12 weeks 2 days scan- Boy or Girl???

[JoannaK]

Hi,
Can anyone help if they can spot a boy or a girl??

Ultrasound video can be found here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg1uCqjUafU

[rainbowflower]

I'd guess girl

[JoannaK]

Thanks :)
Anyone else?

[ELP]

Girl guess from me too:)

[TTC5]

Tricky as it is curled but I am leaning girl too.

[Belle]

I think Girl. What are you hoping for?

[Flava]

Im guessing a :DD:

[JoannaK]

I think Girl. What are you hoping for?

I'm PRAYING for a girl! I have three boys so I was starting to think I physically couldn't procreate girls!

I'll know for sure in 20 days at my anatomy scan... fingers crossed

[JoannaK]

Bump anybody else?

[TTC5]

FX for you then! Did you sway?

[JoannaK]

Did nothing at all, after three boys I just assumed I could never carry a girl! The only thing I could think is that all three boys, we had DTD around ovulation date, this bub was miraculously conceived after DTD about 6 days before ovulation.. so maybe that might have helped?

btw, what is FX? Sorry, I'm definitely a newbie here!

[JoannaK]

Bump any other guesses please?:)

[Foxy]

Maybe girl. GL!

[JoannaK]

Any more guesses anybody?

[TTC5]

FX - fingers crossed (goodluck) xx

[JoannaK]

Is this photo more clear?

[nicnee1976]

Looks girly. Good luck to you. I too am hoping for a girl after 3 boys!!

[JoannaK]

Wonderful! Do you have any scans you want me to check out, anything to get my mind off my scan!!

[ELP]

New pic looks extrememly girly!! If you can post your vids on the youtube, we'd be happy to guess of them also:agree:

[JoannaK]

Hi, thanks for looking!

The video can be found here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pg1uCqjUafU

[JoannaK]

I've been told if you look at 6:12, there's a girly shot there?

[JoannaK]

Anybody else?

[TTC5]

Girl :)

[Coulditbemyturn]

looks like girl

[JoannaK]

9 more days until confirmation!!!!!!!!!

[TTC5]

Good luck!

[JoannaK]

Thanks, fingers crossed. I'll post updated pics once I know, since my nub shots were a little "on the fence", might make other people's agonising wait a little easier if they have a comparison!

[DoulaMama]

5 days to go!!! Excited to hear your news!!!

[JoannaK]

Thanks, I can't wait!! Will be updating as soon as I know. Would be so so weird to hear "girl" after THREE boys, though I'm sure it must be muh stranger for women to hear it after 4, 5, 6 boys!

[DoulaMama]

Update!!!!!????
ETA- I managed to get on IG and all I can say is I'm sooo sorry, Hun :( I cannot believe that this is happening to you. :tissue: I really hope that the u/s was wrong and that you find out that your baby is fine~ xo Much love to you xoxo

[TTC5]

Is everything ok??

[JoannaK]

Hey guys, I recognise most of your screen names from In-Gender, but thought I'll update on here as well. Sadly there's been problems and I'll be needing to have a hysterotomy (as soon as possible hopefully :( ).

They found something missing in the brain, holes in the placenta, a problem with one of the kidneys and something else, I somehow physically couldn't hear anymore once the specialist started rattling off all the problems..

Because there is such a long list of problems, the specialist suspects it's chromosomal, so they did an amnio today and I get the results back tomorrow, but at the end of the day, it's the same outcome. If I were to continue the pregnancy, the baby would suffer when he/she is born, so I know what has to be done, it's just DOING it that I want to get out of the way, and it's actually doing it that's going to be so hard.

Thanks for everybody's concern, I'll be keeping everyone updated as soon as we get the official diagnosis in, but after some quick reading, it looks like it's going to be a Trisomy abnormality (it's not Downs because the NT scan was clear)

xx

[nuthinbutpink]

I'm so sorry.

