Newbie TTC a boy :)

[Teigan93]

Hi everyone :)
My name is Teigan, I'm a newbie here on gender dreaming and think I am slightly addicted to reading anything remotely blue sway related! I'm an Aussie so would love to hear from anyone and everyone but in particular any Aussies trying to sway blue just so we can share resources :)

I am after any advice you lovely ladies have on how to create the perfect sway! In terms of best foods to eat, supplements to take, how to raise hormone levels and any other swaying blue tips you may have!

Thanks heaps guys! This place is awesome!
xx

[MiaMelb]

Hey Tiegan. Yay a fellow Aussie blue swayer!!! Must admit I found myself pretty addicted to reading Atomic's essays when I first found this site. When are you ttc? We are just in pre sway mode at the moment with intentions to ttc this time next year. Come and join the daily boy sway forum.

[LMSM]

Welcome Tiegan!
Where in Oz are you?
I am in Brissie :)

We have 2 girls, swaying blue too - and 1st attempt probably next month !
Will get you together some of the stuff I have compiled - but Atomic also put together a very very comprehensive essay on diet, supps lifestyle etc - so if you haven't read it I say give it a go, will try to find you the link ;)

[MiaMelb]

Welcome Tiegan!
Where in Oz are you?
I am in Brissie :)

We have 2 girls, swaying blue too - and 1st attempt probably next month !
Will get you together some of the stuff I have compiled - but Atomic also put together a very very comprehensive essay on diet, supps lifestyle etc - so if you haven't read it I say give it a go, will try to find you the link ;)

Sorry just to hijack this thread for a sec. LMSM which supps have you been recommended (if you don't mind sharing) and have you been able to find them all in Oz? There seems to be a lot of supp options and many I've never heard of and aren't sure if they're even readily available here. GL with your first attempt too, exciting.

[Teigan93]

Oh how exciting :) we aren't setting an exact time on TTC as in not sure when I will be ready to give up nursing my littlest girl (she is only 7 months old) so I would say we will be TTC probably around the same time as you when my cycle kicks back into gear xx

[Teigan93]

I'm in a tiny town it's near Wagga Wagga in NSW :)
Oh best of luck with your 1st attempt, try to keep me updated on how you go! xx
Thanks you so much you are a legend!

[LMSM]

@MiaMelb
No highjack at all darl ;)
Which ones are you referring to that you couldn’t find?
I looked at the L-Arginine supp and found it on some health stores online but gave up – too expensive, and it appears it can mess with O so def not for me :P
Because of my ovulation issues I initially considered taking Vitex too (have some left) but Atomic said to hold off as it tends to mess with cycles more than anything – but was looking at getting some Inositol but it is super exxy and seems it may sway pink anyways – can’t win when you’re one sub-fertile blue swayer it seems so will have to rely heavily on diet and exercise I think (gah)!

I am taking Blackmore prenatal/breastfeeding multi (all cycle)
Additional folic acid (all cycle)
CQ10 (all cycle)
EPO (AF-O)
Fish oil (all cycle)
Wheatgrass powder super high in vit C – take it every few days because (it tastes foul so mix it with juice and gulp in down as quick as I can – but I think you can get tablets too)
All of which I found at Chemist’s warehouse ;)

Also, to avoid supplementing in vit D – trying to go out and get some sun every day – though not always easy with a busy office job and autumn/winter around the corner, with shorter days!
I probably will look at getting some Robitussin to help with EWCM for the attempt too – I do have Preseed at home failing that though I know natural mucus is the best ^^
Hubby is taking a men’s multi – and I try to get him to eat some of the good stuff for sperm health: nuts (especially brazil nuts are full of selenium!) and zinc rich foods. Plus he going back to the gym after a loooong break and doing weights so hopefully that will get him in a better condition :D

Sorry – long winded so not sure if that helps at all? :P

@ Teigan
Oh your bub is only tiny :) is she your first or do you have other kids?
Some women are fertile even with nursing, and if you otherwise do other sawying techniques (diet etc) that will alleviate the slight pink lean nursing gives… so don’t feel like you have to stop nursing for swaying, if you do want to keep nursing, that is ;)
I just stopped nursing DD2 a few weeks ago at 17 m.o – boobie monster she was! Lol
My cycles had returned long before that though – but I have fertility issues and seems I don’t really ovulate (both my girls were conceived with fertility treatments): am waiting on the last blood tests we did to hear back from the fertility specialist to see what the go is though – but am hoping it will ok for us to try naturally and we can go ahead as planned!! :D

I know of Wagga Wagga – never been there though hehe

I’m off to eat my full of eggs salad with coconut juice on the side for lunch – have a great day ladies!

