about taking it.
I cried when we saw how much weight baby lost- almost a pound in 38 hours from birth. And seeing nothing come out when pumping. I was starving her and had no clue. It has been an emotional 24 hours for me. Ugh.

[foxtrotmama]

Keep pumping, it helps. Establishing supply can be tricky, especially when you're supplementing. Remember breastfeeding doesn't have to be all or nothing, any amount of breast milk you can give is beneficial. If you're only getting a few drops pumping, I might try alternating pumping with hand expressing- the first few days my son got colostrum and milk by syringe in addition to nursing and formula supplements.

You're doing a good job, Mama. :)

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[Dreamsister]

GirlieC, I am sorry you are having trouble with the milk supply. I hope it will get better soon. Meanwhile your little girl will do fine on supplements.

Sparkles, can't wait to hear from you.


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[Dreamsister]

I gave birth to my daughter Yesterday. Labour was quick, all naturel and without any complications. It was a water birth and it took around 30 minutes. My little girl was 3700 gram and measuring 52 cm. We are all so happy and thankfull that everything went smooth and our girl is healthy. Her 3 big brothers are very kind to her and showing great comfort. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170624/a845f4252f0a39947933717094e079eb.jpg


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[XXforhubby]

Huge congrats Dreamsister! She is SO precious! Look at those cheeks [emoji4]! Give them a kiss for me!! I'm so glad everything went well, since it was so fast!! Good job mama!!


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[GirlieCat]

Huge congrats Dreamsister. She is adorable. So happy for you that labor went well. Very exciting to see so many had their babies this week.


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[Mummyof4boys]

Congrats Dreamsister! She is divine <3

[amelia]

Congratulations Dreamsister! GirlieCat don't worry; you caught the issue quickly! Some people go much longer than that unintentionally starving their baby! It was one of my big worries.

We've also been seeing a ton of lactation consultants. I have oversupply, but Hunter has issues with latching. The latest consultant thinks he has a possible tight exterior frenulum and lip tie. She thinks it's mild and that's why using the nipple shield has been working enough to correct it. We will see the pediatric dentist for a consultation on Tuesday and possibly do the procedure on Friday. The grandparents are all super anxious about it ("maybe he'll grow out of it") but we're pretty sure it'll be the right thing to do to correct it so that I can feed without a nipple shield. The shield is annoying but more critically, it has also been known to sometimes lower supply so I'm pumping one time a day now to make sure to maintain supply which isn't ideal. Ideal is to feed without a shield and pump only when I want to.

[Mummyof4boys]

Thinking of you Sparkles. Hope you n Bub are doing well xx

[cosmosis]

I have seen the lactation special more times than I can count. She came in my room multiple times while I was in the hospital. I had colostrum but pretty much dried up now. It has been exactly 4 days since birth.
I started pumping yesterday and haven't gotten more than a couple drops out. I am going to keep going at it today and see.
Anyone been put on Metformin to help milk supply? (I was on it to conceive too). Doc refilled my prescription yesterday. Not sure yet how I feel about taking it.
I cried when we saw how much weight baby lost- almost a pound in 38 hours from birth. And seeing nothing come out when pumping. I was starving her and had no clue. It has been an emotional 24 hours for me. Ugh.

Just chiming in for a moment. If you had a hospital birth and were hooked up to an IV, the baby will have extra weight on her which will drop rather quickly. The baby won't drop an entire pound in one day of muscle and fat. Also, remember that a newborn's stomach is the size of a marble so all she needs are a few drops, not ounces, of milk. One more thing is, you can't possibly pump big amount of milk so early on, it takes lots and lots of pumping sessions to even start to see a few ounces. I never was able to pump more than 2 ounces at a time and I had PCOS when DD was a newborn. This was also after months of trying by the way. Some women's breasts don't respond well to pumps and the output you get from a pump isn't equivalent to what a baby can get out with their mouth.

