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artemisa
April 20th, 2017, 12:27 PM
hello ladies!
I would like to know if any of you are trying to conceive twins, it is crazy, i know but do you?
i'v read about hierbs that can help like iso, maca, vitex, etc... but i dont know how i coud take it.
so, are some of you ttct?
thank a lor for read me

Lolabelle
April 21st, 2017, 11:13 AM
Hi Artemisa!!! Yes that's me & I don't think it's crazy (or maybe we're both crazy lol). Well, at this point, just a DD would be great, but twin DD would be a dream! Are you swaying too? For DS1 & DS2, I took soy isoflavones CD 3-7. I also ate a lot of cassava root potato chips. In looking back, I believe these may have swayed blue, but didn't give me my twins.
Now since I'm swaying pink, I've been trying vitex & folic acid, taking vitex AF-O. It is has been taking me longer ttc this time and may be due to the vitex. Atomic has advised me to stop taking vitex, so only have taken it CD 1-10 this time. If you can get your hands on clomid or femara-you'd have a much better chance at twins, aside from IVF of course. I have regular cycles, so I haven't even attempted to get these, but may make an appt if I don't conceive soon!
GL with your ttc twins journey! I'm following to see if anyone has any other suggestions :)


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artemisa
April 21st, 2017, 02:55 PM
Hello lolabelle!! Thank you for your reply!! We want ttc in september! For the moment I'm taking folic acid maca, vit. Prenatal., royal jelly and tea green. And I will take soy isoflavones in the month that ttc.. (I don't know about vitex yet ).
I'm regular and I don't have issues with fertility so I don't think that my doctor gives me clomid.
How many mg did you take of iso before?
So, you are taking vitex and folic acid and something else?

AshFind
April 21st, 2017, 04:15 PM
I am one of those crazies that would love twins!! I am just taking 2400mg of folic and that's all for now it seems like a heap but I've read you just pee out what you don't need and that t can make you release multiple eggs.
GL on your journey


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kittendreams
April 21st, 2017, 05:41 PM
I would secretly love twin girls! My husband would freak out though!
I am breastfeeding, over 35, ttc my 3rd from September, on mini pill for the time being and taking folic so hoping this tips the scales for me. I may take Vitex. Also my sis had twins as did 3 of my aunties so I'm hoping there is something genetic there!
Good luck xx

Lolabelle
April 21st, 2017, 10:11 PM
Artemisa-for this cycle I was only taking vitex & folic acid, but recently stopped the vitex...think it may be keeping from getting a BFP! Are you swaying for blue or pink? Prenatals & soy ISO may sway blue, so I'm staying away from those!
Kittendreams-sounds like you have a naturally good chance at twins with them running in the family :) You have age on your side there too-I'm over 35 as well.

kittendreams
April 22nd, 2017, 02:10 AM
Artemisa-for this cycle I was only taking vitex & folic acid, but recently stopped the vitex...think it may be keeping from getting a BFP! Are you swaying for blue or pink? Prenatals & soy ISO may sway blue, so I'm staying away from those!
Kittendreams-sounds like you have a naturally good chance at twins with them running in the family :) You have age on your side there too-I'm over 35 as well.

Yes my sister and aunts were all in their late 30's so I definitely think age helps. I'm nearly 37 so hoping that sways girl for us and two girls would be amazing!

Lolabelle
April 22nd, 2017, 08:25 AM
Fx you get your twins kittendreams!! Do you think you will try vitex? I have age in my favor at 38. There are some twins on my mom's side boys-her cousin's I believe. Other than that ...taking vitex & folic acid are all I have going for me! Twin girls would be a dream, a boy and a girl would be fun, but 2 boys OMG...I might go bonkers lol. LOVE my boys more than anything, but they are a handful-rambunctious & wild [emoji12]I need a calm little princess who plays quietly with her dollhouse & babydolls...and so I can braid her hair & shop for bows & dresses haha [emoji166]


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carebear1st
April 22nd, 2017, 08:55 AM
Yes I was going to start, have clomid,Gonal F,HCG triggers,progesterone,high dose folate,digital ovulation kit and my protocol and was going to sway twin girls. I didn't get a chance to do anything as I fell pregnant in march(ovulated later than norm and wasn't careful) went for a scan at 5+6 due to pain and i'm having TWINS :omg::omg::running::bigsmile::bigsmile:. I think they are twin boys because ive only felt nauseous but not been sick but that is fine, I'm happy and grateful. Good luck ladies

artemisa
April 22nd, 2017, 09:33 AM
Hi girl!! It's great!
In my family there isn't any twins :nono: I am 34 years.
So, that isn't to my luck.
I prefer girls, but boys would fine.