[LMSM]

Also read this guys if you haven't had a chance ;)
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-boy/23576-ttc-boy-library.html

[MiaMelb]

Also read this guys if you haven't had a chance ;)
http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-boy/23576-ttc-boy-library.html

How have I been trawling this site for months and not seen this library? Sure some of it is repeats from other places but that'll be some good reading. Thanks.

[LMSM]

How have I been trawling this site for months and not seen this library? Sure some of it is repeats from other places but that'll be some good reading. Thanks.

I have no credit, the index for all this is in a link in Atomic's signature so I saw it early on when I first stumbled across this website .. it is good as it has all the info in one place :wink::wink:

[LMSM]

Mia just realised that you were asking me which sups I had been recommended, not which ones I could find in Oz..duh!
Sorry, am'one vey sleep deprived mumma ATM! :oops:
I haven't got a plan, but when I did get some feedback on my initial thoughts for my sway by Atomic, I will find the link for you if you want to have a little read ;)
Édited to add link: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-boy/57442-ttc-blue-few-months-advice-my-plan-d.html

[boywish]

Hi Teigan93 fellow Aussie blue swayer here too.
We are planning to formally TTC #2 next month but got carried away slightly this month so will see what happens [emoji1]
The forum has some great info and resources and the members are great at provide guidance, feedback and support. Good luck with your sway!

[dancingdiva88]

I'm another blue Aussie swayer. This will be a first cycle TTC after 3-4 months on the diet. Just some info about taking EPO and fish oil. Be careful that your EPO intake is not more than your fish oil milligrams per day. This is atomic's advice except I can't remember why - the reason is on here somewhere.
I ended up cutting it out completely in the end and found grapefruit juice and lemon water gives me lots of EWCM.
Currently day 11 but I don't O until the 20s.
Good luck with your sways and attempts!!

[LMSM]

Hey Dancingdiva!good to see you here! We are almost in synch, am on cd13 today :agree: hope you catch that blue at first attempt!! :bluesperm:
Re EPO and Fish oil, I remember reading that somewhere too, now can't recall why either �� I actually haven't started on the Epo yet but not sure I will, will depend on my fertility specialist's call and the state of (fertility) affairs in coming days...
I have been soooo bad with supps, and exercise, really have to up the ante now and truly get into it seriously :whip:

Tiegan, will get you my diet up in coming days, maybe tomorrow if I get the chance, will give you an idea ;)

Cheers

[LMSM]

Hi Teigan93 fellow Aussie blue swayer here too.
We are planning to formally TTC #2 next month but got carried away slightly this month so will see what happens [emoji1]
The forum has some great info and resources and the members are great at provide guidance, feedback and support. Good luck with your sway!
Hi boy wish!
When will you know if this cycle worked or if you are on track for your 1st attempt as planned next month?
:)

[Throwaway_panther]

Re: EPO and fish oil. Animal fats sway more blue, as do omega 3s. EPO is a non-animal fat that is rich in omega 6s. EPO has some fertility components for how it affects hormones, the cervix, CM, etc., but keeping the ratio in favor of more animal fat/omega 3 is what keeps it more blue.

This is from what I understand. I think EPO is a more old school sway tactic hence why it's still around and I know atomic has recommended dropping it for several people after failed sways, so if you were to include it, you'd definitely probably want to keep on the fish oil.

