HOW important is the exercise?

[onelastsway]

I've been on this journey since November and not conceived then I just had a chemical. I want to give it my best shot as this will definitely be my last baby. I understand exercise is getting really good results but HOW important is it - do you think it is make or break? It's the main thing I struggle with. I can just about cope with the diet (with some cheats), the not snacking, coffee, alcohol, e4d but the thought of keeping up with the exercise fills me with dread. Also I have low BMI so can't afford to lose anymore weight. If it's super important, I'll do it, but if I'm doing everything else - is that enough?

[XXforhubby]

This is one of those things that no one can really say for sure. I would say if you will have regrets not doing it, then add it in. You may need to eat more calories if it causes you to lose too much weight. If it will stress you out too much, then leave it out. No one can tell you for sure if this is best or not- you have to decide if exercise can fit into your daily life. I can tell you that there have been successful girl sways without exercise. I started out exercising for 8.5mo and had to stop the month I got my BFP due to too much family stress. I personally feel that is the best approach- do what you can and forget about what you can't.

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[Pink rose]

Hi this is my last chance for a girl to I'm doing the exercise trying to fit in five days a week. I'm trying it because it gets good results but I'm finding the diet harder than the exercise, you can even do a hours walking if that suits you better. I just can't wait for all this diet and exercise to be over I'm also very thin & can't afford to loose any more weight. Your sway sounds great & if you are sticking to it even better! I sometimes find when I try to hard to fit everything in I end up failing. Good luck & I hope we both get our happy endings!
Which diet are you following Le or pcos?

[atomic sagebrush]

Exercise is among our best sway tactics but if you can't do it, you can't do it.

I didn't do it and I got a girl.

Is there any way you could just do LESS exercise? Even if you have to drop down to 3-4 days a week?

[atomic sagebrush]

^^^ and just to reiterate what pink rose said - even just walking for an hour counts. It does not need to be like a Herculean level of effort!

[onelastsway]

Thanks everyone. I am doing LE diet. OK, I will try to do the exercise 4-5 times a week as I don't want to regret not doing it - some walking, some dance dvd. I do aqua once a week anyway. It's just fitting it around two needy boys that I struggle with!!

[mrshrc]

Thanks everyone. I am doing LE diet. OK, I will try to do the exercise 4-5 times a week as I don't want to regret not doing it - some walking, some dance dvd. I do aqua once a week anyway. It's just fitting it around two needy boys that I struggle with!!

Does your local Y or if in the US 24 hour fitness have childcare? My 24 hour fitness has unlimited childcare package for $30/mo and I think there's a discount for additional children. For my daughter and my membership I pay $70/mo which is less than half what I paid at a fancy gym. I go and do 60m of fast walking 4x a week while watching TV shows on my phone. It's honestly like a vacation [emoji23]


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[blessedmama2]

Atomic- are you now thinking its better to do SOME exercise than no exercise? I would exercise 7 days a week if it worked for me, but I have a recurring injury so I'm so worried I'm going to have to quit cold turkey and it actually backfire?


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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes. The results on exercise have been unignorable and so I now believe that (provided you are losing or have lost at least some weight on a lower protein diet) even if you can only get to 3-4 days a week you should do the exercise. More is better, but it's worth it even if you can't get the full 60 6-7 because the results have proven it works.

[mrshrc]

Yes. The results on exercise have been unignorable and so I now believe that (provided you are losing or have lost at least some weight on a lower protein diet) even if you can only get to 3-4 days a week you should do the exercise. More is better, but it's worth it even if you can't get the full 60 6-7 because the results have proven it works.

This is a bit of a threadjack, but do you want us eating back exercise calories. My calorie goal is 1700 (a 600 calorie deficit from my TDEE) - however I did 60m on the treadmill today and burned 300 calories. If I don't eat them, I basically have an intake of 1400 (1000 calories below TDEE)...is that enough?