Prenatal is for boys too? I didn't know. So, aren't you take vitamins ?
Also I am eat a lot of milk and yogurt.
I think that is all.

kittendreams
April 22nd, 2017, 10:00 AM
Lola I may try Vitex if I don't get pregnant straight away. Just really hoping to have a girl and two would be a bonus! I won't take anything specifically to sway twins but if I got them I would be pretty happy. There is something so special about twins!
I really hope you get your girls too!

Congratulations carebear that is crazy that you were all prepared to sway twins and fell naturally anyway! I don't put too much stock into symptoms for gender so I think you have a great chance at two girls xx

Lolabelle
April 22nd, 2017, 11:10 AM
That's awesome carebear!! That is encouraging to hear!! You'll have to come back & post when you know gender :)
Kittendreams-fx you get your girl(s) too!! Sounds like we're on the same boat ;)


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atomic sagebrush
April 22nd, 2017, 01:19 PM
Hello lolabelle!! Thank you for your reply!! We want ttc in september! For the moment I'm taking folic acid maca, vit. Prenatal., royal jelly and tea green. And I will take soy isoflavones in the month that ttc.. (I don't know about vitex yet ).
I'm regular and I don't have issues with fertility so I don't think that my doctor gives me clomid.
How many mg did you take of iso before?
So, you are taking vitex and folic acid and something else?

Please don't take the royal jelly. It is not safe and has actually KILLED people who have allergic reactions to the supplements or after they stop taking the supplements, a bee sting or encountering RJ in a different form somewhere else (like in a drink or health food).

It also doesn't work and has the tendency to make people's cycles go really weird. Take a prenatal + DHA supp and you get all the good stuff in RJBP without the risks.

atomic sagebrush
April 22nd, 2017, 01:20 PM
I am one of those crazies that would love twins!! I am just taking 2400mg of folic and that's all for now it seems like a heap but I've read you just pee out what you don't need and that t can make you release multiple eggs.
GL on your journey


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It actually doesn't make you hyperovulate, but probably helps both twins to survive if you do conceive them. This was shown in a really big and well done study done by Chinese researchers.

Please continue taking the higher dose all thru first trimester of pregnancy and then gradually wean off by spacing doses furhter and further til down to amount in prenatal.

atomic sagebrush
April 22nd, 2017, 01:23 PM
Yes I was going to start, have clomid,Gonal F,HCG triggers,progesterone,high dose folate,digital ovulation kit and my protocol and was going to sway twin girls. I didn't get a chance to do anything as I fell pregnant in march(ovulated later than norm and wasn't careful) went for a scan at 5+6 due to pain and i'm having TWINS :omg::omg::running::bigsmile::bigsmile:. I think they are twin boys because ive only felt nauseous but not been sick but that is fine, I'm happy and grateful. Good luck ladies

Sickness was investigated in several studies and WAS NOT indicative of gender conceived. Only in hyperemesis was there a miniscule amount of difference 3% more in girl babies than in boy. That is barely any difference!! Normal morning sickness levels have nothing to do with gender of your baby.

I got my daughter with very little MS and 3 of my boys I had horrible MS.

atomic sagebrush
April 22nd, 2017, 01:24 PM
Hi girl!! It's great!
In my family there isn't any twins :nono: I am 34 years.
So, that isn't to my luck.
I prefer girls, but boys would fine.

Prenatal is for boys too? I didn't know. So, aren't you take vitamins ?
Also I am eat a lot of milk and yogurt.
I think that is all.