I would suggest hiring a private lactation consultant. We had a very rough, very painful 2 weeks and my DD barely got anything out of me due to a bad latch and my PCOS. She did lose weight, so I tell you from experience that weightloss due to not eating doesn't happen overnight. I finally hired a lactation consultant who came one time, latched her on properly, weighed her before and after and the rest is history, she BF'd for 2.5 years. The hospital lactation consultant had given us the green light before we left by the way.

Don't beat yourself up hun. You are doing your best. Keep latching her on and the milk will come. She doesn't need much right now, in spite of what you may have been told :)

[GirlieCat]

Thank you all for the advice and support. I am taking it day by day. Most I have gotten in a single pumping session is just under an ounce both boobs combined. That is a lot though. Average is about half ounce or less. Baby has weigh in today so hopefully she will have gained a little with the supplemental.

Sparkles- I am thinking of you. Hoping your just too busy enjoying your baby boy to post an update.


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[purple]

Congrats dreamsister!

Great advice cosmosis :) Pumping really isn't a good indicator of supply. Also it is normal not to have much come out for the first 3-5 days, babies have tiny pea sized stomachs and are expected to lose some weight initially.

Also you can successfully breastfeed with PCOS. I'm exclusively breastfeeding my 3rd baby so I'm proof :) Good luck, it is hard at the start but it really does get easier in time!

[GirlieCat]

Sparkles- I am really getting concerned we haven't heard from you. Hoping everything is okay.


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[GirlieCat]

AFM- my milk has definitely increased. Last week we did the test where they weigh baby, then I breast feed for 20 min, then they weigh baby again and the difference was only about 6ml (meaning that is what she drank). Did it again today and she gained 37ml. Still not enough to satisfy her and have to supplement with formula, but getting better. I think if we formula/bottle fed only this would be a lot less stress but I am committed to keep trying the boob.


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[cosmosis]

Sounds like things are improving :) so glad to hear! Just keep in mind that breastmilk is made as much as it is being demanded. So if you supplement, you will make less milk and it is a tough cycle to break. I would suggest that you keep stimulating your breasts and pumping every time she supplements. Also, the baby will prefer the bottle anyday because it is much easier to suck milk out than it is to get it out of the breast, so if she gets fussy and frustrated at the breast, this will be a big reason why. Just so you know and you don't feel like there's something wrong with your body! :)

Here's a video that shows the muscles used by the baby to latch on to the breast (forward to 50 seconds): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zln0LTkejIs I find that it is very helpful to see things in action. Hope it helps somehow! :)

Also, here's some helpful info on pumping, it may help with increasing output :) What to Expect When Pumping &bull; KellyMom.com (http://kellymom.com/mother2mother/what-to-expect-when-pumping/)

[BabsNMK]

I'm worried about Sparkles too :( I keep thinking about her.

[GirlieCat]

Sounds like things are improving :) so glad to hear! Just keep in mind that breastmilk is made as much as it is being demanded. So if you supplement, you will make less milk and it is a tough cycle to break. I would suggest that you keep stimulating your breasts and pumping every time she supplements. Also, the baby will prefer the bottle anyday because it is much easier to suck milk out than it is to get it out of the breast, so if she gets fussy and frustrated at the breast, this will be a big reason why. Just so you know and you don't feel like there's something wrong with your body! :)

Here's a video that shows the muscles used by the baby to latch on to the breast (forward to 50 seconds): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zln0LTkejIs I find that it is very helpful to see things in action. Hope it helps somehow! :)

Also, here's some helpful info on pumping, it may help with increasing output :) What to Expect When Pumping • KellyMom.com (http://kellymom.com/mother2mother/what-to-expect-when-pumping/)


Thank you Cosmosis. I should clarify that we don't supplement with a bottle. She has never had a bottle. We use a little tube system that goes next to my nipple so she thinks she is drinking from boob but formula is coming from a container nearby via her sucking. And I only do that after she has had 20 minutes straight breast without tube so she is stimulating on her own. When I pump after she feeds I get only drops. If I pump before she feeds I get about an ounce.