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[atomic sagebrush]

No. I want you to completely NOT pay attention to those little numbers on the screen at all and let only weight loss be your guide. If you're losing too much or too fast, eat more. Do not be doing a math equation every day to figure out how many cals to eat, that's the type of constant detail oriented thinking that will really undermine a pink sway via the psychological angle of it. YOu want to just relax into the lifestyle and not think about it that much.

[mrshrc]

No. I want you to completely NOT pay attention to those little numbers on the screen at all and let only weight loss be your guide. If you're losing too much or too fast, eat more. Do not be doing a math equation every day to figure out how many cals to eat, that's the type of constant detail oriented thinking that will really undermine a pink sway via the psychological angle of it. YOu want to just relax into the lifestyle and not think about it that much.

Okay thanks - is 1lb a week enough?


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[cleopatra_2006]

^^^ and just to reiterate what pink rose said - even just walking for an hour counts. It does not need to be like a Herculean level of effort!

Hi is there a page or thread that has the best sway tactics please? X


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[pinkfairydust]

So is 60 minutes walking a day still pink freely? Even if I don't break into a sweat?

Do we have stats on the length of time you have to excercise (as in 2 weeks? Vs 6 weeks? Vs 8 weeks?)

[pinkfairydust]

Could I also ask - does anyone know the exact stats- how many swayers have incorporated exercise - and of those swayers how many got girls?

I'm feeling pretty crappy on the LE diet (eve tho I'm going over the limits most days) and really don't want to incorporate exercise if I can justify it?

[Butterflies buttercups]

I did stationary bike or walking 5 days a week Monday - Friday only and got a girl xx


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[mrshrc]

Could I also ask - does anyone know the exact stats- how many swayers have incorporated exercise - and of those swayers how many got girls?

I'm feeling pretty crappy on the LE diet (eve tho I'm going over the limits most days) and really don't want to incorporate exercise if I can justify it?

I have to say when I got my daughter without a sway, I was exercising 60m 4-5 days a week and losing weight for my wedding. I was doing Barre which isn't very high impact and walking the dog a few days a week in addition to like a 1500 calorie diet.

So anecdotally I did a sway and got a girl and looking back I'm so sure exercise was part of it.


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[pinkfairydust]

Thank you so much both

Butterflies- massive congrats on your girl- when you say you walked- were you breaking a sweat or was it just normal walking? So you weren't out of breathe etc?

Mrshc- when you say low impact do you mean you didn't break a sweat/ weren't out of breath? Funnily enough I was also accidentally swaying pink in the run up to wedding- was the lightest weight I'd ever been and was actually underweighT- got a boy! Not sure how that happened. I'm veggie too. Although I did do quite a few attempts in the fertile window.

[mrshrc]

Thank you so much both

Butterflies- massive congrats on your girl- when you say you walked- were you breaking a sweat or was it just normal walking? So you weren't out of breathe etc?

Mrshc- when you say low impact do you mean you didn't break a sweat/ weren't out of breath? Funnily enough I was also accidentally swaying pink in the run up to wedding- was the lightest weight I'd ever been and was actually underweighT- got a boy! Not sure how that happened. I'm veggie too. Although I did do quite a few attempts in the fertile window.

I know that we only did 1-2 attempts and the one I think that did it I was on top and jumped/dumped because I don't like being 'messy'. I was also drinking diet drinks and a light caffeine frappe almost daily.

It made me sweat and shake but isn't high impact like running.


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[atomic sagebrush]

Hi is there a page or thread that has the best sway tactics please? X


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IN my signature you'll find a link to our Complete Index. It has probably more info than you ever wanted.

The things that have really consistently worked are LE Diet 12 weeks or more plus fiber, coffee, and alcohol, cardio exercise for DW, jogging and biking for DH, smoking for DH, one attempt in the fertile window, and Clomid or Femara if you can get one of them. The rest of the stuff has been just getting in the way of conception and not helping.

[atomic sagebrush]

Thank you so much both

Butterflies- massive congrats on your girl- when you say you walked- were you breaking a sweat or was it just normal walking? So you weren't out of breathe etc?