If you are wanting twin girls that is even more reason to avoid maca, green tea, and RJ as they all may sway blue

artemisa
April 22nd, 2017, 03:24 PM
omg! Definitely I'm going to stop with all of them, and I will continue only with folic acid! (It would my last pregnancy and I would love to get twins and I didn't know about rj) thank you atomic

atomic sagebrush
April 23rd, 2017, 01:44 PM
Nobody does, that's the scary thing! People don't know that it's actually a risky thing to take but once you start delving into the studies there are several case studies involving RJBP related deaths.

nmberg
April 27th, 2017, 04:40 PM
I thought I was the only crazy one who wanted twins. This will be my last pregnancy, and I want a girl so I am hoping for two!! I have two boys already :D. I won't be ttc until 2018 as my baby is still a baby (8 months) but never to early to plan!! I can't wait to read and see what has worked and hasn't for you ladies. Oh and I am 31 and will be 32 by the time we start trying new year!

Lolabelle
April 29th, 2017, 07:24 PM
Hi Katy! I took soy isoflavones and ate a lot of cassava root potatoes/potato chips when ttc both boys. I didn't get my twins, but did have 2 boys 19 month apart. It may help you get a boy, but not sure about twins. Clomid sways more pink, but probably a better chance at twins. I do believe that I've heard that there are Clomid boys out there! You have age in your favor and also more common after you've already had several children. GL with your ttc twins journey :)


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atomic sagebrush
April 30th, 2017, 01:29 PM
Hello everyone,
I'm new to this and the first time I've joined an online chat group ever! I'm a 40yr old woman with 3 children daughters 9, 7 and son 4. I am ttc twin boys as this will be my last pregnancy. I have never had any problems conceiving. I am on folic acid, fish oil supplements and iron. Please can anyone help me out I've done tones of research in to Clomid, soy isofllavones, cassava etc. I don't know which road to go down and which is best for me. Had anyone tried soy to conceive twin boys? Thanks in Advance and I hope and pray you all get blessed with your dreams.xxx

Hi and welcome, Katy! I think twin boys are the cutest (I would have loved twin boys too!)

Clomid is best. The thing is, we get good results for pink with Clomid but that is with a lot of OTHER pink sway tactics. Just Clomid alone is barely pink friendly, in studies it showed only about 3% more girls conceived and I believe if you did a blue sway otherwise, you'd up your odds of both twins and boys.

I am not a huge fan of soy as I don't think it works. If there's any way to get Clomid (and you can buy it over the counter in Spain if you ever go there on holiday) I would do Clomid plus eat an HE Diet and some other easy tricks we have to up odds of conceiving boys.

Why are you not on multivitamins?? I would have you on a good multivitamin like Women's One A Day (the orange kind) and then drop the extra iron (unless you need it for anemia). We've had great results with multivitamins for boys. I got my last two boys taking that Women's One a Day, and one was actually twins but unfortunately only one made it.

I'd also have you on 2000 mcg of folic acid or folate as that may help both twins to survive.

How much fish oil?

AshFind
April 30th, 2017, 05:03 PM
Oh wow over the counter at Spain?? I have a friend who was a surrogate for a couple in Spain and they'll be visiting in a couple weeks hehe


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Katy2017
May 2nd, 2017, 05:58 PM
I'll be posting more info soon

Katy2017
May 2nd, 2017, 06:05 PM
Thank you for the reply I will be ordering soon

atomic sagebrush
May 5th, 2017, 03:13 PM
Hello,
Thanks everyone for replying. I hope you all get this message as I'm still not sure how to respond. I little bit about me and my family.
So my mums mum had 2 sets of fraternal twins and there's no other twins anywhere in dads or my husbands family. I'm 5ft 1, 40 yrs old and slowly increasing my weight which is currently 9stones 9lbs. I have started taking pregnacare and extra folic acid 2000mg, fish oils caps high strength 1 a day and I'm taking cassavoum (cassava tabs) 800mg a day. I'm also adding vitamin b complex and vitamin d. My pregnancies are always 42wkks + I don't know these babies just don't want to come out I have to be induced, waters broken and end up with forceps too. I have no problem getting pregnant and my periods are like clockwork. I don't smoke or drink and neither does hubby. I would love to have twin boys fraternal or identical but if after trying only get 1 Boy i will be happy as I've mentally prepared myself for that outcome too. I would love some advice. I hope and pray all you lovely sisters get what you want. God bless.xx
Please add if you have any advice.
Thanks, have a nice day

Yes, I got it!