[boywish]

Hi boy wish!
When will you know if this cycle worked or if you are on track for your 1st attempt as planned next month?
:)

Hi LMSM I should probably know by the end of this week.. I got a bfp very early with my DD so will be interesting to see what happens this time. If not successful we can be cycle buddies for next month [emoji4]

[LMSM]

Re: EPO and fish oil. Animal fats sway more blue, as do omega 3s. EPO is a non-animal fat that is rich in omega 6s. EPO has some fertility components for how it affects hormones, the cervix, CM, etc., but keeping the ratio in favor of more animal fat/omega 3 is what keeps it more blue.

This is from what I understand. I think EPO is a more old school sway tactic hence why it's still around and I know atomic has recommended dropping it for several people after failed sways, so if you were to include it, you'd definitely probably want to keep on the fish oil.

Thanks Panther ;) I knew I had read that somewhere! ;) I’m still undecided with the whole EPO thing anyways – I can’t for the life of me remember if it helped my cycles or not when trying with DD1. Now that I am not nursing any more at all (I miss my bewbs though lol), I am back on the full dose of fish oil so hopefully that will be good enough and since that is Omega 3’s we should be on the right side of the fence, sway wise :D
How are your treatments/tests going?

[LMSM]

Hi LMSM I should probably know by the end of this week.. I got a bfp very early with my DD so will be interesting to see what happens this time. If not successful we can be cycle buddies for next month [emoji4]
Hi Boywish,

That’s exciting either way! Are you hoping for AF then so you can do your attempt as planned or not? Or in two minds about it? :D
I’m now CD14 and pretty close to O I think but we got carried away too…3 times since Friday ..oops lol So I guess we shall see – I am almost tempted to just BD unprotected once we get the +opk, so that if it leads to pregnancy I have done my best BD wise – though I would prefer AF to just show up so that I can be doing things diligently on all other points too! :P

[boywish]

Hi Boywish,

That’s exciting either way! Are you hoping for AF then so you can do your attempt as planned or not? Or in two minds about it? :D
I’m now CD14 and pretty close to O I think but we got carried away too…3 times since Friday ..oops lol So I guess we shall see – I am almost tempted to just BD unprotected once we get the +opk, so that if it leads to pregnancy I have done my best BD wise – though I would prefer AF to just show up so that I can be doing things diligently on all other points too! :P

I'm not sure what I'm hoping for to be honest - if AF does come I'll be excited to be pregnant however I know I'll be nervous to find out gender. If AF doesn't come at least I can say no matter the gender I tried all I could.
Oh looks like you are in a similar situation [emoji4]if you b'd those 3 times unprotected I'd probably do every 2nd day till + opk then the 3 attempts (but my thinking could be totally wrong in that).
I hear you in being diligent on the other points - there's always something isn't there [emoji4]

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi and welcome! Come join us in the TTC a boy forums and I can help!

[atomic sagebrush]

Re supps:

Just want to reiterate I think it's really a VERY bad idea to take the l-arg for ladies....give to your hubs only. REally made people's cycles go crazy and quite a lot of the gals taking it in our first year got girls.

Re Vit. D, I strongly suggest supplementing with it. I got my last two boys taking 1000 IU a day and then dropped that to get my girl. I know some sites say it sways pink, but I have seen zero evidence that indicated that is the case and much, much observational data that indicates D sways blue.

[atomic sagebrush]

How have I been trawling this site for months and not seen this library? Sure some of it is repeats from other places but that'll be some good reading. Thanks.

Yes the library is repeats from other stuff but it's one after the other, so you can sit down with a cup of tea (if swaying blue) or coffee (if swaying pink) and read them all at once instead of messing around opening and shutting a bunch of threads. :)

[atomic sagebrush]

I'm another blue Aussie swayer. This will be a first cycle TTC after 3-4 months on the diet. Just some info about taking EPO and fish oil. Be careful that your EPO intake is not more than your fish oil milligrams per day. This is atomic's advice except I can't remember why - the reason is on here somewhere.
I ended up cutting it out completely in the end and found grapefruit juice and lemon water gives me lots of EWCM.
Currently day 11 but I don't O until the 20s.
Good luck with your sways and attempts!!


:agree: and if you have ANY doubt in your mind about whether you're eating/taking MORE veg based fats than animal based fats, DROP the EPO. This includes milk replacers!!!