Mrshc- when you say low impact do you mean you didn't break a sweat/ weren't out of breath? Funnily enough I was also accidentally swaying pink in the run up to wedding- was the lightest weight I'd ever been and was actually underweighT- got a boy! Not sure how that happened. I'm veggie too. Although I did do quite a few attempts in the fertile window.

None of these things are guarantees. Even under ideal circumstances there seems to be an upper ceiling of success for sways, which makes sense because if being thin and eating fewer nutrients swayed blue then the whole human race would have died out a long time ago, since before very recently the majority of people were thin and ate fewer nutrients than most of us do nowadays.

[ksmom]

I agree with Atomic, it's never a guarantee. I exercised 60+ minutes a day, 4-6 days per week along with the LE diet for close to a year and still had a boy. I think people need to stop looking at one thing in isolation doing the swaying and look at the overall picture if that makes sense. If you can fit in exercise, great but if not, that's fine too.

[mrshrc]

None of these things are guarantees. Even under ideal circumstances there seems to be an upper ceiling of success for sways, which makes sense because if being thin and eating fewer nutrients swayed blue then the whole human race would have died out a long time ago, since before very recently the majority of people were thin and ate fewer nutrients than most of us do nowadays.

You're right. I realize now I was suggesting it was a guarantee, which I didn't mean to. [emoji51]


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[ksmom]

I understand! It's so easy to feel like "okay if I do diet, exercise, and one attempt then I'm going to get a girl" because there is a pretty good success rate here on GD using just those tactics...but it's never guaranteed. You can totally get a girl without exercise. You could even do everything "right" for swaying pink and still get a boy, just like you could do a "typical" blue sway and get a girl. It's more about nudging the odds more in your favor.

[Butterflies buttercups]

Agree to all of the above it doesn't work for everyone but sometimes it does work - when walking I would have trainers on and walk fast and most of the time pushing my heavy toddler in a pram consistently for atleast 60 mins - I wouldn't sweat but defiantly get hot and a little breathless uphill etc
I would always sweat on the bike for 60 mins too . My sway is on here somewhere - good luck xx


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[cleopatra_2006]

IN my signature you'll find a link to our Complete Index. It has probably more info than you ever wanted.

The things that have really consistently worked are LE Diet 12 weeks or more plus fiber, coffee, and alcohol, cardio exercise for DW, jogging and biking for DH, smoking for DH, one attempt in the fertile window, and Clomid or Femara if you can get one of them. The rest of the stuff has been just getting in the way of conception and not helping.

Brilliant thanks... when you say one attempt is that frequent release or abstaining? Gonna have a good read now :)


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[atomic sagebrush]

Most people will start off doing one or the other - abstain for those under 35, FR for those over 35, if hubby has sperm health issues or is much over 40 you may want to have him do regular release every 2-4 days instead (but keep the one attempt)

[atomic sagebrush]

You're right. I realize now I was suggesting it was a guarantee, which I didn't mean to. [emoji51]


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No worries, I feel like other sway sites are too hesitant to stress to people that you can have a great sway but still get an opposite. They prefer to make unbelievable claims and then blame people when their sways don't work out, instead of acknowledging the reality - simply that if swaying was a surefire thing then the whole human race would not exist in its present form. I don't want you guys going into swaying anything less than fully informed that even with a "perfect" sway opposites still occur about 1/3 of the time.

[Mommy3boyz]

My next attempt is in about 2 weeks and I am just starting exercising.. atomic how long do you recommend exercising prior to attempt? Is it ok if I'm just now starting?


*Mommy to Mason 8/28/08 Tyler 5/25/12 and Brayden 4/4/15* Praying for healthy PINK to join my crew!

[atomic sagebrush]

Originally we theorized (with absolutely no evidence, this was just me theorizing here) that short times of exercise may be risky due to potential rise in testosterone at the start. BUT this was before exercise got such fantastic results and also some new evidence came to light that seems to weaken the case for testosterone and swaying, substantially. So because of that, I now think it is worth the "risk" (which is probably not even a risk, just me theorizing about the potential for a risk LOL) to do exercise even if you are only starting a couple weeks before.