Good news is that if it's on your mom's side it may have some effect!

Please don't increase your weight for this. It may mess with your egg quality to do that. STay steady where you are.

I am not a fan of Pregnacare. The megadoses in it may mess with your cycle, delaying or even stopping O and making your LP shorter. I'd have you switch to something like Centrum or Women's One a Day that only has 100% of most nutrients. (don't switch suddenly, take them every other day, then every 2,3, etc till taking the Pregnacare once a week

Do NOT NOT NOT add a B complex onto that!! You'd be taking a massive dose of B vitamins which not only can mess up your cycle but can actually cause you neurological damage! More is not better!

If you are taking Women's One a Day (the orange one) that already has 1000 IU Vit. D. If you continue wiht Pregnacare that has 600 IU. YOu only need 1000 IU max (unless under a doctor's advice) so I would not add in Vit. D more than 1000 IU.

Cassava and soy iso at your discretion. To use the soy, you would take TWO of those (so this would be total of 110 mg) from CD 3-7 and then stop taking them. Do not continue on with them after that point, they'll actually stop your ovulating.

I really, really, really think if you want to take the soy, it's even more imperative to lose those high doses of B vitamins They can actually interfere with the way the soy works.

No more than 1c green tea a day and more like 2-3 times a week is better (in the month you are going to use the soy iso) Green tea may interfere with the way soy iso works.

Katy2017
May 6th, 2017, 08:10 PM
Hello and thank you for replying!
I will take on board all the advice and implement this, thank you.
Please advise which company/brand is the womans 1 a day from? I will switch like you mentioned from pregnacare to them. And which centrum as there are afew of them eg. 40+ etc.
I have been reaserching ttc twin boys for weeks and weeks I know soy is good for blue sway but Clomid is better for twins- although could be useful in blue sway with the he diet.. Please advise- which route would be better for me. Some women have taken Clomid days 3-7 and soy 5-9 I must say I never heard taking them like that so that's I new one for me!

I have been searching high and low for Clomid and where to purchase this from as I'm from the uk I can't buy it over the counter. I think Clomid with the blue sway could hopefully work. Do you know any reputable companies in US or Canada that I can order? Some women take the Clomid then have the hcg trigger shot. Would I need that as I ovulate on my own? Im also researching natural ways to increase my uterus lining as Clomid thins it, although I've never had issues with this- maybe just as a precaution? And would I need progesterone cream?
Last thing should I stick with 2000mg folic acid a day?

I cannot stress how grateful I am for you advice, look forward to hearing from you.xxx
Love and hugs to all you sistas. Baby dust to all!

atomic sagebrush
May 7th, 2017, 02:07 PM
I think it's just called One a Day - if you google "women's one a day" it will bring up tons of hits for you.

I want you to find whatever vitamin that has only about 100% of all the nutrients and then possibly up to 1000IU Vit. D.

I actually don't think soy is good for a blue sway necessarily. There is evidence pointing both directions and honesty the evidence that it sways pink is more convincing to me. But people have gotten boys taking it so it's no magic bullet regardless.

Taking both Clomid and soy is NUTS and I really think that's a dreadful idea. I don't know why anyone would be taking soy any differently, you use twice as many mg as Clomid but take them on the same days. That's how everyone I've ever heard of used them.

I don't recommend ordering medication online. You can get it over the counter in Spain, that's all I know. I do not recommend HCG shot, you don't need that. I know of only one person who got a thin lining on Clomid right away. Most people take 4-6 months to get a thin lining on Clomid. I would not worry about this especially since you're eating a boy-friendly diet and supplements which will help you grow a nice lining. Please do not take a bunch of stuff to "make a good lining" as that stuff doesn't work and also messes with your ability to get and stay pregnant sometimes. No, you do not need progesterone cream and should stay well away from it. If you have some reason to believe your prog. is low, Clomid actually can help with that.

Yes, please stick with the higher dose of FA all thru first tri of pregnancy and then gradually wean back to the amount in prenatal. DO NOT just stop taking the FA cold turkey, you MUST wean off of it, and do not take it into the 3rd trimester, you need to be off the extra by then. As soon as first trimester is over you need to wean off it.