We have had several animal studies that seemed to show that when mammals were given higher % of veg based fats than animal based fats, they had more girls. So we are taking great care to avoid high intake of vegetable oils, inc. EPO. I am actually using EPO less and less. I think it can sway blue for people but only if they are ingesting more animal fats than the amount of fish oil.

Re the milk replacers, I want to really stress this: Milk replacers are all loaded with vegetable fats. I feel like I've seen quite a few people get opposites and the only seeming commonality was they were taking EPO but then also having a high intake of milk replacers. People don't realize how much veg oil you're really getting in them. So if you're taking EPO drop the milk replacers, do only full fat dairy instead.

[agmegs02]

Hi! I am new as well and also swaying for a boy. We have two girls already and really hope boy for this round...might try in the next few months, to October time frame. Can you send me the link as well? I am also still trying to figure all of this out, so doing my best!
Meghan
Thanks for any information you can provide!!!

[LMSM]

I'm not sure what I'm hoping for to be honest - if AF does come I'll be excited to be pregnant however I know I'll be nervous to find out gender. If AF doesn't come at least I can say no matter the gender I tried all I could.
Oh looks like you are in a similar situation [emoji4]if you b'd those 3 times unprotected I'd probably do every 2nd day till + opk then the 3 attempts (but my thinking could be totally wrong in that).
I hear you in being diligent on the other points - there's always something isn't there [emoji4]
Exactly same thoughts as you haha
Got my positive opk last night so pretty sure O is for today - :nails: we didn't BD last night - and now am in two minds - I'm inclined to just not BD at all and hope I don't get pregnant - would be ironic for me to fall pregnant in one go, just when I actually don't really want to,after being so infertile :P
Ah decisions decisions!

[LMSM]

Hi! I am new as well and also swaying for a boy. We have two girls already and really hope boy for this round...might try in the next few months, to October time frame. Can you send me the link as well? I am also still trying to figure all of this out, so doing my best!
Meghan
Thanks for any information you can provide!!!

Welcome Meghan!

[LMSM]

:agree: and if you have ANY doubt in your mind about whether you're eating/taking MORE veg based fats than animal based fats, DROP the EPO. This includes milk replacers!!!

We have had several animal studies that seemed to show that when mammals were given higher % of veg based fats than animal based fats, they had more girls. So we are taking great care to avoid high intake of vegetable oils, inc. EPO. I am actually using EPO less and less. I think it can sway blue for people but only if they are ingesting more animal fats than the amount of fish oil.

Re the milk replacers, I want to really stress this: Milk replacers are all loaded with vegetable fats. I feel like I've seen quite a few people get opposites and the only seeming commonality was they were taking EPO but then also having a high intake of milk replacers. People don't realize how much veg oil you're really getting in them. So if you're taking EPO drop the milk replacers, do only full fat dairy instead.

:cool: Thanks for repeating it here too Atomic -
Personally have decided no EPO at all for me - just fish oil, prenatal multi, wheatgrass, CQ10 and that's it for supps for me! :P
Here in Oz, though it is raining this week, although it is technically autumn, we still get a fair bit of sunshine so hope that will enough vit D hehe

[LMSM]

Yes the library is repeats from other stuff but it's one after the other, so you can sit down with a cup of tea (if swaying blue) or coffee (if swaying pink) and read them all at once instead of messing around opening and shutting a bunch of threads. :)
That's exactly what I did at the time - and still is my go to if I have doubt about anything :D

[LMSM]

Hi everyone :)
My name is Teigan, I'm a newbie here on gender dreaming and think I am slightly addicted to reading anything remotely blue sway related! I'm an Aussie so would love to hear from anyone and everyone but in particular any Aussies trying to sway blue just so we can share resources :)

I am after any advice you lovely ladies have on how to create the perfect sway! In terms of best foods to eat, supplements to take, how to raise hormone levels and any other swaying blue tips you may have!

Thanks heaps guys! This place is awesome!
xx

Hi Teigan,

I promised I would post an idea of meals so here goes! ;) thought I would post here for ease of reference for you (rather than seek in the TTC threads – have you started participating in them already? One is called the TTC blue daily chat ^^)

If you can pre-prep snacks and meals ready to go then that is the best – I am gearing towards that - ideas of what I have done ^^ you don’t have to do massive portions each time, just enough to keep your BS levels stable.