Now diet, on the other hand, we do see a clear demarkation with 12 weeks or more vs. only 2-4 weeks so in that case I urge people to diet at least 6-8 weeks if not longer. But exercise we just don't have the numbers to say either way and since the results have been fab, I suggest starting it. :)

[Mommy3boyz]

Ok awesome I will go ahead and start! I'm doing a recumbent bike (no resistance) I've been on the diet since beginning of march so I should be good there hopefully! The main thing in the diet that's hard for me is the no red meat, it's usually a meal staple in my family!


*Mommy to Mason 8/28/08 Tyler 5/25/12 and Brayden 4/4/15* Praying for healthy PINK to join my crew!

[atomic sagebrush]

What I usually did was just make normal food, and then I'd eat the side dish and veg or salad and just skip the meat. It makes it WAY easier than trying to make foods that your family doesn't like that well.

[ObsidianBlossom]

Apologies - please can someone send me a
Link to the exercise statistics when swaying pink x x


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[3littleladies01]

Sorry to hijack, but it seems (from reading all this) that exercise is really important on a pink sway, is it just as important on a blue one? Presume that’s just weights? I walk 2 - 3 times a week for about 1 hour - should I drop that or just add weights into the mix on the other days? What were u guys doing when u got your boys? [emoji8] thanks x


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[ObsidianBlossom]

When I got my boy (I wasn’t swaying) I was - eating lots of takeaway and crap, snacking, not exercising just the odd walk around the city. I was also eating lots of eggs/white bread/ big meals during the week. Drank tea and coffee always had a hearty breakfast, didn’t drink much alcohol. Can’t remember much else - BD every couple of days around Ovulation before during and after. Often had big O, me on top and layed still afterwards.... hmmm can’t remember much else but sending lots of blue dust your way x


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[atomic sagebrush]

Apologies - please can someone send me a
Link to the exercise statistics when swaying pink x x


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Our stats are here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/trying-to-conceive-a-girl/51473-complete-pink-swaying-statistics-spreadsheet-info-links-enter-your-sway.html and an essay on why not to take our stats too seriously (mandatory reading BEFORE you get too woun!) is here https://genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/43555-thoughts-stats.html

as it is right now our exercise stats are just about 72%, 112 out of 156 people. But this doesn't show that exercise has consistently been this high or better (almost always better!) for the past 7 years and what's more, it was even this high during the lowest success rate of the site!! So exercise HAS GOT TO BE working for pink since it's been great the entire time, even during times where our overall success rate was 15% lower. Exercise has to be a big sway tactic and I recommend it for every pink swayer who can manage it without wasting away to nothing.

[atomic sagebrush]

Sorry to hijack, but it seems (from reading all this) that exercise is really important on a pink sway, is it just as important on a blue one? Presume that’s just weights? I walk 2 - 3 times a week for about 1 hour - should I drop that or just add weights into the mix on the other days? What were u guys doing when u got your boys? [emoji8] thanks x


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I really really do think this is a biggie for blue too but we don't ahve the quality of data to back that up (I really need to work on my blue sway stats)

you can do cardio and weights for blue. Walking 2-3 times a week is actually ideal, please carry on. Then in addition to that do weights 4 times a week, if you can avoid doing both in the same day, that's best, if not, be sure you break it into two pieces and don't do more than 45 min to 1 hour at a time.

I got 2 of my boys doing lots of walking (one with weights, one without) and then my 3rd boy I had a very physically taxing job that I did 4-5 days a week for 4-6 hours at a time. But with all of them I was either gaining weight or holding steady and eating super blue friendly diet, particualrly with the 3rd boy.