[zanacal]

I'm so very sorry. You'll be in my thoughts x

[JoannaK]

Thanks guys xx

[nuthinbutpink]

Thanks guys xx

Why did they not see any of this at your 12 weeks scan? If the baby has this many issues it just seems like some of this should have been picked up earlier and you could have done a CVS. The picture you posted is very blurry, was their machine that poor? I am so sorry you are going through this. I hope you get some answers.

[JoannaK]

Hi, Well yeah I've wondered the same thing. I asked why they didn't pick up the brain issue at the 12 week scan, and the doctor said because at 12 weeks, the brain only has a few simple structures laid out, and that the problem hadn't had time to develop yet.

But I had always had a funny feeling about the guy who did my scan because you're right, the video and pictures were really blurry and he didn't seem really familiar with things, which is strange because it's one of the most hi-tech specialist centres in Brisbane.

So there'll always be that 'what if' factor.. And obviously I just keep going over in my head, what have I done, did I eat something wrong, what can I do to prevent it next time. All I've ever wanted is a big family and I just have no idea how I can continue that wish on

[TTC5]

Oh my gosh J, I am so so sorry!!! :'( My heart is breaking for you xxxxx

[maybeoneday]

I am so sorry to hear your news. You will be in my thoughts and prayers. Please don't blame yourself, a chromosonal problem is not your fault. I will also be hoping you don't need a hysterectomy and in time, you will TTC again. x

[JoannaK]

I'll have to have a hysterotomy, so they won't remove the uterus (hysterectomy), they just cut through it. I'm just worried for the recovery, I'm having the specialist call me soon with the amnio results, and I'm just scared of how painful the recovery will be, in comparison to a normal C section (which ive had two of)

[TTC5]

What is a hysterotomy? big hugs and prayers again xxx

[TTC5]

I googled it, it's okxxxxxxxx I'm sorry you have to go through all this :'(

[maybeoneday]

Oh sorry, I misred your previous post. I hope you have a lot of supportive friends and family that can help you and you have a super speedy recovery. I also hope your doctor will be able to answer your questions when they call. Will be thinking of you. x

[nuthinbutpink]

Hi, Well yeah I've wondered the same thing. I asked why they didn't pick up the brain issue at the 12 week scan, and the doctor said because at 12 weeks, the brain only has a few simple structures laid out, and that the problem hadn't had time to develop yet.

But I had always had a funny feeling about the guy who did my scan because you're right, the video and pictures were really blurry and he didn't seem really familiar with things, which is strange because it's one of the most hi-tech specialist centres in Brisbane.

So there'll always be that 'what if' factor.. And obviously I just keep going over in my head, what have I done, did I eat something wrong, what can I do to prevent it next time. All I've ever wanted is a big family and I just have no idea how I can continue that wish on

Most issues like this have nothing to do with anything you or DH did or didn't do. Nothing. It's a random occurence and I would just ask if there is any testing you need to have done but we have even seen babies with serious issues from HT that required an early termination so it just happens. No reason. It does seem like issues with major organs should have been seen earlier though. I'm sorry.

[DoulaMama]

Thinking of you, Joanna. I honestly can't imagine:( my thoughts and prayers are with you as you go through such tough times. xoxo

[purplepoet20]

I am so sorry. That is horrible news!

[JoannaK]

I've just had a call from the specialist, and they've got the amnio results in. Basically the baby is triploidy, meaning it has 3 sets of chromosomes instead of two, and that's been caused by 2 sperm attaching itself to the egg. It's amazing that the pregnancy has lasted this far and that I didn't miscarry early, but there you go..

What it means is that given what the baby is missing in the brain, it is just not compatible with life, meaning as soon as it's detached from my body, be it at 20 weeks, or full term, it's going to die. The specialist said if I were to continue the pregnancy, I would be putting my health in jeopardy, and I'd be at serious risk of hypertension.

He also mentioned that in Australia, we do things differently to that of Europe, just like Europe would do things differently to America, and so on, so we have different procedures for different regions of the world, and this is just the procedure that's done here, I know no different than what I've been told, and I'm trusting my doctor.

The good news is that triploidy ISN'T genetic, so it's nothing that my husband or I have done, though my husband has gone downhill quite badly since getting the phone call, because he believes it's his fault because it was two of his sperm that got to my egg etc.