Brekkie:
Oat porridge with FF milk and sliced banana and cashew butter
Wholemeal toast with scrambled cheesy eggs and avocado
Wholemeal savoury muffin
I often drink a black tea with a dash of FF milk – and if I can, glass of juice

Drinks:
Green tea (I can’t stomach it so do Rooibos tea instead or black tea with FF milk)
Lemon or lime water (like 2L/day)
Red raspberry leaf tea
Coconut water (I have at least a large glass/day)
Vege juice (I hear V8 is good but can’t down the stuff)
Wheatgrass juice (I mix this powder with apple or coconut juice, blitz it up and gulp in one go – it taste foul but try to do it every morning)

Snacks:
- Making a big batch of hommous (blitz until smooth: chickpeas, lemon juice, garlic, salt, hint of chili, olive oil) :and dividing it into portions (can freeze too if you thaw portion needed slowly in fridge overnight). Pack in a tupperware with carrot or celery sticks (which you can cut in advance and can keep for a few days in fridge) - A similar dip is done with cannelloni beans – and is super smooth and satisfying! Allows for some protein and carb in a healthy format ^^
- Portion of greek yogurt - with handful of almonds on the side – or dip pieces of fruit in it for more fibre (apple, pear or banana are yum)
- I pack a mixed bag of nuts (almonds, walnuts mainly) with dried apricots – and snack on those together: curbs the sweet cravings whilst satisfying esp. if a bit hungry
- When I feel extra indulgent – I snack on little pretzels dipped in my cashew butter - :P
- Apparently Larabars are good options too – seems they are made mainly of dates and nuts – so worthwhile having some when on the go and if feeling like a sweet fix! You could also do your own granola bars (when I was b/fing I made these: oats, nuts, seeds, honey, coconut, brewers’ yeast – the honey sweetens and keeps it all together – could find you the recipe if inclined. You could probably even use rice malt syrup instead? I baked it then cut up in squares that I froze and a little go in the microwave and they were ready to eat again – very filling and nutrient dense ^^).
- Cheese - crackers and apple slices
- Low GI banana/walnut bread – could be served with some cream cheese or butter
- Cut up orange or grapefruit with handful of nuts
- Handful of cherry tomatoes with wholemeal crackers
- Piece of dark 70% chocolate with nuts (I do that as my post dinner snack)

Meals:
- Slow cooked meats (chicken, pork, beef all are easy for this) : depending on what you feel like:
o Moroccan inspired: ras el ranout spices with dried apricots/raisins – I usually add some tomatoes, zucchini and eggplant – and chickpeas. Serve with couscous
o Mexican style: tomatoes, beans and taco style spices – serve with fresh coriander and a dollop of yogurt with a side of brown rice for instance
o Russian style: in cream based sauce, onions, mushrooms etc – (beef stroganoff style) – fresh pasta would be yum with this if you want a comforting dish
All these freeze really well (I usually shred the meat so it soaks up any sauce too so extra tender!) – so I can dig it out and just cook some quinoa or other grain with it ^^
- Wholemeal pasta with mince beef sauce
- Stir fry veg (lots of leafy greens and colourful veg – such as capsicum) – with lemongrass beef/chicken strips – tasty and light!
- I often do a pork fillet (sealed on pan first) basted in Dijon mustard, and covered with rashers of bacon -> oven until cooked well – it is indulgent but I serve it with leafy greens and roasted veg (pumpkin, sweet potato etc). Never have leftovers of this, everyone has seconds
- Grilled or steamed salmon (max twice a week) – fresh lemon squeezed on top with asparagus/ green beans, sweet potato mash on the side. Great for leftovers too for lunch
- Quiche – a great way to get eggs in: make a lot of individual ones (with whichever kind of filling you fancy) or big ones if meant for the whole family – will fill you up and satisfy if hungry– serve with leafy greens salad and voila! ^^ They freeze great too
- Eggs sandwich or wrap (wholemeal/wholegrain is best) or as a salad – I cut it up and mix with fresh tomato and a tad of hommous (better and more nutritious than mayo if you are weight conscious) . Might add a small can of tuna to bulk it up too - I just can’t do boiled eggs on their own :P
- Grilled meat plus big bowl of spinach salad (you could add pomegranate seed, ****s of apple or pear walnuts, cheese ****s etc)
- Meaty soup (not a big fan myself so wouldn’t be able to :P )