[3littleladies01]

I really really do think this is a biggie for blue too but we don't ahve the quality of data to back that up (I really need to work on my blue sway stats)

you can do cardio and weights for blue. Walking 2-3 times a week is actually ideal, please carry on. Then in addition to that do weights 4 times a week, if you can avoid doing both in the same day, that's best, if not, be sure you break it into two pieces and don't do more than 45 min to 1 hour at a time.

I got 2 of my boys doing lots of walking (one with weights, one without) and then my 3rd boy I had a very physically taxing job that I did 4-5 days a week for 4-6 hours at a time. But with all of them I was either gaining weight or holding steady and eating super blue friendly diet, particualrly with the 3rd boy.

Thanks atomic! That’s great. I’ll do exactly that xx


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[dreamofdaughter]

If DW is doing exclusive cardio exercise (50-60 min per session, at least 4 days a week) and DH is doing cycle/running but also starts to add in some light weights, will that compromise the sway? My DH had not done weights in 7 months, pretty much exclusive running/cycling and wants to pick up light weights again. He was a heavy lifter before. I think because we conceived he hit the gym right away and then we had the CP and now he doesn't want to give up weights again but is willing to do light weights. He is taking OLE daily (he has been for months now).

I *completely* believe in the cardio for DW = high chance of girl.

[atomic sagebrush]

We have no evidence that husbands doing weights will even harm a sway. The weight thing is based on data in women, not men. Have no data indicating that weights sway blue for men and in fact a lot of anecdotal evidence that very buff men have lots of girls (some of them may be taking supplements that sway pink - my point is not "this means weight deffo sways pink for men" but simply that "men who are buff and lift weights CAN make girls we've seen it!")

[3littleladies01]

Can I just ask a bit of advice re:exercise?

I currently do
Mon & sun - weights 30 mins
Tuesday & Thursday - walk 1 hr 20 but broken down into 20 mins intervals due to school run - 20 mins there, 20 back and then repeat for pick up.
Weds - 40 min walk (20 there and 20 back on school run) - I could add weights here in evening???
Fri and sat - rest
Is this enough for blue or do I need to increase any area? We have about 1 month till first sway so would prefer honest opinion now whilst I still have some time??

Thanks all xx



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[3littleladies01]

Can I just ask a bit of advice re:exercise?

I currently do
Mon & sun - weights 30 mins
Tuesday & Thursday - walk 1 hr 20 but broken down into 20 mins intervals due to school run - 20 mins there, 20 back and then repeat for pick up.
Weds - 40 min walk (20 there and 20 back on school run) - I could add weights here in evening???
Fri and sat - rest
Is this enough for blue or do I need to increase any area? We have about 1 month till first sway so would prefer honest opinion now whilst I still have some time??

Thanks all xx



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Swaying blue FYI x


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[atomic sagebrush]

Can I just ask a bit of advice re:exercise?

I currently do
Mon & sun - weights 30 mins
Tuesday & Thursday - walk 1 hr 20 but broken down into 20 mins intervals due to school run - 20 mins there, 20 back and then repeat for pick up.
Weds - 40 min walk (20 there and 20 back on school run) - I could add weights here in evening???
Fri and sat - rest
Is this enough for blue or do I need to increase any area? We have about 1 month till first sway so would prefer honest opinion now whilst I still have some time??

Thanks all xx



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I would love to see one more day of weights but that's very close to perfecto in my book. :)

[3littleladies01]

I would love to see one more day of weights but that's very close to perfecto in my book. :)

Should I add the weights to the weds where I walk 40 mins earlier in the day or try to do the extra weights on a different day?

Thanks atomic - exercise is the one thing I missed in my sway last time where I got my opposite so I’m determined to do it right this time! 🤞 x


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[Shenanigans]

I also skipped exercise in my previous sways. And got boys. One of my boys I was doing kickboxing and boot camp type classes but eating a very boy friendly diet still got me a boy. I think for boys, diet is very important, though. I have always been very much a snacker, love cereal, a carnivore, etc and have 5 boys.

[atomic sagebrush]

Should I add the weights to the weds where I walk 40 mins earlier in the day or try to do the extra weights on a different day?