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[cosmosis]

Thank you Cosmosis. I should clarify that we don't supplement with a bottle. She has never had a bottle. We use a little tube system that goes next to my nipple so she thinks she is drinking from boob but formula is coming from a container nearby via her sucking. And I only do that after she has had 20 minutes straight breast without tube so she is stimulating on her own. When I pump after she feeds I get only drops. If I pump before she feeds I get about an ounce.


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That's wonderful! Keep at it :) it will all work out!

[Kittybear]

Ladies I'm v worried about Mrs sparkles and her bubs... I keep coming back on here to check if she has posted an update... please if anyone hears from her just let me know if she is ok... thank you xx

[GirlieCat]

I was able to get an update from Sparkles...
She said her and baby are both well. She will post pictures and an update soon.


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[MrsSparkles]

Second attempt at a photo.

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Can't wait to see who's next!

Oh wow so beautiful. Those eyes are gorgeous

[MrsSparkles]

Hi ladies

I am so sorry to have worried you all.
Birth was amazing, but coming home was rough.

Girliecat and Dreamsister I have just seen your piccies and what beautiful babies you have made. Perfect name Girlie, really love it.

So the day of the csection I stood in the car park and told my husband I'm not going in.
That he would come when he was ready and I KNew the scans were wrong.
He begged me, and said what if this is our only chance of having a baby.
I started to think about how we had struggled to get here, and reluctantly made my way into the hospital.
My midwife met us there, and she let me hug on her in the OR.
Husband had to stay outside whilst spinal was administered.
I got to do my hypnobirthing whilst it was happening.
My favourite consultant did the section, and we all laughed and joked.
Then she said are you ready to meet him, lowered the screen and the feeling of love was indescribable. All I could see was white glitter and a big fat baby!
It was like a movie, you know the love scene where they first lock eyes.
He had this worrying high pitched acream, and sounded like an Eagle not a baby at all.
Later we sound out that he had been forceps and something had been damaged on his head and neck.
All the midwives in recovery commented that they had not heard anything like that for a while.
They told us he probably had a headache and to take him to an osteopath.
We stayed in the hospital less than 24 hours, and then took our 8.9lb baby home.
By the way I was wrong, the scan was right.
When they opened me up not a drop of fluid to be seen, the only thing that saved him was the fact that his cord was three times as thick, and wouldn't have got compressed in a month of Sunday's 😂
It's amazing how nature compensated.

After he came home, he fed for hours.
First day he fed for 22 hours. And my left boob is not functional due to tubular shape and some other things.
I pumped that one, and fed from the right.
But it wasn't enough. Like girlies daughter, he lost too much weight and started getting ready this red stuff in his diapers. Of which there were never more than three wet ones a day.
I was starving him 😢
Every day we have had people here to try and fix the problem, one of them finally suggested formula. After half a dozen strangers watched me feed him, said latch was perfect but that he doesn't swallow,all they could say was keep persevering.
The last lady made my husband run and get some ready made formula.
Baby drank that and expressed milk. In front of her.
In one and a half hours he totalled over 200ml, wasn't sick or anything.
He looked so happy after, and she told us. Offer the boob, forget about The damned left one, and express feed and top up with formula if you need to.
It's been two days since. And he was had 9 wet nappies yesterday, and already one this morning !
No more red stuff, and his jaundice is gone.
We had so much bad advice, I called La Leche League and they made me feel like a demon for even considering not breast feeding.
Sure that is not how they meant to come across,but a new mom with a sick baby is a sensitive creature.

Anyway. We are so happy now and absoloutkey in love, he is our perfect prince and looks just like Daddy !

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[Mummyof4boys]

Congrats Sparkles! So relieved you and Bub are ok :) He's so precious!!