At some point was making this bread (and will get back to it) you could make it minus the seeds (which shouldn’t be eaten in large quantities for the sway)? Life Changing Loaf of Bread - My Green Lunchbox it is nutritious, sooooo easy to make and versatile

You should ensure you never go hungry to keep those BS levels up - and I found breaking up the supps over the day makes it easier to down them too :)
Ideally you should eat something whitin 30 min of getting up (even if you can't do brekkie straight away at least get a little bite to raise your BS levels after a night of fasting whilst sleeping - like a handful of nuts and a glass of juice ;) )

Full brekkie - mid morning snack
Lunch
Mid arvo snack
Dinner
Post dinner snack

Drink heaps - water or lemon water is great to have at hand :)
This should allow your body to never go hungry or dip its BS levels

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi! I am new as well and also swaying for a boy. We have two girls already and really hope boy for this round...might try in the next few months, to October time frame. Can you send me the link as well? I am also still trying to figure all of this out, so doing my best!
Meghan
Thanks for any information you can provide!!!

What link are you talking about?

[LMSM]

What link are you talking about?

Assuming the one I referred to, which can found via your signature in the index? ;)

[atomic sagebrush]

Yeah, ok - I didn't send any links, it's in my signature. :)

[agmegs02]

Yikes, I am really confused. (Sorry) I am currently taking the CoQ10, Fish Oil (800), Evening Primrose Oil (1300), Vitamin D3, and a probiotic, as well as the guafestine - I feel like I read that this was suggested somewhere. I read that I should also take my folic acid, take the alka seltzer gold (to replace the baking soda drink), and drink gelatin once a day or so. My tribulis is also on the way. I feel like a drug cabinet. Any suggestions on what I really could cut out, or what I need to absolutely take and how much each day? Thanks!! I am really only taking these once a day because this just seems like so much. Can someone break down amounts needed each day? Is there a chart reference that can be accessed with amounts etc?

[agmegs02]

I think I was referring to the link for TTC a boy and the supplements. I was SUPER brand new to the site. I have stumbled around and found some things now. =) Probably gone overboard, even.

[ChezIBY]

I look forward to reading the reply to your post cause I'm a newbie and have never really taken any sups either (except fish oil a while back) so am also confused about the when, how and how much ;)

[atomic sagebrush]

Ag I'm going to cover this in your plan but:

We have new studies that show that Fish oil MUST be taken in larger amounts than EPO. And I'm actually moving away from the EPO anyway as I feel we've had more opposites than I like...since we have that info that shows more animal fats than vegetable fats sway blue, I wonder if the EPO is just upping the veg. fats too far for people.

Tribulus I feel there's too much conflicting info on. Do not recommend

Alka Seltzer, I feel is not safe, if you must use it just do it 1x per day around your attempt

[agmegs02]

Thank you, I am open to your ideas and will do whatever you recommend! =) No problem not taking all this stuff! I am open to hearing just what you recommend I do!

[dancingdiva88]

I dropped the EPO and found I got lots of EWCM with the HE diet and lemon water alone. As in never had so much before in my life! I'm due to O soon (next 2ish days??) on our first attempt and really recommend getting the lemon water into you. I used EPO with TTC my first because of being on clomid which dried me up. Yes the EPO gave me a little bit of mucus but I should've been on the lemon water!!

[agmegs02]

Question - how much do you recommend the full fat dairy? I'm trying to eat one Brown Cow Yogurt each day...is this a good thing or bad thing for swaying boy? I keep hearing conflicting dairy information. Thanks!

[atomic sagebrush]

I believe it is a very good thing. I got all 4 of my boys with a very high dairy intake and dropped it all to get my girl.

I have an essay about the conflicting info re calcium in this thread: http://genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/610-calcium-conundrum-controversial.html (this is actually 3 parts, the 1st and the 3rd are must reads)