Thanks atomic - exercise is the one thing I missed in my sway last time where I got my opposite so I’m determined to do it right this time! �� x


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totally at your discretion, whihever works best for you as long as the weights are not right at the same time as the walking. (so have a break, be sure to eat something)

[atomic sagebrush]

I also skipped exercise in my previous sways. And got boys. One of my boys I was doing kickboxing and boot camp type classes but eating a very boy friendly diet still got me a boy. I think for boys, diet is very important, though. I have always been very much a snacker, love cereal, a carnivore, etc and have 5 boys.

:agree: yep the diet and exercise 100% work together. that's why we can't always just look at a person and say "oh yes they were a gym rat, no wonder they have...." the diet and exercise are a team.

[3littleladies01]

I also skipped exercise in my previous sways. And got boys. One of my boys I was doing kickboxing and boot camp type classes but eating a very boy friendly diet still got me a boy. I think for boys, diet is very important, though. I have always been very much a snacker, love cereal, a carnivore, etc and have 5 boys.

Thanks shenanigans - I do lean towards a boy friendly diet (at least the last couple of years, before that I was definitely more girl diet) but I still got my third girl, born 10 months ago.

As I say first two I can understand - no.1 was inadvertently 1 attempt and girly diet, no.2 was shettles timing 1 attempt and girly diet. No.3 was failed sway with no exercise but very much boy diet - since then I’ve not really changed the diet too much (still grazing all day, cereal every morning and lots of red meat) so will be interested to see what diet AND exercise get me this time around!

Are you swaying girl? X


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[Cmf84]

Hi, I am 34 and mum to 1 boy, 20 months old. When conceiving him I did zero exercise and had a BMI of 24.9, I am the same weight now I was then. I am attempting the LE diet, fibre, folate and planning to try the one attempt starting in December. My DH though has recently started going to the gym and lost 15kg since we had DS. I know there is no way I will be able to do 60-6-7. My question is, is any exercise better than nothing? If I can’t be consistent with it, is it better not to try at all?

I have weight to lose, so will try to do that with my diet but am wondering whether exercise some weeks and some weeks none, is more harmful than no exercise at all.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Hi, I am 34 and mum to 1 boy, 20 months old. When conceiving him I did zero exercise and had a BMI of 24.9, I am the same weight now I was then. I am attempting the LE diet, fibre, folate and planning to try the one attempt starting in December. My DH though has recently started going to the gym and lost 15kg since we had DS. I know there is no way I will be able to do 60-6-7. My question is, is any exercise better than nothing? If I can’t be consistent with it, is it better not to try at all?

I have weight to lose, so will try to do that with my diet but am wondering whether exercise some weeks and some weeks none, is more harmful than no exercise at all.

Thank you



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Hey that level of weight loss for DH likely sways pink too. No worries there.

While we don't have the body of hard data I would need to answer your question definitively, what we now believe is that the exercise has been so good for so long it is worth including even at a lesser amount - provided you have lost at least a little weight on a lower cal, lower protein diet (such as LE) I definitely want you to exercise as long as you're not gaining weight or eating a boy friendly diet otherwise.

The 60 minutes appear more important than the number of days a week, so if you could get in 60 min. 4 days a week, that's great. Less than 4 days a week makes me a little nervous, and less than 45 min. makes me even nervouser, but given your BMI I think yu'll benefit from any exercise even if it is less than that.

[Cmf84]

Thank you very much for your reply. My first pregnancy with DS , we conceived in the second month trying. I had a high sugar diet, very little exercise and 2-3 coffees a day, took supplements 3 months before trying and was the same weight I am now. I was wondering what the best method to try is now for pink sway? E4d or one attempt? My cycle is very regular (28-29 days) and when I was tracking it for my last pregnancy, I was ovulating quite late in my cycle (day 18). Also I am trying to cut down my sugar but what about sugar in fruit or sugar free desserts using Stevia?