But the dr said all things going well, 3 months after the procedure is done (and he wants it done asap, it will probably happen mid to late next week), we can try again, and are encouraged to do so, should we wish. And I would love to, whether or not I'll have the guts to is a different story, but we'll cross that bridge when we come to it



Thanks again to everybody for the beautiful words, that have helped me and my family so much, and I don't think I'd be managing to the level I am at the moment without your support

xxo

PS, irony of everything, the bub is a boy! lol. so I've had about 35 people look at my 12 week scan and say girl, so there you have it. I actually feel slightly "better" knowing he's a boy, because even if I was told the gender of the baby had nothing to do with it, if the bub had been a girl, I know I would forever be terrified of trying for a girl again and getting the same outcome

[TTC5]

Big big hugs, and glad you got your answers/results. Wishing you a speedy recovery and sending healing loving thoughts your way xxx

[JoannaK]

Thanks TTC5 xx
I just want whatever needs to happen happen, and move on to trying again, I just want another healthy pregnancy and baby, I love being pregnant :(

[DoulaMama]

Joanna- Wow, that is so much to take in :( I can't imagine the emotional pain right now. It must be nice, in some way, to know that it wasn't your fault in any way. Most times it isn't anything we do...but I can imagine the "what-ifs" that go floating through your mind. It must be torture:( I'm so sorry that you hubby is feeling that way. Is the recovery faster than a section? Did your Dr's give you an idea of how long you should recover before trying again? I hope that everything goes well with your surgery and I will be thinking healing thoughts for you, Mama~ xo Much love to you~~

[JoannaK]

Hi DoulaMama,
Well the Dr said that recovery shouldn't be as bad, because the incision they make is a lot smaller than my previous incisions from the full term pregnancies, and the upside of not having to worry about breastfeeding is that I won't have to worry about which painkillers go through the milk, so I can take whatever is needed for the pain. But he says the recovery time is shorter- likewise with things like the milk coming in, they'll give me things to stop it coming in, but at 20 weeks, there's very little milk there anyway. Similarly, and my biggest fear being will I have the normal baby blues and hormonal fluctuations, he said I shouldn't go through that, because my hormones aren't at the peak where they would be at 40 weeks, so the fluctuations shouldn't be as severe.
They say a 3 month wait before trying again, and I've been going back and forth in my head whether I'd have the guts to try again, but I think since I've been told it's not genetic, that has made me feel better, and it's made me start thinking I'd like to try again as soon as I could

xx

[TTC5]

Thanks TTC5 xx
I just want whatever needs to happen happen, and move on to trying again, I just want another healthy pregnancy and baby, I love being pregnant :(

You will have your healthy baby, don't you worry about that. This little man will be watching over youxxxxxx

[DoulaMama]

You will have your healthy baby, don't you worry about that. This little man will be watching over youxxxxxx

Yes! I 100% agree with TTC 5:HH:

How are you doing, Mama? I've been thinking about you a lot~ How is your hubby? And your kiddos? xxoo

[TTC5]

Stopping by to let you know I have been thinking of you all xoxoxo

[JoannaK]

Thankyou so much everybody

[Glittergirl]

Thinking of you....posted on the other site but just wanted to check in.

[mrsj]

So very sorry to hear your news. Praying for you.

[JoannaK]

Thankyou. I have to go to hospital tomorrow afternoon for the surgery. And I'm going to the same hospital that my last two babies were born, and that my future babies will be born. So I'm hoping that's not going to hurt me too much. At this point, I just want to go in and get this done, and start all over again and try for a healthy pregnancy and put this behind me, as much as I possibly can. And I'm so sick of having people's opinions affect me so badly (not opinions on any forums, but friends that I know personally, sadly)

I would have thought I'd have some kind of understanding, but I guess none of my friends have been in this situation and I"m trying to just think about it from that perspective. I just hope that I'm not a weird person, or that I"m wrong to plan for and hope for another pregnancy asap, because honest to god it's the only way I'm getting through this right now :(