[MrsSparkles]

Just read my post back.
So many typos, sorry about that lol.
Typing on my phone as I pump

[Dreamsister]

Sparkles, you are a Star. Huge congrats with your strong, charming little Prince. He looks so gorgeous. I am happy to hear you are both well after some hard days and that your boy is not starving anymore. I was also raised with formula and have never been sick or have never had allergies or anything else. Enjoy the first very magical weeks with your baby.


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[MrsSparkles]

Sparkles, you are a Star. Huge congrats with your strong, charming little Prince. He looks so gorgeous. I am happy to hear you are both well after some hard days and that your boy is not starving anymore. I was also raised with formula and have never been sick or have never had allergies or anything else. Enjoy the first very magical weeks with your baby.


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thank you for saying that!
I am determined to keep expressing and have hired a new hospital grade pump.
But I know that all that matters is he is fed.
Since he has been having expressed milk, he sleeps and doesn't cry as much.

By the way, my Mum came up for two days.
I know a few of us have Mummy issues on here lol. But I have to say, she's been awesome cooking/cleaning/showing us how to make life easier.
First time in my life that she's told me she's proud of me ��

[Kittybear]

I am SO relieved all is well with you and bubs Hun! :heart: I know what our NHS can be like when it comes to maternity, and I was starting to fear the worst... :(

He is absolutely gorgeous, a real little prince! Congratulations!!

Please, please, please, do NOT beat yourself up for supplementing with formula. I tried BF and I was crap both times (I had production issues sadly) so I combi fed both my boys and I beat myself up no end about it as I wanted to exclusively breast feed but that wasn't meant to be. They are both big and strong and clever and wonderful ;) anything he gets from you is brilliant, but ultimately, FED IS BEST :heart: my 3rd LO is due at the end of August and I have no great expectations regarding BF - if it works this time, great, if not, I will combo feed for as long as I can :)

Congratulations to all the ladies who have delivered so far :) xxx

[XXforhubby]

MrsSparkles- I'm so relieved to finally hear from you! I've been so worried about you and your sweet baby! I just want to say he is absolutely BEAUTIFUL!! My goodness is he GORGEOUS!

Do not beat yourself up at all about combo feeding! You are doing a fantastic job! He's thriving now and that is ALL that matters! You have to do what works for you both- and you're doing that. You're doing an amazing job [emoji8]!


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[BabsNMK]

Sparkles what a crazy ordeal for you! I'm so glad that he is healthy and you both are ok. I always was and still am a huge breast feeding advocate, but with my second son we ran into so many health problems and he ended up needing more than I could give. It crushed me to feed him formula the first time, but it also saved him. And I combo fed him the rest of his first year. Sometimes we are our own worst enemy but it sounds like you are doing amazing and have some great support behind you.

[GirlieCat]

Sparkles, as much as the situation sucks, it is nice knowing that we are both going through the same thing with the breast feeding. I cried the day the doctor said I basically had to start supplementing and giving baby girl formula in addition to my breast milk. I felt like I failed, but I have gotten used to it over the last week and it still sucks, but I feel comfort in knowing baby is getting what she needs.

So far though, only the breast feeding thing has been a challenge. The rest has been very easy and much easier than other people said it was going to be. I am not overly tired, she sleeps long stretches and I get lots done around the house and have been working part time from home everyday, I have bounced back physically too and I am even already down to less than my normal pre-pregnancy weight and wearing my normal jeans (in just 12 days!!). I still can't believe I am a mom though...that will take a while to set it. Hubby has been amazing and very helpful and supportive.

[Shannshaff]

Sparkles - I am so happy to hear from you. I too was getting quite worried. Wow you had such an ordeal. Sorry it has been so rough on you, but glad you got it all worked out. Everyone else has said it too, but I fully believe that you do what you have to do to get by and if that means formula - then by all means do it! Glad you finally found someone that gave some good advise.

Girlie - I am glad that you have found ways to feed baby girl and that are working for you. Wonderful to hear you are adjusting well to being a mom. :)

Everyone else I missed - So happy to see those beautiful babies!