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[atomic sagebrush]

I like you guys to start off doing one attempt. E4d may be more blue friendly than one attempt and I prefer everyone reserve e4d until you've tried one attempt and haven't conceived.

Stevia is rumored to sway blue, altho I've seen little evidence of that.

We do have good results with our sugar free alternate diet and you can find that here: https://www.genderdreaming.com/forum/gender-swaying-general-discussion/9052-swaying-under-special-circumstances-part-3-pcos.html Given your history of having boys on a high sugar diet and having late O and probably short LP, I'd def. recommend being on that type of diet instead of the higher carb version of LE Diet.

[Cmf84]

Thank you. If we are trying one attempt, I am not sure what day to try on. I will be using these tests but they track high fertility and also peak (LH SURGE) Maximise your chances of conceiving naturally with Clearblue (http://au.clearblue.com/ovulation-tests/advanced-digital)
Which of those days should we try our one attempt? On a high fertility day or peak? I usually ovulate late in my cycle ~CD 18

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[atomic sagebrush]

If ou want to include timing, do it on the day of the second "high" reading (but be aware you can get more than one "high" and also go straight to "peak" with no highs so you may want to have a backup plan in case one of those occurs) If you don't care about timing and want better chance of conception with one attempt, BD on first solid.

Ovulation CD 18 is not late, it's still in normal range. What day do you get AF after that?

[Cmf84]

Thank you. When you say the first solid do you mean the first peak fertility reading? AF usually start CD 29.

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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes. The Clearblues will give you a "flashy" smiley when you are at "high" and then a solid smiley at peak

[Cmf84]

Hi Atomic, I've been getting a high fertility for 6 days now. I'm just worried something has gone wrong and the OPK isn't accurate. At what point should we just try our one attempt if I keep getting just high fertility results? I am on CD16 now with a 28 day cycle. I've got a bit of egg white CM now, not much. Last month I was 5 days late with AF due to a chemical. Thank you

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[Mariola]

Hi, sorry to just answer but I had the same this cycle. 8 flashy smileys and then on cd19 my first positive with cd20 the darkest line (on the cheapy opk). I used the advanced cb in the mornings and the others in the late afternoon. Keep testing and good luck (:

[atomic sagebrush]

In future months what I would have had you do is attempt on the day the positive was "supposed" to come and then keep testing. If your positive comes within 2 days, stick with attempt you've had. If 4 or more days, have another attempt. if 3 days, then use the rule of thumb "if you want better chance of pink, stick with attempt you've had, if you want better chance conception, have another attempt" and if you really can't decide flip a coin.

For now, since the positive is likely on its way I'd hold off on attempting and wait to see what happens.

I do want to clarify - I dont' think we can say that your period was late due to the chemical. It's just as llikely if not even more that you ovulated late and then had a chemical too. So this may be an ongoing thing. Can you tell me about your diet?

[DesiG]

I have 4 girls and only did exercise with 1, the 1 thing I did did with all of them was only 1 meal a day big dinners, and loved my sweets.

[PINKwish16]

Hi atomic,

Is an hour of any exercise what you like to see for pink swayers? I can walk, do cardio Pilates or cycle for an hour at a time but would not be able to run for an hour. Also, can it be mixed, ie 30minutes of Pilates followed by a 30 minute walk?

Is it weights with any exercise what you suggest is not idea? ie a long walk with a child in the back carrier or cycling with a child attached in a bike seat or weights during Pilates?

Lastly, I know you said 4 days a week of 60minutes exercise is great, but would more days help Sway pink or is 4 plenty for the week? Thank you :)

[atomic sagebrush]

I have 4 girls and only did exercise with 1, the 1 thing I did did with all of them was only 1 meal a day big dinners, and loved my sweets.

This is an older post but I just wanted to point out that diet and exercise can work in harmony or on their own. Anyone eating 1 meal a day would be swaying pink (even though I DO NOT WANT to ever see anyone eating 1 meal a day!) even without exercise, and someone exercising a massive amount will be swaying pink even on a blue friendly diet (and indeed, many of our unsuccessful blue swayers were people who were super into fitness and just didn't feel they could reduce exercise, or had a very strong history of doing lots and lots of cardio). The best approach to sway pink is both diet and cardio exercise.

