Soy Iso or Vitex?

[Cnerwin]

Ok, so I have read all (I think) of the posts on soy isoflavones and am still unsure as to whether they are supposed to sway boy or girl more. I had planned to take this to sway for girl and twins if possible, as my health is forcing this to be our last baby. However, if the soy sways more boy I do not want to endanger my sway. If it does, should I do Vitex instead? Despite my cycles being sorta regular (24-28 days)? I won't be swaying til the beginning of June, so if it affects my cycle I may have time to quit it before my June cycle begins and switch to the soy? Help me please lol.

Anyone take soy isos and get a girl?

[atomic sagebrush]

That's because no one knows how they sway. Since we don't totally know why swaying works, there is evidence pointing both ways and we honestly are not sure.

19 people took soy iso, 11 got girls. So better than 50-50 barely, but a coin flip really. Vitex is about 55% with a bigger sample size. Neither of them guarantees twins, both cause tons of trouble. Both are lower than overall success rates of the site.

I would NOT rely on soy iso for twins. That's the tthing. If they worked for twins that would be one thing, but I've seen tons of people try them and not get twins. If you really want twins you need Clomid (and that actually DOES sway pink)

Weirdly, even without vitex, SI, or Clomid, pink swayers have had more twins conceived anyway for reasons we can only guess at. So just by swaying pink you may help your chances some.

[Cnerwin]

Well....Dang lol. So, is either worth a try if I'm doing the diet and one attempt? For twins or (more importantly) swaying pink? I'm pretty sure my OB won't prescribe clomid as I haven't had fertility issues. It took a year for my first but then just one slip for my second ;) haha.

I'm trying to sort through all the information to parse out the most important/effective without obsessing. Though, considering how many of my questions you've seen lately, I may be failing lol.

As always, thank you for your hard work and time!!

[atomic sagebrush]

It's up to you to decide. When I honestly don't know, I hate giving you guys guesses because it's really me just pulling an answer out of my butt LOL.

What you have to do is weigh the hope/possibility that they sway pink and/or twins, vs. the possibility that they sway blue (soy iso) and that that will mess up your cycles (both soy iso and vitex)

[Cnerwin]

It's up to you to decide. When I honestly don't know, I hate giving you guys guesses because it's really me just pulling an answer out of my butt LOL.

What you have to do is weigh the hope/possibility that they sway pink and/or twins, vs. the possibility that they sway blue (soy iso) and that that will mess up your cycles (both soy iso and vitex)
Thank you! I truly appreciate your honesty. I'm going to mull it over and pray on it! :)

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[Lolabelle]

Hi cnerwin! I was hoping for twins and tried soy isoflavones when ttc both babies, but I wasn't swaying at the time. I always wished I could get a clomid prescription lol. With SI, I did not get twins and have 2 boys now (which I love dearly). I'm trying vitex this time around and we'll see if it helps my girl sway. GL to you!



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[Cnerwin]

I just found out my best friend has leftover Femara she is tempting me with. I may try a low dose of it in June after lots of research. Thank you for your input lolabelle!! I've honestly not read many accounts at all of it causing twins, though have read some evidence of it being really helpful when used in conjunction with Clomid! I would do that but I would probably have sextuplets 😂😳

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[Lolabelle]

Lol-that would be out of control. I don't know if I would ever be able to get my hands on clomid.....I just had my boys back to back instead. GL if you decide to use femara! I'm curious to know! I've heard the chances of twins isn't as high as clomid, but does it sway pink?

[Cnerwin]

I've read from atomic here that it does sway pink but with a lower chance of twins. I'm hoping there may still be a slightly higher chance of twins since I have ovulated normally before. My boys were right on top of each other too lol. This next one will be over 2 years difference but it is on a necessary time frame.

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[Lolabelle]

You'll have to come back and update if it helped you get a girl...or even better twin girls! :) FX for you!

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi cnerwin! I was hoping for twins and tried soy isoflavones when ttc both babies, but I wasn't swaying at the time. I always wished I could get a clomid prescription lol. With SI, I did not get twins and have 2 boys now (which I love dearly). I'm trying vitex this time around and we'll see if it helps my girl sway. GL to you!



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Thanks so much for this!

[atomic sagebrush]

I just found out my best friend has leftover Femara she is tempting me with. I may try a low dose of it in June after lots of research. Thank you for your input lolabelle!! I've honestly not read many accounts at all of it causing twins, though have read some evidence of it being really helpful when used in conjunction with Clomid! I would do that but I would probably have sextuplets ����

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Do not under any circumstances take Femara and Clomid, ladies. I'll teleport to your house and give you a stern talking to. :nono:

We just got a set of Femara twins so I know it's possible.

It does seem to sway pink tho and may be even more effective than Clomid.

[Cnerwin]

Oh no, I meant the soy used with the Clomid not the femara lol!!

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[Lolabelle]

I sure wish I could get Clomid or Femara! My dr would never prescribe it for me! Anything over the counter that sways pink AND twin possibility?


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[atomic sagebrush]

Oh no, I meant the soy used with the Clomid not the femara lol!!

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Don't do that either. may actually backfire and make the Clomid less effective!

[atomic sagebrush]

I sure wish I could get Clomid or Femara! My dr would never prescribe it for me! Anything over the counter that sways pink AND twin possibility?


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Yeah, that's what this thread is about! Supposedly soy iso, vitex, and yam (not wild yam but the cassava type)

Unfortunately I've seen tons try it and very few twins

[Lolabelle]

Oh I thought that was just the Soy Iso that possibly swayed for twins...didn't realize there's a possibility with vitex too!! I will be super happy with a baby girl, but girl twins would be amazing :)


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