[atomic sagebrush]

Hi atomic,

Is an hour of any exercise what you like to see for pink swayers? I can walk, do cardio Pilates or cycle for an hour at a time but would not be able to run for an hour. Also, can it be mixed, ie 30minutes of Pilates followed by a 30 minute walk?

Is it weights with any exercise what you suggest is not idea? ie a long walk with a child in the back carrier or cycling with a child attached in a bike seat or weights during Pilates?

Lastly, I know you said 4 days a week of 60minutes exercise is great, but would more days help Sway pink or is 4 plenty for the week? Thank you :)

Yes, an hour a day of cardio. You can mix and match them as long as they are CONSECUTIVE, meaning you go right from one to the other, don't stop in the middle to send "just a few texts" and check Twitter LOL, and especially don't stop in the middle and eat a snack!

I actually prefer you guys walk, not run. Unless you're already quite fit and used to running, people end up getting injured by trying to do exercise that is too hard for them. Walking has just as good results as running, so please by all means walk!

As long as you're eating a lower protein diet and have lost at least a little weight and are doing the 60 min (rather than 30) I am fine with the baby in the carrier. No problem with that at all. you can't be gaining muscle in that case!

I prefer to see 6-7 days per week with cardio. Some people can't do that (and others have stopped ovulating) so when I say "4 days a week" I mean we have still seen successful sways with 4 days of exercise. I personally prefer to see everyone at least start off with 6-7 (or ease into doing that, you don't need to actually START with 6-7 days, I mean start TRYING with 6-7 days per week) and see if you can maintain a healthy BMI and keep ovulating at that level before reducing. But please abolve all else do the doable.

[lousmith]

Hey that level of weight loss for DH likely sways pink too. No worries there.

While we don't have the body of hard data I would need to answer your question definitively, what we now believe is that the exercise has been so good for so long it is worth including even at a lesser amount - provided you have lost at least a little weight on a lower cal, lower protein diet (such as LE) I definitely want you to exercise as long as you're not gaining weight or eating a boy friendly diet otherwise.

The 60 minutes appear more important than the number of days a week, so if you could get in 60 min. 4 days a week, that's great. Less than 4 days a week makes me a little nervous, and less than 45 min. makes me even nervouser, but given your BMI I think yu'll benefit from any exercise even if it is less than that.

Hi Atomic. That’s really interesting about exercise. Would you say it has to be 60 mins of continuous exercise or can it be spread out throughout the day?


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[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, it needs to be 60 minutes of consecutive exercise. This is because after about 45 minutes of exercise your body has run out of carbs in your blood and starts burning fat as fuel and something about this process we believe sways strongly pink. So a few minutes here and there is not going to get you into that zone, then you'd start over again later and your body would have either replenished its carbs via eating or through natural processes that raise blood sugar over time. 60 minutes of exercise is important even if you can't get the 6-7 days.

[lousmith]

That’s really useful to know and makes sense after reading your explanation- thank you!


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[PINKwish16]

Hi atomic,

Just wondering what is the impact on a sway when a pink swayer loses weight when going on the LE diet but then the body adjusts to the new calorie amounts and daily walks, and kinda plateaus with weight loss? Is that fine as long as weight is maintained, and things like an hours walk is included for as many days a week as possible? I’m sure I had seen in a thread somewhere someone was struggling to lose any weight on LE, but I can’t find it, so just wanted to ask to get a better understanding for if you do lose a good amount of weight initially but it plateaus or loss slows right down but you are still keeping the cals, carbs and protein low.

Thanks xx

[atomic sagebrush]

Yes, once you drop below BMI 21 you should stop losing weight and hold steady. And if you have plateaued even above BMI 21 you can still try.

It is the limits of the diet that appear to sway. Not weight loss.